And that’s when I told her something a lot of high performers need to hear, which I was told actually in the past. Achievement is a terrible place to look for self-worth, because achievement is rented. The problem isn’t ambition, the problem is when your identity gets tied to the scoreboard, when you start believing you’re only valuable when you’re producing, only valuable when you’re winning, only valuable when you’re achieving.

The toughest people I coach aren’t usually struggling with failure. They’re struggling with the fact that success never gave them what they thought it would. So here’s the question: If somebody took away your title, your company, your accomplishments, your trophies, followers, your flowers, and your paycheck, would you still know who you are?

‘Cause performance is something you do, identity is who you are, and when those two become the same thing, that’s when people start feeling lost. And talk about [00:02:00] getting people back into feeling themselves and getting back on track, I got joining me is a new friend, but she’s became a really good friend, Melissa Scalfa, a former Fortune 100 executive who spent 25 years in some of the biggest rooms in business: Nike, Wall Street, Honeywell, ADP.

Building teams, driving transformation, and learning what highest performance really costs when success looks great on the outside but starts draining you on the inside. Today my good friend Melissa coaches powerhouse leaders and business owners who have already achieved big things but feel that pull for something more.

More meaning, more impact, more clarity, and more of their real voice in the room. Her work is about helping ambitious people stop leading from pressure and performance, and start leading with calm authority, authentic presence, and energy that actually sustains them. This isn’t about winding down. This is about recalibrating, breaking through the ceiling that used to feel normal, and stepping into the next season with more power, more purpose, and fewer apologies.

So my friend, thank you so much for coming in, and I know it’s… You just got back from an awesome trip. Yeah. You sent me some pictures of you climbing a mountain. [00:03:00] I’m like, what? And you were sitting here talking with my producer Brian and, he mentioned it, that you’re probably better that you didn’t know what you were getting into- 

Melissa Scialfa: 100%

L. Scott Ferguson: when you were 

Melissa Scialfa: hitting it right? Yes. 

L. Scott Ferguson: So it is, it’s awesome. But, you’ve worked with Fortune 100 executives, entrepreneurs, and leaders at the highest levels. Be honest with me. Who’s harder to coach: A CEO worth $100 million or a spouse trying to decide where to go for dinner on Friday night?

Melissa Scialfa: Oh my God. I’m gonna not really answer that one. 

L. Scott Ferguson: You’re good. 

Melissa Scialfa: But, I think coaching anybody personal is a dangerous territory. Is different. 

L. Scott Ferguson: Yeah, 

Melissa Scialfa: Yeah. 

L. Scott Ferguson: Right? 100% different. That’s the thing is I’m blessed to coach professional athletes, but it’s all of our conversations are about what’s happening not on the field, the court- Yeah

and whatnot, right? Yeah. So you’re not stuck with it, but you’re just- you have to recalibrate- 100% … yourself while you’re doing it. 

Melissa Scialfa: 100%.

L. Scott Ferguson: So again you spent 25 years, over two decades, and again, squat Fortune 100, this is pretty awesome. You’ve reached levels that most people spend their [00:04:00] entire careers chasing.

What was the moment you realized success and fulfillment are not the same thing? 

Melissa Scialfa: Oh. Man, I dabbled around that moment probably for a good decade. Something happened when I turned 40, a lot of transitions, and I felt I felt like I was promised if I kept achieving and got to the next thing, similar to how you opened- 

I would find an… Some I’ve arrived. Some badge of honor, something that finally told me I was enough inside. 

L. Scott Ferguson: Right. 

Melissa Scialfa: And like your client, I would get there, and I’d be like, “How long would it last? Six hours?” “Six days? Certainly not six weeks.” And I felt unfulfilled, but the trick was I didn’t realize I was allowed to find joy and fulfillment- in work. 

L. Scott Ferguson: Absolutely. 

Melissa Scialfa: My m- my methodology was [00:05:00] work hard, play hard. 

Right. And with that came laughing at people who said, “Oh, where’s your joy?” I’m like, “Joy? 

L. Scott Ferguson: I’m working.” Yeah, you don’t got time for that joy, right? That’s right. Yeah. But it, and people like yourself and myself and whatnot, but the top of one peak is the bottom of the next.

And instead of actually taking time back and… I tell my clients a lot, “Give yourself credit for invisible progress.” Yeah. ‘Cause the ones that inch by inch, it’s a cinch, right? But when you reach that milestone, it’s like new goals, new everything, instead of like- Yeah … I’m not saying bask in it and rest on it, but enjoy it a little bit.

Melissa Scialfa: Absolutely. Yeah. I do think basking in it sometimes. You’re the- 

L. Scott Ferguson: Yes … 

Melissa Scialfa: you’re accountable for your own fulfillment. 

L. Scott Ferguson: Right. 

Melissa Scialfa: Yes. And when it comes from outside influences, when the outside influences fail- 

… 

Melissa Scialfa: You’re in deep- 

L. Scott Ferguson: 100% … 

Melissa Scialfa: trouble. 

L. Scott Ferguson: Yes. And you’ve said that, and I pulled this right from your stuff that, many people wake up one day and realize they’ve been living a life built around other people’s expectations.

Melissa Scialfa: Yeah. 

L. Scott Ferguson: So how does someone recognize when they’re drifted away from [00:06:00] their authentic self of who they really are? 

Melissa Scialfa: I think in real life, for me, I would be in a meeting, and you know those icebreakers they have where they’re like, “Pick your favorite book,” or- … three truths, two truths and a lie.

When the panic hits that you don’t actually know the answer, right? And so you’re like, “W- what do I say? What’s the best answer? What’s gonna make people laugh? What’s what?” You realize how disconnected from yourself you are. 

L. Scott Ferguson: Yeah, go deeper on that. 

Melissa Scialfa: I think I spent so much time defining my identity- 

On my performance, on achievement- Which, by the way, was built on mimicking what I thought other people were. “Oh, c- charisma means this leader.” 

Or happiness means this, and so my definition of success was mimicking others, so it wasn’t really inside. 

L. Scott Ferguson: Right. 

Melissa Scialfa: So my identity was…

There was no Melissa. You 

L. Scott Ferguson: know, I gotta ask you, you come from a family, okay, of entertainers that is used [00:07:00] to pleasing people that are out there. 

Melissa Scialfa: Yeah. 

L. Scott Ferguson: And the, what you just kinda said is 100% different than pleasing them, right? The, again it, the family that you come from is very well-established.

It’s, I’m not gonna say their names because- … we don’t need to do that, at the same time, like, how did you be the one that stepped outside of having to please everybody and then really lean in to serve people? ‘Cause you’re serving them in a different way- Yeah … with opera, with rock and roll- Yeah

with everything else, right? Yeah. 

Melissa Scialfa: Yeah. 

L. Scott Ferguson: So what was your, with you? 

I 

Melissa Scialfa: think my, my childhood was split, so you know, Mom and Dad split up and I grew up primarily under my mother, who was all about performance. And for her, that was the best she knew, and it was great. I had opportunity.

My mantra since I could walk was I could do anything I wanted. So I’m skiing by two, I’m racing by four, I’m d- I’m a s- diver in college, all these great things, but it was so performance-based. 

So I think I got out of the gate learning that if I [00:08:00] wanted attention, I wanted to feel enough, I wanted to fit- 

L. Scott Ferguson: That’s transparent.

Thank 

Melissa Scialfa: you. Yeah … I wanted to be loved- … heard by her, I was winning. 

L. Scott Ferguson: Right. 

Melissa Scialfa: And sometimes she’d even say, “God, Melissa, you’d make a great number two.” And as a child, when you hear that- I think she was trying to talk about my personality and my, and the, just the general heart I lead with, which was different than her.

But I took it as, “Oh my God, the minute I’m number one, I fall back into number two because I get in my head.” Ah. So it was this competition thing. 

L. Scott Ferguson: And when your parent tells you that, even if you construe it different ways, it’s sticks a little harder. 

Melissa Scialfa: It does.

L. Scott Ferguson: It does. Kids are told no an average of 135,000 times- Incredible … by the time they’re 12. 

Melissa Scialfa: Yeah. 

L. Scott Ferguson: Just imagine their negativity. Kids are born salesmen, right? They’re, “Oh, I want this candy.” Yeah. And, going through the aisle and stuff like that. And it’s just all programmed out of them.

And so when you’re told you’re number two, you almost lean into that- 

Melissa Scialfa: Yeah … 

L. Scott Ferguson: and believe it. At your journey what did that burnout of 25 years teach [00:09:00] you that corporate success never could? What did that burnout like- 

Melissa Scialfa: Yeah … 

L. Scott Ferguson: put front and center for you? 

Melissa Scialfa: There’s a very overused saying of, “Everything happens for you- Sure

not to you.” Absolutely. That’s the transition from being a victim of your own circumstances to owning it. 

Introduction: Sure. 

Melissa Scialfa: And I think it taught me that. Some of my gifts were fundamentally defined by the way I grew up. I learned how to read a room. I learned how to meet people where they are. I learned how to certainly navigate and give what others needed- from me to make sure that I could communicate and fit. 

Steve Austin (Show Sponsor): Right. 

Melissa Scialfa: Now, maybe the intention when I was younger was wrong, but, or misguided, but as I got older I was doing that- For the wrong reasons, right? Okay. To fit and to perform. But what it taught me when I burnt out was, wow, there’s a gift in there.

L. Scott Ferguson: Yeah. 

Melissa Scialfa: And I was born for this. 

Because I can. And had things been very [00:10:00] different, I wouldn’t be that woman. 

L. Scott Ferguson: Right. 

Melissa Scialfa: So it was really about just getting back in touch with myself to figure out where my worth was really coming from- … which means you have to give yourself grace and identify those gifts- Love that

before the world happens for you. 

L. Scott Ferguson: As I even tell my clients, give yourself grace and space. 100%. Take a step back. I’ve been told that on stage, when I’m about to go on stage, I’m throwing up in a bucket, oh my God. If that’s me, then that guy, you know- … getting ready, and like I have people reminding me “Fergie, you’re there.

Your intention is to help somebody today. Attach that to your confidence versus my capabilities.” Yeah. And I look out at an audience, I’m like, “What can I offer these people?” 

So you often talk about helping people break through their ceiling. 

Melissa Scialfa: Yeah. 

L. Scott Ferguson: In your experience, what creates that ceiling in the first place?

Do you think it’s fear, identity, habit, success, et cetera? What do you feel like it is? Yes. Yes, across the board. 

Melissa Scialfa: It is. It can be anything. It’s very personal. It’s whatever belief, and I, I- … I wanna step back. It’s about consciousness and unconsciousness, right? So we grew up with these beliefs we don’t even realize we have.[00:11:00] 

So we’re trying to create this life and create success and whatnot through what we know. And if we’re not conscious about what we really believe, then our brain can only help us from that construct, right? You can’t create something new from a confined construct. You have to step out of it.

Steve Austin (Show Sponsor): Sure. 

Melissa Scialfa: So I feel like upper limits, I’m so into Guy Hendricks right now and this Upper Limits book. Sure. But upper limits are about- People who know they’re meant for more, right? You, the perfect client for me is someone who knows there’s more, can’t navigate it because they can’t see it, and we help them become conscious and aware of it.

Once you’re aware of it, you can break through anything. 100%, 

L. Scott Ferguson: yeah. 

Melissa Scialfa: It could be enough-ness. It could be I didn’t know how to deal with fear. It could be perfection. 

L. Scott Ferguson: Sure. 

Melissa Scialfa: And it could be procrastination. It could be, like, maybe I had some kind of crazy event and when I spoke at the high school [00:12:00] play, everyone laughed.

Who knows what little things it is. That can 

L. Scott Ferguson: come up, 

Melissa Scialfa: right. But you don’t show up with that wound. You show up today as a powerhouse leader with the pattern you developed to cover and deal with that wound. 

L. Scott Ferguson: Love that. 

Melissa Scialfa: So- Oh my 

L. Scott Ferguson: gosh, that’s 

Melissa Scialfa: insane.

L. Scott Ferguson: Yes. 

Melissa Scialfa: So you’re not going back- … and doing therapy to fix the wound.

You’re saying, “How am I showing up today?” 

Checking out the pattern, becoming aware of it, taking accountability for it- 

L. Scott Ferguson: Yeah … 

Melissa Scialfa: crushing it- Yes … and creating a new pattern. 

L. Scott Ferguson: I love that. 

Melissa Scialfa: It- It’s like- 

L. Scott Ferguson: And Squad, we’re gonna follow up on these patterns- … in a second when we come back. But we’re gonna throw it to Steve Austin with the Rise Mortgage Team, my fantastic awesome sauce sponsor that I’m blessed to have.

Steve, take it away. 

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L. Scott Ferguson: Hey, Steve, thank you so much for the market update, and also I’m so blessed for your sponsorship and we’re back with my really awesome, soft friend Melissa Scalpo, just rockstar coach. She’s actually even put me through a little bit of one of her sessions, which is- … pretty awesome. You’d be remissed if you don’t hire her, I’ll tell you that right now.

But ambitious people, Melissa. 

Melissa Scialfa: Yeah. 

L. Scott Ferguson: What’s the biggest lie that you see ambitious people tell themselves that keep them stuck from reaching that next level that, and again, I know that we’re not rushing there, but what do you think is getting them stuck? 

Melissa Scialfa: Yeah. I [00:15:00] feel like ambitious people Tell themselves that they have to achieve and they forget about how to feel.

L. Scott Ferguson: Right. 

Melissa Scialfa: I- it’s a little woo, but they forget- It’s so true … we were talking about earlier. It’s a true woo. They forget about the joy of getting there. Yes. And if you constantly on the achievement, the next step, you’re missing all of that, and let’s face it, when you get to the next step, if you didn’t do the work to grow and become who you need to become, when you get there, you’re the same person.

So what did you really achieve? 

L. Scott Ferguson: Wow. 

Melissa Scialfa: You just achieved a piece of success. You didn’t change. 

L. Scott Ferguson: You didn’t grow. 

Melissa Scialfa: And so the- … next you- the universe is just gonna give you the- … same challenge, and you will be stuck- 

… 

Melissa Scialfa: Until you figure out, “I’m supposed to enjoy the journey.” 

L. Scott Ferguson: Yes. 

Melissa Scialfa: The joy, the fulfillment, the other things outside of work, right?

The 

L. Scott Ferguson: life. And enjoy the bad things that happen as 

Melissa Scialfa: well too. [00:16:00] 100%. 

L. Scott Ferguson: I don’t pray to God for calmer seas. I pray to him for wisdom to build a better sail. You know what I’m saying? Oh, that’s good. Yeah. Do you… So I can go. I took, stole that a little bit from Jim Rohn, but it’s the truth though. I 

Melissa Scialfa: like that.

Yeah. 

L. Scott Ferguson: It’s 100% true. So you the highly successful leaders that you worked for and with before, but then now you’re actually kinda coaching them, not coaching you are coaching them- … and they look like they have everything figured out, right? Yeah. So what is the most common internal struggle that you see the people that you’re coaching hiding from the world?

Melissa Scialfa: Oh, it is fear, and that shows up, I call it an imposter bully. People call it imposter syndrome. 

L. Scott Ferguson: Yeah. 

Melissa Scialfa: It’s not a syndrome. It is someone you created, and sometimes you just gotta thank them, ’cause they got you through hard times, but you probably created them at 13, 14, 15, 18. 100%, yes. That’s when you need them.

L. Scott Ferguson: Right. 

Melissa Scialfa: To bully you to get you through something. But- 

L. Scott Ferguson: So true … 

Melissa Scialfa: sometimes that imposter syndrome, when you step into something new, [00:17:00] or you actually start to give yourself the grace of enjoying the moment, it gets loud, and you have to say, “Bully, get in the backseat. Don’t touch the nav system.

Put your earphones on.” “I appreciate you for being here. I need you sometimes.” “But right now…” 

L. Scott Ferguson: I’m gonna enjoy it. 

Melissa Scialfa: Shut the hell up. 

L. Scott Ferguson: Little bit. Yeah, enjoy. 

Melissa Scialfa: Yeah, and I think that’s it. They just start to… On paper and on the outside, everybody sees them as successful. But they’re feeling this they’re feeling this desire for eh, ’cause if you’re not fulfilled it’s never enough, so what’s next? Or they’ve maxed out and can’t figure out how to scale, or they’re afraid to- Take the steps- Sure … into the uncertain. And a lot of highly I don’t wanna say ambitious, ’cause ambitious is a beautiful thing. 

Joel Malkin: It is. 

Melissa Scialfa: 100%. That is not a four-letter word.

Sure. It’s achievement. 

Overachieving, over-functioning, doing it for everyone- … to prove to yourself you can, to feel good. That’s the trap. 

L. Scott Ferguson: [00:18:00] Love it. Yeah. 100%. And it’s gotta feel authentic. That’s one thing that- Yeah … I’ve realized even with myself, and giving myself the grace and space to, to continue to level up, right?

Yeah. And again, the way that you were kinda brought up in life and of- not forced into performing, but like you’re just like, “Hey, you’re gonna perform.” 

Melissa Scialfa: Yeah. 

L. Scott Ferguson: So let’s get in that DeLorean with Marty McFly. You’ve seen Back to the Future, right? I have. Let’s go back to the double Ds. The 22-year-old Melissa.

What would you… With what you know now and, like, how you were raised what would you tell her to not change anything, ’cause your journey’s pretty awesome, right? Yeah. But to maybe help her shorten her learning curve or not believe some of the lies she was telling herself. 

Melissa Scialfa: Man I have to preface that with I was gifted with the ability to courageously run into my fear.

I lived hard and I experienced a lot, and I didn’t say no- … even though I was terrified inside. What I would’ve liked to tell her was, “You don’t have to carry it all alone.” 

And that’s not a trending word. [00:19:00] Literally, I wouldn’t ask for help until I was… found the solution- … and then I’d put it out there to validate.

And it takes a village. 

L. Scott Ferguson: Yes. 

Melissa Scialfa: And I was a warrior for too long. 

And I would say you don’t have to. You have a sovereign, you have a magician, you- 

L. Scott Ferguson: Sure … 

Melissa Scialfa: you have so much more to you. 

Lean into that. 

L. Scott Ferguson: And you’re almost… You’re, you’re- You’re the warrior, but you don’t turn it off 

Melissa Scialfa: I never turned it off 

L. Scott Ferguson: Right 

Melissa Scialfa: And it impacted everything- Yes

in my life. It infected- … infected- 

L. Scott Ferguson: Oh, yes … 

Melissa Scialfa: every relationship, ’cause I was just… I got over in my masculine. I was just a driving warrior where- Just going … failure wasn’t an option. W- imagine, just the energy. 

The energy of living like that- 

L. Scott Ferguson: Sure … 

Melissa Scialfa: is exhausting. So I would have helped her with that.

L. Scott Ferguson: This- 

Melissa Scialfa: And I would have told her how freaking awesome- Yeah. … life is and how awesome she is. 

L. Scott Ferguson: And that- So … and the love on yourself a little bit. Yeah. Instead of one of your family members used to yell, “Stick,” whenever something was going wrong in the [00:20:00] music, right? Yeah. “Do it again.

Stick.” Yeah. I love that, which was a great documentary, by the way. It is. Yeah, it was awesome. The one documentary that was about Jimmy Iovine, he’s my bucket list of sit in a room with. 

Melissa Scialfa: Okay. 

L. Scott Ferguson: What he did is just have him talk about business and his blinders and his focus. 

Melissa Scialfa: I love 

L. Scott Ferguson: it.

You often talk about p- helping people. Let’s talk about separating the leaders right now. What separates the leaders who continue growing from those who slowly become trapped in their own success, like feeling themselves too long, yeah. What do you see, and what are you doing to help them, embrace the journey, have fun in the journey, but still stay, for lack of a better term, motivated for that next peak?

Melissa Scialfa: I’m gonna say that I believe that energy is the most underutilized asset in leadership, and when we say leadership, I think it’s important to define everyone’s a leader. 

You can pretend you’re not a leader, but everyone’s a leader. Leaders mean… Leadership means how do you influence? 

And you have to influence yourself first.[00:21:00] 

L. Scott Ferguson: Right. 

Melissa Scialfa: And once you learn how to influence yourself, you can influence others. So you can be a leader at work, you can be a leader at home. Yes. But you are certainly a leader of yourself. How do you get out of bed in the morning? How do you make your bed? How do you go about your day? How do you take care of your body, your vitality, your relationships, and work- 

First of all? 

L. Scott Ferguson: Yes. So what separates- Thank you for saying this. Yeah. Yes. 

Melissa Scialfa: Cool. 

L. Scott Ferguson: Yeah, why would God give you something else, or your creator, if you’re not already taking care of- 

… 

L. Scott Ferguson: What you have? 

And it’s funny, my fiance Susan, like I’m looking at a new car and whatnot and I’m just…

I’m a cheap guy. I can easily buy one- … but I just do it. And, but then I like when I get down to the point before I don’t take care of what I have before I go buy a new one. 

Melissa Scialfa: Yeah. 

L. Scott Ferguson: She’s “Start taking care of this and you’ll get yourself something else.” It’s like- Wow … just take care of it.

Good advice. Right? Good advice. Yeah. So i- if someone is listening today, feels successful on paper, but knows deep down that something is missing, right? What’s the first conversation they need to have with themselves, [00:22:00] other than calling you? 

Melissa Scialfa: Yeah. Call me. There you go. We’ll talk about what it means to be conscious and recognize the patterns, but I think the first conversation honestly is to say, “What-” What will make me happy and grounded right now?

What will quiet the crazy noise that I have developed in my head that is telling me all the truths with a lowercase T that is making me feel like I’m ruminating, I’m a victim, I’m isolating- Yes … I’m stressed, I’m blaming, I’m anger- … I’m in a shame spiral. Whatever kind of catabolic energy stuff you’re telling yourself, get out of it, take a walk and say, “What is really true about happening right now?

What’s the capital T?” The absolute truth. The undeniable- Yes … global truths- … about what’s happening right now. ‘Cause people who tell 

L. Scott Ferguson: themselves stories are listening- 100% … more listening to the story- 100% … that’s being told to them, and people are renting space, re- or live in their head rent-free- 

And whatnot. That- … that, that’s awesome. So I had the canned [00:23:00] question, and I’m blessed that you listen to my podcast and the radio show. But how does Melissa Scalfa, how do you want your dash remembered? Like that little line- Oh, I love that … between your incarnation date and your expiration date, your life date and death date.

How does she want her dash remembered? 

Melissa Scialfa: I wanna be remembered as someone who lives uncaged. 

L. Scott Ferguson: Uncaged. 

Melissa Scialfa: I can have fear. I’m not fearless. I’m courageous, and I will be true to myself, and I will serve and contribute forever. 

L. Scott Ferguson: Love that. 

Melissa Scialfa: That’s my ambition. Until 

L. Scott Ferguson: the end. 

Melissa Scialfa: It’s meant forever. I 

L. Scott Ferguson: mean, that’s, that’s- Absolutely

exactly what, it’s something that, you know, I- ‘Cause people say, you give until it hurts so good. 

Melissa Scialfa: Yeah. 

L. Scott Ferguson: I am a terrible receiver, which I’m with a coach now- 

Melissa Scialfa: Yeah … 

L. Scott Ferguson: working on that reciprocation- It’s a whole story there … for me to re- yeah, so receive some. Maybe we’ll bring you on the pod and we’ll talk about- yeah

being, being a receiver. But for right now, the last couple minutes, the platform’s yours. How can we find you? 

Melissa Scialfa: We’re gonna put the URL in the show notes. Absolutely. Okay. So I’ll put a URL in the show notes. If anybody’s [00:24:00] feeling this call and s- feeling t- their heart’s screaming, “Yes, wow,” the URL will be in the show notes to book a call, 60 minute conversation to explore your patterns and leave with one to two, useful tips to- Love it

get you centered and see what fits. My email is melissa@melissascalfa.com. 

L. Scott Ferguson: Okay. 

Melissa Scialfa: I will spell my last name. Yes, 

L. Scott Ferguson: please. 

Melissa Scialfa: It’s S-C-I-A-L-F as in Frank, A. Scalfa. Ooh. So it’s melissa@melissascalfa.com. 

L. Scott Ferguson: Love that. And so what you’re offering then when they go to the, in the URL squad, when you get there, you’ll see it and I’ll- it’ll- I’ll la- label it Book Your Leadership Impact Audit.

Yeah. That’s what you offer them. Yeah. Is it complimentary? 

Melissa Scialfa: Absolutely. Is there… Okay. It’s just a ta- it’s a conversation to get to know each other and what an opportunity for most of the people listening, when do you ever get to explore how you’re feeling in a private judge-free zone where no one’s [00:25:00] shoving their solutions down your throat?

Love 

L. Scott Ferguson: it. I love it. Oh my gosh. That is you’re a coach. 

Melissa Scialfa: Yeah. 

L. Scott Ferguson: You’re not there to consult them. 

Melissa Scialfa: Not. 

L. Scott Ferguson: We all know- … what we want, we just don’t know how to talk ourselves- Yep … into it, and I think, like myself, your superpower is curiosity. So we’re gonna ask the questions- … that’s gonna bring it to the surface.

Melissa Scialfa: That’s right. 

L. Scott Ferguson: So leave us with one last knowledge nugget that you can, you want the squad out there to take with them, internalize, and take action on. 

Melissa Scialfa: Okay. When you shift from being unconscious, which is living in default- Oh … especially when you’re stressed. Yes. When you learn what the heck is going on in you and you’re aware of it- and then we can take accountability for it, your life will change because then you’ll choose how to show up. You won’t let your mind and body respond. 

L. Scott Ferguson: I love that. A- and squad it’s about giving yourself grace and space, taking control and it’s, everything’s unwritten for you, right? Yeah. So I wanna thank my awesome producer Brian Mudd.I wanna thank WJNO and then also the, my veterans, fellow veterans out there doing the [00:26:00] deed. Please be safe. Everybody have a great day. Love your guts.