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Jason, thank you so much for coming on. Please introduce yourself the time to shine today podcast varsity squad.. But first, what’s your favorite color? And why?

Unknown Speaker  2:25  

My favorite color right now is probably blue. And that’s mostly because it’s the thing that’s illuminating around your head. So anything that lets me see you in sharp relief, I will take thank you so much for having me on. I’m pumped for this conversation. I think I’ve always said that I never get off of a call with an entrepreneur without less energy or without more energy than I got on. And I think you are proving that. I feel like I’m plugged into a Tesla charging station every time I talk to you. So thank you again for having

Unknown Speaker  2:53  

that means. That means a time man, you and I are our brothers dude. And I’ve been looking forward to this. And I know I actually fast track you to come on the show just because of our conversation from a couple of weeks ago. Both fellow Midwesterners as well. So let’s get a little bit to it. I know we are chatting, you kind of worked in the banking world, he commuted you know, let’s kind of get to the origins of where you were J to you know where you’re at now helping people level up. Yeah, it’s

Unknown Speaker  3:21  

a great question, Scott. So for starters, I grew up in a behavior disorder school from the time I was in first grade, I have what’s widely regarded as entrepreneurs disease, ADHD, right. And so at first grade, I was pulled out of school and put into a 365, or, you know, 52 week, a year, no summer break school with 40 kids K through 12. And so when I was eight years old, I was around gang members and people that had tried to commit suicide or commit crimes. And it was very tough. But the thing about it that really made me who I am, that really helped shape me who I am, is they let me learn at my own pace, and they really cared about me. So coming out of that, you know, I think I was given a very good gift of really being a student of the world and, and kind of being aware of all the different ways that people could be. And because I didn’t have much of a path, I went into the Army, probably very much like yourself, became an engineer in the army, which means that I dug holes in the desert for seven days a week, 1212 hour days. And it was great man, we learned the value of hard work. I have two core values that make me me, Scott, one of them I was born with I call that spirit of the puppy. That’s what I talked about earlier. And then the second one I earned, I earned it in the desert. I earned it through hard work, and that’s military mindset. So that’s discipline, hard work, you know, a willingness to show up for others and always do what I say I’m going to do. Came back from the military, and I went on two journeys at the same time one, I enrolled in DePaul University with the GI Bill, shout out to the GI bill for finance and two

Unknown Speaker  4:59  

Demon Deacons.

Unknown Speaker  4:59  

It’s the blue demons glue. Yeah, that’s, yeah, no, you’re good. And then, at the same time, two other veterans and I started a CrossFit gym in a fourth floor of a dusty warehouse in Chicago. So we did both of those things. And so my mindset was, I’m going to take over the world of industry through corporate finance. And so I went into this great starting job at one of the biggest banks in the world. And we have this little hobby, we were building this tribe, we care about it, it’s all we think about. But it’s just a hobby, it’s never going to make us any money. And so that’s how it went for several years. Until I realized that I was sitting in a boardroom with my boss, and my boss’s boss, and his boss and his boss and an entrepreneur, and the only guy in the room I could see eye to eye with was the entrepreneur. And so eventually, it just came to pass that I was like, Alright, we’re gonna, we’re gonna make this thing full time, we’re going to really commit to this tribe that we had already built, but really couldn’t get over the hump, because we weren’t paying the attention that it deserved. And as soon as I did that, things changed for the better, but I think it’s probably best for me to take a break here and and let you get a word in edgewise.

Unknown Speaker  6:05  

No, man, you’re good. I love it that you paid attention. We say what is the energy flows where attention goes right? And like the energy wasn’t going to what really was going to be a game changer for you. You know, especially for people like us, where we do have that monkey brain or puppy mind, and whatnot, we got to stay focused. And do let me ask you some Do you have a coach as well?

Unknown Speaker  6:27  

I do. I’ve invested probably definitely six figures, maybe maybe $250,000. In coaching and programs that would last? Yeah, yeah, I definitely always currently, I probably have been off a little more than I can true. Currently, I’m in a podcasting organization with coaching, I’m in a group for for, for leveling up as a coach and mindset. And then I’m also in sort of an entrepreneurial networking mastermind mastermind as well. And honestly, probably a little more than I can chew on that one, I haven’t been able to pay each as much attention as I’d like. But always, always, always have a coach, I think everybody should have three things, I think you should have a coach, somebody, you look up to a mentor, whether you pay him or not. And you should be you should hold yourself accountable to learning from them and take it seriously, I think you should have a group of peers that you work together and talk about through problems. At all times. I like to call this a mastermind. Obviously, it’s not my term. And I think you should have mentees, I actually had up until very recently had a group of three guys that are from my jujitsu gym, that are each young entrepreneurs. And we’re just taking them through a lot of the stuff that I’ve ended up putting in my course. But each one of those things, Scott makes me a better person, but a better leader, a better entrepreneur. And like, it’s one thing to be able to do a thing to be able to look at it square in the eye and do it it’s a whole nother thing to teach it and learn it from somebody else, you start to have to look at it from all these different angles, right? So now I can see three dimensions of these problems or this idea or, or that and I think that’s where you start to find wisdom, right?

Unknown Speaker  8:01  

Absolutely man in like it just reminds what you just said was broken down to me my my coaches, let’s call plus equals minus where the pluses every day I go and look for somebody, that’s where I’m striving to get to right and try to pick their brain. And then the equals is like you and I, you know we bounce off each other or peers Hey, man, check this out. skis, okay for you check this out. And then the minus, which is not a negative thing, but find somebody that’s you’re at where they want to get to, and pull them up and get them there. I love that you said it, man like that. So do you coach people? more one on one? Are you more group coaching right now?

Unknown Speaker  8:39  

Well, I’ve done both pretty extensively. And frankly, I owned a CrossFit gym for 12 years, I was a part of football teams and baseball teams, I was a part of a really great unit in the army. For me, it’s all about tribe. And so I get excited about I also don’t think that I’m always going to have all the answers. And so by having people go through in a cohort, what I find is in these workshops, people are helping each other solve problems, through experience, share through ideas, and sooth through sort of like a, I guess it’d be a multi dialectic of like people coming together to help each other. That’s always been the best case for me. I do work, of course, for more private things, one on one to folks. Sure.

Unknown Speaker  9:17  

So when you may be working to start with with a group or even one on one kind of in discovery is, is there any secret sauce you use to help them really find that blind spot that’s kind of blocking them?

Unknown Speaker  9:29  

Yeah. So first, maybe it would be best for me to explain who I work with. And that is just subject matter experts. These are magicians, right? These are people that in their field. I work with a guy who’s at holistic OBGYN. He’s the best in the country. I work with a guy who’s a cannabis coach, he’s maybe the only legitimate one in the country. These are folks who have broken through brick walls, working their asses off to get where they are sure, but guess what, all I have to really do is illuminate for them. Hey, the thing that you’re trying to do to get to the next level to really make an impact on In the world, which your mission deserves, it can’t be the magic between your ears, we have to take that magic and codify it into science, scale it to a team, scale it into a system, that way we can really give your message and your vision, the bandwidth that it deserves. And that I was gonna say almost always Scott, but actually have 100% close rate. So it’s that that works. Because what I’m really doing is helping people to impact the world in a much better way. And I’m much more of a partner than I am, you know, cost center. You know,

Unknown Speaker  10:33  

I love that. I love that you said that. Because I mean, I believe that everybody knows what they want, but they just don’t know how to talk themselves into it. That’s where myself and yourself as coaches, we’re not so much consultants as much as, Hey, man, we’re going to ask the questions, lean in and lean in, and listen, and then develop that gameplan. So maybe while you’re talking to some of these people, and you’re starting to get off the ground with them, maybe still even the discovery. Is there any good question that you wish they would ask you, but never do?

Unknown Speaker  11:06  

That’s that’s a great question. You know, they typically, we typically talk about my experience, which is very similar. I was a great coach in CrossFit. I was a great tribal kind of community leader. But we were stuck at Dunbar’s number, I’m not sure if you’re familiar with Dunbar’s number, but basically, it means that if you own a gym and you try to do everything, you can’t get past 150. Members, it’s because you can’t in your brain kind of keep track of that many different relationships. Right? So Scott, it took me two took me seven, seven years to get to 200. Members, it took me six months to get to 300 members, because we figured that part out and so when I was that’s definitely something that I want to talk about with them. But more importantly, you know, I always say for me, as a coach, it’s a lot less about what I tell them and a lot more about what I asked them to tell me. And so the things that I try to ask them to tell me involve them painting a real picture of what the mountain is that they’re trying to climb, I want to really understand what to build to feel it, touch it, taste it, turn it around in circles, exactly understand where they’re trying to go. Because on a primal level, I don’t think of myself as a teacher, I don’t think of myself as an architect, I don’t think of myself as a fisherman. I’m a shepherd, it’s my job to shepherd you up the mountain that you chose. And so frankly, it’s much more important that I understand your desire, and then I need to, then I can kind of provide for you the path that will make the most sense,

Unknown Speaker  12:28  

I love that you’re more interested in their story than telling them yours, because you can’t get them anywhere without knowing it. Like you just said the shepherd. It’s actually a perfect metaphor for what you do. And all coaches should, because there’s a lot of coaches out there that are really coached Sultan’s where they’re telling them what to do. And I would myself would rather see that light bulb go off because they came up with it, because they’re going to dig in a heck of a lot more into it, than if you were to tell them what to do. Because I have did that before Jay where I’m like, Oh, I told them what to do. And then they’re like, forgive this did not work. But if they come up with it, they’re gonna dig in even more, even though what I told them probably would have worked if they would have it. But no, I love that you said that. So have you seen the movie Back to the Future?

Unknown Speaker  13:14  

I have. Yeah. Alright,

Unknown Speaker  13:15  

let’s get that Dory with Marty. And let’s go back to the double dues to 22 year old. Jason. What kind of knowledge nuggets we call them here. Time to shine today? What kind of knowledge nuggets might you drop on the 22 year old Jason, that’s so much changing things, your journey is pretty kick ass right. But to maybe help them shorten the learning curve blast through and level up maybe just a little bit quicker.

Unknown Speaker  13:34  

I think that I probably the number one thing I would tell that person is that it doesn’t have to happen overnight. I think when you’re 22, it feels like you’re 52 you feel I need to make a million dollars this year. And this is just simply not the case. You know, I didn’t start a company until I was 27. And I was the youngest guy that I was personally friends with that it started a company at that point. And so you know, at 22 I would tell myself to keep going on the path that I’m on. But to give myself like the grace to understand that these these really important things do take time. And ultimately, if I had if I had had my wildest dreams, Scott when I was 22 and got the desires that I’d have, I’d be kind of a burnt out gambler in Vegas probably right now. Or something silly. Like if I had gotten my wildest dreams. That’s like the worst thing that could happen to a 22 year old as you get your wildest dreams because the girl you end up with the money you got the house you pick and all the other things are probably going to be kind of horrifying to you when you look back on him as an older adult.

Unknown Speaker  14:33  

That’s such a great, such a great saying because it happened to me. I mean, I didn’t have the money but I had some success. And then I got the money and then that money disappeared because I didn’t have the identity to happen. You know a lot of them don’t and I love that you said that. So how excuse How do you want your dash remember that little line in between your incarnation date, your expiration date, your life date, your death and hopefully it’s way way down the road. But how do you want to As you remember from

Unknown Speaker  15:00  

Well, for starters, this symbol is going to be on my tombstone, it’s going to be the spearing Clover symbol for sure. And honestly, you know, the thing that I I look back on that I’m most proud of is the children that are walking around because their parents met at my gym, in my community. And so what I think of myself as doing now, whether I’m connecting to people, or whether I’m helping somebody to give birth to an idea that eventually eventually makes a huge impact on the world, as I say, we are making business babies here, right. And so, so if my headstone could say, you know, he made business babies, you know, below being, you know, a beloved father and husband, I think that would be, that would be pretty great. Because, you know, to me, there’s just no greater expression of the American spirit, than creating something where once there was nothing, and, and having that thing, a reflection of virtue and the things and an ethic and the thing that you believe in, and then bringing people together towards it.

Unknown Speaker  15:57  

Love it. And the only way I probably agree with me on this is a little weak and get there, you know, creating something where there’s nothing is really being curious, right? I mean, Curiosity is the biggest superpower I know you’re curious, is how because every time I start a conversation with you flip it on me, you’re like, Oh, so you, you like, Dude, you and I probably wouldn’t be able to have a beer or something. Find out, right. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, we will for sure. So, what do you think Jay? People must understand about you the most?

Unknown Speaker  16:29  

I don’t know. I don’t feel very misunderstood. I think that part of what both of us do, Scott is communicate well. And so if I’m ever misunderstood, typically it’s redirected. I don’t think I could give you a great answer for that question. Other than that, I don’t feel misunderstood by people very often.

Unknown Speaker  16:50  

That’s awesome. And I think one reason for that, Jay, and correct me if I’m wrong, but you build tribes, you bring you build squads, like if someone was looking from the outside, and you’re like, Yes, I’m not. That guy’s crazy. You know, but because you’re so involved with your squad. Like there’s really no misunderstanding, and that’s a reflection of just your kick Asness man, you know, which I really appreciate that man. And so how about anything keep you up at night?

Unknown Speaker  17:19  

You know, I’m not a very stressed guy anymore. I I think actually I’ll tell you what keeps me up at night. This is this is true. I talk to people like yourself people like Angelo Cisco people like I don’t know if you know Angelo, but you gotta meet Angelo. Alpha hippie is his his company. He is unbelievable human being, and other people like that. And I say, Look, you found jujitsu for life, you found the ability to balance through all of these things, and kind of hold homeostasis without a big sweat. Right? You’re You’re you’ve got a good optimism, you’ve got a good outlook on life, you can answer the questions that life throws at you. Typically, you know, except for the really hard ones. The real question is, how do you how do you stimulate yourself towards change, though? How do you grow from that? Because I think it’d be very easy to get to a place where you’re like, Yeah, I help, you know, six to 12 companies a month I help, I can give them the right answers. I’ve spent 25 years becoming an answering machine for this job. So that part’s easy. For me, that part’s easy for you. So the question is where do i Where do I go sniffing out trouble trouble, right? Is that starting something? Is that moving out of service into products? Is that Is it reading a book or writing a book? Is it public speaking it could be any number of things but the thing that keeps me up at night if there were any I slept pretty well. Aside from when Lucy’s crying. But that would probably be the thing is like, Okay, I feel really good where I am. Is this it? Or can I push myself and push them out of the room and go from there?

Unknown Speaker  18:52  

Right, it absolutely man if I get I’m the same way about leveling up. I have to have a whole like bookend my day at night. I have to have a protocol I’m gonna have a solid protocol in the morning with getting moving getting hydrated getting lit, you know, outside sun on my skin. Sure, like at night, it’s, you know, I found I found it a pretty good groove now with a little bit of cannabis, and a little bit of meditation, you know, and that’s really been up in my sleep score my aura ring and went nap. Which, which I’m happy to do but man, I was the worst sleeper now. My lady’s like, man, you’re sleeping. Are you sleeping through the night? I’ve noticed it in the morning me and 50 years old, I’m so much more energized and be able to get up and get rolling. So what is then your definition of a life well lived?

Unknown Speaker  19:41  

Oh, gosh, a life well lived for me and for an entrepreneur who’s who I serve, is having a family that sees you, having friends that you’re able to enjoy time with having a business that you still are passionate about and love the way you did when you started it and how Having the financial resources or assets, to be able to do the things that you want to do with those people when you want to, it’s not some lavish extreme amount of money, or it’s not some crazy amount of success that requires you to work a crazy amount of time. It’s the ability to, to move and to be nimble and to do the things that you care about. And to have those people in your life that you care about care about you in return. I think so. So often entrepreneurs become like this Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde. And they think that it’s that they have to and the React the reality is is because they choose to

Unknown Speaker  20:35  

love it. One thing I’m hearing from you is you love to live your life with options and not obligations. You know, I’m saying it’s like, there’s certain things you’re gonna have to pay no matter what I mean, your rent or your house payment or whatnot, but you also you know, make a living for your family and you’re making a life for your family so you can do things with options and have a lot of fun. Hopefully I said that right for I want to paraphrase too much but that’s what I’m hearing throughout the whole thing and that’s what you want for others as well live a life of options not obligation. So you know, how about three let’s take out computers cell phones, anything technological out of this question, like what are three things Jason can’t live without?

Unknown Speaker  21:15  

A heavy backpack? A jujitsu Ghee or rashguard

Unknown Speaker  21:22  

and a hat that got the lids bro you’re always rocking the lids man. I love it. I love it. Time to shine today podcast for our suit squad we’re back in JSON when we meet up probably sit down have a brain grenade or two or just you know, cup of coffee or whatever your flavor is and, and discuss some of these questions. 1520 minutes. But we got five seconds today with no explanations. You ready to level up? Yes, sir. Let’s do it. Let’s do this. Jason, what’s the best leveling up advice you’ve ever received?

Unknown Speaker  21:52  

Have a mentor, beautiful.

Unknown Speaker  21:54  

share one of your personal habits that contributes to your success.

Unknown Speaker  21:57  

I float once a month in a float tank and I go on ruck marches every single week.

Unknown Speaker  22:01  

I love it. Love it. How much is in that rucksack?

Unknown Speaker  22:05  

40 pounds on my back and if I’m feeling frisky it’s a 40 pound log on my shoulder.

Unknown Speaker  22:09  

Big man. Love it bro. So you see me walking down the street and like man Fergie looks like he’s in his diligence man. I want him to read this what book is

Unknown Speaker  22:20  

not feeling good. You know Rich Dad Poor Dad. Probably your Saki

Unknown Speaker  22:26  

actually. Maybe. Love it, man. Love it. So what’s your most commonly used emotion when you’re taxed?

Unknown Speaker  22:33  

Oh, either the head blown one. The guy with the exploded head. We’re just the smiley face. I’m a big smiley face guy.

Unknown Speaker  22:40  

Love it. Nicknames growing up. Skis. Skis. Just checkers. A monopoly. Chess,

Unknown Speaker  22:50  

you smarty pants. All right, man. They go to ice cream flavor.

Unknown Speaker  22:54  

Monk. Moose Tracks.

Unknown Speaker  22:57  

Yo, there’s a sandwich called the Spees build that sandwich for me brother.

Unknown Speaker  23:04  

Oh, that’s probably got bacon. It’s got eggs on it. It’s got definitely has like sprouts. I’m one of those guys where if I get to pick my own thing, I put everything on it and it’s not good. So then like lettuce, tomato, onion, and a pickle.

Unknown Speaker  23:21  

Where you started with man candy. That’s all it matters. I mean big good stuff, brother. favorite charity and organization like you give your time or money to.

Unknown Speaker  23:30  

I’m trying to think of the name of it. But it’s the it’s it’s for soldier suicide. And I do the ruck march form every year it’s the name is escaping me off the top my head. But that’s a big cause that I believe in strongly. So many young men and women go into the military because they want to serve their country because they need direction but they give their life to it. And it’s just such a shame when somebody takes their own life as a result of their experience.

Unknown Speaker  23:55  

Thanks for Thanks for doing that man. I mean you also donated so graciously to the suicide prevention hotline for because for coming on the show and huge about that you my little brother took his life you know ex military as well and had three guys I did the deed downrange with in Iraq, that if that did the same thing, so thank you for saying that, man. So thus, last question. You can elaborate on this one even more, but what what’s the best decade of music 60s 70s 80s or 90s?

Unknown Speaker  24:24  

Oh, I mean, it’s got to be I guess it’d be like 65 to 75 right but but just what Classic Rock is I think he’s kind of objectively the and not because I even like it I do. But it seems like every decade moves on and classic rock stays the same. There’s not a lot of like, you know, disco channels. There’s not a lot of folk music channels. There’s not a lot of even the 90s stuff, which I think is probably a second like, like, like grunge and are in like that area. I think those two I think it’s probably there’s a socio economic reason to it like there’s probably like Something happening in the culture. And I also I strongly believe that we’re kind of going through our version of the 60s and 70s. Kind of right now. But yeah, yeah. And so I could give you a bunch of examples of why I think that but but yeah, so I think the music, you know, hopefully will come back around, the concern would be, is there so much propagation of music that it’s tough to, like, find really great art that’s out there. Now? I don’t know. We’ll see.

Unknown Speaker  25:27  

It’s funny when I’m, when I’m building show notes, or podcasts and whatnot, I’m always listening to, like the full key 70s from like, Croce and stuff like that. And then I’d love my eagles, you know, my favorite group of all time. I’m an 80s. You know, I was born in 72. So I’m like an 80s, baby, kind of with the stuff next, so much has happened in the 70s and 80s. With regards to invasions from different countries with like YouTube, or men at work, and, you know, the stories I told them what’s funny, Jay, is that 90% of songs today, have a hook from the 80s. You know, I’m saying like, you listen to whether it’s pipl or flow rider, anything movement, they’re using, like, You spin me round, you know, is the same from from Yeah, so I’m right there with the 70s 70s and 80s. For me, so, but yeah, how can we find your brother

Unknown Speaker  26:19  

that’s great for asking before I tell you that I want everybody listening to this to go to it’s time to shine today and follow it like it subscribe it, share it with a friend to get Scott is pouring his soul out for this show. It is so evident if you’re listening to this already, you know, but once you’ve done that, if you still have a moment, go to www dot spear and clover.com you can find it it’s where we have some free programs and free stuff on there for you. We also have Instagram as my preferred platform. So that’s at spear and clover or at Jason ski sick with no spaces. I’m also of course on Twitter, Instagram, LinkedIn, Facebook, you can find me on Twitter, tick tock, but I abandoned that platform. So I’d love to hear from you. I like to chop it up with entrepreneurs. I do it every single day. I was retired for a year this past year and I’m just now coming back to work and every single day I talked to an entrepreneur even when I wasn’t getting paid for it.

Unknown Speaker  27:13  

I love it man in all in squat all those platforms are solid, like really good whether it’s his YouTube channel, which is really spot I’m actually scrolling it right now. Fantastic whether it’s LinkedIn, I’ll even has a little Twitter thing going on which is great. It’s beautiful man. So if you get to be one last solid Jason and leave us with one last Knowledge Nugget we can kind of take with us internalize and take action on

Unknown Speaker  27:41  

your life is a three chambered heart. One of which is your professional or entrepreneurial life one of which is your social and family life and one of which is yourself. You cannot add more blood to one section at a time without taking from the other two. And so the only way for you to make that heart bigger and expand your capability in this world is to do all of those things simultaneously and incrementally.

Unknown Speaker  28:04  

Yeah, and I love that what I what I get out of that is harmony man like so many people want balance to me balance is zero. We’re dead that’s I think that’s what balance is and I kind of like in like you have the heart right which is awesome. I like to make like a jazzman. Like you know you have your god your personal growth your family, your community your work and each one of those is a different instrument like the family could be the drums the living environment could be the guitar the money is the piano whatever it is out of tune, bro. Yeah, sounds like crap. You know? So I like to keep the jazz band going and enrolling I love that and that’s exactly what you do in squad we had a fun super fun conversation but also excuse me they’re a free masterclass. You know, there’s some that had a kind of a behavior disorder entrepreneurs as lead ADHD, you know, he can’t But with that, he looked at as a gift and became a student of the world. You know, he didn’t really have that direction. So he joined the military, dug holes, he learned a lot of discipline from that. And he understood that he had a spirit of a puppy and but also military mindset, which keeps your loyal keeps your discipline keeps you progressing, you know, he really learns to pay attention and in every situation, you know, a good coach. Yeah, like we use the plus equals minus but he brought up you should have a coach, you know, someone that you can look up to, also in also your peers to bounce stuff off. And he’s a big believer in the vibe attracting his tribe. He puts that vibe out there, you know, and he also brought up subject matter experts like magicians, and he takes their gifts, codifies it scales it and he gets them on the right track to get their message out there by taking massive action. You know, he’s more interested in your story than telling you his and I dig people like that a real Shepherd, somebody that’s going to help guide you to where you need to get You know, you should remember that what you’re going after does not happen overnight that you know inch by inch. It’s a cinch right? swabbed by the art. It’s hard. I’m always saying that but also if you get stuck, get like my good friend Leah Woodford would say, get your asking here, get out there and ask for the right advice. You know, he’s a big believer in wanting to level up the youth, you know, in have business babies and have them have the success that he’s actually kind of working through this parent their parents sometimes and have that been passed down to them. He’s big into creating something where there was nothing and using that to help you as a gift to the world in level up. He’s seriously planting trees that Jason’s never gonna sit in the shade of, you know, he’s all about it, the hearts in and love how he broke it down. It’s kind of like my version of the harmony with a three chambered heart with your professional family and yourself. They’ve all got to be working together to be healthy. And that’s what my boy Jason Usik does. The host of the spearing Clover podcast, you gotta go check it out. Now you’re allowed to Now squat, but he levels up his healthy levels up as well. He started his varsity squad letter here at time to shine today. I love you guys, brother. I cannot wait to collaborate with brother.

Unknown Speaker  31:15  

I love it. Scott, thank you so much for having me on. And thank you to the listeners for making it this far.

Unknown Speaker  31:20  

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