369-A Rockstar Mother Bringing Notice and Support to Preeclampsia – TTST Interview with FLRRISH’S Jodi Klaristenfeld

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Jodi Klaristenfeld is mom to Jenna, an adorable little girl who was born at 28 weeks due to a rare and life-threatening form of preeclampsia called HELLP Syndrome. After Jenna’s early birth, Jodi quickly discovered preemie families aren’t always given the support they need. An attorney by education, Jodi now runs a family business in Manhattan. She is passionate about positivity, regularly meditating and exercising to keep her mind healthy and strong. Jodi created FLRRiSH to be a light in the dark, a source of information and inspiration for preemie families – cutting out confusion, managing overwhelm, and offering unwavering support.

  Don’t sweat the small stuff – have thick skin and disregard the negative

– Jodi Klaristenfeld

Knowledge Nuggets and Take-Aways

1. Jodi’s passion to support and educate ‘preemie’ families is paramount in her life

2. Jodi’s major goals are to have FLRRISH be aligned and affiliated with non-profits and hospitals

3. FLRRISH offers a solid mental hygiene protocol for families going through the preemie journey 

4. Parents who have a preemie have rights to advocate for themselves, Jodi can show you how!

5. Remember everyone’s growth and development is different and should be treated as such. 

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14:14:00 Time To Shine Today Podcast Varsity Squad.

14:14:10 This is Scott, Ferguson, and I got my lovely lady from up on the east coast.

14:14:15 My good friend Jody. Clara’s tenth feld, and I just kind of.

14:14:19 There’s 13 letters. We were joking off off mic about, you know, she went from a 4 letter last name into a long last name, and but we’re gonna have a lot of fun with this kind of heart tugging.

14:14:32 I was my whole story, which I’ve told and a lot of the squad has reached out and and really appreciate my story of my sister.

14:14:40 That was born. Premie passed away, and then me be an adopted on what would have been her birthday and me and Judy just had a really nice fun conversation, but you know Jodi is a mom to Jenna, an adorable little girl who was born at 28 weeks due to a

14:14:56 rare and life threatening form of free. I’m gonna let Jody say it.

14:15:00 But I’m gonna try it here pre Clem. See I we’ll get to let Jody say it, but it’s called Help Syndrome.

14:15:07 After Jennis early birth. Jodi quickly discovered premi.

14:15:10 Families aren’t always given the sport. They need an attorney by education from probably U.

14:15:14 Of M. And everyone knows I’m a Sparty.

14:15:16 But that’s okay. The jodie now runs a family business in Manhattan.

14:15:20 She’s passionate about positivity regularly meditating and exercise you to keep her mind healthy and strong.

14:15:26 Jodie created flourish, and it’s really cool.

14:15:27 A little spelling of it. It’s F. L. R.

14:15:30 Is a and I’ll get to the origin of that with Jodi here in a minute, and she created flourish to be a light in the dark, source of information inspiration for premie families putting out confusion, managing, overwhelming, offering unwavering, support jodi thank you, so much.

14:15:44 for coming on. Please introduce yourself to time to shine today.

14:15:46 Podcast firstly, squad. But first, what’s your favorite color?

14:15:49 And why?

14:15:52 Hmm!

14:15:49 My favorite color is green. Voice has been. Maybe it’s because I went to camp, and one of the colors was green, but and I’m a huge fan of going away to sleep.

14:16:01 Wake Camp. But also I think it’s the color of life and health and growth.

14:16:05 Growth. Yes, and Michigan state this is gonna be a phone conversation.

14:16:12 Yeah, I had to throw that in there, though, I had to throw it in there.

14:16:09 Oh, yes, that is true. Didn’t even realize that.

14:16:19 Yes.

14:16:18 But no, it’s green, it’s growth, it’s rebirth, you know, for lack of a better term.

14:16:24 Sure!

14:16:22 But, please, I would love to hear your story on, and also get to the kind of the feelings that you had and the emotions that you’re kind of rocking through with this.

14:16:31 But I just want the squat out there to hear this. Please.

14:16:34 Well, so my company is called Flourish. It’s a platform where we support, educate, and empower premium.

14:16:43 Nikki families through their journey in the Nicu and beyond.

14:16:46 Now when I say premie and Nicu, it’s because sometimes babies are in the Nicu, you even though they’re full term, and people don’t realize that.

14:16:54 But they might have some other forms of complications during birth.

14:16:58 I created it, because when I was in the Nicu I felt alone and scared and really confused.

14:17:08 Mostly I felt unsupported, and I had nowhere to turn to go for help.

14:17:13 I didn’t have a friend that I could talk to that fully understood what I was going through, and then, when I came home from the Nicqua, or excuse me when my daughter came home from the Nicu, I also didn’t have anywhere to turn to where to go and get help in terms of resources for

14:17:39 Right.

14:17:31 her? What would my parenting journey look like, and what would she need in order to grow and to thrive, especially during these first formative educational growth and developmental years of her life?

14:17:45 Hmm right!

14:17:47 So I created what I felt was missing from my journey, and put it all into a one stop shop, so to speak, where parents can go to get resources for their children and for themselves.

14:18:03 I’ll teach people how to advocate for themselves I don’t think parents know that they can ask for their state for help and for all these services that their children might qualify for, and I support parents by coaching them and letting them know that they’re not alone, and I support parents by coaching them and letting them know that they’re not alone, and that there’s no

14:18:29 shame in what they’re feeling, because people are very quick to judge if your child or anyone, for that matter, fits outside the box, and most people do fit outside the box.

14:18:41 Sure!

14:18:37 But somehow society dictates that we should all fit inside the box or check the box, and lastly, there are audio courses.

14:18:46 They’re little vignettes, stories about my Nikj journey.

14:18:52 Oh, wow!

14:18:51 They’re all 3 to 5 min long that I picture some parents listening to while they’re holding their children in the Nicu doing skin to skin.

14:19:01 Just listening again to success stories or some stories that were setbacks just again to make parents feel like they’re not alone.

14:19:10 Wow, so I’m gonna rewind you just a little bit right here because you came from you’re sitting there like what?

14:19:17 The wtf right? You’re like I’m alone here.

14:19:20 Other throne at me is jargon and you want your child to survive absolutely.

14:19:24 But you’re felt alone. You got home, and you’re driven person.

14:19:28 I mean, you have a U of M. Education, which I joke about that, but I mean, if I had a kid they would go to U of M.

14:19:33 Over Sparty all day, but, like you have that you’re driven attorney-educated.

14:19:38 You got home, and you just started digging in. Is that what happened and like how you can help other people?

14:19:43 And so they don’t have those wtf moments or like, what was that switch?

14:19:45 No, I it wasn’t. It wasn’t like that right away at first.

14:19:50 Okay.

14:19:50 I was really fragile. I was healing from the pre Eclampsia and help syndrome, and I was extremely fragile, physically and mentally.

14:20:02 I was also kind of upset and sad that I didn’t have so many firsts with my daughter that most people get to have, and it was probably around.

14:20:17 Maybe the 7 or 8 month mark that I realized how lucky and fortunate our story is because I’ve watched her grow and develop and learn skills.

14:20:33 And I did that while picking her team of specialists, and I also knew at the time that while that was extremely overwhelming, that not everyone could do it, and that made me and Jenna very fortunate, so I knew I wanted to help families like myself like my excuse me.

14:21:03 Right.

14:20:59 Like my family, but I didn’t know exactly what that looked like, and I also felt that I needed to take some time to fully get out of that first.

14:21:11 I’ll say, Haze of navigating life out of the nicky to know exactly how I wanted to help other families, so it wasn’t until about a little over a year ago that I created flourish.

14:21:27 I took my time figuring out how I wanted to be able to help parents, and what the best way to help parents is.

14:21:46 Right, yeah.

14:21:50 Yeah.

14:21:37 But all the while while I was while I was formulating that I was still going through my own ups and downs, and I think that’s life in general, and I tell families all the time that those that get you know a little rough start in the beginning, I feel like it.

14:22:01 Stronger. Yeah.

14:21:59 Serves them will only serve them well as they go on in life and face challenges throughout the course of their life.

14:22:06 Wow! And it, what really support system outside of medical really showed up for you, if at all.

14:22:17 I’m not really sure, except I’ll say that I have an awesome family.

14:22:22 Okay, that’s awesome.

14:22:25 Yeah.

14:22:22 I I have terrific friends, and my ob was the most.

14:22:31 It still is the most amazing man that there is. He saved our lives, he told my mom right after I gave birth, that we wouldn’t have made it through the night.

14:22:50 Right? Before right? Yeah.

14:22:45 My husband was in Europe for work, because it was 12 weeks before she was due so, and he the whole time kept telling me, stay positive everything’s gonna be great.

14:23:00 That’s awesome.

14:23:02 Yeah.

14:23:00 Give yourself some slack. Don’t worry that you’re not meeting this milestone.

14:23:11 What a doctor! That’s awesome! How?

14:23:08 Doing that he was a wealth of support to me. Oh, yes, I to to this day. Every time I see him I cry.

14:23:17 It’s that’s amazing. And thank God for him!

14:23:21 You know it is free eclampsia is how rare is that! And what exactly is that?

14:23:25 So I had helped syndrome, which is the extreme form of Pre-acclampsia preclampsia is is more common than you think.

14:23:34 Okay.

14:23:41 Few people, yeah.

14:23:36 It is high blood pressure. So when you’re putting right, you’re heart is beating for 2 people, and you’re feeding another person.

14:23:46 So your body, your body, and your organs are doing that much more work for rather than just for yourself.

14:23:58 Okay.

14:23:53 And then, and especially in the last trimester. That’s where people are pro to free a Clancy of them, because that’s when the baby is growing the most.

14:24:02 Right, you’re accommodating that right?

14:24:05 Okay.

14:24:02 And you’re blood vessels. Yes, yes, and what I had was so my blood pressure was around 1, 90, over 1 50, which is near stroke, level.

14:24:16 Wow!

14:24:27 All your vitamins. Wow!

14:24:17 But I also had help. Syndrome, which is my liver, was shutting down my kidneys were shutting down my hemoglobin, my platelets were at an the yes, yes, they were giving me platelets as they were taking her they didn’t

14:24:38 Wow!

14:24:42 Right.

14:24:46 Hmm!

14:24:36 know if I’d have to have a hysterectomy fortunately I did not have one because they didn’t know if my blood would even clot, so I would then put on medicine magnesium a magnesium drip for days and hallucinating from

14:24:53 that so I didn’t get to meet my daughter for a few days, so I had.

14:24:59 I was just gonna say like 3 or 4 days, right that you were able to a meter.

14:25:01 Yes.

14:25:03 Wow!

14:25:08 Right.

14:25:03 And quite frankly, I don’t think I asked for her, but most moms in my situation don’t.

14:25:14 Okay.

14:25:13 You’re I was like. I said I was hallucinating.

14:25:24 Wow!

14:25:27 Right.

14:25:16 I was going through so many things on my own that I had all to do, just to get myself better or somewhat better, before being able to see her or ask for her.

14:25:34 We always come through the other side stronger. That had been a freaking nightmare.

14:25:37 You know it just a a hallucinating dream, in a sense, because you’re coming in and out of consciousness.

14:25:43 You know you had a baby. You’re in your peripheral.

14:25:46 You’re linking okay, like they’re in good hands.

14:25:48 I’m in a great hospital, great doctor but at the same time that just had a bit scared.

14:25:53 Let me ask you some of are you like making up for first, that you never had with Jenna?

14:25:59 You know what I’m saying like? Is it like extra stuff?

14:26:04 The not like spoiler. I’m not saying that, but they’s a lot of first that you didn’t.

14:26:10 Yes.

14:26:09 We’re not able to have with her. Do you find yourself like making up for stuff?

14:26:11 In a sense.

14:26:15 Okay.

14:26:12 I don’t know if it’s necessarily making up for anything I will say that this whole experience has taught me to appreciate life in such a different way.

14:26:23 So every little, everything that she does. I’m always cheering her on so as my husband.

14:26:39 Right? That’s awesome.

14:26:43 Oh!

14:26:30 We’re clapping her for her. We say, Yay, Jenna, go Jenna, we’re so excited for her, and she has taken that on in her personality as well and it’s really cute to watch her to her friends on or celebrate her friends, or say good job mommy you did

14:26:46 Wow!

14:26:49 What?

14:26:48 that really? Well, so I don’t know necessarily if it’s making up for it, it’s just appreciating every little step cause in in the aggregate.

14:27:00 Wow!

14:27:01 Those are big steps.

14:27:02 That it’s you. It’s like everything is creating great memories, you know, with.

14:27:09 Because you went through a nightmare. Sorry, I mean, that’s just how it is.

14:27:13 I mean, you went through a nightmare. So do people like when people hear about you, they how does the whole process work?

14:27:20 Because you’re kind of a you’re kind of an advocate.

14:27:23 You’re kind of a consultant. You like a coach, salt, and advocate right like.

14:27:28 Tell me how the process works when people reach out to you.

14:27:30 Well, right now, it’s basically just through referral that someone knows someone that has had a premium baby.

14:27:37 Okay.

14:27:39 And certainly I would always welcome that my goal is to be affiliated with some nonprofits, and also to be affiliated with some hospitals.

14:28:15 Hmm, yeah.

14:27:52 And one day, especially where the mental health component comes in which over 80% of both moms and as experienced some type of mental health issue after having had a child in the Nicu, my goal one day, which is very lofty, is to have that covered by health insurance parents right now are kind of

14:28:20 left to their own devices, and to figure out their own way of getting that support, because hospitals are not equipped to do it.

14:28:38 Hmm!

14:28:44 Right.

14:28:30 The doctors and nurses who are the most angelic and sweetest and amazing people in the whole world, our their job is to take care of the baby, and there are plenty of babies in each hospital in the Nicu.

14:28:51 Sure!

14:29:00 Right, right.

14:28:49 So their time is limited, and the social workers aren’t necessarily a quick to deal with such perinatal mental health situations, either.

14:29:03 So my goal is.

14:29:03 Oh, my! Gosh! She’s such an opening here with a mental hygiene! Huge!

14:29:09 I do a lot with the Va. You know, because I suffer from Ptsd.

14:29:12 Bad united, 6 tours and and whatnot, and luckily you know my dad, it was Vietnam vet, you know, and I was Iraq and he just like you guys, helped dude.

14:29:22 You know, cause they wasn’t here for him. Now it’s here for vets to an extent, but that’s just that.

14:29:26 You would think that hospitals would reach out to you and say, Listen, you know we have this.

14:29:30 We wanna set up a program where people are going through this. Can you?

14:29:34 You know, and advocate it, and you hear that it.

14:29:36 Quite frankly. It’s it’s the opposite. It’s at.

14:29:38 Yeah, yeah.

14:29:42 It’s very hard to pierce that wall through the hospital.

14:29:44 Right, right, hmm!

14:29:46 Just red tape, you know, a lot of times they’ll say hipaa, and it has nothing to do with hipaa.

14:29:51 Nothing. Right? Yeah.

14:29:53 But you know, it’s just something else infiltrating their system, and I try and explain.

14:30:02 Right, right.

14:30:15 Hmm!

14:29:59 I knowm not here to take anyone’s job. I’m here to offer support to people who desperately need it, and you know the truth is, aside from them not being stabbed, they also need to be able to bill it to someone because the hospitals aren’t necessarily when have wind falls of money

14:30:20 Right.

14:30:20 they’re not banks, even though all their fees for things are incredibly high.

14:30:25 Right.

14:30:28 Right.

14:30:26 It’s the it’s the insurance companies. So in order to, I think is, I do more research in order to get into the hospital per se, to have it something that’s recommended or suggested even is to try and pierce through that mental health component of whether it’s the affordable care

14:30:49 act or something inside the injection system, where it could be something that is, quote unquote, Billable.

14:30:58 Right. And you think that the hipaa is kind of your off from the Hippocratic or whatever they make to make sure that they’re providing the best service possible for all parties involved that’s that’s that then we’re gonna push for you if anybody out there they can help

14:31:15 with this a squad out there, please please reach out to me, and I will definitely put you in touch, you know, with my good friend Jodie here.

14:31:21 Thank you.

14:31:22 So sure. Jody, let me ask you something. I wanna talk a little bit about you as well.

14:31:27 Okay. And have you seen the movie back to the future? Right?

14:31:32 Of course, all 3!

14:31:33 Right, right, right, so, if you were to get in that glory with Marty Mcfly we should do it a lot right now. We’re spearheading.

14:31:42 Right.

14:31:42 We’re in the gestation part of your company but if you could get that, Delorey with Marty Mcfly and go back to, we’ll say the double dues the 22 year old, Jody, with the 4 letter last words, last name what knowledge nuggets might you drop on her about life

14:31:56 that’s so much to change anything because you lived a miracle.

14:31:59 Okay. But maybe to shorten a learning curve and level up through life.

14:32:02 I would say, don’t sweat the small stuff, and that have a thicker skin.

14:32:24 Sure!

14:32:10 I think that’s really important as women and as and also, I’ll say, you know, as someone who had a traumatic birth, my skin is was kind of thin, and you have to be able to understand that people are always going to comments.

14:32:32 Thank you.

14:32:31 People are always going to say something, and to try and not let it affect me in the way that it has.

14:32:40 My cash. Please.

14:32:40 So let me share a quick story. It was generous. Just was about 5 months old, and I was strolling her on the street with our baby nurse.

14:32:50 And a woman came up to us around the street corner and said, Oh, what a beautiful baby!

14:32:55 How old is she? 5 months, 5 months, are you sure? Yes, I’m sure.

14:33:02 Wow!

14:33:03 Well, are you feeding her because she’s so tiny?

14:33:22 Right.

14:33:06 Of course I’m feeding her like literally, and my baby nurse literally took me, took me by the back, put her hand around my back, strolled the stroller, and said, Ma’am, she is as older she is supposed to be, and we walked in a different direction, than where we were going and it took every

14:33:25 Right.

14:33:25 answer of strength. I had not to cry.

14:33:28 I’m not laughing at you, cause I get that a lot.

14:33:31 And I feel, yeah, I feel, you know. Go ahead.

14:33:36 Right.

14:33:32 I. It’s a it took every ends not to cry, I mean, that’s where I said I was fragile.

14:33:39 Right.

14:33:41 Right. It’s gotta be tough.

14:33:47 Yeah, right?

14:33:39 I was still healing from what had just happened, and this I let this woman, who I didn’t even know, affect me so much, and our baby nurse was just like you don’t know anyone in explanation but yourself.

14:33:56 You know, Jenna, your husband, your family. That’s it.

14:34:00 That’s it. I love that advice from her because I made 2 years resolutions every year right since 2,009 and one is to make someone smile every single day right?

14:34:12 2, unless I’ve hurt you. Disrespect to you or stole from you. I give 0.

14:34:16 You know what’s what you think about you can say whatever you want, and I’m just gonna shake your hand in it’s hard, because, you can say whatever you want. And I’m just gonna shake your hand.

14:34:24 And it’s hard, because, you know, I’m 6.

14:34:24 One at 2, 2, 60. I’m pretty well put together.

14:34:25 Big dude, you know, so people will say stuff, and I just laugh, and I get more respect from that.

14:34:30 Everybody took a while, you know. You come around. You’re like Bro.

14:34:31 Right.

14:34:34 You know a game on. But let me ask something.

14:34:37 Is, how does Jody want her? Dash remembers that little line in between your incarnation date and your expiration date?

14:34:44 Hopefully, it’s years down the line but your life, date and death date.

14:34:46 How does Joe? Do you want that dash? Memory?

14:34:49 I think I just wanna be remembered as a really good person who helped a lot of people on their journey to make it less difficult.

14:35:01 Wow! That’s it in a nutshell, right?

14:35:07 It’s like, you’re literally what you’re starting right now.

14:35:09 You’re planting trees that you’re never gonna sit in the shade of you know what I’m saying.

14:35:14 Yeah.

14:35:13 You’re gonna grow this big with help from the squad out there.

14:35:17 You’re hearing me, Spot, and also my resources, that I have as well.

14:35:20 Whatever I can do to help. You know, you’re gonna have people like that.

14:35:21 Thank you.

14:35:23 And we’re gonna get you on every single podcast off of the the Podcasters that are not gonna say, my level because they’re a lot higher than I am.

14:35:32 But they were, gonna get you, you know your voice heard. So, Jody, what do you think people misunderstand the most about you?

14:35:40 I think people most misunderstand when they tell me that I’m just a mom who has the story to tell I think that’s extremely disrespectful, and I have been told that on many occasion I have an experience that is experienced by over.

14:36:00 Let’s wait for that number. Yeah.

14:35:58 360,000 baby’s parents every year, and that’s not just me being a mom.

14:36:07 Right.

14:36:08 There are so many people that need support and need help. And you’re gonna underestimating the fact that this woman that’s before you has a voice, and she’s going to use it to knock down the walls.

14:36:23 Wow, yeah, that’s amazing. And they just have to deal with it.

14:36:28 Because what you’re doing is you’re making the world a better place by knocking down those walls versus trying to stir the pot on something.

14:36:34 There’s no pot to be started. These people need freaking help.

14:36:37 Yeah.

14:36:37 It’s Ptsd. I’m sorry it is I mean, it could be postpartum Ptsd.

14:36:43 I don’t care. What is it? Still, you know, a very traumatic thing that you go through, and I wish it on absolutely nobody.

14:36:53 Yeah.

14:36:48 But the thing is, there’s no way you can correct me if I’m wrong, that this will ever be cured, because, you know, you’re gonna have some people that might be out of shape having children and it becomes premier.

14:37:00 Or you. That’s just like what the hack, you know.

14:37:04 Right.

14:37:02 I have this help, you know thing going on. You didn’t really even know.

14:37:06 Until the time. So it’s it’s never gonna be field, you know.

14:37:10 There’s not like a pill you can take for it.

14:37:13 It’s gonna come from all angles, and I love that.

14:37:15 You’re an advocate for it.

14:37:14 No, and it’s the number of prey. Babies is only growing in the United States every year, and we have the most prey.

14:37:19 Right, right.

14:37:23 Babies born of any first world country in the world.

14:37:26 Are you serious? Wow, wow, you think a lot of that.

14:37:32 Any of it like is can be matched up with our health crisis.

14:37:37 You know.

14:37:37 You know what I’m saying? It’s like the 360,000 is a lot.

14:37:42 I mean, we’re also the fattest country in the world, right?

14:37:43 Right.

14:37:44 And that this was the shows about it’s leveling up.

14:37:47 Okay, do you think that if people maybe were more health conscious, they would help a little bit towards the 360,000 like, you’re an anomaly.

14:37:54 Alright!

14:37:55 You’re fantastic, beautiful, great shape, right? Anomaly.

14:37:59 But the other people, would it maybe lower that number if maybe people leveled up and were help?

14:38:04 More healthcare.

14:38:04 I would say I would say yes, but I would also say to you know, if you’re not feeling well about certain things, whether you’re pregnant or not, go to the doctor right?

14:38:13 Okay.

14:38:15 I think, as a society, since health insurance or co-payments, things like that are so expensive, there, there’s a large barrier to entry when it comes to getting help for yourself.

14:38:25 Yeah, right?

14:38:37 Thank you. Man, that’s that is dude.

14:38:26 So I think that if people were more apt to go to the doctor for something that maybe that could help with preventative.

14:38:40 That is perfect. That’s perfectly said, because if we set it up to where made it affordable for people to see doctor for preventing, you know that cause I.

14:38:51 Yeah.

14:38:48 Or if if someone knew they were high risk, I mean I checked one box for being high risk.

14:38:56 Right, right, right.

14:38:56 That’s my age, other than that. Everything else you know.

14:39:01 So at. But anyone over 35 is considered high risk.

14:39:04 So that’s really like I, that’s a large part of the population.

14:39:09 Gotcha!

14:39:09 But i my obe, was treating me the whole time as if I was high risk.

14:39:14 Right.

14:39:15 I was taking baby aspirin. I was doing everything that I was supposed to be doing, so to some extent.

14:39:19 Hmm!

14:39:21 It’s not preventable. The only thing I can say is that especially if you’re if you’re pregnant and you’re feeling just different.

14:39:35 Right.

14:39:31 I for the last 4 days my pregnancy didn’t realize cause it’s I’m the first time, Mom, I didn’t realize that the things that I was feeling we’re warning signs.

14:39:42 Right? Okay.

14:39:43 So I would just say to moms out there, or even husbands to be, you know, dads to be that if your significant other, or if the woman, if it’s you, if you aren’t feeling well, or you notice all of a sudden a mark change while you’re pregnant go to

14:40:03 the doctor.

14:40:03 Go to Doctor Man. Absolutely get out there and get sick. That professional help.

14:40:09 So does anything keep you up at night?

14:40:13 Okay.

14:40:12 Of course I mean well, I you know there’s that saying sleep like a baby when I look at my daughter sleeping.

14:40:20 It’s amazing. Just like that carefree. There’s no worry on her face.

14:40:25 I love it. I worry for her, of course, generally.

14:40:28 Sure!

14:40:30 What the world is going to look like when she grows up, and that’s a whole other story for another day.

14:40:35 Right, right, right.

14:40:50 Hmm!

14:40:38 But I also worry about for her developmentally, and I think that’s also a big impetus behind flourish about all those services and being being able to provide mental health services for parents, because people can be mean.

14:40:53 Sure!

14:41:01 Absolutely.

14:40:52 And if you are different, or if your child is different, people saying that nice things, and you know I would love to.

14:41:05 I worry about her? Will she notice that? Maybe she’s a little bit behind some of her friends?

14:41:11 So I wanna try and set her up for success. I worry about setting her up for success.

14:41:18 And so everything I do is so that she is successful, putting her in the situations to help get her, that there!

14:41:27 Love it. There’s such a big heart that you have, you know.

14:41:30 So it what would, what would Jodi’s definition of a life will live, be?

14:41:40 Okay.

14:41:37 Just being happy and healthy without that. What do you have?

14:41:44 Right. Tell me 3 things outside of family water, food, air, like 3 things.

14:41:51 You could not live without.

14:41:56 Love it. Okay.

14:41:53 I couldn’t live without exercising. I think that’s a great it’s a lifestyle.

14:42:01 Thank you.

14:42:01 I don’t think that it’s when people say that it’s going to be.

14:42:04 Oh, and New Year’s resolution. It’s not.

14:42:06 Oh, man, right? Yeah.

14:42:07 I think it’s a I think it’s a lifestyle.

14:42:10 So there’s that, I’ll say my friends outside support than my regular support system.

14:42:15 You, right? Yeah, yeah.

14:42:23 Love it.

14:42:18 Yes, find your own community, I think it’s great to have those sounding boards out there, and I love also.

14:42:26 I couldn’t live with going to the beach, and just the fresh air, the or the salt air, feeling that on my face.

14:42:33 Looking at devotion. I love it, I love it.

14:42:36 So those are my 3 things.

14:42:38 That’s beautiful, it’s I always my third. I’m a chicken wing snob, you know.

14:42:43 It’s kind of like my third thing, I have to have chicken wings.

14:42:46 But hey? Squat? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Anthony’s for sure.

14:42:45 Do you go down to Anthony’s?

14:42:51 I know.

14:42:50 Absolutely. They’re really good. And I don’t tell too many people about them, so cause they’re so damn expensive and hard to get right.

14:42:56 Now, you know, so I can keep that as a secret, so don’t listen to what she just said, spot, if you’re out in here.

14:43:03 But you know, Squad, we’re gonna take my good friend Jodie here through our lovely up, legging round just as soon as we get back from thinking our sponsors and affiliates.

14:43:11 Time to shine today. Podcast versus squad. We are back in jody because of the proximity of where your family lives.

14:43:18 Yes.

14:43:27 That would be awesome. Thank you.

14:43:17 You and I will definitely hook up one day even for a couple of coffee in downtown gardens, or something, you know, in chat, and see where we can strategize on you. Get you on a couple of radio stations down here to get your word out as well but absolutely but you will talk

14:43:30 about some of these questions. We might start 1520 min at each one of them.

14:43:37 Okay.

14:43:35 But this one, this leveling uplight me round. You got 5 s with absolutely 0 explanations, and they can all be answered that way.

14:43:42 Okay, okay. I’m ready.

14:43:42 Alright, you ready to level up. Here we go, Jordi!

14:43:46 What is the best leveling up advice you’ve ever received.

14:43:51 Just to cut yourself some slack.

14:43:53 Love it sure, whatever your personal habits, that contributes to your success.

14:43:58 Meditating every day, taking time for myself.

14:44:02 Love this. So you see me kind of walking in to wherever we’re meeting, or you see me just kind of walking around.

14:44:10 I might be in my doldrums a little bit.

14:44:12 Not like Fergie. Something’s wrong with him a bit.

14:44:13 What book might you hand me to level me up?

14:44:16 I don’t know specifically what book and it doesn’t have to be a self-help book.

14:44:22 I would tell you to go and read anything that would fill your cup, or let your mind escape.

14:44:26 It’s beautiful. That’s a great answer. No one’s ever said.

14:44:29 Thank you for saying it. What’s your most commonly used Emoji when you text, if any.

14:44:38 Okay.

14:44:34 Either, though regular smile cause I also happen to smile a lot, or the kissy one.

14:44:40 Beautiful nicknames growing Up.

14:44:47 Was Yup!

14:44:44 Tiktok, because my last name is made a name was talk or a little tick, because I have an older brother.

14:44:51 Hmm! Love it, love it! It’s beautiful, it tell me some like a hidden talent or superpower, that nobody knows about.

14:45:03 People probably don’t know that I used to play really competitive tennis, and that I was ranked when I was younger.

14:45:10 Got free clothes and free rackets, and Nick ballet.

14:45:12 Beautiful!

14:45:17 Wow!

14:45:14 Terry came to my house, wanted me to live there, but I think that competitive spirit even serves me well today.

14:45:23 Beautiful just checkers are monopoly.

14:45:27 Monopoly.

14:45:29 Hmm!

14:45:28 Awesome. We could definitely be friends. What’s the headline for your life?

14:45:32 Quickly, on, that!

14:45:35 A happy woman. That made a difference.

14:45:37 Beautiful. Go to ice cream, flavor.

14:45:44 Chocolate, chip.

14:45:42 There’s a sandwich. Name the little tick build that sandwich for me.

14:45:47 I’m gonna take a page out of Zengerman’s and make it like the Georgia Reuben.

14:45:51 My! You go. Singer means Ann Arbor baby. I love it.

14:45:56 Very favorite. I think you might know the answer to this one.

14:45:59 But favorite charity, and our organization like to give your time and or money to.

14:46:04 Please.

14:46:03 There’s a couple of them, but I’ll say hand so hands to hold is the first one that comes to mind.

14:46:06 Okay, beautiful. And last question, you can elaborate on this one.

14:46:15 Eighties.

14:46:12 But what’s the best decade in music? 60 seventies, eighties or 9, my girl?

14:46:18 There you go! I love it. It’s like so, James Formation.

14:46:23 It’s funny, like, the today Goye, like songs that you hear like Pit Bull, like his song, has the hook from.

14:46:34 Yes.

14:46:29 Aaha’s take on me like you hear the songs they have, the hooks from our songs from that day, you know, and like Wrap, you know, was kind of not invented, but really got big run. Dmc. BC.

14:46:41 BC voice. And you have the invasions from you, too. And Duran Duran and men at work.

14:46:47 Yeah, it’s just the best decade to meet me.

14:46:46 I don’t think bands today. I necessarily have to have the skill set the way those bands did right, because there’s so much electronics.

14:46:53 No way. Are you 100%? Right? Yes, yeah. Yeah.

14:47:04 Right.

14:46:58 That’s that’s important in that that those bands had not saying that other people today don’t have talent. But those bands had to rely on real playing instrument talent.

14:47:09 Right, right absolutely. And also like lyric writing from the seventies to me.

14:47:16 That’s really kind of the decade of you can understand the lyrics and hear them and the eighties just kind of added music to with the instruments and hear them.

14:47:24 And the eighties just kind of added music to, with the instruments of people actually playing them, which you know.

14:47:24 I I will say I think Eminem is a is a good lyricist, only in so far few actually listen to his music.

14:47:33 I don’t know anything that’s current. But from a while ago, if you listen to the lyrics they make a lot of sense.

14:47:41 Absolutely, absolutely.

14:47:41 It’s just that he says it’s so quickly and in a way you can’t always understand it.

14:47:45 Right, right.

14:47:48 But yes, I think lyricist, and like poetry, all that, all that kind of stuff.

14:47:53 I love that you brought our home me up, you know, with that, and you know, like used to come into, Wouldbridge Tavern, used to bounce there in downtown Detroit, back in the day. He used to come in.

14:48:06 We’re the same age, you know. He’s come in and just get up and like open mic night.

14:48:10 Oh, wow!

14:48:09 So I knew him that, and like Kid Rock, he’s come in there bare, naked ladies used to come over the Ban Bayern.

14:48:15 They could come over from Canada and play there and stuff like that.

14:48:22 Oh, really!

14:48:18 And I got you know them a little bit, and he was in Jupiter, Florida with Kid Rock cause Kid Rock lives here right and they are they in there?

14:48:26 And I knew Kid, because I worked a little security for him.

14:48:27 So it was kind of cool to like, see those guys hanging out to see and know that they’re, you know, like you’re right, Eminem wrote from you.

14:48:34 Still rights, and they make sense, and he’s one of the lyricist that can find a rhyme for Orange, you know.

14:48:39 Yeah.

14:48:41 Right. So tell me how we can find you.

14:48:43 People can find me on line@www.flourish.com f l R.

14:48:50 Okay.

14:48:50 I, S. H. All social media at flourish, and they can email me at Hello, at Florida, F.

14:49:00 L r i s h.com.

14:49:00 Love it, I love it, and all of that will be in the show notes and give me one last solid cause. We wouldn’t a little longer squad.

14:49:10 I know you’re staying with me because the story was absolutely fantastic and got me glued in. But if you can leave us with one last knowledge, you know, we can take with us, internalize and take action.

14:49:24 Love it.

14:49:19 That everyone’s growth and development is different, regardless of how you were born, or your education, or anything in life.

14:49:31 Everyone’s growth and trajectory is different, and that there is nothing wrong with that.

14:49:37 I love love events, squad, we just had a heart string, tugging, fun.

14:49:45 Funny, it. Just. It’s just a beautiful conversation, my good friend Jodi here, and make sure that you look in the show notes for how flourish is spelled, because I’m gonna have a link to her website there if there’s anybody out here that can really support the cause on this get with me and

14:50:01 I’m gonna reach out to my Palm Beach connections as well so we’re gonna try to see what we can have here.

14:50:06 But you know, Jodi really has a heart to support, and educate Premie families. You know.

14:50:10 She felt alone, scared, confused, unsupported.

14:50:13 During and after her situation. She’s just kind of sent home like kind of, I guess, like the troops are kind of sent home.

14:50:20 So here’s life. Dude! Go do it, you know she’s going.

14:50:23 She is setting up a one stop shop for parents to have resources, and how to advocate for themselves, because people don’t know how to do something.

14:50:32 They stick their head head in the sand, they pop their head out.

14:50:34 Guess what the same shit still going on. He’s getting it set up as an advocate to be able to reach out to governments, medical whatever to really get this known is it’s a Ptsd okay, so you can coach them in her own little way.

14:50:47 And let them know that they’re not alone. But we need more help out there.

14:50:50 People, you know that you have, like, we’ve, you know, celebrate and appreciate them in their own way.

14:50:58 They cheer them on in in passion of what I love to hear, that Jody said, is that Jenna actually cheers other people on because she’s getting that from her parents.

14:51:08 I love that. You know Jodi is a goal to be affiliated with, nonprofits, hospitals.

14:51:14 Anybody out there that can move that tachometer, you know, towards success for getting these people this 360,000 premiums warn the United States people. That’s way.

14:51:23 Too many. You know the mental hygiene is gotta be set out there for the parents as well to learn how to deal with that.

14:51:29 She reminds us not to sweat the small stuff to grow, that thick skin, to disregard the negative.

14:51:36 You know she will be remembered as a really good person.

14:51:39 I said before, but she’s plant trees. She’s probably never going to sit in the shift, because she’s going to see it through her. You know.

14:51:46 Time on earth ends, but it will be picked up, the baton be taken I can see Jenna even, maybe grab that baton, you know, time on Earth ends, but it’ll be picked up. The baton be taken I could see jenna even maybe grab that Petan and helping us a little bit as well, and she was will be remembered is the voice that knocked down.

14:52:03 The walls of adversity. Towards this, the premium and the Nico new situation. She reminds you to put yourself some sleep, and that, lastly, everybody’s growth is different, and they develop differently.

14:52:12 We must respect people love each other’s no problem in hugging people, you know.

14:52:15 It’s just telling them it’s gonna be okay. You’re okay.

14:52:18 You’re perfect, you might have stuff to work on, but we all freaking, do!

14:52:21 We’re never gonna reach perfection people. But if we strive for perfection we’ll hit greatness and that is a fun life with great memories that’s what my good friend Jody has.

14:52:30 She levels up her house, she loves up her wealth, she has a huge heart.

14:52:33 She’s beautiful, humble, hungry, so bless you earned your varsity letter here.

14:52:38 Thank you.

14:52:38 Time to shine today. Thank you so much for coming on and absolutely love your guys.

14:52:46 Without a doubt, without a doubt. We’ll chat soon.

14:52:40 Thank you so much for having me. I really appreciate it, and I do hope to meet you in person when I’m down in Florida next.

14:53:44 Okay.

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