156-From Small Beginnings Come Great Things – TTST Interview with Paul Rogers from The Take Action Academy

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Welcome to Episode 156 -An overnight success which took 21 years in the making.  From successful Commercial lawyer to kitesurfing instructor running an international kite business. Then teacher on a native Indian reserve and now life coach.  If that wasn’t enough, he has beaten Cancer and cheated death in a horrific traffic accident.  Remember Our Troops! Enjoy!

  You may not be responsible for the injuries or your bad experiences, but you are damn well responsible for your recovery

– Paul Rogers

Knowledge Nuggets and Take-Aways

1. A great coach is empathetic and a good listener

2. You can’t teach what you don’t know and you can’t lead where you wont go

3. Listen to your heart and get out of your head.  Trust your intuition

4. Live with no regrets. You can’t repair what you don’t do

Level Up! 

Fergie

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Speech Transcript

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Hey, this is Paul Rogers and from take action academy.ca and if you really want to learn how to level up your life, you should be listening to time to shine today’s podcast with my very good friend Scott Ferguson what a man.

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Time to shine today podcast squatted a Scott Ferguson weird Episode 156 with my good friend, Paul s. Rogers, a true survivor, somebody that went through a horrific horrific accident that a lot of people would never make it through. But he came back from it and leveled up. And he now he helps others level up with this take action Academy. He’s my friend from north of the border. They are in the phenomenal country of Canada. And we had just a fantastic conversation. I know you’re just going to dig up some serious serious knowledge nuggets from it. So sit back, relax, break out your notebooks because here comes my good friend Paul Rogers from the take action Academy. Let’s level up.

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Time to shine today bursary squad. It is Scott Ferguson and from small beginnings comm great things. The take action Academy his mission is to help you develop awareness to find your purpose. And I have my really good friend Paul Rogers on he has a hell of a backstory. Talk about a comeback story a little rocky should should a cue the rocky music here but you know Paul is an overnight success that took 21 years in the making. From successful commercial lawyer to kite surfing instructor running an international business then teacher on a native Indian reserve. Now a life coach. If that was enough, he has beaten cancer. And she did death in a horrific horrific horrific traffic accident and I and I’m so blessed that Paul’s still breathing air on this big blue planet and you know, be able to have him come on and tell a story about who’s travesties he had to go through and he’s going to help you level up as well. So make sure you break out your notebook and take some really good notes here from my good friend Paul. But Paul come on to the time to shine today varsity squad and introduce yourself. But first, what’s your favorite color? And why? Oh,

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my favorite color is blue because it reminds me of the sea. And given that I’m a very much a water babe, then that’s where I am at

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women kite surfing in water. No way. Okay, so it’s hurricane season down here. And I live in Juno Beach, Florida. And I’ll tell you what kite servers are out there and their love in this man, they have no four or five foot breaks up near the shore. So they’re just going off is beautiful. But let’s get into a little bit of our origin story for you here. Paulette, let’s let’s let’s take this back a little bit. I mean, you’re a corporate lawyer. So you’re basically a douchebag You know, you’re a corporate lawyer, and then you know, you got into this, you know, little traffic accident or maybe a little bit more than a little bit. Let’s get the origins there. And then let’s work our way into the take action Academy.

3:08  

Yeah, sure. I mean, yeah, commercial lawyer and you’re absolutely quite describing me like that and when you realize yourself that you’re a douchebag I know you’ve reached the upper limits. So yeah, I mean, at that point there I kind of just followed my heart after that and the the my brain and got me that far into getting a good job, you know, getting an education but then the story kind of ends there’s no happily ever after that point. And so I followed my passion and two months it’s led me all the way through life where I’ve needed to go and yes, you you mentioned the accident, which is a I always like to do things with dramatic flair as your you’re just about to hear. Two years ago in March, so March 2018, I was with my family. My wife, my two year old at the time, and my white, Husky Malema dog. And we were driving back from day to day care and a train hit the car which we are traveling in on an unmanned crossing. And yeah, he, the the train did a pretty good job at destroying everything, including our good selves. We both my wife and I ended up on life support for 10 days and my parents got that call. You never want to get as a parent to actually come over from the England to Canada to turn the machine off. I mean, it just just pulls my heart and all sorts of directions just even thinking about that. And my wife woke up a day before I did she can’t remember this but she she asked to come down to my bedside and I’ve still asleep I like to say sleep because it’s far more Need and actually the reality of the situation. Right, right. And, and so she talked to me for a while. And then the next morning, my, my parents arrived and the doctors ran and hugged them once I arrived and said, Forget everything we said, He’s awake, we didn’t do anything. So we’re going to call this a miracle. So when the ICU workers start saying a miracle, you tend to sit up and listen. Yeah. And yeah, when I woke up, I first ride, my whole life had gone in the toilet, and I didn’t know who I was where I was. But what I knew is I had a horrific amount of pain from a broken neck broken back and smashed skull. And it’s quite funny. This is funny. I looked in the mirror when I was able to go and look in the mirror and and I look like Captain jack Sparrow, because I had two black guys and my dreadlocks and I, as I said, Oh my God, I’ve turned into Captain jack Sparrow.

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Oh my gosh. So

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let’s go through those injuries. Again, you had a broken, broken neck, that was c one and two. The back was l three and four. The skull on the right hand side had been shattered so badly that I was going to undergo a seven hour brain operation to scoop out the fragments. And one shard has gone through nerve seven, which means that I’m my right hand side of my face is paralyzed. Right. So yeah, that so I have what’s called a TBI, traumatic brain injury. I had to look that up to start with, and I have PTSD. So I always thought, and, you know, I’m pretty sure this is common thinking. But it was only really the the grounds of our very brave, sort of servicemen and women who got PTSD, but I have a massive empathy for them more than I ever have done. Because I you’re living ounds or noises or metallic, I it takes me straight back to the event. Sure.

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Right, right. Do you did you seek out counseling for the PTSD?

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Yeah, I mean, I two years. And I’m still going strong on that. And there’s, there’s various ways in which people have tried to attack it. But what’s happened is that I’m a pretty unorthodox guy. And that’s what my brain has done. So every time they tried to make progress, it just shut it down. So they’re having to come up with new ways of actually getting around that. And, yeah, it’s and what I’ve actually found is that I have been like, the old fashioned mechanic when you could get under the bonnet of your car and with a, with a spanner, and screwdriver. And I’ve done that in my own head. And I’ve actually done more repair work to myself any medication or surgery, and it’s something which has to be done every day. And every day, I know, I’m getting stronger and better.

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It’ll be a never ending journey, though, because of how traumatic it was, right? I mean, you’re gonna have to, I guess, as we age anyways, we have got to, you know, do things that we didn’t ever really did before. I know I’m on my yoga mat a heck of a lot more than I ever was before, you know, just so I can feel feel good. So let’s take it forward a little bit. With regards to, you know, after the accident, you’ve healed a little bit. Let’s get into the take action Academy and how really coaching came about?

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Yeah, I mean, my wife and I, and we work so well together. We both decided because she also has TBI, a TBI as well, that when we actually first recovered, there was no real resources, we are desperate for information. And there was not really any we could find. So we decided that we wouldn’t let that happen to anyone else coming behind where we were. So we put this take action academy.ca because we’re up in the Canucks and and it’s a loads of resources that we found which have been helpful to us to start people on their paths of recovery, because you may not be responsible for the injury, but you’re damn well responsible for the recovery. And that is where we have basically, we want to pay it forward. Because we recognize that we are lucky to have another roll of the dice. And we want to help by coaching speaking training programs. We any way which we can use a platform to help other people love it. So

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what do you think makes a great coach then Paul?

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I really think empathy is got to be really the main thing because there’s a great phrase I heard the other day, which is You can’t teach what you don’t know, and you can’t leave where you won’t go. And so, you know, I, I have got my mental health, empathy from actually being in it, rather than actually anything else, I am very lucky to actually have been still been able to talk because my brain injury is all around the front lobe. So, you know, a centimeter or so in the wrong direction. And and that’s done. So that’s also something which I’m trying to put to good use.

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Sure. I love it. So when you bring in somebody in to the tick action Academy, or maybe in a discovery period, or maybe you’ve hired, let’s say, they’ve hired you, you start working with them, what is some secret sauce you use over there, Paul, to help them find their blind spots?

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The first thing I usually do as I, I shot them by reverse engineering. And I say, Okay, let’s start at your funeral. And who do you want standing around? And what do you want them to say? Do you want them to say, yeah, Paul, he always worked hard from nine to five in the office, you know, he gave his best, or do you want someone to say, this man made an impact, and I want to continue that. So it immediately aligns you with what I think is your true purpose, and also a passion. Okay. And as you reverse that back, you just say, Are you in alignment with that? And if not, then you actually can start to change and get in alignment with it.

11:35  

I love that. I love it. So when you maybe let’s go back to maybe a discovery period with a prospect client, you’re gonna coach is there? Hell, man, even if they hire you? Is there any good question that you wish they would ask you, but never do?

11:53  

Yes. Because that what they do is that they tend to feel that they’re imbalanced because oh, well, ours is never as bad as yours. And it’s like, well, you know, it’s not

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just gonna say that you ever play that, like, sip of the car back to you, in a sense be like, yeah, oh, my. Okay, go ahead. I’m sorry. Go ahead.

12:13  

No, it’s not a pissing competition at the end of the day. And, you know, it’s, it’s something which actually, fine, yeah, okay, mine is traumatic. But trauma is trauma doesn’t matter how it comes, it can be emotional, it can be mental, or it can be. And we’re all going through a very traumatic period at the moment. And that’s something that overwhelms the brain, some of you can’t buy your way out, or you can’t run away from. And it’s that feeling of, I’ve only got one direction, and it’s through it. Right. And, and no trauma is greater or less than anyone else’s. Sure. So that’s the starting point. And even grant, that’s what I like.

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So if I am out, you know, networking, which we’re allowed to are in South Florida, no matter what the media says, you know, if I’m pressing flesh, meeting people, or even virtually like, what kind of things are they saying that would make them a good referral prospector connection for the ticket action Academy,

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they,

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it’s digging behind what we all see because we all portray our very best image that we’ve got live and where, you know, we’re doing great, but there’s odd clues of, they’re stuck, that they have got to a point where they, they don’t know where the next thing is, and then looking for something, you can see that they’re looking for something to get hold of. And that is where then actually, that is where we can help because, you know, we have been there. And we want to help. So there’s two important things, knowledge and also the desire to help other people. So

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Love it. Love that love that it’s so empathetic and whatnot, you know? Yeah, that kind of blew me away. really wanted to be dig behind what you don’t see you. You’ve been dropping some serious knowledge nuggets here, Paul, I appreciate that. And so does my squad. So let’s get in our DeLorean with Marty McFly. Remember him? Right? He’s our generation. So let’s get in. Let’s go back to the 23 year old Paul Rogers. Okay, what kind of knowledge and I guess we call him here. Time to shine today? What kind of knowledge nuggets? Are you dropping on the 23 year old Paul to maybe help him shorten this learning curve level up a little quicker. I’m really blaster.

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I think the knowledge I would pay forward to myself would be Listen to your heart, get out of your head because your head will follow the herd because that’s where it’s programmed to be. If you listen to your intuition, once you find it, it will never ever give you a bum decision. It will always take you to where you need to be. And you just have to accept what life gives you and be willing to front it up whatever it is right? Because, you know, I am, I am really pleased the accident happened because without it I would not be on this path of purpose and passion.

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Wow, that’s strong. So that would he have listened?

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I think he mostly wouldn’t because my mind was I thought I was the coolest thing in the world. But actually now I realize I was a dick. And

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brother, me too, when you’re driven like us, I mean, you’re an attorney. And, you know, I was a real estate agent that, you know, you know, Detroit is really cutthroat and everyone’s going after it. And there’s really no empathy or, you know, any couth, if you will, and it’s like, you know what, I would like to think that I would listen, but I really didn’t, you know, I wouldn’t have you know, I would have dropped almost the same Knowledge Nugget on myself with Listen to your heart and not your head and follow your intuition. But a lot of times ego just keeps driving and driving associate that age with that testosterone still flowing like, like crazy, right?

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Yeah. And we’re empire building at that stage. You know, you’re all about crit. And you know, you’ve driven on by as you say, the, the desire because you just come out of however many years of being in it being locked in education. It’s like, this is a I’m going to take the world on. And yeah, I mostly wouldn’t. First of all, I wouldn’t even recognize myself I to walk past myself I was to Brother.

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So, Paul, how do you want your dash remember that little line in between your incarnation date and your expiration date? which you’ve, you know, you’ve dodged that expiration date in a big way. But how do you want that dash remembered? How do you want maybe your legacy your epitaph to be,

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I want people to remember to remember and see that actually, I made a difference. And I impacted people, even if it’s just one person who was going through something or found no way out. Just to reach that one person. You don’t need that for me now is success.

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Love it. I love it. Just really giving for pain forward and impacting, you know, inch by inch. It’s essential. Everyone wants to impact so many people. It’s like you impact one person, you know, per day that comes up to thousands of people because not only are you impacting them, they’re taking what you’re saying impacting others, you know,

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it’s like it’s like a ripple in the pond. Exactly. And you know, that it’s, it’s when you see it, it’s actually so I mean, that’s what gives you and myself that fire to do it every day.

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Love it. Love it. So what what’s one thing Paul knows for sure.

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What’s that?

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What’s one thing you know, for sure?

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What? I one thing I know for sure is I thought I was spiritual before my accident. In fact, I mostly even wrote it on my resume. I suddenly had no clue. And you know, there is greater forces at work than what we can see. Absolutely. And we believe in visible things all the time. Trust love everything else. Why is it so difficult to think of something else around that same thing?

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I’m God fearing You know, I’m a Christian. I don’t care what anybody else’s I mean, I don’t judge I’m just I love God and love Jesus. And then people come to me and I said the exact same thing you trust love, they’re invisible, but you still believe in it, you know, believe that? It’s possible. So I appreciate you being transparent about that. So Paul, what are let’s remove our cell phone tablet? computer. What’s three things that Paul can’t live without?

18:46  

Oh, wow. Mmm hmm. I would say my desire because I have had that removed from me and I know how painful that is. I think I don’t need technology I don’t that technology is just just a means rather anything else. I think books for me I need I need to be learning I’ve been hoovering up information all over the place. And a good a good mentor you know somebody to actually found out some ideas.

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So he said same time. I love it. I love it. So Paul, what’s the definition? What’s your definition of a life well lived.

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I think getting to the end and not having any regrets. Regret is a horrible emotion which you cannot repair, disappointment all the other ones you can repair regret. It’s a one time ticket and it’s too late to go back and change it. So Wow, Brian live with none to start with.

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I love that I love and Paul as we start to wind things down here just a little bit. I like to do my level of lightning round. So You and I could talk 1520 an hour and each one of these questions, but you got five seconds with no explanation because they don’t need them. So just you’re ready to fire him back.

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Oh yeah,

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here we go. What’s the best leveling up advice you’ve ever received? What’s the best one leveling up advice you’ve ever received?

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And don’t listen to anyone else.

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share one of your personal habits that contributes to your success.

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I write 10 things of gratitude every day.

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Love it. Love that, Paul. So not the book that you’re reading right now or the flavor of the month. What is that one book if I’m in my doldrums? I’m just not feeling it. You’d be like Hey, forget read this book.

20:42  

It’s actually an old book. Napoleon Hill. Think and Grow Rich. Think and Grow Rich.

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Love it. Yes. Bible baby. No more business. Yeah, absolutely. Paul, what’s your most favorite emoji when you’re texting?

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Haha. It’s got to be the firework one.

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Love. One. Love it. Okay, so physically, what age would you be if you could be that for the rest of your life? While still continuing to get wisdom and knowledge and continue learning physically what age would it be?

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I would pick the age I’m at now.

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Okay. All right. me. I’m 32 all day. Yeah, I think that was and keep learning at that age. Because I’ll tell you what, I was still feeling good and getting up in the morning and not being all crinkly. crackly. And But yeah, I really like I get it, man. Because you went through a lot. So good. Ah, and is there any charity in organization you like to support and give your time and money to?

21:41  

Yeah, the Red Cross who do fantastic work across the board?

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Yes, I do. I love that the money goes where it says going. And last question. What is the best decade of music 6070s 80s or 90s? Oh,

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no, I’m gonna my guilty pleasure is the 90s Hey, Britpop.

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Okay. The 90s was so transitional to I mean, it kind of rolled out of the big hair 80s you know, and then rolled into like the grunge and like you said the grip the Britpop and whatnot. No, it’s great, great decade, you know. So Paul, where can we find you, brother?

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Um, well, I’m on LinkedIn all the time. So Paul s Rogers, because there was so many Paul Rogers I had to do something different. Don’t see the take action. academy.ca Yeah, I’m always there for a chat. You know, I’m just then open whenever anyone needs

22:35  

a love it love it. Leave us with one last Knowledge Nugget you want us to take with us? internalize and take action. Oh,

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I’m gonna leave you with a quote by Dr. Wayne Dyer. Which is don’t die with the music still in you. Yes.

22:52  

Yes. Love that. I’m actually writing that down as a reminder. Don’t die with music still in you. I know when he passed you. You had all that music out? That’s beautiful.

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If you can live like he did you. You did a good job.

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I still think he was taken way too early from us. But I’ll tell you what, he was a champion I get I had the great pleasure of meeting him twice and it’s just he’s just an amazing man. It just the order that came off that guy’s just great. But squad we just had a fantastic fantastic masterclass, free masterclass, I should add with my really good friend Paul Rogers from take action Academy. You know, he believes that a great coach is very empathetic and listens not only with his ears, well, this eyes in every other census to really really dig into his clients, he’ll tell you that you can’t teach what you don’t know. And you can’t lead where you don’t go won’t go. You know, he likes to when he brings clients on, he likes to reverse engineer and, you know, he put you at your funeral and he’ll ask you what are people saying about you. And if not saying what you really want to say, then you need to start leveling up and Paul will definitely get you there. If you really want to dig behind what you don’t see and get unstuck to take action Academy is where you really want to go to to level up and I can personally put you in touch with my friend Paul. He’s going to tell you to listen to your heart and get out of your head and trust your intuition. You know, Paul me to when Paul’s time is actually going to expire which hopefully it’s many years down the road you’ll know that he made a difference and impacted people even if it’s one by one inch by inch is essential as we like to say here it is time to shine he didn’t tell us don’t live with any regrets because you can’t repair what you don’t do. You know so just get going get out there get rockin fall on your face like we like to say fail forward and keep moving. And don’t die with the music’s not out of you. You know a boy Dr. Wayne Dyer and Paul is the epitome of living Li vi n No, he’s a total go giver. He levels up his healthy levels up his wealth. Use always progressing, always moving forward. Paul, you’re part of our squad now. Thank you so so much We’re coming on the time to shine today’s show brother.

25:03  

Thanks, man.

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