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Unknown Speaker  0:11  

to shine today podcast varsity squad at Scott Ferguson and we’re at episode 276. And I get moved by every interview that I do, because everybody has a special story, special techniques special protocol to really help you level up. But this story brought a tear to my eye for reals, for reals and its will to yours to my good friend Trisha Roos, author of when wishes change, and she went through something that I wish on absolutely nobody with the death of a child, and that I’m not even going to share I’m gonna let you share her share it with you because it’s just it’s an amazing story. I left the interview levelled up, and I literally had a coaching session afterwards. And I felt so great because of the journey that Trisha shared with me. And I was able to really have my best session with with one of my clients. So without further ado, here’s the author of wishes change and my really good friend Tricia ruse. Let’s level up. Time to shine, podcast Farsi spot, this is Scott Ferguson, I have my Ruby gurus here, hell of a story, Rod, just you’re going to be touched in the heart in any other part of your body. When you hear the story from my friend, Trisha, how she’s taking adversity and leveling up, and she’s spreading the word on stages, YouTube videos, and whatnot. Everything will be in the show notes that go to that after you listen to this awesome interview. We also have a book giveaway at the end of the interview as well. But Tricia is a Dallas wife and mother who built a winning career in sports and high school admissions, but found her greatest victory in loss against the advice of medical experts. Tricia carried full term child she was worn with die at birth or before that season, Tricia his team win every game the child grew, the child in her grew and eventually she held and loved the daughter who wasn’t supposed to live and six brief days. In six days of brief and remarkable life, Annabelle Roos rewrote the medical chapter on I’m gonna butcher this word cromoz All from Ozel condition called Trisomy 18. Giving life to a story that galvanized a large high school, a big city readers of when wishes change and audiences nationally, nationally, that’s her book and was just changing in squad I want to introduce yourself, introduce you to Tricia and if you could, Trisha, come on introduce yourself to the time to shine today podcast. Firstly, squad. But first, what’s your favorite color in why?

Unknown Speaker  2:49  

Oh, I love teal. I just feel okay. calming and soothing. But it’s also bright. That’s gonna have it has two parts.

Unknown Speaker  2:58  

It’s nice. And I’m not trying to rub it inks. I know it’s snowing there in Texas. But the ocean right now is a nice little view of steel. So Trisha, you’ve went through a ton. I’m just a ton. My mother went through the same thing in a sense, where my older sister was born prematurely that which made her that made her but got there to adopt me. And what’s crazy is that, and that would have been born was born on October 21 of 1971. But she was due February 21 of 72. And that’s my birthday. So she ended up adopting me so I guess I was my mom’s, you know, blessing as well. But can we get in a little bit of the story? In squad you’re gonna hear just a fantastic story. I’ve watched on YouTube need to go there as well. But first listen to it here.

Unknown Speaker  3:48  

Yeah, absolutely. So um, much like most of us, like right out of college. I wanted to start my career. And I always had a passion for coaching. I love coaching or the idea of coaching. And so I landed my dream job when I was 22. I became the director of admissions at the largest coed Catholic school in Texas and, and then within a year moved up in was the head varsity volleyball coach. So my first season was rough, it was a lot of learning. And then by the second season, I won my first state championship. And from there, you know, Texas volleyball is really big. And so from there, we never looked back. We were always finishing in the finals or winning. You know, I was building my career and my husband and I, we knew we wanted to have children, but it was so hard with our careers to you know, figure out when that fit in. And so we had our first child healthy, easy pregnancy in 2011. Right before another state championship in 2012. And so then we won state in 2012 and 2013. And in 2014, I was right at that So where things were going so well with my job, but I really wanted another child. Um, so I was pregnant and you know, assumed, like my first pregnancy would go really easily. But around 12 weeks along, we did a blood test to find out gender. And we did find out that we were having a girl, my son specifically requested a lady baby is what he called it. So he was thrilled about that, however, she tested positive in the blood test for trisomy 18. And most of us all know Down syndrome, and that’s Trisomy 21. Okay, so Trisomy 18, is more severe than Down syndrome, usually accompanied by a lot of heart defects, and issues with the brain. And so from a lot of the testing, they let us know that she only had a two chamber hearts, which, you know, from freshman biology, you’re so set for not to write. And so it was actually recommended to us to have an abortion. And I just felt in that moment, like, besides my face, you know, as a coach, you train people to fight till the end, right. And no matter the opponent you’re playing, you give it your all. And if you lose, you lose. But at least if you try your hardest, you gave it everything you had. And I felt like that was my time for my athletes, and to just be an example, for giving it everything I had. And so we decided to continue the pregnancy. Despite the recommendations and the odds stacked against her, we were fully prepared to probably go into labor early and have a stillbirth. That was what was expected. And we were given about a five or 10% chance of even making it full term. And then I was told if she was born alive, she would only live moments. So my my volleyball team rallied together to just support us, I got this bad news and July 15 2014, and the volleyball season started August 1. And we went on to win that three peat State Championship, the whole season, they dedicated to my daughter Annabelle, and just her life and for our fight. And then a month and a half later, she was miraculously born alive. And instead of living moment, she lived days. And so that little girl, every doctor, every nurse was just in tears, and in shock of what they were seeing before their eyes, because no one could believe it how this little girl was living without oxygen tank or in any kind of incubator, and she was completely fine. And she did have apnea episodes where she was stopped breathing, and we knew her life would be short, there was no doubt that she couldn’t live in normal life like us. But it also proved that her life was valuable and had purpose. And she did die in my arms at six days old. But, you know, since then it’s been seven years, and I’ve just reflected on that opportunity that I got to be her mom, and to fight for her. And that’s the idea of where my book came from called when wishes change because all of us have these dreams and wishes that we’ve hoped for our whole life. But what do you do when it doesn’t come true? Exactly how you planned it? How do you move on and pivot? And how do you see tragedy as opportunity. And so that’s really the message that I want to spread. And we did have our rainbow baby Andy, who’s a vibrant five year old girl who is living her best life and we’re still you know, sad and mourning that loss. But at the same time, I feel like we looked at it as a great opportunity. And we got to celebrate her life, although it was really short.

Unknown Speaker  8:55  

You know, there is an attachment that a mother again, I’m not old lady, obviously but there’s an attachment that you have to your offspring. Okay. And you going through this and you found out kind of early correct that she was with the trust, trisomy Trisomy 18 trisomy, sorry. So what kind of emotions were really wreaking havoc on you maybe not so much that you’re showing to your team. But maybe that your hubby saw more of me what kind of like, just emotions that we’re going through if you don’t mind answering that. Yeah, that’d be digging. Oh,

Unknown Speaker  9:36  

you know what, I made a really dumb conflict choice to be vulnerable and to not put on a front to certain people and be different around others. Now. I will say there was much more tears and crying at home and in the car. Sure in there. We’re on the volleyball court. I mean, of course to some extent I was trying to be strong But one thing that came to me really early is that, you know, so many people are going through hard time. But they don’t tell you, they don’t show it. And that is more painful, I think, than just being vulnerable and allowing the real you to come out. And so on days where I was just really angry, or really sad, I would tell people, I’m having a bad day, like, I’m just really in a bad place right now. And I wasn’t looking for sympathy. I wasn’t looking for anyone to treat me differently. I was wanting to be honest. And I was wanting to be vulnerable. And my book is really open and vulnerable. There’s so many times when I was writing, that I was like, I better erase the last few paragraphs, because that’s a lot to admit to an audience, that I was angry at God and how mad I was, or, you know, how I saw myself as a failure some time. But then I thought about it. And I was like, this is for everybody that really has these feelings, because we all do have doubt and hopelessness. Sure, but the message is you just keep fighting. But the next, come with the best. And then when you get down, and when you emotionally can’t handle it anymore. You just fight your way back the next day. And

Unknown Speaker  11:29  

that’s exactly what you’re coaching.

Unknown Speaker  11:31  

Yeah, no, exactly. I think that as a coach my whole life, a lot of those principles from teaching kids came, I was like speaking to myself, I was like, alright, Trisha, like, what you tell others and apply it right? Because that is what will get you through that,

Unknown Speaker  11:49  

you know, is what I’m seeing a lot in is what I coach my clients as well as kind of neutral thinking, in a sense, where, you know, people will say, you know, you can’t have positive thinking 100% of the time, right? I mean, you just can’t, it’s impossible. You’re you’ve been in sports, I played sports in high levels. So you know, that your things are going to happen that are not positive thinking. So you can’t have positive thinking 100% of the time. But what does work 100% of the time is negative thinking. So I saw a lot of you stay neutral during allow the situation ship being vulnerable. Is that a right way to say it maybe a little bit your neutral a lot of

Unknown Speaker  12:29  

time? Yeah. Or I would allow myself to have the sad emotion, or the disappointment. I mean, it’s like in a game, when you call a timeout, nearly you’re doing that for a reason. Because the team isn’t necessarily thinking back to neutral, right? You’re like bringing everybody back, you’re letting everybody wallow in it for a half a second, and like a deep breath. And then you’re allowing yourself a little bit of time for that before you say it’s time to jump back out there and get with it. And I think that by allowing yourself to have those moments of grief, of sadness of you know, disappointment, or whatever your brain is telling you and just sitting in that for a minute and working through it. But you have to coach yourself back out, or, you know, if you can’t coach yourself back out, I really strongly believe in having a really tight community, like that friend that you can be completely honest with. Or for me, it was like these Facebook communities of other Trisomy 18. Moms, yes. And a couple people that I found that I was able to text or call if I was having a bad day because I knew that they could directly relate to my situation.

Unknown Speaker  13:42  

Love it. Yeah, that’s fantastic, is that you had that kind of lack of a better term support system to bounce things off of. So this the what Annabelle, like went through you said that she kind of made some changes in thoughts along the way. Maybe medical research maybe leveled up from her being able to live six gracious days.

Unknown Speaker  14:09  

Yeah. Okay. Now, um, I appreciated this about the hospital and some of the staff afterwards was that they admitted that they failed in some ways. And to sort of put this in perspective, this was 2014 and I met with the entire NICU staff, you know, every doctor and everybody prior to birth, and I remember them just looking really sad and like, Oh, we’re so sorry about this. And I asked the question, Have any of you delivered a live Trisomy 18 birth like, in other words, not a stillbirth or like delivering a child that was not dead? And no one in the room head? And these are doctors with really high levels of experience and years under their belt? And I remember asking, am I in the right place? Should I be at a different hospital and they’re like, nobody likes it. slices in this. And so it meant that if she was born alive, this would be something brand new to a whole lot of people. Um, so along the way, I think that there is a little bit of a scarlet letter on her where, oh, she has Trisomy 18, we shouldn’t try a feeding tube, we shouldn’t do this, we shouldn’t do that. And I think that was a lot of just, you know, the red tape in the medical world. They don’t want to be accountable or be responsible for the death of anyone. And since Annabelle was born, there have been I don’t know how many but numerous, trisomy 18 birth in the hospital. And their approach has changed to where they are more willing to. Not it’s not life saving care, it’s more called comfort care. Okay, you know, they refuse to put a feeding tube in her to give her milk, because she couldn’t swallow. And I just couldn’t understand how you would starve a child like I get that she’s not going to live very long. But I’m just asking that you do what it takes to keep her comfortable. Yes. And when we got home, we actually had these nurses that that came as friends, and inserted a feeding tube in her stomach on my bed in my room and did it just fine. And we were able to give her milk, but it wasn’t something they were willing to do in the hospital. And so I think that mindset has changed. There was a doctor that I met with that was just in tears that said, we were taught in medical school that these babies cannot survive and cannot live. And Annabelle proved us otherwise. And I want to be clear, like there are alive Trisomy 18. Men and women children in the world. Not but with her heart condition, right? Like the two hours instead of four, right? That made it a little bit more difficult to the Trisomy

Unknown Speaker  17:00  

18. The ones that have actually survivor, they kind of have a Down syndrome, like aspect to them

Unknown Speaker  17:06  

developmental delays, and usually they have a feeding tube. But there’s been so much progress in that world where there are more advocates for mothers to keep the pregnancy and to you know, allow the baby to be born or try, you know, to go full term. Because there are a lot of babies that can survive if they have you know, the four chambers in their heart or, you know, other things that aren’t sure here’s Annabelle and if you’ve ever known a child with disabilities, you know that they’re just like such a happy blessing in the world. Like, yeah, their outlook and their love for others. And they’re usually like very affectionate, right. And, um, you know, I will say like, one thing that stuck out to me about the doctor who told us the abortion was, this might be too hard for your three year old and like, don’t put him through this.

Unknown Speaker  18:01  

I was gonna ask that as one of my questions with your son. You know, how was his I guess lack of better term reaction to you not really bring in a did you kind of prepare him for it in a sense, or, like not having that baby lady? Was that what he called it? Young lady? Baby lady, baby. Yeah. So how was his?

Unknown Speaker  18:24  

Yeah, you know what? So the Bible talks a lot about having a face of a child. And I never understood that until I watched it through the eyes of my son. And if you actually go to the homepage of my website, the very first picture you’ll see is him holding Annabelle the day before she died, and the love that he had for her in the womb and outside of the womb. And he just we pray about her every day, we still talk about her if anyone on the street says hey, do you have any siblings, he would always tell you two sisters, one in heaven and one on Earth. And I believe that his plan and purpose for his life will be impacted so positively from this, you know, he may become the doctor that cures it or has, you know, some kind of hand and children with special needs. He has, you know, that affinity to science already. And he asked a lot of questions when he sees a child with disabilities he’s like is that what Annabelle would look like? And he smiles. And so I think that all of us think that we have to shelter our kids from the world which granted Of course, there’s a lot of things that we don’t want them to hear and see, right. But life there’s a lot of loss, and there is a lot of grieving, whether it’s losing their grandparent or a parent or a sibling or a friend. We’ve got to let them experience some of that and help them through that. Well, because, you know, I work with teenagers for 20 years. And if you shelter your teenager from heartbreak and heart ache, I have seen the worst anxiety, depression and stress from teenagers and they’re dealing with it for the first time because they don’t know how

Unknown Speaker  20:19  

or when they’re in their 20s. In the look at MLS face to or she’s smiling at him. Yeah, no, look, that’s beautiful. I’m tearing up squat is me amazing. The love that in the perseverance we’re seeing here. And so like I’m, I have affinity because I’m adopted as well adapted a little older. You know, so I work with a cap with children are waiting parents. So like, that’s something I actually get down and dirty with where sometimes I stroke a check at something, but this is one. So I see a lot of the patients that have that and to hear your story. Know that there’s hope, and know that they are just, like living that lifestyle of like, just happy. You know, they don’t I get I love that you said that. So what do you think then? People misunderstand the most about you?

Unknown Speaker  21:20  

Um, well, I think that. So one thing that’s really interesting about grief that I’ve found is that initially, after Annabel was born and died, I would have had maternity leave, I would have had a bereavement. And I went back to work, I think two weeks after the funeral, like limping around, still recovering from a C section because I need to get back into my work. And the grief didn’t hit me, or I didn’t process it well until like five years after. And so it was really interesting that I was going through a lot of grief processing, after she died way after she died. And then I started writing. And then memories that were so locked up in the back of my brain that I had hidden, and didn’t want to approach at all came like back, like in the middle of the night, I would just wake up and I would have to write. Because this memory that I just didn’t remember before that came back to me, right. And so um, I’ve been really passionate about speaking about that, and letting people understand that, like, I could see someone seeing me and be like, Well, I knew you two years after Annabelle died, and like you didn’t say anything about it. And now you’re talking about it all the time. And I think there’s just something about time with grief and processing. That personally for me has taken several years to understand. And, and I don’t think we should or can judge anyone that is experiencing anxiety. I mean, I had to get on anxiety medication. And my husband went through a bit of an an episode that was really severe, where he was literally in tears every minute of the day, and didn’t sleep and had like a psychotic episode five years after her death, and had to get on some really strong depression medication. Like that seems so weird to a lot of people like why what’s wrong with you? Shouldn’t you be open by now. But that is not how grief works, then. And now I feel like I can talk about Annabelle and art variants without shedding those tears like I used to. But it took a lot of time in perspective to get there.

Unknown Speaker  23:50  

Understood and the process I do own it. And it’s 12 years ago that my little brother killed himself. And that’s still it processes it. Like when I was going through it. I was so stoic and whatnot. I let my emotion show but then it was probably as oh nine and probably like 2013 it just unleashed on me. It was the craziest situation. And you know, I’m a veteran. And you know, I had already suffered from some PTSD. So luckily, I had the support, like you said, surround yourself the tribe. How’s that? So then, what keeps you up at night now?

Unknown Speaker  24:29  

Well, I think that I, I still have some anxiety and I worry, but that is an innate thing that I think is always been in me. And that’s kind of that thing that I am like called to fight back on. And so I think a lot of us have like our demons that haunt us or the things that bother us. And for me, it’s like anxiety and worry, but I will say like whatever it is that you struggle with. It is a constant like pursuit of finding that hope and finding your purpose and passion. I’m like, I’m coaching volleyball. I’m the director of a club, where like, I coach, the coaches, it’s so much fun, I have all this experience, now I get to impart that on, you know, 20 something year old coaches better. Because it COVID I’ve been called to the frontline several times, where they’re like, hey, we need you to coach this weekend. So last weekend, I was coaching like three weekends, it’s all COVID related, you know, and I remember like, now that I’m in charge of people, human, you know, making the decisions from the bench. I like didn’t sleep for a couple nights in a row, because I felt so like, like, I have to take care of these girls and learn their names and learn their tendencies and their strengths and their weaknesses and watch film. So I can be the best coach that I can be for them. Sure. And so that’s kind of always been like my anxiety, or I guess you could call it some perfectionism like I, you know, do it a little bit. But I know that about myself and I see the pattern when I need to back down or calm down a little bit. Because it’s not healthy to be like that all the time.

Unknown Speaker  26:13  

Right state of alertness actually ages, your body dumps the cortisol in there. And ages you. So how do you want your dash remember, then that little line between your incarnation date and your expiration date, your life date, your death date? How do you want Tricia stash remember,

Unknown Speaker  26:29  

I want to be known as a person that was relational, and had an impact on others. And that’s why I think I love coaching so much, because I really believe it has a true, like one on one connection with another human being. And I still keep in touch with. I don’t, I don’t even know how many athletes that I’ve coached over 20 years at all. So they’re married, they’re having kids, they’re experiencing life. And I also want to be seen as like an example of someone who walked the walk, you know, tell people what to do and how to do it. I also worked hard myself and fought for everything I had and never gave up.

Unknown Speaker  27:19  

Love it, you have it. And like, I think one thing that helped you through this a lot with Annabelle is your relationship with competition in sports, you know, and again, you have the fighting spirit, and not to make it any easier. But it made you a little bit more prepared for that situation. So we have this is a different kind of interview than I usually do. So I’m super excited about this. But we have a lightning round where I asked nine or 10 questions, would you be interested in firing through a lightning round? I love it. Time to shine today podcast versus squad. This is Scott Ferguson. And I don’t know you about you, but I’m a pretty stoic person. And I literally had a tear coming down my eyes just from the story. And it’s not big. It’s just because it resonated and this is real life. And somebody that’s really persevered. And, you know, we have a lovely enough lightning round, which is fun. And Trisha has agreed to do it with us. So Trisha, you and I could talk probably 15 to maybe even an hour and each one of these questions, but you got five seconds to answer them with no explanations. You’re ready to rock.

Unknown Speaker  28:31  

I got it. All right, here we go.

Unknown Speaker  28:33  

What is the best leveling up advice Trisha has ever received?

Unknown Speaker  28:38  

A fight through every obstacle.

Unknown Speaker  28:41  

Yes, sure. One of your personal habits that contributes to success

Unknown Speaker  28:45  

journaling. Often me

Unknown Speaker  28:47  

too, yes. Other than your websites, which is Trisha ruse.com. Also when wishes changed, calm, and of course time to shine today.com my shameless plug what website district you’d like to go to to level up?

Unknown Speaker  29:01  

Oh, I’m, I’m a big fan of John Gordon, though. I like a lot of his books.

Unknown Speaker  29:05  

Very good. Very good. So other than when which has changed and you see me walking down the street. I’m in my doldrums Fergie is not feeling that he’s not looking good. Other than when wishes change? What book would you hand me?

Unknown Speaker  29:19  

Oh, um, well, I just read the subtle art of not giving an S Maybe you just need to like chill a little bit and read.

Unknown Speaker  29:31  

Thank you. Thank you so much. You’re most commonly used emoji when you text

Unknown Speaker  29:36  

um, I kind of do the like, I don’t know like what the hands up. I don’t know what that’s called.

Unknown Speaker  29:43  

Yeah, it said this little call. Nicknames growing up.

Unknown Speaker  29:48  

Trish Tricia Roos like or not Ruth. I was called Trish I have like, but it’s like half was my nickname.

Unknown Speaker  29:54  

Ah, no tea dog. Okay. No, I

Unknown Speaker  29:57  

was I wouldn’t eat dog also. chess or checkers, or chess?

Unknown Speaker  30:03  

Okay. Very favorite charity and organization like to give your time or money to,

Unknown Speaker  30:08  

oh, I love my Trisomy in organization, leukemia society because I did some I did a triathlon with them, and they do really great stuff.

Unknown Speaker  30:18  

Good. Awesome. Last question. You can elaborate on this one, my friend. But what is the best decade of music? 6070s 80s or 90s 100%?

Unknown Speaker  30:25  

The 90s There’s 90 here. Okay, I love

Unknown Speaker  30:31  

I graduated in 99. Right? So high school. So it’s like, I have the, like, the 80s, the big hair, don’t care. But also when I was in the Navy and going overseas and get ramped up, it was like, the 90s, like Nirvana kind of rolled in the garage mints, I love it, I love it. So let’s talk about this book, when we just changed, I know that you said you could wake up in the night and kind of throw up all over a piece of paper writing, you know, that’s when the things come to you, and you’re relaxed a bit. Let’s get into a little bit about this book. And we’ll also talk about this giveaway as well.

Unknown Speaker  31:04  

So it is a memoir, I guess, because it does talk about my journey and experiencing this pregnancy, but then also coaching teenage girls to a state championship. Um, one thing that I want to add is that it was made into a documentary, and the entire thing was on film, from literally, I think August 1, all the way till after she was born. And so every thing you’ll read is very true, because I was able to watch back the 1000s of hours of footage. But I needed this to be a lot more than my story. And I started writing in 2019 pre pandemic, and then I was writing all through the pandemic. And the book title kind of came to me in a discussion with my author. I mean, my editor, who just stopped me and said, You just used a phrase that I think you need to title the book. And I said, Well, what did I say? And she said, you said the phrase when wishes change. And I just I’ve been using that so much now. And I think all of us, it’s okay, and you should have dreams and wishes and goals. Sure. But like not all of those things are going to come to fruition exactly how you plan. And life is more about how you react to that change, and how you allow your wishes to evolve. Instead of being stubborn and being upset because something didn’t go your way. And then you’re so paralyzed by it, you can’t move on, and no uproot. For us. We wish for a healthy baby a healthy pregnancy, that would have been so easy, and so great. But that wasn’t my story. And so when we found out about the Trisomy 18, I just said, You know what, I just wish I can get to the end of the pregnancy. And then it was I wish I could meet her alive. And then when she was alive, I was like, I hope I can make it and I wish till the end of this day, or the next day. And we lived moment for moment. And so I think that as obstacles have come my way since then. I have to look at it and it’s okay to be mad upset. You know, change is hard, right? And be like, Okay, well then what’s my new wish? How am I going to tackle the new wish, because the old wish didn’t come true. And it’s time to move on?

Unknown Speaker  33:18  

Oh my gosh. And that is the God prepared you for this through with sports. And with competition. I’ve said that before. These really prepare, you can’t promote prepare the emotional side, but we just did is just kind of broke down how a team would kind of adapt and overcome situations where you want this and then you want this and you kept on climbing the mountain, even though you knew that the peak wouldn’t be all sunshine, rainbows, unicorns, and smooth jazz. You know what I’m saying? It’s like you did that? I’m so like, I have no right to say it’s I’m proud of you. You know what I’m saying? It’s like, Dude, I have so many engagements that I can think of right now. Where your story would resonate with persistence. While knowing that tragedies emanate. Ya know what I’m saying? It’s like that your base. I love your guts, man. You’re, you’re amazing. Amazing. Amazing. So,

Unknown Speaker  34:16  

so I want to add, I found out this news on July 14 2014 14. Okay, and the Jesus Calling excerpt from that book that day is about climbing your mountain, and how hard this trial and mountain is and how painful it will be right? But when you get to the top, it’s going to be glorious and amazing. And I remember reading that and I’m like, this is BS like,

Unknown Speaker  34:43  

I can’t do that today. You but I’m like yeah, I get it. Yeah,

Unknown Speaker  34:46  

I can’t imagine anything good coming out of this situation. It’s not possible. And now I read that in my heart is like that is so powerful that when you climb a mountain and it’s so hard in your eyes breath and you want to quit and give up, how amazing it is to sit up at the top and be like I did that. And now I can see over the valley and what’s on the horizon. And so

Unknown Speaker  35:10  

not only that tea dog, you can see the next peak, you didn’t stop climbing. What I heard was, I just want to get the term that I want to meet or be that’s a different peak. And that’s what A listers you know, my that’s what I call my my squat of the people that I coach you know, their varsity squad is that they like winners A listers, they, once they get to a peak, they set another one and you did that, under so much turmoil man, that’s I I’m just blown away in squad, we’re going to give a giveaway, I’m going to give away two bucks, my friend Trisha is going to sign them. And also I can’t wait to read it as well. I kind of want my Lady Susan to read it as well. We met later in life, but she lost her first daughter and she had four healthy kids after it. I think she’s gonna really enjoy this as well. And there’s so many lessons to be learned to anyone that puts in any of our social, whether it’s Pinterest, Instagram, LinkedIn, Twitter, anyone that puts wishes just put wishes in there. The first two will get a free book signed by Trisha and I will personally mail it to you as well. And, Trisha if you could just do me one last favor, could you please leave our squad with one last Knowledge Nugget you want us to take with us internalize and take action?

Unknown Speaker  36:34  

Sure, I think I would just say always allow your wishes to change. I mean, think about whatever it is you’re going through and your circumstance and especially if it’s something difficult right now like how are you going to allow your wishes to change so that you can find your next opportunity and and I promise when you do that there’s so much more in store for you. Yeah, original wish ever was?

Unknown Speaker  37:01  

Well in squad my my friend here Trisha T dog ruse legitly earned her varsity letter here with time to shine today I use of course I use sports metaphors all over the place. But you know, she she comes as from a background as a coach squad where they’re trained to fight to the end, never give up attitude called timeouts when needed go to neutral. And she lived that lifestyle in a human sense, knowing that Annabelle was probably not going to live the life that we’ve all feel that she would have deserved. You know, she, you know, Trisha talked about pivoting and then seeing the message and opportunity in the tragedy and she was doing that with each peak that she was going through with regards to different stages of her pregnancy with Annabelle, but she also surrounded herself with the tribe that would help her not only pre birth but post birth as well and surround herself with the right people. She touched people’s hearts with basically non believers that weren’t thinking that she would even make it determined she would be born stillbirth, yet she made it now she’s like this epitome of opening up research for the Trisomy 18. And you know, she is going to be remembered as some of the head of relational impact on others. She walked her talk she slid across home plate metaphorically bumped and bruised, but in a better place you know in to reminds us that life is how you act to change or respond to change, and just let your wishes evolve. And just keep leveling up in thinking and putting out there what you’d like and again, Trisha has earned a varsity letter here a time to shine today. She levels up her health she levels up her well. She’s a fantastic mother, fantastic coaches. Fantastic human being I love her guts. I can’t wait to collaborate and get her on stages soon with me. So thank you so much for for coming on.

Unknown Speaker  38:54  

Thanks for having me.

Unknown Speaker  38:55  

You bet. I’ll talk soon. Okay. Yep. Bye. Hey, thanks so much for listening to this episode of time to shine today podcast. proudly brought to you by Sutter in New Jersey real estate real estate excellence, who can be reached at 561-249-7266 and online at www dot Sutter in nugent.com. If you’re a business owner or professional who would like to be interviewed on time to shine today, please visit time to shine today.com Flash gust. If you’d like this up, so please subscribe on Apple podcasts, Google podcasts, Stitcher, Spotify, I Heart Radio or wherever you get your podcast. There’s a link in the show notes to our website. Also there you will see our recommended resources. We hope that you will support our show by supporting them. If you like what you’ve been listening to, it’d be great if you could just give us a five star rating and tell your friends to subscribe while you’re at it. I’m your host Scott Ferguson. And until next time, let’s level up it’s our time to shine.

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