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Time To ShineToday Podcast Varsity Squad. This is Scott Ferguson and we’re episode 285. And I am super just really super blessed to bring on Nick Loper from side hustle nation. The side hustle Show podcast. He is really helping people escape the rat race by bringing on people that are side hustling, making as extra income on the side and he interviews them and the the ideas in there I’ve actually picked up three ideas from his shows I’ve actually implemented into my own lifestyle. So I really could dig deep on his past and what brought them to where he’s at now and he was so open so give me this time even actually went over a little longer being a busy guy that he is so without further ado, here’s my really good friend Nick Loper the host of the side hustle show. Let’s level up time to shine today podcast. Firstly squat. This is Scott Ferguson and I have some completion Have I ever really said it too much before but I’ve just kind of a bated breath interview. There’s certain podcasts out there that I push play on, you know, every time and much my friend here Nick Lopers. Side Hustle nation podcast is something that’s absolutely fantastic. I give it’s given me ideas to pass on to my clients that are looking to do something on the side and maybe bring in some income. And again, his name’s Nick Loper and he helps people earn money outside of their day job. He’s an author of a bazillion books, it seems like if you go to his Amazon page, which I’ll put in the show notes, he’s got a bunch of books and there will be a free book giveaway at the end, so make sure you listen. Again. He’s an author, online and entrepreneur and host of the award winning side hustle Show podcast, which features new part time business ideas each week as chief side hustler at side hustle nation.com He loves deconstructing the tactics and strategies behind building in extra income streams. And Nick I’m so blessed thank you for so much for coming on. Please introduce yourself to the time to shine today podcast varsity squad. But first, what’s your favorite color? And why?

Pay for it color green, green? Why? I reminds me of nature camping, hiking as a kid looking out, even as, as built up as this area suburban Seattle has become you can still go out in the middle of the lake and look over the hills and they’re still green all year round.

It’s like side hustling can almost be like a rebirth with kind of coordinates with green right. But you know, also, if you’re caught up caught a fish over a pikes was it Pikes

Peak Hill Pike Place? I haven’t done it.

It’s kind of I mean, I got my video of me catching it for strikes. It was good times. Good times. So Nick, before we kind of dig in to the podcast and what you do for people to earn that side income, can you give us a little background of kind of where you started and worked your way up the ranks and start to thrive helping others?

Yeah, so my original side hustle, we started even kind of before graduation, it was a what morphed into a comparison shopping site for footwear, where we pull in the catalogs from Zappos, and Amazon and you know all these other footwear retailers. And we’ll tell you where you can find the best price for your next pair of shoes, and all these cool like product level coupon integrations that would bake into the price. And we’d earn affiliate commission on on any sale that was generated through the site. So that was my original side hustle that was like three years nights and weekends while working corporate to get up to the point where I felt comfortable giving my notice at work. Ran that for several more years started a bunch of projects on the side. Most of those projects for full disclosure were abysmal failures. A couple of them stick around and one of those was the side hustle Show podcast and the Sign Up Foundation blog.

What did you launch the side hustle podcast? 2013 2013 Wow. And people that come on? No, no, I you know, I just turned 50 You know, so I I just launched my podcast in 2019 at the end of 2019. Yeah. It again it was it’s my squad dose. It was something that I did selfishly because I wanted to you know, I’m an executive coach and whatnot. I wanted to pick up steps from other people that are helping people but it just morphed into something more people like started promoting it and it was just got crazy like I do yours. You know. The podcasting is absolutely phenomenal. And your show it Do people apply to come onto your show, Nick or is it something you see someone doing something you read? Shout to them say, Hey, you want to be a guest?

A combination of both. So I get a ton of inbound, you know, PR pitches where typically, if the person can afford a PR person, you’re not going to be a great fit for the show, like, you know, oh, so and so you know, New York Times bestselling author of like, cool, but not necessarily relevant. I do accept a bunch of inbound pitches through side hustle nation.com/pitch If you’re a guest, like always on the hunt for, you know, interesting, compelling side hustle stories typically start with the, the hook or the angle. Okay, what’s the story that we want to tell? What do I what am I curious about? What do I want to learn more about and then go find somebody doing that thing? Who’s going to be a good fit to tell that story? And then, you know, either search in the community search, kind of like, who do you know, like, ask for recommendations, and try and find interesting people that way. Found a couple of interesting people on Twitter recently, including at squeegee God, and Johnny Robertson, who I interviewed him on his last day of college had built this window washing business to $700,000. It was really, really inspiring, like, Man, I wish I was as entrepreneurial as you at that age. I think he’s gonna go far. Right? So

you worked corporate, what

did you do? So I was at the bottom rung of the Ford Motor Company ladder interface with their dealers on the service and parts side of their business. It was, you know, one part sales one part, customer service, one part consulting, and it was, it was cool, like, I don’t know, had a company car driving around the car. The car business is a fascinating business. I just had no desire to climb the corporate ladder there.

Where were you living when you worked for Ford,

first in DC, or outside of DC, Northern Virginia than in Atlanta than in Northern California. Okay, their, their theory early on, I don’t know if they still do this, but their theory at that time was like, we’re gonna like, you know, take these college grads, and we’re gonna, like, move as far away from home as possible. So there’ll be like, they won’t have any friends outside of work. So they’ll be like, super loyal to the company. So what ended up happening, which was true, like, you know, those were the my co workers or the people that I hung out with on the weekends, but it was a lot of, you know, a lot of free time at the apartment like, Okay, well, let’s, let’s try and build up this shoe thing.

That’s what I was just going to ask like, what launched that idea into Site, site, house hustle nation, like, was it you guys were kind of bored, because sounds to me, like I’ve been to the Google campus. And it’s like, they do everything they can to keep those people together and creating and whatnot, and they just hang out with each other. And it also reminds me the show Silicon Valley, which is one of my favorite shows where they all just got to hang out together. Is it just a few you guys sitting around? Whoa, man, this we’re so far away from home up each other out? We have and just start to think of things to do on the side.

Yeah, I don’t know that anybody else was doing that stuff. Okay. You know, we would, you know, we’d hang out at the bar, and we’d watch college football. And, you know, you do that for a few weekends. And you’re like, Okay, this more cost a lot of money. This is not great for my health. I don’t care about 90% of these games. There’s got to be a better use of my time. So that’s what I started, like, you know, doubling down on the business, you know, going on long bike rides, just trying to I don’t know, it was cool to hang out. And I was grateful to like, get the invite as like the new guy, the new hire, but it was, you know, it didn’t didn’t really serve like the long term goals.

Do you ever go to the glass house in Dearborn, Michigan ever? Or do you do everything remote?

Yeah, we did some training out in Dearborn. Dearborn in

Yeah, right there. Yeah, I’m from Michigan. So I grew up there. And like Ford, GM and Chrysler is in my blood. My dad worked for General Motors for 30 years. So

yeah, we still are out there. It’s okay. And it’s a different world like little bubble where imports don’t really exist. It’s like, gotcha. You get off the airport. You’re like, oh, yeah, market share here compared to the market share everywhere else.

I live in South Florida, where it’s foreign carnation and I only will drive American. You know, they give me a little bit of crap down here. If you’d like to go get your Benz I’m like, No, I got my 300 I got my Mustang. I am good. You know, because my that that keeps my dad talking to me. So, which is good, but Okay, so you had a corporate job, you’re making a living, you’re building this side hustle. And when were you able to get to a point to say you know what, I can do this full time.

So for me, I wanted to see a track record of revenue going back six to 12 months that was at least covering my monthly expenses and maybe track record of revenue is incorrect track record of bottom line profit, like how much how much are we actually making from this thing? Right. I think a lot of people put the pressure on themselves to like why do I need to Please, my salary is like, well, that would be great. And it’s like really impressive when people can do that, while still working full time they build their side hustle. So it’s like, you know, outpace their day job. And that’s when I, that’s when I knew it was time to quit, like, you know, golf clap like, you know, congratulations, yeah. But as long as you’re living below your means, I think if you’re covering your expenses, then you know, you’re at least not going to go backwards, make sure you have a little bit of runway, saved up safety net, you know, buffer in savings, should anything go wrong. But the reason that I felt comfortable doing that was because we were living below our means. And I thought with an extra 5060 hours a week to dedicate to the business, so I can easily get it to that point and beyond. And this kind of what happened early on, you said we are partners, I say we had like an outsourced development team beautiful at that point. But it was, it was mostly the collective we then eventually hired a admin or kind of virtual assistant person out with that to

do the same thing. Absolutely. That’s awesome. So when did you have the itch, for lack of a better term to really roll out? Getting people interested in having a side hustle?

Yeah, so this is five years into full time self employment. For me. So I’ve been doing this shoe thing for a long time, started a bunch of other projects that, you know, really only one of them had worked at that point. A lot of them are was showing signs of life. The rest hadn’t really worked. But it was kind of at a low point in the shoe business where you kind of start asking a lot of the same questions that I’ll turn around and ask side hustle show listeners, like, you know, what do you never get tired about talking about? What lights you up? What, you know, what do you want to be known for when somebody Google’s you. And for me, this idea of deconstructing different business ideas really played into my natural curiosity, they’d been running a personal blog at that time that nobody ever read. But some of the most fun content that I had created was around that idea of like, trying to figure out the business model of restaurant.com, or some of these, like, you know, Penny Auction bidding sites that were popular at the time that were easy. Just, like, wait a minute, you know, where did the money come from, like, restaurant.com, for example, I think it’s still on the first page of Google, like this blog post that I wrote years and years ago. Southwest business select, like a creative upsell that like, cost them, you know, basically nothing like they pour you like a free drink, and they charge you an extra 100 bucks on your ticket. It’s a fantastic ROI. I love all of that stuff. And you know, pointing the mic at other people for the podcast was a chance to, you know, explore that with other with other entrepreneurs, like, okay, you don’t have to be the end all be all guru on this stuff. Like, okay, you, you were able to quit your job cool. You’ve been medium, medium successful. It’s not a million dollar business, but are you know, it doesn’t have to be other people can tell their stories. And that was kind of the the lightbulb moment. And that’s what I that’s what really took off more more, much more so than the written content.

It’s such a Go Giver mentality. Man, that’s awesome that you’re giving other people a platform. And I love that you say, you’re not looking for the people that have really, quote unquote, I did this in air quotes, if you’re not watching a video that they haven’t made it, right, they’re building in, they’re actually got they’re in the trenches. And I’ve got to ask you, people that you interview, you don’t have to name them. But I’m just curious, have you ever used any of the side hustles that you’ve interviewed in your own life?

Yeah, for sure. Like last time, they don’t really cool pieces of the site. That’s almost like I’ll, you know, I’ll be the guinea pig. I’ll experiment with this stuff. I had all these plans to be, you know, sign up to be a Lyft driver and like, report back on how this works. But early on, I was selling stuff on Fiverr selling stuff on eBay, Amazon, like inspired by guests creating the course like doing the self publishing thing. I’ve done a little bit of before, but like learning from other people who had done it. Yeah, that was a big part of the okay and early on, like these little experiments and still is to a certain extent today to report back on what works but really kind of applying it more so on like the SEO online business front email marketing front these days.

I love that. I love it. So when you’re say how can I ask this? Let me ask you this.

Have you seen the movie Back to the Future? Yeah, long time ago.

Okay, let’s get that delorey with Marty McFly. All right. Let’s go back to the double Deuce a 22 year old Nick Loper. What kind of knowledge nuggets as we call them your attention today? What kind of knowledge nuggets would you be dropping on the 22 year old Nick to maybe help them level up last year and shorten the learning curve just a little bit?

I don’t know if 22 year old Nick would have taken my advice like you’d be either. Pretty smart. I wish I was happy smart now as I was at 22 Oh yeah, that’s a good question. I mean, the, one of the biggest realizations or revelations was okay, you don’t have to go at it alone, like somebody else has probably already solved these problems. Like I was very, I was very, like, heads down, like trying to do my own thing. Instead of like, looking up looking for answers, trying to figure it out, maybe who, not how, in a lot of ways where it’s like, okay, if I could get some mentorship or peer accountability earlier on, I think that would have been really powerful. I didn’t discover mastermind groups, probably for another 10 years after that. And I think that would have been really helpful to have earlier on, because it was like, you know, it was still doing side businesses at that time. And just, you know, was very felt very isolated in a way, bro,

that is such a strong knowledge. And I get that, you know, I call it getting your asking here, right? You don’t have to be alone. You can go ask. And there’s people, it’s called, you know, his story for a reason. There’s people that have left bread trails of crumbs that can answer your questions. There’s actually people still breathing air, they can answer your questions. You don’t have to be alone. That’s amazing, man that thank you for saying that. So how does Nick want is dashed? Remember that little line in between your incarnation date, your expiration date, your life date, your death date? How does Nick one is dashing?

Hopefully, as a as a good husband and father and somebody who helps some people out, start their own businesses and exercise a little bit of financial independence in their lives.

That’s awesome. Man. That’s been fantastic. So what keeps Nick up at night?

Oh, gosh, lots of macro. Concerns about Yeah, global geopolitical, drama and embroiled climate disaster and the increasing polarization in absolutely every category of everything. I don’t know how we, I don’t know how we dial back that where we could find some middle ground. If we zoom out, like, we all want the same thing. A healthy planet, we, you know, a positive future for our kids. Right. So it’s like, it just it boggles my mind how we just have gotten to this point of, yeah, you know, everything has to be fought over. And it’s like, Ah, no, it’s kind of I’m, it’s scary, like, I do lose sleep over it.

I’m right there with you. With regards to the the macro stuff, like the micro stuff, I’ve had to teach myself through the years. And I’m pretty good at that. Shut it down. You know, I’m like, There’s nothing I can do about it right now. But the macro stuff that, that oversees everything, and I only drink out of class. You know, it’s like the I tried to do my part, to make sure it’s right in without preaching too much helping other helping other people along to do their part. But you’re right, man, there’s so many concerns with where we’re at, especially in this day and age and the past 27 months. It’s just been, I mean, it’s been going on a long time before that, but this past seven months, it’s just been outrageous for Yeah, that’s the right term. It’s it’s been, it’s been crazy. So, what do you think people then misunderstand the most about Nick?

I don’t know if you’re, like, pretty transparent on the show. Like, I’ll meet people at events, and they’re kind of like, maybe they’re surprised like how quiet I am in real life, right? Because I gotta get up for the show. What’s up? What’s up Nick Loper here. Welcome to this add also show, right? And because it’s like, it’s audio only, like you got to bring some energy. And it’s not to say like, I’m not energetic in person, but I’m more just, you know, try and listen in and what else is going on? So I’m not always I think people are sometimes surprised. Like, you sound like just like you do on air. But I get that. But I also get the Oh, you’re quieter than you are. Or you’re taller than I expected. Oh, do I sound short? No, it’s always fun to meet listeners in real life.

It’s funny because I could listen to you. It episode after episode after episode. I couldn’t listen to me. After I’ve been it’s not because I don’t like hear my own voice. It’s just I’m up. And I’m up all the time. It’s crazy. I go in. I’m the big Midwestern guy hugs everybody and, and that’s just me, but like you you just you do and it’s this is a compliment. Don’t think you need to think we’re about you have this voice that soothing that keeps people tuned in. You feel me? So it’s like that is a gift that you have that you are blessed with. And that’s just fantastic, man. It’s awesome. I mean, I can listen to episode after episode. And it’s like it never get boring, but it doesn’t feel like I have to be like, like, I’m sure people are with my shows which is fine. Good, but I’m just being authentic and I’m being me. You know, I feel

like years and years of podcasts and listening has made me talk fast. You’re, you’re like 15 years ago, I hopefully a little slow drawl and I was living in Atlanta. So I was picking up like, a local drawl and go home for Thanksgiving in Seattle. My family be like, who are you? But I think years of listening to podcasts like 1.5 or 2x has made me like, speak faster. And then you ever listened to somebody show, even if you listen to the side hustle show, if you listen to it, one acts up, like, just kind of asleep. I do the same thing with like, Pat Flynn, like, oh my gosh, he sounds so tired. You used to do it at 1.7 or something and everybody’s gonna sound tired.

You know, I wrote around the South Florida podcasters Association down here. Right. And there’s like, 300 members right now. Barely.

a hotspot for podcast. Yeah. Jared, from Podcast Movement is

Yeah. Chris Christie Ramos. You know, we got Alex Sanfilippo from pod match. I mean, it’s, it’s here. And, like, I there’s, I think there’s probably 150 people in the room. And it was like, I’m, well, I’m the president. But I actually was speaking that night. And I’m like, we’re gonna listen to an episode of the side hustle nation. And I want feedback, right. And all of them said that you were the most well spoken. And you had the best pauses. Meaning like when you say stuff you don’t ramble. Do you say stuff you stop? You say stuff, stop. And that’s a gift. Again, I’ve been interviewing people since 1999. Right, you know, on the radio, not just podcasting, podcasting on it since 19. So I’ve been interviewing people for 20 years. And you’re the best pause in was it?

Was it intro that you were listening to or like mid interview?

It was we listened to about 20 to 23 minutes of it? Oh, I forget which one it was. I’ll have to I’ll send you which one it was. I have to look back at my notes. Because

yeah, it’s like super nerve wracking to have a room full of people like to

Yeah, they listen to mine, dude. It’s like, shoot, man, did I bring it? You know, so it’s funny, but we’ll just pull it it was my turn to pick and we listened to one from you. And then one from Travis chapels. podcast, which was fantastic as well. So

I worked with a that’s funny, I worked with a podcast coach for a while. And, you know, we, we were heavily working on kind of like, the intro is like, how can we make this tighter? How can we sell this? How can we make this like, choose somebody who’s already choosing chosen to like, download this thing? But like, how can we make them tune in, like taking cues from terrestrial radio? Like coming up after the break? You know, we’re doing it like, right, and he said, the most powerful thing that you have as a host? Is that dead air is that pause? And so trying to like try to slow me down because like, truth be told, almost all of the intros today are pre scripted. And so you really trying to, you know, within 45 to 60 seconds, like, Okay, what’s in it for me? What are you gonna learn? You know, here’s why this guest is worth paying attention to. And he’s trying to get right into it. And that’s definitely evolved over time. But he was he was somebody who embraced the dramatic pause

in you’re good. You’re good. I mean, just accept the compliment, because you are really good at it. Thank you really good at it. So let me ask you something like. Let’s take out of the equation, any like anything. electronical no laptops, no books, no phones, or no? Laptops, notebooks, phones? Why? What are three things that Nick can’t live without?

No electronics. That’s hard to think that’s right. I think humans are almost infinitely adaptable. Yeah. Sounds like well, you know, you figure out a way something that actually gets to mine, a friend of mine, former mastermind member of mine turned me on to wear these like resistance bands. So use that super lightweight to pack up when you travel. To do like resistance training. So those are something like 40 bucks or something for a setup. Um, like it was a huge investment. I guess this is electronic. But it’s like an E bike that I bought a couple of good and it’s like, Okay, fine. You know, your legs work just fine. It could be it could be a regular bike, but I find myself using that for the transportation more than recreation like for local trips. Yeah, I think that’s been that’s been really helpful. Other things things things things. With this is kind of a silly one. I actually picked this up from Brian Harris from formerly video group and our growth tools. I think he was like, just every every Facebook post of his for like, a month was like about the virtues of stretchy jeans. And I was like, they it makes stretchy jeans for guys. I’m sure they do. And they’re like, by far are way more comfortable than whatever they had like Bidar Yeah, it’s a game changer. Game Changer. If you haven’t gone on the stretching. You know, women have had these for a decade or two. Probably longer. It’s like, oh, I’m actually way more comfortable.

And I’m six one I’m 260 and there’s jeans that fit me perfectly for the the stretchy jeans are also my fiance brought me some I’m like, and I put them on like, oh my gosh, I felt like I was wearing pajamas. So comfortable. That’s awesome. So Nick, what is your definition of a life well lived

life well that you know, being able to have control of your calendar is the biggest thing for me. And that was my biggest pain point with work in corporate America was you know, having to ask permission to take time off and my boss was never the guy who like said no, it just felt weird to have to ask. So just having control of your time is a life well lived and then having the freedom to spend that time in a way that serves you serves your family serves others,

man. That’s awesome. Time to shine today podcast. Firstly, squad, we are back and I got Nick Loper and, Nick. I’m gonna hook up with Nick one time I’m going to talk to him about a few of these questions in person where we can talk 1520 minutes, but Nick, you got five seconds to answer the questions with no explanation. So you’re ready to level up and they can all be answered that way. You’re ready. I’ve seconds. Five seconds they can all be done. Let’s rock. Okay, what is the best leveling up advice Nick’s ever received?

Pay attention to what’s working for other people?

Yes. share one of your personal habits contributes to your success.

Consistency.

Beautiful. You see me walking down the street. Man. Fergie’s looks like he’s a little bit in his doldrums other than your books, what book would you hand me?

4000 weeks.

Never heard of it. Who’s that by

you can expand. I don’t know the author. For this recently recorded the concept is that everyone has 4000 weeks of life on the average lifespan. And so it really puts it into perspective. And what’s cool about this is it’s not a traditional productivity book that I expected when I picked it up. It’s a lot more on the mindset of letting go up the entire, like world of possibilities that you want to have on your bucket list and you see everybody doing on social media. No, realistically, you’re never going to be able to do that stuff. So enjoy the moment focus on what’s right in front of you. That was helpful for me, but it’s like always like there’s never enough time to do all the things.

Robert Downey put that in the show notes, please. Thank you. What’s your most commonly used emoji when you text?

The laugh crying?

Love it. Nicknames growing up.

Just Loper or a friend of mine call me sponge?

Student chess or checkers?

I don’t know. Probably. Chess is more intellectually stimulating but checkers haven’t played either in a long time.

Ice cream flavor. Go go to ice cream flavor.

Cookie dough.

Beautiful. There’s a Loper sandwich named after you what’s on the sandwich?

Okay, there’s no bread on this sandwich. And it’s probably just a Shake Shack burger. Exactly.

So you have a time machine. You can either go 20 years in the future, or 20 years in the past which one you’re going

oh gosh. Well, we talked about the future might look at a scary 20 years. I don’t want to miss the kids growing up either. Like they’re gonna be mid 20s by then. So I guess I have to go backwards.

Beautiful, beautiful, favorite charity and organization like to give your time or money to

sign us donation is a 1% for the planet member. So trying to be a better steward of this only home that we all share.

Excellent. Love it. Love it. Last question. The best deck any music 60s 70s 80s or 90s 90s 90s? All right. Love it. I may ask your age, Nick.

Tell them I’m a millennial. So it’s all nine days like Pro Tem there’s all sorts of good stuff in the 90s

Yeah, I grew up with the 80s with the big hair don’t care. I was born in 72. So I was like it’s the 80s rolled in. I graduated in 90 so that yeah, jam. But when I went in the military and I was in Iraq and Afghanistan, it was all Nirvana and other garage bands and the grunge bands and it was our jam, you know? That’s awesome. So Nick, how can we find you my friend?

Side Hustle nation.com Maybe site or something saying that calm slash ideas is a good place to start. If you’re kind of on the sidelines looking for some creative inspiration there. Of course, we’d love to have you tune in to the side hustle show in your favorite podcast app. We’re closing in on 500 episodes. Inspiring case studies. Been there done that entrepreneurs how they got it done.

Love it. Tell me a little bit about this book the $1,000 100 ways people make real money.

Yeah, this was crowd sourced from the side hustle nation community when they figured out a way to showcase some of the cool businesses. Are people that readers and listeners we’re working on? And it’s broken into kind of a parallel format, where everybody answers the same set of questions. How do you come up with that idea? How do you get your first traction or customers? What else has worked to market? The business? What? How much did it cost to get started? What mistakes have you made along the way? What do you do differently? And where you go, and what’s next? So it kind of follows that you can kind of pair compare apples to apples across all the different case studies in there.

Wow. And it’s 300 pages too. So I mean, you put a lot of information there. Hmm. Love. It’s a fun,

fun one to read. Yeah. And you’ll see some of the surprising stuff that came back. Oh, that’s really creative.

I love it in squad, I’m going to give away not only that book, but probably two of his other books. Which I’ll pick those out. But the first person that puts side hustle in any of the comments and then universe Social, I’m going to actually purchase the book and and send it to Nick. And if Nick if you don’t mind signing it and sending it out. That’d be fantastic. I’ll pay for the postage, whatever needs, but I’ll purchase the book and send it out for him. To Nick, you might do in that sign in it for us.

Yeah, we can make it happen.

Awesome. I love it. I love it. Man. That’s fantastic. In squad we have had just me mix given up Wow, 10 minutes over the time that we had allotted. You know, a guy that was in corporate America didn’t really it wasn’t really feeling it had a lot of downtime. So he started setting up these comparison shop sites and he saw, you know, a way for him to kind of break out from that awesome sauce rat race that he was talking, you know, he liked to deconstruct business ideas, which when he started to do that started opening up the creative side of his mind, and then he starts paying it forward by bringing people onto the show that are doing side hustles that in earning money like real money, that help them in possibly even break away from his guests real work which like also, he passes it on to you with the knowledge and acts to help you break away as well. You know, he will be remembered, actually, he he wants to remind you don’t go it alone. There are people that are there in your present because so many people have a foot in the future foot in the past and they pee all over the present. Pay attention in your present. Get your asking your there are people there to help you. You know, he’ll be remembered as a good husband, a great teacher that really had a passion for exercising financial independence. You know, and he wants in life well lived. And Nick is someone that has controlled the time and with control the time have that freedom to spend the time with the people they love, go places they want to be in it. Nick is just a fantastic human being. He’s so well spoken his podcast again. I don’t miss an episode. He levels up his health. He levels up his wealth. He’s humble yet he’s very hungry for better and thriving and helping you thrive.

So Nick, thank you so much for coming on the show. I love your guts, brother. I can’t wait to meet you in person, hopefully at pod fest here in a couple months, brother.

All right. Very good. Thanks so much, man.

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