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[Scott Ferguson] 12:33:50

Time To Shine Today podcast varsity squad. This is Scott Ferguson, and I am blessed to bring my beautiful friend Jane Cavelle, on from she’s across the pod over in the United Kingdom, which great place to visit it’s probably maybe a little bit Cold there with it being kind of close to the

[Scott Ferguson] 12:34:06

English Channel, and you know just this time of the year and whatnot.

[Scott Ferguson] 12:34:09

But Jan is a fantastic author. There’s gonna be a good a book, giveaway at the end, but you have to stand for the end, which I will purchase on time to shine. Today’s dime.

[Scott Ferguson] 12:34:20

But you know Jan is an entrepreneur from the United Kingdom, and so I said, who has a few decades which, looking at her, couldn’t believe that but a few decades of running entrepreneurial business behind her once she started from her kitchen table when her children

[Scott Ferguson] 12:34:34

were small, and she was a single mother to go on to build that into a multi.

[Scott Ferguson] 12:34:39

That’s multi 1 million turnover business. She also promotes entrepreneurship through campaigns various, and her books, and again, we’re gonna have a book give way at the end.

[Scott Ferguson] 12:34:48

So make sure you stay on. And the fantastic reads, I’m going to also put our author page, you know, from Amazon in there for anybody that misses the boat on the Free Book, and so they could pick it up there.

[Scott Ferguson] 12:35:00

And and, Jan, thank you so much for coming on. Please introduce yourself to the time to shine today.

[Scott Ferguson] 12:35:04

To the time, to shine today. Podcast firstly, squad.

[Scott Ferguson] 12:35:07

But first, what’s your favorite color? And why?

[Jan] 12:35:09

My favorite color. Why, Scott, what a good question! Well, I seem to be rolled the front of Orange at the moment.

[Scott Ferguson] 12:35:14

I was just gonna say it better be Orange lady, love it, love it, and let’s talk a little bit about this kitchen table.

[Scott Ferguson] 12:35:24

And then how you launch things and be in how many kids do you have 2 kids single mom launch?

[Jan] 12:35:27

2, 2.

[Scott Ferguson] 12:35:30

Ed. And I was basically raised kind of by a single mother for some point in my life.

[Scott Ferguson] 12:35:35

So I’ve mad respect for you. But like, let’s talk a little bit about that.

[Jan] 12:35:37

Thank you.

[Jan] 12:35:39

It’s very tough. It’s very tough. Yeah, and they were only sort of 5 and 7 at the time.

[Scott Ferguson] 12:35:45

Yeah.

[Jan] 12:35:46

So we’re talking small small kids, but you know they needed me.

[Scott Ferguson] 12:35:47

Yeah.

[Jan] 12:35:51

And you know it doesn’t raise your parental multiply. You know.

[Jan] 12:35:56

Somehow I’m gonna do this, you know, so. But I never had.

[Scott Ferguson] 12:35:58

Sure!

[Jan] 12:36:01

I never had ground designs of running a big business, you know.

[Jan] 12:36:05

I’ve just started at. As you say. You know on it’s actually on the kitchen table, on a shelf next door to the kitchen table.

[Scott Ferguson] 12:36:12

Alright! What kind of business was it? Love?

[Jan] 12:36:14

But yeah, you know. Sorry.

[Scott Ferguson] 12:36:17

What kind of business was it?

[Jan] 12:36:18

If I’m well wish you. When I started I was buying and selling things because I thought that was very adaptable around the kids.

[Scott Ferguson] 12:36:25

Right.

[Jan] 12:36:25

You know, I just could could work on the phone and biting and sell them on a regular basis to interior designers.

[Jan] 12:36:33

But I ran into supply problems almost immediately. So I started in a very, very small way, going into manufacturing.

[Jan] 12:36:41

And that’s where it grew. Because from, you know, a friend working in a corner of a bond, it went up to 2 factories.

[Scott Ferguson] 12:36:42

Really?

[Scott Ferguson] 12:36:52

Wow, what kind of product? Was it really okay? And was it?

[Jan] 12:36:54

Furniture.

[Scott Ferguson] 12:36:59

Did you go all in on this, or was it a side hustle at first?

[Jan] 12:37:03

At first it was I mean it certainly had to be our only income.

[Jan] 12:37:07

We moved a bit in time from maybe on income support, because, you know, it was one of those divorces and one thing in another.

[Scott Ferguson] 12:37:15

I’m sorry. Yeah.

[Jan] 12:37:16

So, you know I had to. I went. I went to to the Government, you know they wouldn’t be this flexible in this Stone age.

[Jan] 12:37:23

I’m sure they wouldn’t have with you either, but they certainly wouldn’t hear, and I just went.

[Scott Ferguson] 12:37:25

Right.

[Jan] 12:37:27

And I said, You know I don’t want to do this forever.

[Jan] 12:37:30

I don’t want to be on support forever.

[Jan] 12:37:32

I want to start a business with you. Talk me up and give me some cash to keep me going. They gave me a tiny amount every week, which was just an off to keep things taking over.

[Scott Ferguson] 12:37:42

Wow. So yeah, I gotta ask you like, why didn’t you quit?

[Jan] 12:37:49

Why did I quit? Why do you quit? Well, it’s a big question.

[Scott Ferguson] 12:37:50

Why didn’t you quit? Didn’t, didn’t, didn’t?

[Jan] 12:37:55

Yeah, that’s a long leap from a kitchen table to quitting.

[Scott Ferguson] 12:37:58

Right.

[Jan] 12:37:59

And that’s one of the reasons I mean, I was in that business for 20 odd years.

[Scott Ferguson] 12:38:04

Alright!

[Jan] 12:38:04

So or near on. So the children at left home, so that drive and reason behind it had gone, and you know that’s a that’s a big thing.

[Jan] 12:38:17

If you’re working towards your purpose, your vision, a business one or a personal one, which was in my case suddenly suddenly, when that goes, you’re thinking, why am I doing this every morning?

[Scott Ferguson] 12:38:20

Yeah.

[Jan] 12:38:30

And you tell yourself, because you know you will do, and it’s sensible all these things.

[Jan] 12:38:35

And of course it’s not quite enough to keep you going.

[Scott Ferguson] 12:38:37

Sure!

[Jan] 12:38:39

So that was one of the reasons. Another was I was like getting very burned out, and I swung from thinking, I’m gonna get sell this.

[Scott Ferguson] 12:38:45

Okay.

[Jan] 12:38:52

I’ve had enough to. Yeah I haven’t been sensible.

[Scott Ferguson] 12:38:57

Right.

[Jan] 12:38:57

Keep, pull yourself together and keep going, and so I’d I’d go and look for a buyer, get a buyer, and then panic at last moment, and it must have annoyed so many people and go story.

[Jan] 12:39:08

You know I’ve changed my mind. I’m gonna stay in for and I turned down some good office for ironically.

[Scott Ferguson] 12:39:10

Right.

[Scott Ferguson] 12:39:13

Hmm!

[Jan] 12:39:14

But which but you know one particularly well. I occasionally kick myself looking at that, but then came it down.

[Jan] 12:39:25

I thought, no on off, and and I’m virtually walked overnight.

[Scott Ferguson] 12:39:26

Done? Wow! And what was the biggest obstacle growing?

[Scott Ferguson] 12:39:33

That because I understand the manufacturing, but outside of that, what was one of the roadblocks?

[Scott Ferguson] 12:39:41

Will you almost quit?

[Jan] 12:39:42

I I love it because you know you say you want some manufacturing, and people don’t.

[Jan] 12:39:47

It’s really tough. I think.

[Scott Ferguson] 12:39:49

Right.

[Jan] 12:39:51

You know there were that was, I said, Yeah, I would say it’s different.

[Jan] 12:39:58

Struggling to pick one, as you can hear apologies for the status.

[Scott Ferguson] 12:40:01

You’re fine. You’re fine!

[Jan] 12:40:02

But I think the biggest one really was the fact that I started from a position of extreme ignorance.

[Jan] 12:40:13

I mean, I knew nothing about business on that kitchen table absolutely 0.

[Jan] 12:40:17

So what I had learned was all along the way, and after the kids had left and everything, so the street courseway into the business lifetime, I was thinking I need to find out more about how this ought to be done.

[Scott Ferguson] 12:40:36

Sure!

[Jan] 12:40:36

So I started going on a whole load of courses, and I could see very clearly things I’ve got right, and things like got wrong, and 15 years into a business it’s very tricky to unpack, because so much is set in stone.

[Scott Ferguson] 12:40:46

Hmm!

[Scott Ferguson] 12:40:55

Yes.

[Jan] 12:40:55

And like I come back from a courses come back from London and go.

[Jan] 12:40:59

I know what needs doing and and fired up to put it right, because I can see it and meet some obstacle that was just insommountable.

[Scott Ferguson] 12:41:04

Right.

[Jan] 12:41:09

It, you know there were 10 year leases on the factories.

[Scott Ferguson] 12:41:13

Sure!

[Jan] 12:41:13

We were tied into when the buildings weren’t right for us.

[Scott Ferguson] 12:41:16

Right.

[Jan] 12:41:16

Things like that. And it was just you know, you could see it wasn’t gonna really happen.

[Jan] 12:41:24

It was always gonna be a fight. Your name, because Foundation is weren’t always quite good enough.

[Scott Ferguson] 12:41:26

Sure!

[Scott Ferguson] 12:41:30

Sure, absolutely so. What do you think? People that are working towards their own startup?

[Scott Ferguson] 12:41:37

What do you think they’re biggest? Blind Spot is?

[Jan] 12:41:43

I think it’s yeah, I do. I think so.

[Jan] 12:41:49

The biggest plot blind support is that you sync, and it is hard work.

[Jan] 12:41:52

You think it’s all about hard work, and so you put everything into that, and you overlook that.

[Jan] 12:42:01

You actually need to be valued. You need to spend time and possibly money on developing you, because your business will only develop as much as you do.

[Scott Ferguson] 12:42:14

Oh, my gosh! That’s that is gold! Wow! Wow!

[Scott Ferguson] 12:42:20

This. That’s yeah. Everything is a reflection of, you know.

[Scott Ferguson] 12:42:25

You coming back, but you’ve got to take care of you right.

[Jan] 12:42:27

Yeah.

[Scott Ferguson] 12:42:28

Oh, my gosh! That’s that’s just pure fire, that’s gold! That’s beautiful!

[Scott Ferguson] 12:42:35

So with people. Do you help people with startups? Jen or.

[Jan] 12:42:40

I do not. Well, I did to some extent, back.

[Jan] 12:42:43

Then I got involved in campaigns to encourage enterprises.

[Jan] 12:42:48

I think you mentioned very kindly at the beginning, and I loved it.

[Jan] 12:42:51

I got asked beyond one for the Uk Government in working in the EU, and then got off but after that it spins off and you get pulled in by, and schools and business groups, and I find it so rewarding that.

[Scott Ferguson] 12:43:03

Sure!

[Jan] 12:43:08

But of course there was only limited time to do it.

[Jan] 12:43:13

Initially. When I came out of my business I was talking to.

[Jan] 12:43:17

I just needed time, but then I when I got into writing and and started regenerating a new me, so we say, I thought, you know, actually.

[Scott Ferguson] 12:43:19

Hmm!

[Scott Ferguson] 12:43:26

Sure!

[Jan] 12:43:28

The first thing I can do. There are people who I can help, and hopefully, most of all, my writing will help people.

[Scott Ferguson] 12:43:35

Yeah, with that being said, when maybe someone comes up to you and they, I’m sure you, if you speak, or you know you’re promoting your book, they have a lot lot of questions and whatnot.

[Scott Ferguson] 12:43:48

But is there one question that you wish people would ask you?

[Scott Ferguson] 12:43:53

But never do.

[Jan] 12:43:56

Good questions you’re asking what I wish.

[Jan] 12:44:01

They asked. I think probably I will go, for what’s it really, truly like being an entrepreneur?

[Jan] 12:44:09

Because unless you’ve done it, you don’t get it.

[Jan] 12:44:13

It’s full of misconceptions.

[Scott Ferguson] 12:44:15

You know, that’s so beautiful. You said that because people don’t realize about being an entrepreneur, I’ve been, you know.

[Jan] 12:44:23

Yeah.

[Scott Ferguson] 12:44:23

I I served the military for 7 years, but then I could not stand having to answer to people.

[Scott Ferguson] 12:44:26

But one thing I’ve realized about entrepreneurship, and I know you can attest to this even more than me.

[Scott Ferguson] 12:44:31

That we wake up every day, unemployed, which means, when we wake up we have to find someone to interview us, to buy that furniture right or so.

[Jan] 12:44:40

Yeah.

[Scott Ferguson] 12:44:42

Whatever service you have but the thing is, is for a lack of better term.

[Scott Ferguson] 12:44:46

I get off on that. I love it now. If I had to punch a clock I would be worthless right.

[Jan] 12:44:50

Yeah.

[Scott Ferguson] 12:44:50

But I love that and the grind and the hunt. That’s one thing. People I wish they’d ask me is like, listen to you have to wake up every day the Lion or the gazelle, because when the sun rises, we both better be running right.

[Jan] 12:44:59

Hmm!

[Jan] 12:45:02

Absolutely.

[Scott Ferguson] 12:45:02

And we we wake up that way. So have you seen the movie?

[Scott Ferguson] 12:45:06

It’s an American movie. But have you seen the movie back to the future?

[Jan] 12:45:10

Many years ago. But yes!

[Scott Ferguson] 12:45:11

Okay, right? It’s almost 40 years ago. I mean, I’m 50 now.

[Scott Ferguson] 12:45:15

So it was like I was, you know, like I don’t know about 12 when it came out, but let’s get that glory with Marty Mcfly.

[Jan] 12:45:23

Hmm!

[Scott Ferguson] 12:45:23

Let’s go back to the double-duced, the 22 year old.

[Scott Ferguson] 12:45:27

What kind of knowledge? Nuggets, what you drop on here?

[Scott Ferguson] 12:45:31

That’s what we call here time Sunday. What kind of knowledge would you drop on her to maybe help her?

[Scott Ferguson] 12:45:35

That’s so much change too much, but to maybe help her shorten her learning curve or blast through, maybe just a little bit quicker.

[Jan] 12:45:43

I think always. Now, I really emphasize being yourself being authentically you going for your own passions and goals, not worrying about other people and not worrying about failure.

[Scott Ferguson] 12:45:58

Oh, my! Gosh!

[Scott Ferguson] 12:46:01

Yeah, that’s beautiful. You know. It’s funny.

[Scott Ferguson] 12:46:06

I make 2 New Year’s resolutions every year right?

[Scott Ferguson] 12:46:09

Since 2,009 yeah, cause that’s when the market crashed and everybody kind of lost everything here in the United States, right?

[Scott Ferguson] 12:46:14

But I make 2 new years for us. One makes someone smile every day right?

[Jan] 12:46:17

That’s something. Hmm!

[Scott Ferguson] 12:46:18

I just got you all right. Awesome 2, unless I’ve hurt you.

[Scott Ferguson] 12:46:23

Disrespected you, or stole from you, or something negative.

[Scott Ferguson] 12:46:26

I give 0. You know. What about what you think about me?

[Jan] 12:46:28

Yeah.

[Scott Ferguson] 12:46:29

And so thank you for saying that, because when you’re gonna launch something that has your name on it, you must be authentic and have that thick as skin right which I’m sure is a single mom, your skin must have been thick and and then I think I miss, phrase the question

[Jan] 12:46:38

Hmm!

[Scott Ferguson] 12:46:46

earlier. But why didn’t you quit when you started it?

[Jan] 12:46:51

Good question. Yeah, that’s another good question, I think for many years I loved our business with the passion that we do love our businesses with, you know, and I would joke.

[Scott Ferguson] 12:47:01

Sure!

[Jan] 12:47:03

They’ll have to carry me out of here, you know, and you know, never occurred to me that I would want anything else.

[Scott Ferguson] 12:47:06

Right.

[Jan] 12:47:12

So it in some ways it was, you know. Well, why don’t I love it anymore?

[Scott Ferguson] 12:47:18

Yeah.

[Jan] 12:47:18

You know, it came as a shock that I could possibly ever want anything else.

[Scott Ferguson] 12:47:20

Yeah.

[Scott Ferguson] 12:47:22

Right, when that steps out of your why, it’s time to get out.

[Jan] 12:47:27

Yeah, yeah.

[Scott Ferguson] 12:47:27

That’s the way that I really feel I’m the same way I was a real estate broker for 23 years, and a pretty damn good one but I was like, I don’t wanna step away.

[Jan] 12:47:33

Hmm!

[Scott Ferguson] 12:47:35

It’s like real estate to me. It’s like my high school girlfriend, right?

[Jan] 12:47:39

Yeah.

[Scott Ferguson] 12:47:39

I’ll like I love her always. Be in love with her in a sense that romantic love.

[Jan] 12:47:44

Hmm!

[Scott Ferguson] 12:47:45

She’s my first, if you know what I mean. Right? You know.

[Jan] 12:47:47

Yeah, I do.

[Scott Ferguson] 12:47:48

So it’s like, but you’ll always be fond of it.

[Scott Ferguson] 12:47:50

But you know my mentor, my coaches said, Hey, let’s build you a team, so they run it so you can still stay close to it.

[Scott Ferguson] 12:47:57

But you can build your coaching business you know, for the last 13 years, and stuff.

[Scott Ferguson] 12:48:01

So I love that. So how do you want your dash remembered that little line in between your incarnation date, your expiration, date, your life, date, and death date? Hopefully, it’s way down the road.

[Scott Ferguson] 12:48:12

But how does Jan want her dash? Remember?

[Jan] 12:48:17

I think because it was always my childhood dream.

[Jan] 12:48:21

If somebody puts that tag also underneath that I would go happy.

[Scott Ferguson] 12:48:28

So I’m sorry. What were you saying?

[Jan] 12:48:30

I was saying, because it was such an obsessional childhood dream all my life to become one.

[Jan] 12:48:35

I think if somebody put the word author underneath there, I would probably be happy.

[Scott Ferguson] 12:48:36

My gosh!

[Scott Ferguson] 12:48:41

Wow, that’s beautiful. Yeah, I’m sure somebody will.

[Scott Ferguson] 12:48:45

And again, hopefully, it’s way down the road, cause you have so much to share with this world.

[Scott Ferguson] 12:48:50

So, Jen, what do you think people misunderstand the most about you?

[Jan] 12:48:54

But me I mean, I think.

[Scott Ferguson] 12:48:59

That looks, how you answer it about me. I love it, I love it.

[Jan] 12:49:01

Yeah, wow, what do I misunderstand?

[Jan] 12:49:06

I think some people find the fact that I am so straight, down the line, and I am 100% authentic of putting.

[Jan] 12:49:15

Or throws. Might, you know. I think they used to.

[Jan] 12:49:19

Most people are much more genuine, and I’ve yeah, I’ve done much more, not not less genuine, but more so, possibly more socially a client. I don’t know.

[Scott Ferguson] 12:49:30

Right.

[Jan] 12:49:31

But you know I will just put it out there and hope that I can be of service, and sometimes that comes over. It’s too direct, I guess.

[Scott Ferguson] 12:49:41

No, I can see that it’s like, and you to me you get a pass because what I mean by that is I don’t use the word excuses, but you have a reason for the come off that when you raise 2 kids from a kitchen table.

[Scott Ferguson] 12:49:54

On Government assistance, going after your Y. It’s like that can be intimidated on down the road, especially and there’s no negative connotations to Webin.

[Jan] 12:49:57

Yeah.

[Scott Ferguson] 12:50:04

But females, you know. There you see a strong female.

[Jan] 12:50:05

Yeah.

[Scott Ferguson] 12:50:07

Sometimes it could be off-ting or bikes and see that.

[Scott Ferguson] 12:50:11

But I think that when you and I meet hopefully one day we’ll give each other big, hug and laugh and go have a pint or something, you know.

[Jan] 12:50:16

That would be lovely.

[Scott Ferguson] 12:50:16

I mean, that’s that’d be great.

[Scott Ferguson] 12:50:20

So what if anything keeps you up at night?

[Jan] 12:50:23

What part sorry. Scott?

[Scott Ferguson] 12:50:24

What? What if anything keeps you up at night?

[Jan] 12:50:29

I just have. I still have a passion to do so much.

[Jan] 12:50:35

You know there’s not enough hours in the day.

[Scott Ferguson] 12:50:37

Right? What is? What is the next step for you? I know you have the books, and you’re helping people.

[Scott Ferguson] 12:50:42

Is there anything on the horizon that you’re like?

[Scott Ferguson] 12:50:44

Oh, shit! I still wanna do that!

[Jan] 12:50:47

Oh, I mean I get fired up. Still, I get ideas, and you know the entrepreneur is still alive.

[Jan] 12:50:58

You know I you never spin off some. We had a couple of great events for just tiny ones, but virtual events for the launch, my book, and that’s so.

[Scott Ferguson] 12:51:08

Nice.

[Jan] 12:51:09

Such fun, and you know a lot of people were saying whenever next events you know, are you gonna do a big one?

[Scott Ferguson] 12:51:14

Wow!

[Jan] 12:51:16

And I’m thinking, oh, oh, so you know.

[Jan] 12:51:19

But and you know, I just there’s a lot of spin off already from this book.

[Scott Ferguson] 12:51:24

That’s beautiful!

[Jan] 12:51:25

Actually, and so I don’t know where it’s gonna take me.

[Jan] 12:51:28

But it’s not exciting. My life gets right now. It’s amazing.

[Scott Ferguson] 12:51:28

That’s beautiful. It’s beautiful. And you, when you know your why, that whenever way the journey goes like even my coaching business, a lot of people. I have goals. I have goals.

[Jan] 12:51:38

Yeah.

[Scott Ferguson] 12:51:38

I’m like, where’s your vision? I mean visions you can literally think your visions are.

[Scott Ferguson] 12:51:43

Why, your goals just, kinda you know, help reach that. I I love that you’re not done.

[Scott Ferguson] 12:51:47

That’s what I love about this. This. This is awesome.

[Scott Ferguson] 12:51:51

So give me something in the past year. That’s a $100 or less.

[Scott Ferguson] 12:51:56

This you’ve purchased. It’s really surprisingly leveled you up.

[Jan] 12:52:09

You have to have headphones, but it does help to be up here.

[Scott Ferguson] 12:52:11

Oh, yeah.

[Jan] 12:52:16

Yeah should be, it should be one. I mean, I read so much.

[Scott Ferguson] 12:52:20

It could be more. That’s fine.

[Jan] 12:52:21

I’m trying to pick something recently that I bought, you know, cause I know that we discussed books and.

[Scott Ferguson] 12:52:31

It could be a book, love, if you picked up some the past year that just rocked your world.

[Jan] 12:52:33

Yeah, I mean, I it’s I haven’t purchased it recently, but I mean I reread some of my favorite business books.

[Jan] 12:52:41

I mean what the why Mr. Sinak is obviously one of them.

[Scott Ferguson] 12:52:44

Yeah.

[Jan] 12:52:49

But, for example, I, some of my favorites. Yeah, I get fascinated by teamwork, and I love Pat.

[Jan] 12:52:57

Then, Sioni is. He didn’t see any, you know.

[Scott Ferguson] 12:52:58

Oh, yeah, I love his parables. I love his business parables.

[Jan] 12:53:00

I mean. But yeah.

[Scott Ferguson] 12:53:02

Beautiful. That’s awesome. So, Jen, what would be your definition of a life?

[Scott Ferguson] 12:53:09

Well, lived.

[Jan] 12:53:13

Going for it. I think you know.

[Scott Ferguson] 12:53:17

Oh, I love it! I love it awesome! That’s that’s beautiful.

[Scott Ferguson] 12:53:21

And squad. We are going to take. My good friend Jan Cbell through our leveling up lightning round just as soon as we get back from thinking or speakers, and affiliates time to shine today podcast versus squad we are back in Jan, I really I was serious I really love.

[Scott Ferguson] 12:53:36

To, you know, meet you one day, and whatnot, and I’m sure these questions will talk 1520 min about a lot of them.

[Scott Ferguson] 12:53:43

But today you have 5 s, with no explanations, and they can all be answered that way.

[Scott Ferguson] 12:53:48

You write a level up, let’s do it. What’s the best leveling up advice Jan has ever received?

[Jan] 12:53:49

Okay.

[Jan] 12:53:58

I think, probably to do this latest book. Actually, I want to.

[Jan] 12:54:02

My son, because that’s probably bigger than my 2.

[Scott Ferguson] 12:54:03

Beautiful!

[Jan] 12:54:07

And you know, sorry. Yeah, to speak to this book from my son.

[Scott Ferguson] 12:54:09

Got to keep it short. And, Jan, you gotta keep it short.

[Scott Ferguson] 12:54:13

No worries, love it, share one of your personal habits to contribute to your success.

[Jan] 12:54:20

People don’t like it, but I’ve afraid it’s hard work, you know.

[Scott Ferguson] 12:54:22

Beautiful when you text what is your most commonly used Emoji?

[Jan] 12:54:23

You need to work hard for success.

[Scott Ferguson] 12:54:28

If any, when you text.

[Jan] 12:54:29

I’m not a great shit, Moji shows my age or no.

[Scott Ferguson] 12:54:31

Good. No problem, no problem. Just checkers are monopoly.

[Jan] 12:54:42

Probably I’m about to just I’m gonna have to play same monopoly.

[Scott Ferguson] 12:54:46

Beautiful. Go to ice cream, flavor.

[Jan] 12:54:52

Testash share.

[Scott Ferguson] 12:54:54

Alright! Good! There’s this. How about nicknames growing up?

[Jan] 12:54:59

Oh, goodness! I this is gonna confuse you. I had some menu because I was a very briefly, but I was an acting family, and my mother.

[Jan] 12:55:09

It had us all play characters all day, so it was.

[Jan] 12:55:12

It was pretty pretty weird, you know. From one moment on, was Oliver from all over Twist, and you know, the next moment I’d be something else.

[Scott Ferguson] 12:55:18

Sure!

[Scott Ferguson] 12:55:22

I love it. Let’s build a sandwich.

[Scott Ferguson] 12:55:26

The Jankabel sandwich. What would be on that sandwich?

[Jan] 12:55:30

Oh, Mayo! I’m a I think, a good chicken chicken.

[Scott Ferguson] 12:55:33

And me too.

[Jan] 12:55:38

Let us in a lot of eating.

[Scott Ferguson] 12:55:39

Perfect perfect love it favorite charity and organization. You’d like to give your time or money to.

[Jan] 12:55:48

I give my money to a homeless charity, Ron Chan. Not if you notice that to actually put, anyway, just especially for you.

[Scott Ferguson] 12:55:50

Good for you.

[Scott Ferguson] 12:55:54

Thank you so much. And last question, but what’s the best decade of music?

[Scott Ferguson] 12:55:58

60, seventies, eighties, or nineties.

[Jan] 12:56:05

I love music from also on. I’m a hopeless, non selective music lover.

[Scott Ferguson] 12:56:07

Me too!

[Scott Ferguson] 12:56:13

Okay, very good. We’ll just leave it at that. That’s beautiful.

[Scott Ferguson] 12:56:17

So, Jen, how can we find you, my friend?

[Jan] 12:56:18

You can find me on my website, which is Www.

[Jan] 12:56:23

Dot jamabel.co.uk.

[Scott Ferguson] 12:56:26

Excellent, and I’ll put that in the show notes as well.

[Scott Ferguson] 12:56:29

But folks a little bit about your new book here start for success. Entrepreneurs, guide to Startups.

[Jan] 12:56:35

My new book is, it comes out of the history we’ve been talking about about my learning for.

[Jan] 12:56:41

Make it. If it’s important. Good foundations are, and also to help people understand what entrepreneurship is all about.

[Jan] 12:56:51

And so I wanted to book. That was really representatives representational of entrepreneurship, not some sort of possible piece, but somebody’s never run a business, and I don’t need that really good.

[Scott Ferguson] 12:57:02

Right.

[Jan] 12:57:04

Some of them are not, but you know, so it’s it’s full of information that you need.

[Jan] 12:57:11

Hopefully, I think it probably is, but also it’s contextualized by stories from loads of entrepreneurs around the world.

[Jan] 12:57:19

So if I’m saying something about values or something, I’ll have a couple of stories it’s precisely from real time entrepreneurs.

[Scott Ferguson] 12:57:27

That’s beautiful!

[Jan] 12:57:27

Showing what they’ve changed in their business about them, which I think makes hopefully entertaining reading as well as useful.

[Scott Ferguson] 12:57:36

But I love it, and I’m hoping that one day, because of your story, that you’ve you know that your background, that you know I know you like Peter Lashiani, and like his books, the business parable type.

[Scott Ferguson] 12:57:48

I hope you write 1 one day. I really do, because I think that you would be able to relate with somebody as the On the heroes journey are you all Peter does, and all of his books with regards to like how this salesperson is about to lose is between I would love to rewind

[Jan] 12:58:01

Absolutely. Yeah, no. I think I just realized, I’ve probably yeah.

[Scott Ferguson] 12:58:04

by you. I know.

[Jan] 12:58:07

He’s probably influenced my writing actually, because of that, I hadn’t.

[Scott Ferguson] 12:58:08

Yes. Yes. He’s influenced by Hun. A 100%.

[Jan] 12:58:12

Yeah.

[Scott Ferguson] 12:58:13

I love that I love when you said that I was like finally, I have a kindred spirit out there that’s beautiful.

[Jan] 12:58:18

Yeah.

[Scott Ferguson] 12:58:18

So do me one last favor, and leave our squad of listeners.

[Scott Ferguson] 12:58:23

Oh, I’m sorry, Squad. I just remembered Donny.

[Scott Ferguson] 12:58:26

Thank you. The first person that puts Hastings Hastings and any of our social media I’ll know you’ve listened to the beginning, to the end.

[Scott Ferguson] 12:58:35

I will personally buy a book of Jan’s startup for success, and have it mailed to you.

[Scott Ferguson] 12:58:40

So first person, but hasty. I don’t care if it’s pinterest Instagram Twitter.

[Scott Ferguson] 12:58:44

Whatever put Hastings in there, that I’ll know that you’ve listened and we’ll send that book out to you.

[Scott Ferguson] 12:58:50

But, Jen, do me one last solid. Leave us with one last knowledge.

[Scott Ferguson] 12:58:54

Nugget that we can take with us, and internalize and take action on.

[Jan] 12:59:00

What have you been dreaming of? Go for it? Taken action on it today?

[Scott Ferguson] 12:59:03

I love it. I love it and squad! We had really a fun discussion, but also kind of a master class by someone that was kind, just enough by her government to get by.

[Scott Ferguson] 12:59:15

But she did not make excuses. She made adjustments and built a business that was worth millions, or is worth millions, you know.

[Scott Ferguson] 12:59:24

She wants you to remember, to always work towards your vision and know your why.

[Scott Ferguson] 12:59:29

And if you don’t know how, get your asking gear if the passions there you get your asking your ask somebody, and they people are more than willing to point you in the right direction if they really care if they’re coming from a good go giver heart.

[Scott Ferguson] 12:59:45

You know she wants you to remember, never overlook being value, and to start with that, you have to take care of you.

[Scott Ferguson] 12:59:52

You know the whole example of, you know. If you’re on a plane, put your mask on first so you can help others.

[Scott Ferguson] 13:00:00

Always take care of yourself. I believe my friend Jan does what she loves in the service of people that love what she does.

[Scott Ferguson] 13:00:07

Means. She loves helping people. She loves being an author, and people love her for that.

[Scott Ferguson] 13:00:11

I know that I do, and that obsession of being an author.

[Scott Ferguson] 13:00:14

She’s published fantastic books and don’t forget that book.

[Scott Ferguson] 13:00:17

Giveaway that I had out there. And I believe that Jan is planning trees. She’s probably never gonna sit in the shade of because of her passion.

[Scott Ferguson] 13:00:26

What she did, raising 2 kids single mom and still getting it done again.

[Scott Ferguson] 13:00:30

She didn’t make excuses. She made adjustments.

[Scott Ferguson] 13:00:32

She wants you to go out there and do it scared if you’re scared.

[Jan] 13:00:36

Yeah.

[Scott Ferguson] 13:00:36

Still do it, and keep that momentum going. Jan, you such a beautiful lady!

[Scott Ferguson] 13:00:41

You level up your health, you level up your wealth, you’re humble yet you’re hungry still.

[Scott Ferguson] 13:00:46

And you’ve earned your Varsity squad letter here at time to shine today.

[Scott Ferguson] 13:00:48

Thank you so much for coming on. I absolutely love your.

[Jan] 13:00:50

My! I’m honored, humbled, delighted. Thank you.

[Scott Ferguson] 13:00:54

You’re very welcome. Chat soon.

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