411- 🛠️Rising from Rock Bottom: Transforming Pain into Purpose, An Inspiring Journey to 🥋Black Belt Excellence TTST Interview with Life Coach and BJJ Black Belt Carlos Bergante

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Carlos is 46 years young, had a rough upbringing, was abused mentally and physically by my father, and has been in and out of incarnation from late teens to early 20s. Carlos had to pull himself out of rock bottom several times, had to overcome many addictions and limiting beliefs in his life. In that journey he learned that he loves serving others and became a mindset, men’s and life coach. Carlos moved to Brazil to pursue his passion of Brazilian Jui Jitsu where he has reached the level of 2 stripe Black Belt.

 “I want to be a person who leaves a legacy of inspiration and overcoming”
– Carlos Bergante  

Knowledge Nuggets and Take-Aways

  1. Carlos believes in holding on tight to the vision that ‘moves you’
  2. His life experiences has molded Carlos into the highly sought after coach the he currently is
  3. A great coach according to Carlos is one that provides a safe space for his clients and listens with all his senses
  4. Find people you want to emulate and surround yourself with them and others like them
  5. Carlos passion is to help as many people as possible to help them Level 🆙 and leave a legacy of inspiration
  6. Using your experience to help others is paramount to a life well lived 
  7. Consistently do things daily that serve you, while inspiring others
  8. Failure is the major ingredient to success
  9. A life well lived is one where life happens THROUGH you, not to you, living life present and intentionally. 
  10. Everything you want externally begins internally

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Speech Transcript


L. Scott Ferguson: [00:00:00] Time To Shine Today podcast, varsity squad. This is Scott Ferguson. And thank you so much for tuning in for an episode that I am super blessed and stoked to bring you a good friend of mine, Brazilian jujitsu, black belt. resides down in the kind of black belt haven down in Brazil. And my good friend, Carlos Bergante, also a fellow Filipino.

We had just a super fun conversations, backstories, absolutely amazing, really overcoming the odds, moving forward and passing it on and bringing, sending that elevator down to help others level up. , he is again, He spoke a very dark background and again, he was he moved me with it But just to hear his persistence and consistency to really help himself go to the next level Find his version of happiness.

It was just above reproach and how he helps others do it as well so if you don’t mind smash the like button or Actually share this with somebody that is in need of a really [00:01:00] leveled up conversation because he does not Hold back. That’s all I can say. So without further ado, break out your notebook, sit back and relax because here comes my really good friend and coach, Carlos Burgante.

Let’s up.

Time to shine today. Podcast Varsity Squad. This is Scott Ferguson, and I am super stoked because I got my guy here Carlos Burgante. He’s a Brazilian Jiu Jitsu black belt and I know I’ve been drowned on the mats, and it kind of sucks, and my guy here, Carlos, would probably drown me in minutes. And someone that I immensely respect, he’s a coach, he’s 46 years old, I know he doesn’t look like it, so we’re a couple generation Xers, me 51 and him 46.

Here, rocking the mic. He had a really rough upbringing, abused mentally and physically by his father, has been in and out of incarceration from his late teens to his early 20s. He’s had to pull himself out of rock bottom several times, had to overcome many addictions and limiting beliefs in his life, in his journey, and [00:02:00] He’s learned to love serving others and become a, which led him to become a mindset and men’s life coach.

He moved to Brazil, which is like the hotbed of BJJ, hence Brazilian jujitsu to pursue his passion. He’s a two stripe Brazilian jujitsu black belt. So again, he’s, he’s pretty much a bad ass and Carlos, thank you so much for coming on. Please introduce yourself. The time to shine today, podcast, varsity squad, but first what’s your favorite color?

Why?

Carlos Bergante: Geez. I would say the mixture between black and red.

L. Scott Ferguson: Okay. I like it. It’s like Johnny Walker Scotch Man. . I loved it, bro. So I’ve gotta get to the roots, man. I, I heard, yeah. , , troubled youth incarceration off mic, , you, you, you shared a lot about your awesome history with the, how your family origins came, but then we kind of moved into, this is probably a little bit more of a darker area, like to kind of plant the seed and see how you kind of work through this and then work your way out and use those, , what’s your experiences to help

Carlos Bergante: others level up.

[00:03:00] Sure. I’m sorry. What was the question?

L. Scott Ferguson: The question is I want the roots brother on the story,

Carlos Bergante: my guy. Yeah. Well first of all, thank you for that. That awesome intro. You covered a lot there. And so the roots to my story, right? The roots of my story that geez, I don’t know where, where do I start?

, I’m originally from Virginia, the Virginia beach area. So my I’ll go to where everything, just the meat and potatoes. So my father, yeah. My father , he, he, he wasn’t, he wasn’t the best father figure growing up, , he learned what he learned from his father, but he was like, like the interest that he was very physically and mentally abusive to myself, my siblings and my, my mother and eventually my mom.

And him split apart when I was in my early teens, right? And when they split apart, I did not have any male role model there. And also the male role that I [00:04:00] did have was my father. Naturally, that’s this path I started to take. I started to get heavy into drugs and alcohol at a very young age, and I started to step into the same footsteps as my father.

With drugs and alcohol came , theft, stealing, bullying, these things throughout my My team, early teens and into my early adulthood. Right. And so, yeah that, that’s where all the trouble and all, and basic, I was just digging a hole for myself. This analogy of just digging a hole for myself.

So, um, when I was, I put it this way by the time I was, before I was even 21, I had three DUIs already. Oh, okay. Yeah. And so I was with that, I had other charges. So I was looking at doing a really long length of time because the three strike rule, uh, , driving a car, getting a hit and runs and just [00:05:00] theft and all these things.

So I was looking at doing a grip of time during this age, before I was even 21. And, , I just got tired of the life that I was living and this analogy of me growing up and being just like my father. Right. So this last stench in jail, I decided, what, it’s, it’s time for me to really make some kind of change in life.

Right. I ended up getting my GED general education diploma while I was incarcerated. I went through a really strict drug and alcohol addiction therapy program while I was incarcerated. This was all part of the deal because I was so young. At the time, this was all part of the deal to reduce my sentence so that I can get out, right?

And not serve just the wrong length of time. Obviously, I was under some kind of probation there after I got out to make sure I was a good citizen. And so I completed all of this. And this, this was kind of like the, the changing point, , getting my education, getting rid of the addictions, the drug and alcohol and the vices.

And obviously there [00:06:00] were some ups and downs after that, , but this was like the first Shovel of dirt into this big hole that I was, that I had dug for myself in the past. Right. And with that being said, , not having this male role model and, and not having my father, my life and my teens and things like that, , I got into one of my first relationships, one of my first relationships, which Was with a college exchange student and then 9, 11 happened.

So she could not renew her visa. So she got sent back to the Philippines. We were doing, we were doing the long distance relationship for a while. And I just like, I can’t do this, , long. So I decided to get rid of everything in the United States, sell everything and basically go there and be with her and start a life with her.

Right. And so I did that and at the time call centers were booming there in the Philippines, right? So I took everything and invested in trying to open up a call center there and married her. Come to find [00:07:00] out that , she was, she was, she was not, she wasn’t honest with me. She was cheating on me at the time, right?

Right. And and that was another low point in my life. Because. , I, I, I left everything that I knew to be there with her. I, I also my, I invested everything into my business, which because of my relationship and also because I wasn’t taking care of my health, I stopped training jujitsu I was overweight and fat was drinking again and had my drug addiction problem there in the Philippines.

And I was smoking at the same time. And I think I was like. 50, 60 pounds overweight at the time. So it wasn’t healthy was my business was failing and my relationship was failing. So this was a very low point, another low point in my life, had a lot of suicidal thoughts and things like that. And so what got me out of that one was um, A friend of mine handed me this Tony Robbins CD when CDs were the thing at the time, right, kind of are now, [00:08:00] but and he, and it was, it was, it was one of my formal introductions to basically personal development was.

Tony or Anthony Robbins CD and basically was a visualization exercise on here, right? And, and, and I’ll never forget it because I was sitting at a coffee shop there and he knew this particular friend of mine knew how down I was and everything that I went through. He’s like, man, listen to this man, right?

Just do the exercises on this. And at the time I had 500 bucks in my bank account, right? And I was contemplating on calling my mother up and saying, Hey, I’m going to need help with a plane ticket to fly back to the United States. I’m going to need my old room back. So that, , I can start my life all over again because my marriage failed and all of this.

And he was like, man, just listen to the CD. So I was there like contemplating. I listened to it and I did the exercises. And one of the exercises was a visualization exercise of where to, of where you just write down things that you want in your life, even if they are not visibly They’re not visible [00:09:00] right now, even if you feel like you cannot accomplish these things.

So I wrote down like a notebook, like two pages. It must’ve been like 50 or 60 things of things that I wanted to do right in my life. And there were things that I didn’t think I could accomplish. Like I wanted to go to Brazil, train with the graces and get my Brazilian Jiu Jitsu black belt. I wanted to to, to find a job.

And this was like 20 years ago. I wanted to find a job or a company that I could work for that would let me work remotely so I could travel more. Right. This is when working remotely wasn’t really the thing, , it was very rare. , I, I wanted to find a woman. And find love in my life and have kids and, and, and, and be a father and a husband, right?

And so those, those were some of my top things, right? That I had listed there. And at the time, man, I’m, I’m 60 pounds of weight, smoking, drinking, broke, unemployed, don’t have a business. And so. I was just, , wrote this down and I wouldn’t [00:10:00] say it happened overnight, but just getting those thoughts and those things out of my mind and creating this vision on my mind and putting it on paper that is that that’s like putting it out in the universe.

You know what I mean? It’s really coming out. And so I’m actually able to see these things, right? And so I started taking steps, steps towards these things and, and lo and behold, right? I read a Tim Ferriss book, the four hour work week, the very first series that came out and find out, I found out like, Hey, it is possible to work remotely.

It is possible to get people, , work remotely and have this life. And so I, I started applying for companies in the United States to say, Hey, , I want to utilize my skills and it, that I know to. To, to work for you remotely and must apply to hundreds and hundreds of companies. And finally, one answer say, yeah, let me give you a try.

Did the online interview and said, okay, let’s go. I like you. We’ll hire you. You can work a hundred percent remotely. Again, it was, was 20 [00:11:00] years ago. Packed my bags up, right? I had a suitcase. With some clothes and my, and my laptop and my, and my bag and just really simplified my life. And so I started traveling, I traveled all around Asia started training jujitsu again lived in Thailand for a year, and that’s where I met a jujitsu, jujitsu Brazil, a Brazilian jujitsu black belt there.

He was one of the only ones in Asia. That was there in Thailand at at pocket Muay Thai and it was very small at the time. It’s a very famous facility now Yeah, it’s very small, but he was there. His name is Tony Eduardo He was one of the first black belts to go there Okay to help train the Muay Thai fighters how to fight on the ground because at the time MMA was just blowing up, right?

And you needed to have a ground game to be able to survive, right? In MMA. So he was there teaching the Muay Thai fighters and the standup guys [00:12:00] how to how to, how to get it done. Right. Yeah. And, and so I found out like he was one of the only ones there. So, Hey, I’m working remote. Let me go there, live in Thailand for a little bit, train with this Brazilian jujitsu black belt, maybe do some standup there too.

And so I ended up moving there, living there. With while you’re working

L. Scott Ferguson: remotely too, right while

Carlos Bergante: i’m working remotely I am staying right next to the camp training every day. Yeah getting it done. Sure. Yeah Yeah, and then one day tony is like hey, man What are you doing here in Thailand? You work remotely and things like that.

He’s like, man, I’m, I’m here training. I want to train with you. You’re the only, , Brazilian jujitsu black belt here in Asia. And he’s like, man, I really noticed that you are, , you’re, you’re all into the jujitsu classes. And yeah, I was attending the MMA classes and the Muay Thai class, but I was really there in the jujitsu class.

This is where I love to be at. And, and I was like, yeah, man. And, , eventually I want to get my black belt in jujitsu. And he was like, Hey. I’m going back to Brazil next month. Why don’t you come there? [00:13:00] There’s my invite. There’s that second thing on my list. Yeah. Right. So yeah, I was like, man, let’s do that.

So he ended up going there. I stayed a couple more months and I kind of like made my way down there. , I didn’t go right away, but I knew he was, he was going back. He was there. I had a friend there now. I still traveled around Asia. I saw different places, lived there, lived in different places for a couple of months at a time, training at different facilities.

So I met a lot of friends and, , , when you, when you train with guys and you’re trying to rip each other’s heads off, you just become instant buddies, ? So I made a lot of good friends there. Made my way down through Central America and then into South America, , just training at different places, staying at months at a time in different places.

Met a lot of good guys still doing the I. T. work, right? Still doing the remote I. T. work. And then I made my way to Brazil and , trained with Tony. And I didn’t go directly where Tony was at he’s, he’s, he’s from this place called Florianopolis in a state called Santa Catarina, which is a state for [00:14:00] the South.

I wanted to go where jiu jitsu first started right where it’s famous from which is Rio de Janeiro. Right. And also I wanted to train with the Gracie’s which were over there right like, , and so I yeah I went there, I trained at Gracie Baja for a little bit, and I trained at Gracie Humaita there for a little bit too.

Yeah. But the thing is, I was there and I was supposed to stay there for a couple months, and I was living there with a buddy. The thing is like, it is not really the safest place if you, if you’re not from there and you don’t speak Portuguese, right? And I was constantly just looking over my back, , checking of, , you’re just waiting to get robbed.

You can’t go out at night and, and be walking the street and speaking English, , right away, you’re going to, you’re going to get robbed. And so I ended up, , going to other parts of Brazil. I went to Sao Paulo, trained there for a little bit. Big city wasn’t my thing. I finally made my way down.

To go visit Tony in this island. It’s an island off the southern coast of Brazil [00:15:00] called Florianopolis, right? And I came here and it was like, I don’t, I couldn’t even believe I was in Brazil. Like it’s, it’s, it’s totally different, ? But it’s an island off the southern coast of Brazil and it’s considered the Hawaii of South America.

Okay. Right. Even the football team here, the football team, the name of the football team is called Hawaii and translated into English. That means Hawaiian, right? Like it’s, it’s very beautiful. Right. And so I came here was training here, the academies here I started training at was Hylian Gracie.

Hylian Gracie is, is founded the academy here. And so it was training here. And yeah, I ended up, , getting my, my, my purple belt, my brown belt and my black belt in 2015 here in Brazil. And yeah, and , I, I met my I met my wife here in Brazil, met my wife here. And to make a long story short, I did not, still not know how to be [00:16:00] a man or a husband or a father because I didn’t have that role role model, right.

Growing up. So I found myself in this same spot I was many years ago of on the verge of being, being on divorce because I just didn’t know how to be this person.

L. Scott Ferguson: Your identity wasn’t quite set into that yet.

Carlos Bergante: I just didn’t have that father role. My, I didn’t know how to be this person, ? I mean, I didn’t get the manual, how to be a father and husband.

I don’t know if anybody got that man to me. Did

L. Scott Ferguson: Denise help you out with that?

Carlos Bergante: Well, no, no, she couldn’t. I mean, she, she, she doesn’t know how to be a man or a husband either. Right. So do a lot of internal work on myself. Right. So I joined a lot of men’s groups. I got a coach, got a therapist. And started to do a lot of internal work on myself on, on, on finding this man that I can admire finding this husband that I can admire. Right. And in this work on working on myself and working on my marriage and, and just, , being a better man and a father and a [00:17:00] husband, obviously it’s kind of like the jujitsu mats.

They see you elevate from a white belt to, to, to a black belt. And other people ask you for advice, ask you for help, right? Because you’re ahead of them. So other men and other people started to see this in me. Right. And asking me for help with their marriage or how to get them unstuck in their life, or how can they pursue their goals, , and so this is where I go into the coaching aspect of it, , so I started, , teaching the things that I learned, and a lot of my philosophy when I coach is based on jujitsu philosophy.

Cause you can relate a lot of the analogies that I use that I’m going to use here as well too is based on what I learned on the mats, because what happens on the mat can so easily be translated into life. Jiu jitsu is life. Exactly. Exactly. So with that being said, , when you don’t know what, how to do or how to become or how to get to that certain level, you find people that are at that level.

If you start up as a white belt and you want to be a black belt, you start hanging around people that are higher than you [00:18:00] start asking questions. Yeah. Yeah. And so this is exactly what happened, not saying I’m a black belt as being a husband or a father or a man, but I was at another level already. And so people that were coming in that were having the same problems that I was having started asking me for help.

And of course I helped, , and this is where. My coaching career came, , I found out like, Hey, I can, I really love this. I’m very passionate about helping people, uh, with their problems of where I was at before and helping them not have the same pain or have to, , showing them maybe another way to get through this obstacle that they’re having in their life.

Right. And so,

L. Scott Ferguson: so let me ask you, Carlos, then what, what do you feel makes a great coach?

Carlos Bergante: I feel what makes a really great coach is not the certifications. It’s not the courses. I mean, that definitely adds to it. You give you a framing. I think it’s the experience in life that you have gone through. Right. I think helping out somebody [00:19:00] that has, has gone through what you’ve went through and you’ve learned from this and using your experience of when you went through that help that person.

So I think that is very important, , and I see that in jujitsu as well, too. Like, how do you become a good black belt? Yeah. Yeah. You hang around the best black belts, , you hang around those people, , because they have already been through what you went through as a white belt, blue belt, purple belt.

No, I love about

L. Scott Ferguson: what you’re saying is that you live kind of a plus equals minus where what I mean by that is, , as a coach, , there’s people that I emulate that I really look up to, , I had the vision. I speak on stage now. Okay. So I had that vision. I, and I made that happen now.

I look at people, the plus side is, Hey, people, I want to emulate, right? People I want to get to the equal side is like me and you, Hey, we wrap, we bounce stuff off each other, and then we send the elevator down to people that want to get up to where we are. So I, all I’m hearing is you’re living that plus equals minus life.

That’s freaking fantastic. So let me ask you something then maybe during discovery [00:20:00] discussion with a client, they haven’t hired you yet. They’re coming into you. What is some of your secret sauce to help them really start to recognize that blind spot that’s holding them

Carlos Bergante: back? Well, what I like to do is when I first get on the discovery call with a client, I want to find out where they’re at right now, where they’re at right now in life.

And then if I, then I started listening down and just, , getting a list of all the things of where they’re at right now in life, all the problems, all the challenges that are specifically. Right. Then I find out. What would they like to experience instead of where they’re at right now, right? What would they like to, this is a very important question.

I had, where would you like to experience instead of all these things that’s happening to you right now, that whole list, right? And so they start telling me all the things they would like to experience in life that they would have right now in their relationship, in their professional life, in their personal life, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

[00:21:00] Right. So once I find out where they’re at right now and where they, what they would like to experience instead of what’s happening right now, then there’s kind of that vision of where they want to be. So everything that’s in the middle there.

L. Scott Ferguson: Performance gap. This, that’s the performance gap, right?

Carlos Bergante: That’s the gap, right?

L. Scott Ferguson: That’s the gap. That’s the performance gap. The gap they gotta perform within that gap to get there. I love your video that you put out about, Hey man, if you like, I’m 51. I am so fricking stoked to meet the 55-year-old Scott Ferguson, so stoked to meet him, right? And I, I love that video you put out. Say, hey, that 10 year, that guy, 10 years out, are you, who do you wanna be?

How, how do you want that person to be doing? When I go to heaven, that’s where I feel I’m going. I’m going to actually, the Scott that I was meant to be is going to show up and say, thank you for doing that. I don’t want to show up less than, and I love that you’re really leveling people up with that. So let me ask you this then, when you, maybe you’re in the discovery, you’re really finding out that performance gap and getting that plan lined up for them.

Is there any good question that you wish they would ask you, but

Carlos Bergante: never do?[00:22:00]

That’s a good question. And. I, I would, I would say if, if, if I find out this gap for them, right, I would, I would like them to ask me, ask me, how can, how can I fill this gap? How can I fill this gap? My man. Right. Love that. How can I fill the gap? Because then when they say that, that means like, Hey, I’m in it.

I want to solve this problem.

L. Scott Ferguson: They want it. They’re open. They’re coachable and everything. That’s fricking awesome. Cause sometimes I’ll sit in discovery sessions and be like, I’m not the right horse for this course. I’m not the right coach for that. What I’m saying? That’s where I’ll maybe say, Hey, Carlos, I think you’re a better fit for them because I set my ego aside because I can’t help them in that performance gap from where they are to where they want to get.

So I love that you’re, that you do that. You want them to ask you what’s in there. So let me ask you something. Have you seen the movie back to the future?

Carlos Bergante: Yes, I have the first one. It’s been a

L. Scott Ferguson: while. It’s been a minute, right? [00:23:00] It’ll be 40 years old, I think, next year. So let’s get that DeLorean with Marty McFly, man.

Let’s go back to the double deuce, the 22 year old Carlos, which you’re going through some stuff. What kind of knowledge nuggets might you drop on the 22 year old Carlos? Not to change anything, because part of what your journey is, has made you, right? But to maybe help them shorten a learning curve, blast through, level up, maybe just a little bit quicker.

What might you

Carlos Bergante: tell him? So I’m going to bring it back to Jiu Jitsu philosophy. That’s fine, man. I’m good with that. Right. Because there’s so much knowledge and, and, and I’m going to back. So, uh, we go back to the 22 year old Carlos, right? Yeah. What are you telling him? I would tell him, I would tell him, Hey, , find the people that you want to emulate, find those people that you want, right?

Yeah. Surround yourself with those people. Yes. And also I would tell them consistency [00:24:00] is the key to everything. Just consistently do those things, , that you need to do to level up. Right. It’s consistency. Consistency.

L. Scott Ferguson: That is so jujitsu because it’s like, I coach from inch by inch. It’s a cinch. By the yard, it’s hard.

Everybody wants this shit now. But if you break that down, short steps, long visions, like when I first learned an arm bar, , long, I was like, okay, I’m not switching hips. I’m just like, yeah, it looked like, like I’m flopping all over the place. But I remember my coach was just like, first, just break it down slow, pull the head, lock the arm, get the top lock on and everything’s inch by inch.

I love that you talked to him about, you’re saying that into emulate the people that you want to get to. So. How do you want your dash? Remember that little line in between your incarnation date and your expiration date, your life date and your death date. Hopefully it’s way down the road, young man. But how do you want Carlos’s dash?

Carlos Bergante: Remember brother,

I’m seeing that comes to my head. It’s like, I really want [00:25:00] to see like that dash. I knew

L. Scott Ferguson: that L word was coming, bro. I knew, I knew it was described that legacy brother. How does that legacy work? How does that look

Carlos Bergante: to you? Well, it looks like. I want to be a person who leaves a legacy of inspiration and overcoming, right?

Inspiration and overcoming whatever, whatever obstacles or whatever challenges happen in your life, right? And that’s the dash right there because that’s what all that that dash is right there. Yeah, I mean, it’s, it’s obstacles, it’s challenges in life, right? And it’s really up to you of where you want to stop.

But I, I, I see myself as that’s part of life is, is the ups and downs, the hills and valleys, right? You’re going to in that dash, that’s what it’s all about. So you got to be able to. You got to be able to be persistent. You got to be able to overcome those, right? And so that’s where I see that dash at, , I look at challenges and, and, and obstacles like [00:26:00] that.

Those are where all the lessons happen. Yeah. Jiu Jitsu, right? Just like in Jiu Jitsu, man. Like you’re not going to, you’re not going to learn anything. If you’re the best guy in the room, you got to get in a room where you’re getting submitted all the time. All day. All day. That’s why, that’s why we have a competition class.

’cause you go in there,

L. Scott Ferguson: the Poda, right? You, you, you, you’re, yeah.

Carlos Bergante: Boda po Poda. There you go, man. You’re, you’re in there with like 20 other black belts. They’re gonna, they’re gonna wipe the floor with you, dude, , all day. Yo. And then so you walk out of there and you’re like, man. Yeah, like you learned so much.

So it’s, it’s all those challenges and those lessons that’s that dash.

L. Scott Ferguson: Yeah, I love it. And you’re enjoying that journey, brother. I see it in your eyes and I hear it from you. Let me ask some Carlos then

if you, okay. If you were to know Carlos, if you were to really know me, what might you say? Like, , , that question, like if you really knew me, you would know this. So say that to yourself, what would we really know about you [00:27:00] if we really

Carlos Bergante: knew you?

If you really knew me, you would know that I am, that I’m a risk taker and that I’m very persistent. Ooh. Yeah.

L. Scott Ferguson: Love that. You’re bad. You have that faith. I’m going to go Napoleon here, a pillar on you. Now, what now? Right. But you have that faith. You back that phase of the persistence that doesn’t recognize failure.

Right. You don’t quit. Yeah. , I

Carlos Bergante: freaking well, I, I, I I recognize failure, but failure is the process to success. Learning is learning. Yeah.

L. Scott Ferguson: Dude, they, they, my coach, , Eric Quinn and his wife, t Tubby Quinn, they’re both fighting, , Eric’s, the MMA champion of Cage and Tubby rank number three and over what’s that?

And of all flow wrestling or flow grappling and, and they say, you don’t lose Fergie. You either win or learn. And you just learn from it, man. And I love that. So what do you think, Carlos, people misunderstand about you the most?[00:28:00]

Carlos Bergante: Well, Scott, that’s a really good question. What would people misunderstand about me?

gEez, I’m drawing a blank to be honest with you.

L. Scott Ferguson: You seem that can I, I’m not going to answer for you, Carlos, but you seem like such an open book, dude. You’re very transparent. You’re one of the most transparent interviews I’ve ever had. And this is over 500 interviews soon. What I’m saying?

This is, I’m glad you can’t answer that because you’re an open book. I’m sure there’s a savage in there. Cause you look so happy and what I’m saying? But dude, I don’t think you want to go there to that side, especially with your background , your backstory and, , obviously your training too, but we come back to that one.

But then Carlos, what is your definition of a life?

Carlos Bergante: A life well lived is a life. Where life happens through you right and and that you are unpacked that what do you mean by that? Like, okay, a lot of people live a life where life is just happening to them, [00:29:00] right, where they’re sitting around and they’re, they’re living reactively, right, and when it’s happening through you, you’re making things happen with your actions, right, and, and you’re living every moment, every, every day intentionally.

Right. And so that is, that is a life well lived where you’re actually taking intentional steps towards life. Yeah. That is strong.

L. Scott Ferguson: Carlos. That is amazing, bro. That is awesome. Time to shine today.

Podcast versus squad. We are back in Carlos. You and I will meet up one day, man. I’m gonna come down and visit you, brother. I actually have some friends. Actually, the person that does all my video stuff lives in Brazil. So, me and Susan are looking to try to kind of make a trip down there. But, we’ll probably sit down, have a brain grenade or a soda or a cava or something, and talk about each one of these questions at length.

But, today, You have five seconds with no explanations and they can all be answered that way. You’re ready to level up. Yeah, I’m loving it. I’m ready to level up. All [00:30:00] right, Carlos, what is the best leveling up advice you’ve ever

Carlos Bergante: received? Surround yourself with people uh, with people that are ready where you want to be in life.

L. Scott Ferguson: Sure. What are your personal habits that contributes to your

Carlos Bergante: success?

Geez, there’s so many, but I would say meditation. Beautiful.

L. Scott Ferguson: So you see me kind of walking down the street or maybe we meet up in an event or something that you’ll be like, man, Fergie looks like he’s in his doldrums a little bit. What book might you hand me to level me up?

Carlos Bergante: Well, I’m reading this book right now and it’s a really level up. It’s by Rudolf Steiner. And it is called the, the way of initiation.

L. Scott Ferguson: Gotcha. John Donnie, put that in the show notes. Carlos, what’s your most commonly used emoji?

Carlos Bergante: I would say the, the arm flex. Gotcha. Nicknames

L. Scott Ferguson: growing up? Kaloy.

Carlos Bergante: Kaloy. I love it.

Typical Filipino nickname.

L. Scott Ferguson: So what is [00:31:00] any hidden talent or superpower that you have that nobody really knows about? Until now.

Carlos Bergante: Besides jiu jitsu

man, I would say it’s my intuition. Beautiful. Awesome.

L. Scott Ferguson: Chess checkers are monopoly

Carlos Bergante: chess and figure for

L. Scott Ferguson: black belts. All our chess peers, headline for your life.

Carlos Bergante: The intentional life. Love it, man.

L. Scott Ferguson: Go to ice cream flavor.

Carlos Bergante: Oh, uh, pistachio.

L. Scott Ferguson: Beautiful. There’s a sandwich named the colloid. What’s on that sandwich? Build it for me.

Carlos Bergante: Rye bread. Mozzarella cheese, tomato, lettuce, onions and I would like a big piece of avocado on there. Oh, nice, man. With seeds and things like that.[00:32:00]

Beautiful. I’m plant based, so that would be

L. Scott Ferguson: it. No problem, man. I love that, brother. Love it. Favorite charity and organization you like to give your time or money to?

Carlos Bergante:

wHat? There’s, there’s one I, man, I, I can’t think of the top, the, the name off the top of my head right now, but he came up with that movie a couple months ago. Tim, help me out here with

L. Scott Ferguson: Jim Kiesel in it about the Yes, the, yeah, I know what you’re talking about. I put the children, right?

Yeah. Put that in the show notes down. Perfect. All right, Carlos, last question, but what’s the best decade of music? Sixties, seventies, eighties, or nineties?

Carlos Bergante: Nineties.

L. Scott Ferguson: I have a head. All right, man. So Carlos, how can we find you, brother?

Carlos Bergante: So everything’s on my website. And it is everything is internal work.

com.

Right. And also Facebook and Instagram. I’m very, very active on Facebook, Carlos [00:33:00] Burgante and same thing.

L. Scott Ferguson: Check out his stories on there. And check out his like Facebook. I, again, I do, I’ve been following on Facebook since I’ve reached out to him quite a lot, a bit ago about fears, the limiting beliefs that he’s literally just dropped and that’s something I even picked up a step from him today.

That helped me out with a coaching client that I was kind of in a blind spot about. So thank you, Carlos. And also squad, I’m going to offer a free. Half hour discussion with Carlos, whenever he charges, he can charge me to the first person that puts colloid, and I’m just going to spell it C O L O Y.

First person that puts that, I don’t care anywhere. I’m going to give you a free half hour of power with Carlos and he can just build time to shine today. Cause I, I want to get as many people in front of my my good guy here as possible. And Carlos, and again, if you put that LinkedIn, if you put it in Pinterest, if you put it, I don’t care where it’s at, you can text it to 561 440 3830, put Kalloy in there, and I’ll be happy to pay Carlos for a half hour of his time.[00:34:00]

And Carlos, if you don’t mind, please leave us with one last knowledge nugget we can take with us, internalize, and take

Carlos Bergante: action on. Yes. Well, I’m gonna, I’m gonna base it off my website here. Everything is internal work guys, right? If you, everything that you want externally happens internally first, right?

So you have to work on the internal part first before you can get anything externally. I love

L. Scott Ferguson: that. And squad, we just had a fantastic conversation with somebody I immensely respect, not just because he’s a BJJ black belt, because he’s just an awesome human being. , he grew up with a negative father figure, really no father figure after his teenage years, mentally, physically abused, broken family.

Again, no male role model, , took the bad path. He dug a hole. Right. , he said, Hey, I’m going to change my life. Get my GED, get some therapy. I’m going to go to the Philippines. Guess what? Failed again. But when he failed, he failed forward. He had a friend hand him a book by TR that really started putting his visions on paper.

Next thing , he’s in [00:35:00] Thailand, right? He’s going there and he’s working remotely. Guess what? A greasy ended up saying, Hey, come to Brazil. He manifested the shit because he got it on paper, get it in ink, get it out in front of you. He continues to work on himself. Right. And when people start seeing you keep showing up, guess what?

Those other people that show up after you are going to look to you for help. And that’s what Carlos did. He sent that elevator down to people. , he really reminds us that life experiences allow you to pass on those experiences so others can shorten their performance gap, right? And that’s what Carlos does.

, he’s a coach that I really feel listens with his neck, not just with his ears. He really leans in to his clients and he really listens to his clients to help them, , fill that performance gap. He wants you to find people to emulate and surround yourselves with them because organically you’re going to become them because you’re going to start taking on their mannerisms.

You’re going to start really hearing what they say, talking like them, eating like them, rolling on the mats like them, and he [00:36:00] wants you to understand that all that all breeds from consistency. It’s the key to everything. Inch by inch, it’s a cinch. By the yard, it’s hard. He’s a person. Colors that’s leaving a legacy.

And if I can use a baseball metaphor, he’s going to slide across one plate, literally bumped and bruised from his past, but he’s going to know that he is planting trees. He’s never going to sit in the shade of. That’s all I can say. This dude’s went through stuff. He does things for the intention, not the attention because he reminded us to live intentionally live, not reactively take responsibilities for your actions and listen to people to respond and not react.

And lastly, Everything is internal work. Everything that’s on the outside comes from the inside. That’s what my good friend, Carlos does again. Someone I immensely respect. He levels up his health. He levels up as well. He’s earned his varsity squad letter here. Time to shine today, brother. Thank you so much for coming on college.

I legitimately love your guts, brother.

Carlos Bergante: Thank you. Thank you. I really appreciate this. This is, this was a great podcast. Thank you so much. Awesome,

L. Scott Ferguson: brother. We’ll chat soon.

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