Everybody thinks the alpha in the room is the loudest person. Most of the time, it’s the quietest one. See, the average people speed up under pressure. Elite people slow down [00:01:00] internally. Their breathing gets cleaner, their thinking gets clearer, their movements get sharper, because pressure doesn’t create character.

It reveals preparation. I’m blessed to coach a Fortune 100 CEO very recently. Massive company, thousands of employees, big money on the line. He told me something interesting. He said, “Ferg, I feel like everything around me is moving too fast.” And I told him, “Good. Now you know what the battlefield feels like.”

The problem wasn’t the pressure. The problem was he was allowing the pressure outside of him to create the panic inside him. Big difference. The elite learn to separate the external storm from the internal response. That’s why the best quarterbacks can throw in chaos. The best fighters can stay relaxed in violence.

The best leaders can make decisions while everybody else is emotionally drowning. Calm is trained through repetition, through preparation, through discipline, through putting yourself in uncomfortable positions. And listen, calm does not mean soft. Some of the most dangerous people on Earth are calm. So this week, when pressure hits, don’t speed up emotionally.

Slow down your mind, control your breathing, control your response, and execute, ’cause calm, it’s a weapon. And talk about calm and having a legendary [00:02:00] person in studio today. We’re bringing a man who has trained everyone from Fortune 500 executives and the elite athletes to SWAT teams, fighter pilots, first responders at ground zero, and the trauma teams in disaster zones around the world.

Dr. Terry Lyles isn’t just talking about stress. He spent decades teaching people how to perform under it. Known by many as the stress doctor, Dr. Lyles has worked with organizations like Richard Petty Motorsports, Team Penske, Gulfstream, Pfizer, Dior, Universal Studios, and Military Special Forces. Ooh-rah.

While also appearing on CNN, Fox News, NBC, ABC, CNBC, and more. He’s even pioneered biometric heart monitoring performance systems, broadcast live during the Indy 500 with ESPN and ABC, measuring pressure and human performance in real time. If you ever felt overwhelmed, if pressure’s ever gotten the best of you, or if you want to learn how elite performers stay calm in the chaos, lean in for this Dr.

Lyles. 

Dr. Terry Lyles: Yeah, it’s great to be here, man. 

Coach Fergie: Thank you. Yeah, Jeremy Howard, who’s the ultimate… I call him the Mayor of Jupiter. Even though [00:03:00] he’s not. He holds this awesome Wednesday night- Great guy … networking event. Yeah. It’s almost getting too big. I know, it’s turning 

Dr. Terry Lyles: into- 

Coach Fergie: We 

Dr. Terry Lyles: need a bigger space.

Coach Fergie: Yeah. It is awesome, and I was blessed to meet you there. 

Dr. Terry Lyles: Yes. 

Coach Fergie: Along with some just other amazing people. And I was just like, “I have to get you on the show.” I think you were the very first one I approached. It was like- I am glad. I hear- … I’m like, “I need somebody,” and John Denny’s “I got this weekend.

I’m out of town.” And so we moved everything around, which was awesome. But, you spent decades studying stress. Yes. And human performance. So there’s one thing that I’m gonna pop off here and ask, but when was the last time you generally got stressed out, and what did you do to work through it?

Dr. Terry Lyles: This morning. That’s 

Coach Fergie: awesome. It’s real, 

Dr. Terry Lyles: right? This morning. It’s like road rage, it’s just craziness. Yeah. And here’s the biggest I think differentiator of what I’ve learned and trained on, is stress is not our enemy. 

It’s actually our potential friend and ally.

Coach Fergie: Love that. 

Dr. Terry Lyles: It’s converting bad stress to good stress. 

Because there is no stress. 

Okay? It’s gravity. Sure. We’re sitting in 1 G load, you and I both now in front of microphones. 

It doesn’t matter how much I [00:04:00] weigh, what my pounds are, but I’m a 1 G load against the ground, which is good stress because I’m comfortable.

If I’m not comfortable, it becomes bad stress. That- So- 

Coach Fergie: I’ve never heard that before, man. Especially I’ve been around pilots in the military, and you hear about that stuff. It’s what I teach. It’s G1, 1 G load. 

Dr. Terry Lyles: One G load. So if you… So this is IndyCar week. Sure. And the- It is right

they’re racing the GP this weekend, doing it today, which I’ll be online, and the Indy 500 is the end of the month. Sure. So I have one IndyCar driver. I’ve trained 40- 

Coach Fergie: Sure … 

Dr. Terry Lyles: in my career, so I got one guy there that’s doing his best right now. And yeah, but it’s stressful. Sure. Turn one in Indy- Yeah

is 235 miles an hour. 

Coach Fergie: Yeah. 

Dr. Terry Lyles: At about four and a half Gs- Gs … l- laterally. Yeah. From left to

Coach Fergie: but that’s adding three to their 1 G, right? 

Dr. Terry Lyles: That’s correct. That’s right. Yeah. So you add three on top of yours- … it becomes four. So it’s 4 G laterals. And they’re doing that four times in a minute and a half.

Coach Fergie: That’s insane. 

Dr. Terry Lyles: So fighter pilots do it once in a high-speed turn.

Coach Fergie: Sure. 

Dr. Terry Lyles: Or there. These guys do that four [00:05:00] times- … in a minute and a half for three and a half hours. 

Coach Fergie: And it’s not just left turns. 

Dr. Terry Lyles: No. 

Steve Austin (Show Sponsor): Everybody’s “Oh, it’s just a left turn four times.” 

Dr. Terry Lyles: Yeah. I’m like, “Try it at 235 miles an hour.”

This weekend it’s left left, oh, that’s right. The Indy 500 is all lefts. 

Coach Fergie: I used to go to Belle Isle in Detroit and go to the- 

Dr. Terry Lyles: Downtown, baby … the race there. Yeah. I’ve done a lot of those. I 

Coach Fergie: know. But I… Then you mentioned it at, Yes … Inlet, and I was like, “Ah, I gotta talk to whoever…”

That, I knew you were talking about Belle Isle when you had mentioned it. Correct. You’ve trained the first responders- … at Ground Zero, forensic medical teams in disaster zones, military personnel, and elite athletes. What did the environments or the, maybe the changes in environments teach you about human beings that the average person complete misunderstands about pressure?

Dr. Terry Lyles: In the midst of disaster is where our greatness really lies 

Coach Fergie: Love it. 

Dr. Terry Lyles: Yes. I went to Thailand and spent a month there after the tsunami. I did four months back and forth to Ground Zero in New York. I went to Haiti after the earthquake back and forth, did stuff there with Anderson Cooper, on CNN.

Sure. So we were just doing all kinds of… But when you see people in disaster, i- whatever that might be- Sure … whether it’s human, whether [00:06:00] it’s business- 

… 

Dr. Terry Lyles: Companies filing bankruptcy. 

That’s where your greatness really is ready to- So there … come through. But the training, as you said in your intro, is what really shines.

Because you’ll never consistently outperform your training. 

Coach Fergie: Yeah, I have a UFC fighter I’m blessed to coach who’s scrapping this Saturday night. 

And our whole camp has been the s- the separation and the preparation. 

Dr. Terry Lyles: Yes. 

Coach Fergie: Yes. 100%. Absolutely. Get that done. Most people think that stress is kinda automatically bad, and you- Correct

you even said that stress can be a friend and an ally, right? That’s 

Dr. Terry Lyles: correct. 

Coach Fergie: I believe you said that, right? So- That’s 

Dr. Terry Lyles: right … 

Coach Fergie: so you s- you teach s- I’m saying it in quotes ’cause I read it, like stress utilization. 

Dr. Terry Lyles: That is correct. 

Coach Fergie: So what’s the difference between stress destroying someone versus stress becoming fuel?

Dr. Terry Lyles: You have to compartmentalize it. So I love the word fuel. So I could take gasoline or rocket fuel and pour it in this room, and get heat close enough to it, and the whole studio goes up. 

Coach Fergie: Sure. 

Dr. Terry Lyles: I could take that same fuel, put it in a container and seal it, put fire around it, and it doesn’t ignite [00:07:00] because it’s contained.

Coach Fergie: Sure. 

Dr. Terry Lyles: So containing our stress correctly internally and utilizing it externally versus externally it’s burning us. That’s why fire suits in racing are so important- 

… 

Dr. Terry Lyles: Because they’re compartmentalizing the potential heat and pressure that could hurt them. 

So v- psychologically, I tell these pilots and race car drivers and other athletes, “You have to zip yourself up.”

So we wanna contain the stress, eat it- 

Coach Fergie: That’s 

Dr. Terry Lyles: love … regurgitate it- Dude, I 

Coach Fergie: love that, 

Dr. Terry Lyles: dude … and push- Yeah … because athletes don’t use the term stress. 

They call it competition. 

Coach Fergie: Yep. 

Dr. Terry Lyles: Great athletes and performers- Yes … love competition. Yeah. They don’t hate- … competition. They don’t hate their stress.

They just know what to do with it because they’ve prepared, they’ve trained, just like you said earlier. Right And they know how to regurgitate it and put it into performance mode. 

Coach Fergie: And you mentioned zip it up. A- and it depends on the sport, right? That’s correct. I’ll say strap it in- Yeah

or snap it in for the wrestlers 

Dr. Terry Lyles: and 

Coach Fergie: whatnot. Correct. Yeah. So they love the metaphors. I… Athletes absolutely love the metaphors. I find my business people, [00:08:00] not so much. 

Dr. Terry Lyles: You gotta train them. You gotta train- I know, exactly. You gotta get, you gotta get that cross. So I’ve been doing this for a long time, as you have, and it- the corporate executive or management teams, leadership teams, they’ll be like, “Yeah, I don’t really understand racing.” And I show them videos, I show them photos- … and I give analogies of their boardroom and what they do in their offices- Love that, yeah … and what do you do- ‘Cause they 

Coach Fergie: compete, right?

Dr. Terry Lyles: Oh, they’re competing every day.

Coach Fergie: Yeah. 

Dr. Terry Lyles: But the power of this is really helping- performers, w- whatever your performance is. 

My wife is on Broadway. You could perform on stage, you can perform in a race car, in a boardroom in school- 

Coach Fergie: Sure … 

Dr. Terry Lyles: taking a test. The issue is not stress. It’s insufficient periodic recovery is our real problem.

We don’t know how to recover from the stress cycles. 

Coach Fergie: Okay. 

Dr. Terry Lyles: So I teach people how to stress recover. Not avoid the stress, because that creates what I consider a forced recovery- … which is meaning you’re crashing. 

You’re burning. 

Coach Fergie: Sure. 

Dr. Terry Lyles: You’re not doing well.

But an isolated [00:09:00] recovery is something that we create in our world. So our heart rate and our breath rate is stalactite, right? Sure. It’s up, down, up, down- … up, down, stress recover, right? 

A flat line is a really bad day. 

Coach Fergie: Yeah. 

Dr. Terry Lyles: Okay? That means no recovery. 

Coach Fergie: Yes. 

Dr. Terry Lyles: The average corporate athlete, as I call them- 

Spend very little time even understanding what recovery is, ’cause they think mach two with your hair on fire gets more done. 

I’m telling you, if you know how to recover correctly- Yes … in two-hour modules- … I can increase your performance by 25 to 30% in less than a week. 

Coach Fergie: Yeah I’ve had…

I’ve been going through a program right now with my coach for the last two years with that, ’cause I’m the hair on fire guy, and I thought that, you know- So am I. … I really leaned in, spiritually with God. I’ve- Yep … I did a lot of different things, which has helped out tremendously, but I… it didn’t slow me down.

And there was the… I’m glad that you brought that up, because i- it’s been proven and shown with mortality. They live, people will live longer. Absolutely. You said in, in sports we call stress the competition. That’s what you said.

Dr. Terry Lyles: And 

Coach Fergie: then pressure. What do you [00:10:00] think people rise to challenge in sports, yet freeze in business relationship?

Why do you think there is that difference between the athlete, the corporate, the house husband, the housewife- … when they… Is it environment? Or what do you see the difference is? 

Dr. Terry Lyles: I think it’s just the visualization, the metaphors we’ve been taught. I hate the word…

L- there’s some words that I just g- totally stay away from. So if I start coaching somebody, I’m like, you can’t say that to yourself.” “Your self-talk’s killing you.” 

And one of them’s routine. Yes. I hate routine. It’s ritual. Ritual is positive, routine is negative. 

Coach Fergie: Love that.

Yep. 

Dr. Terry Lyles: All right? So I tell pe- “Listen, we’re gonna do new rituals now.” And they’re like, “What is a ritual?” A ritual is doing the right thing over and over again, that when you don’t have to think about it, you’re in a zone state. 

A routine is, “Oh, I have to go work out. Oh- … I have to go to the office.

I’ve gotta get on that.” That’s negative. Sure. And the brain chemistry itself between those two words affects- … us so negatively or positively if we don’t know what to do with it. 

So just changing our self-talk, [00:11:00] I can change your brain chemistry. So I’ve done a lot of brain chemistry training.

And it really goes into proteins, carbohydrates, like acetylcholine, dopamine, norepinephrine, what that does in the brain- 

… 

Dr. Terry Lyles: To differentiate cortisol secretion- 

… 

Dr. Terry Lyles: Which eats all of our good chemicals up. ‘Cause it’s like a stress hormone. A certain amount 

Coach Fergie: we need. 

Dr. Terry Lyles: We do. We do need…

it’s fight or flight. But, yeah. But you can only do it for so long- 

… 

Dr. Terry Lyles: Because it’ll burn your immune system. So weak immunity is disease, inflammation- Obesity … obesity- Yeah … weakness. Yes. All kinds of weird stuff. 

Coach Fergie: Yeah. 

Dr. Terry Lyles: So the lack of recovery creates more stress-level hormones that live in our cells and in our body.

Recovery is what flushes it. 

Coach Fergie: Love it. I love it. And squad, we are gonna go a little bit deeper when we come back through the ritual and routine, and also the biometric telementary real-time human performance. My good friend here, Dr. Terry takes his clients athletes, competitors, business people through.

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Coach Fergie: Hey, Steve, thank you so much for the mortgage update. And things are correcting just a little bit at a time. So Steve, thank you so much. I’m blessed for your sponsorship. Again, back with Dr. Terry Lyles. You know- Terry, you’ve studied [00:14:00] biometric telementary telemetry and real-time human performance under pressure, like legit- Correct

were you even just talking about, athletes that r- drive at two, or indyCar athletes- Yeah … that drive 235 miles an hour, they blink, they lose 13 feet. 

Dr. Terry Lyles: 30. 

Coach Fergie: 30, oh, sorry, 30 feet of it, and that, that’s a lot of track, right? In that kind of rate.

Dr. Terry Lyles: You think about a blink, it doesn’t sound like a lot, but- 

Coach Fergie: No, it doesn’t.

So what does the body reveal about, like the fear, the confidence, emotional control that words can’t really hide? 

Dr. Terry Lyles: Yeah. That’s where the, what I consider the inside out training comes from. Love this. Yeah. You have to go internally to relax, as you talked about in your opening. 

Coach Fergie: Yes, sir. 

Dr. Terry Lyles: This calmness, whatever calm is, and we create calmness.

It becomes this space inside of us that’s safe. 

It’s like our womb from our mother, we didn’t need light, heat, we’re never hungry until we were birthed. Our first life stress was birth. 

You regurgitate, they’re cleaning you off. You’re like, “I can’t bel- I’m breathing air for the first time.

I think I’m gonna die.” [00:15:00] So true. “I freak out.” It’s my first cataclysmic trauma is my own birth. So if I can survive my own birth- 

… 

Dr. Terry Lyles: How do I go back into that womb state- Okay … that calmness and create an environment that I control? 

Coach Fergie: Okay. 

Dr. Terry Lyles: Through my umbilical cord, which is my faith, my belief- and my understanding of who I am versus who they think I am- Love that … whoever they are. 

So a blink on a racetrack, like at 200 miles an hour, you’re traveling a football field a second. 

Coach Fergie: It’s 

Dr. Terry Lyles: 100 yards a second. So you don’t have a lot of time, if you will, to really make decisions. You’re making decisions on the fly.

That’s why you have to literally shut the left brain off, keep right brain activated- Sure … which is visual spatial, no time cognition, no distance. It’s just visual optical space. 

Your left brain is still working. Sure. It’s like the hard drive on the computer in front of you. But the right brain is the keyboard system, which is my decisions, thoughts, my beliefs- Sure

that actually put it on the screen. 

So we teach them how to keep their screen activated, keep their hard [00:16:00] drive running, and just become flow in that womb state of just, “I’m gonna stay relaxed, I’m gonna drive 230 miles an hour- Sure … with 32 other maniacs, all with road rage- … and I’m not freaking out.”

I 

Coach Fergie: love that. So i- and is it actual exercises that you do with them? Yes. Okay. Yeah. Very 

Dr. Terry Lyles: good. Yeah. 

Coach Fergie: I love that, ’cause that’s what people will, like… Are you, have you posted that stuff, any of that stuff? 

Dr. Terry Lyles: No, not a lot of that. That- That becomes more proprietary. Thank you. 

Coach Fergie: Yeah. Thank you. I was hoping you would- I 

Dr. Terry Lyles: give away a lot, but those- Yes, you do

are things I don’t give away. 

Coach Fergie: Yes and I’m happy that you don’t. 

Dr. Terry Lyles: You gotta pay for those. 

Coach Fergie: I, Esquerra was trying to get us something there. 

Dr. Terry Lyles: No. We’ll get you later. 

Coach Fergie: But you know- So many people today are addicted to chaos. Correct and I’m… I have been and sometimes still am, right? They they feel uncomfortable when life gets quiet.

So why do human beings sometimes subconsciously create that stress, even when they say they want peace? What are you finding out? 

Dr. Terry Lyles: Yeah, I think what’s happened in our human nature over, millennials, is that if we get bored with [00:17:00] something, we wanna create excitement.

They’re trying to create a chemistry response in their brain that gives them excitement. 

Coach Fergie: Okay. 

Dr. Terry Lyles: Ace tysoline, it gives you this rrr- … this kind of, I don’t wanna say cocaine effect- No, I get it … but that’s kinda what it is. Yeah. Yeah. And we need that high. 

Coach Fergie: Sure. 

Dr. Terry Lyles: So what I try to do is help performers and athletes, executives, create the high from calmness.

That’s recovery. 

Coach Fergie: Ooh, love that. 

Dr. Terry Lyles: And- Okay, just the opposite chemical. So it’s basically I’m gonna sedate you with your own thoughts that you become so relaxed and calm, you can out-jump people around you. 

Coach Fergie: Okay. 

Dr. Terry Lyles: Whatever that jump is. Sure. It could be faster on the track, it could be faster on the court, it could be better on- Object handling

Broadway. It doesn’t matter. For… yeah. So the high changes from I need the excitement to I create my excitement- … out of calm relaxation. 

Coach Fergie: Love that. And do you train it, your [00:18:00] proprietary stuff- Yes … I’m saying that – Yeah … a bit snarkily too. Yeah. But no, do you train that so it becomes a ritual- 

Dr. Terry Lyles: Yes

Coach Fergie: with them? Absolutely. Okay. Is that something… ‘Cause I love what you said, ritual and routine, it’s different. They- that’s something that I probably have heard it a different way, and I might even have taught it- 

… 

Coach Fergie: A certain ways. But I love that b- one, they both start with an R. Exactly. You know what I’m saying?

It’s easy to differentiate with that, but a lot of people are like, “Oh my gosh, a routine.” But when you get them, what is the maybe a big success story, if you don’t mind sharing- … that when you really got them into that ritual of slowing things down and operating within that calm, or like people like to say flow state and whatnot, what…

Give me a success story if you don’t mind sharing. Oh

Dr. Terry Lyles: No. You don’t have to if you think it’s- I’ve got hundreds. We could be here all day. One that just came to my mind I just shared the other day was performer I worked with here went to Jupiter High School Oliver Askew. He’s a good friend of mine.

Oh, nice. Okay. IndyCar driver. 

Coach Fergie: Yeah. 

Dr. Terry Lyles: Won the IndyCar Lights championship. Great dude. Yeah I’ve been 

Coach Fergie: blessed to meet him once or twice. 

Dr. Terry Lyles: Yeah. Really good kid. We won it together. We won it together. That’s… Oh, really? I was training him. Yes. 

Coach Fergie: We were h- huddled around… I go to Cava. 

Dr. Terry Lyles: Okay.

Coach Fergie: Yeah. I enjoy Cava. [00:19:00] And I… And when he was racing. A lot of those young kids in there- They’re there … they were like, “Oh, that’s As-…” That’s awesome. 

Dr. Terry Lyles: No, he’s a great- Great kid … young man, just- So cool … so cool. So we were d- And one day, we were in Toronto. We won we finished P2 in… They run two races in Toronto in the summer, downtown, the streets of Toronto.

Coach Fergie: Yeah, sure. 

Dr. Terry Lyles: He finished P2 in the first race and won the second race, and then went on to win the championship for the rest of that season in 2019. And he came back out of the car, and we do debriefs every time he jumps out of the car for a couple minutes. We do most of it out. And he goes, Doc, this I’m like looking at these cloud formations when I’m going down the back stretch.”

And he goes, “It’s kinda a little weird that I’m like fixated-” You are … “by the clouds.” I know. I’m like… I go, “Bro, I love it. That means you’re not thinking.” 

Yes. So the training that led up to that- Oh my gosh, yes … was being able to meditate with your eyes open at 200 miles an hour- 

With other road rage maniacs, and you become reactionary on the positive side of the flow versus the negative side of [00:20:00] threat or fear. So I call that a challenge response. 

So if I feel something is a threat to me- 

Steve Austin (Show Sponsor): Sure … 

Dr. Terry Lyles: I’m fearful. I can take that same coin, it’s a physical coin I give the trainers- and people I work with, and you flip the coin over and f- it goes from threat to challenge. Love it. So that’s bad stress, good stress. 

Steve Austin (Show Sponsor): Love that. 

Dr. Terry Lyles: So if I can just take my threat, “Oh my God, I don’t wanna crash.” Don’t say, “I don’t wanna crash.” 

First thing they teach you in race car driving is if you’re sliding toward the wall, never look at the wall.

Look at where you wanna go- Yes … and your body will help you- That is so good … stay off the walls. I just 

Coach Fergie: watched- ‘Cause 

Dr. Terry Lyles: if you look at the wall, you’re gonna lock up. 

Coach Fergie: I just watched John Denny, which, you know John, great guy. Oh, I love 

Dr. Terry Lyles: John, yeah. 

Coach Fergie: John’s awesome. He’s… I had him in the studio last week, but I would just watch the video of him surfing Jaws.

Dr. Terry Lyles: Yeah. 

Coach Fergie: Jaws, dude. Yeah. That’s insane. No, he’s… 

Dr. Terry Lyles: Yeah, I 

Coach Fergie: know. Out in Hawaii. And the people that don’t know, that’s where Laird Hamilton lives and, just they… he took John under his wing and did… You see that video? He- what he j- what you just said, where you wanna go.

Dr. Terry Lyles: Yeah. 

Coach Fergie: Don’t… ‘Cause you’re in Jaws, dude, y- you- 

Dr. Terry Lyles: Don’t look at the 

Coach Fergie: waves … you commit. 

Dr. Terry Lyles: Yeah. 

Coach Fergie: You commit. That’s awesome. So you do talk abou- ab- about mental, emotional, spiritual, and physical- Yes … alignment [00:21:00] being our four wheels of the same car, right? Correct. Correct. I said that right? That you did.

We… Okay, perfect. Okay. So which of those four do you believe most high achievers are neglecting most? And if they do neglect that most, what eventually, can happen to them? 

Dr. Terry Lyles: It depen- it depends on what your scores are with the training that I do. Okay. So you… Mental, emotional, spiritual, physical, four wheels, tires on the same car, as you said.

Love 

Coach Fergie: that analogy. 

Dr. Terry Lyles: But it depends. It could be day by day. Sure. One day it could be m- I’m mentally losing air pressure, some days spiritually I’m losing air pressure- … in my right rear. Some days I’m emotionally losing, some days I’m physically losing. It changes moment by moment, day by day.

Love it. So the training is about- Yeah … I… Check your air pressures- 

… 

Dr. Terry Lyles: Before you start your day. Start your day with life purpose. Understand where you’re going. So we have PSI reports in our cars. You can look at most new cars and- … anything within the past 15 years, and they’ll give you the PSI in every tire.

You could be 29, 30, 32, 31. They don’t have to be exact. 

But we, in racing, [00:22:00] this was so cool, in NASCAR, in IndyCar, all the race, Formula 1, but it was interesting in NASCAR, they would- We really would focus on, because they’re heavier cars. They’re 3,400 pounds- … versus an IndyCar that’s 1,500 pounds.

Very different animal. Wider tires, the whole thing. Sure. So you could put one pound of pressure in one tire and speed the car up. And so I call that the psst. 

Coach Fergie: Yeah. 

Dr. Terry Lyles: Like, how much more mental do I need today? 

Coach Fergie: Yeah. Psst. 

Dr. Terry Lyles: One word. 

Coach Fergie: One word. 

Dr. Terry Lyles: I just need one thought. Yes. I just need one more cup of water.

I need one more prayer- Yes … spiritually to go, “Lord, you got me today.” Yes.

Coach Fergie: Absolutely. It’s 

Dr. Terry Lyles: psst. It’s not like a golf- Love 

Coach Fergie: that. Dude, I love that … It’s one 

Dr. Terry Lyles: pound of pressure. 

Coach Fergie: Love that. And squad you hear me talk that I think balance is junk, and I think that Terry might- Yeah. … i- in my book that’s coming out, another shameless plug, Harmonic Hustle, right?

I believe in harmony. Oh, I like that. I… susan and I love jazz. So we’ll go find a jazz man, that will say spiritual might be the drums g- yeah. The money might be the guitar. Personal relationships might be the piano. If one of them’s out of tune, [00:23:00] right? It 

Dr. Terry Lyles: ruins 

Coach Fergie: it all.

It s- ruins it all. But again, you don’t… You can find balance within the harmony. 

Dr. Terry Lyles: Correct. 

Coach Fergie: ‘Cause you go in tuning that, that instrument. That’s what I do a lot of my clients as well, is we find out which instrument… Or we use their analogy of sports- Sure … or whatnot. That that’s amazing that you said that.

That, that’s awesome. If you were talking to somebody right now that feels overwhelmed, burned out, anxious, stuck, and mentally exhausted, what is the first thing you might tell them in the moment to stop, that, you don’t mind sharing. If you just saw them and then you see “Man, we need to bring this guy down.”

Just m- and then, maybe he needs- … your program, right? What might you tell him? 

Dr. Terry Lyles: The first one, the simplest and the most powerful is neshima. Neshima. It’s a Hebrew word for breath or inspire. 

Coach Fergie: Love it. 

Dr. Terry Lyles: So I say, “Stop and breathe.” I was on a plane one time coming from New York back to Palm Beach, and there was a lady that was freaking out in the back and having a panic attack, and I’m up front, and they’re go like, “Do we have a doctor aboard, a doctor on board?”

And I take my headphones off. I’m like what do you need?” I’m not, like- … a medical doctor. I’m a psych guy- … and I was the only one on board, evidently. So I ran back there, and [00:24:00] she’s freaking out. There’s two rows of people. “Ah, no, we’re gonna die. The plane’s gonna blow up.”

She’s having a- Dude … freaking- Wow … full-on meltdown. And I got in front of her in the seat, and I’d sat her down, and I go, “Breathe. Breathe with me. Come on. I need you to breathe. We’re gonna have a baby together right now, and it’s called calm. I need you to breathe in-” “… breathe out.” That’s awesome.

“Breathe in, breathe out.” That’s awesome. And within 60 seconds, this woman was cool. 

Coach Fergie: That’s awesome. 

Dr. Terry Lyles: And then everybody’s on the plane just like- Neshima … “Oh my God, neshima.” Neshima. They’re like, “Oh my God.” And so the core word is breath and/or inspire. 

Coach Fergie: Okay. 

Dr. Terry Lyles: So the spiritual side of that is inspiration, which I don’t think you motivate people.

Sure. I think we inspire people- Inspire … they motivate themselves. 

Coach Fergie: Yes. 

Dr. Terry Lyles: So it’s when God spoke to, Adam, and he- … he breathed into his nostrils the breath of life. He became a living soul. He neshima’d him. Love 

Coach Fergie: it. 

Dr. Terry Lyles: I think God just showed up and- Adam just stood up. He got so inspired, he just jumped, his hair on the back of his head stood up, and he went “Yo, bro.”

Yo. “What’s up? I’m alive.” Love that. So what life is being inspired, and what breath is the [00:25:00] moment-by-moment life that we live being inspired. 

Coach Fergie: Love that. Moment by moment. That’s the 

Dr. Terry Lyles: simplest. 

Coach Fergie: Love it. And we have to wind… I have seven other questions, but we have to wind things down. Now, you’re giving away a free PDF to your Performance Under Pressure book.

Dr. Terry Lyles: That’s correct. 

Coach Fergie: You can find that at timetoshinetoday.com/lyles, L-Y-L-E-S. You can find Terry at terrylyles.com, T-E-R-R-Y-L-Y-L-E-S. Phone number is 561-254-9177. Again, 561-254-9177. And I’m gonna… And you got 10 seconds to answer this question. Got it. I ask all of my clients. You have 20 seconds, actually, but how do you want your dash remembered?

That little line in between your incarnation date and your expiration date, your life date and death date. This world needs you, so hopefully it’s way down the line, but how do you wanna be that dash remembered? 

Dr. Terry Lyles: Difference. 

Coach Fergie: Love it. 

Dr. Terry Lyles: I made a difference. 

Coach Fergie: Difference. 

Dr. Terry Lyles: Beautiful. In somebody’s life, in someone’s company, 

Coach Fergie: in someone’s action.

In the past 26 minutes, brother, you’ve made a difference in mine. 

Dr. Terry Lyles: Thank 

Coach Fergie: you, brother. Thank you so much for coming in. Appreciate you, man. Thank you to my producer, Brian Mudd. Thank you to [00:26:00] WJNO. Go out and, a- again, my troops, fellow troops out there, please be safe, the ones heading overseas or just protecting us abroad.

Absolutely love your guts, squad. Have a great 

day.