058-From Fighting Some Serious Demons to Building a Multi-Million Dollar Pizza Empire – Interview with Nick Bogacz

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Welcome to Episode 58.  From humble beginnings and fighting some personal demons Nick Bogacz persevered and built a multi-million dollar pizza empire.  If you are ‘stuck’ this episode is for you! Enjoy!


Whatever you do, no matter what level you are at.  Always be happy!

– Nick Bogacz

Knowledge Nuggets and Take-Aways

1. When you can, make someone’s problems your advantage (only if it will serve both sides)

2. When you are in a lull, remember your roots.  Go back and remember your work ethic that got you to where you are at and pull from there!

3. If you find yourself unfocused, go and find a big goal to get unstuck 

Level Up! 

Fergie

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Speech Transcript

Unknown Speaker  0:00  

Hey, this is Nick bro gasm Killian pizza Drafthouse and if you really want to learn how to level up your life, you should be listening to the time to sign today podcast with my friend Scott Ferguson.

Unknown Speaker  0:11  

Hey, time to shine today varsity squad at Scott Ferguson. And I have the pleasure to bring to you an interview I did with my good buddy Nick Bogot’s. He is the founder of Kellyanne a pizza and draft house. It’s up in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. I know it’s a it’s kind of crazy that you would think somebody is gonna interview a pizza guy. But I’ll tell you what his story is inspiring. His story will move you he had the doldrums and fought demons in his life. He has solid solid family support that got him through. He’s going to give you some serious knowledge nuggets about getting unstuck or if you’re fighting your own demons. He’s going to give you knowledge that gets a setting huge goals and always leveling up. So without further ado, here’s my interview with my friend Nik Bogot’s

Unknown Speaker  1:12  

Hey, time to shine podcast squad. It’s Scott Ferguson and I got a friend of mine from up north in Pittsburgh. That makes the best pies in town. And I cannot wait to introduce you to Nick Bouygues. Did you know that Americans consume an average of 350 pizza slices every second, with 3 billion pizza sold in the US every year? Well, our president and founder of Kellyanne a pizza and Drafthouse, Nick bogus. He’s also the host of the business equation podcast, author of the best of the pizza equation sorry, the author of the pizza equation, member of the world pizza champions team, keynote speaker and extreme team builder while that’s some serious serious credentials, so I’m gonna bring you on here and introduce yourself to the time to shine, podcast squad. And also tell us your favorite color and why.

Unknown Speaker  2:10  

Thanks, God, I’m glad to be here. I have to say my favorite color is green because it means go.

Unknown Speaker  2:17  

Go, go, go. I love it. I love it. And so tell us a little bit about your origins. I mean, you’re a pretty big hitter up there in Pittsburgh. You just told me you kind of compete with bramante brothers. Tell us your origins of getting started as a young tyke and working your way up through the we’ll call it the pizza business, if you will. Sure. Absolutely.

Unknown Speaker  2:36  

So I started off when I was 17. I was washing cars and my buddy was delivering pizzas and he said, Hey, I’m making work. They were making way more tips than you. So I said, Okay, I’ve got to try this pizza delivery thing. And I just fell in love with the team atmosphere of it. But my first Friday on the job, I wrecked my car, and thought that might be short lived with my mother. Let me borrow her car, and I started delivering again. And then about three months later, I wrecked another car. And, you know, being a young 17 year old kid, and I said, I just love the pizza business, because always being a sports fan and active in sports. And I have two younger brothers and I was always the skinny kid, which amounts to one thing, and that’s coach. So I was always the coach of their sports teams, and they were fairly good and always active. So I was learning a lot of young leadership values at an early age. I didn’t even realize it, coaching there for hockey teams and baseball teams and stuff like that. And then falling in love with the team atmosphere of the pizza business and then working my way up to a manager and then you fast forward to about 28 when I was 20 years old, and I found out I was gonna have a kid and my wife and I we at that time my girlfriend and I we got married, and I decided if I’m going to do pizza full time, I’ve got to move up to management jobs. I left the place I was at for four years and got a General Manager’s position and cut my teeth there for a while and then found out about it 22 we’re going to have another kid. So I was like, yeah, right and I you know, just a young kid, you know what I mean? Just like growing up and that was a lot of it. And at the same time, you know, I didn’t go to college. I became a shift leader and I think like maybe 18 so I kept saying, Well, I don’t what do I need to go to this college thing for a manager at 18 I’ve got you know, I know everything. And I mean that really was the start of the pizza business and then I worked my way all through the big guys the the Papa John’s a Domino’s I am found out early on when I had the two kids that were at this Papa John’s in Pittsburgh, there was only four in Pittsburgh and there was 10 in Ohio and it was part of a franchise group and we would drive out to Ohio once a month for this meeting. And every time we go to the meeting the for Pittsburgh guys drive out in the car together, we get there and they say, hey are Youngstown’s up 10% clap for art. Next time they’d say, Joe from astable is up 15% clap for him. And then this would go on every single meeting. And that’s what our meetings were like. And what happened was one of these meetings were driving up the guys who are all older than me. And they said to me, they said, Hey, the supervisors talking about firing you because your ovens dirty, your walls are, are dirty, and I’m thinking, Man, I’m working like 90 hours a week, I’ve got two kids at home. This job means everything to me. That’s when I had an epiphany, that sales fixes everything. So I read the guerilla marketing book by Jay 11. See, and I can’t say that anything in particular stuck out to me, but the mentality did. So we go to the next meeting and they say, hey, Nick in Pittsburgh’s up 10% clap for Nick the next meeting. Next up 20% clap for Nick, the next meeting. Nick’s up 45% Nick, tell everybody what the hell you’re doing and really well. Was his I went to the school board and I talked to school board into having school lunches. I talked to the PTA for football games, got in the concession stand selling pizzas, got into the basketball stadium selling pizzas, and really just was selling. The strategy was where can I sell the most pizzas at once? And that’s what I was going after. So after that got built up, Domino’s took notice of me and I said, Look, I don’t want to go anywhere. I’ve got all these record weeks and everything. And Domino’s was pretty persistent. They gave me a business card, the business card burned a hole in my pocket. And for the next five years, I worked for dominance. And they moved me out to Wilkes bear which Pennsylvania, Pittsburgh on the east side, or on the west side of the state and Wilkes Barre is on the northeast side, which is about five hours away, might as well be another state. And I cut my teeth out there. And I was there till about 27. We were there for a year. And I like to say in the beginning, I would say that we got homesick and that’s why we Back with the real truth of it was, is, at that point I had a real bad drug and alcohol addiction. And I what my wife moved back home, took our two kids, you know, and I was left there with. I quit the job because I was moving back home and I said, All right, so I’ve got no job, no kids, no wife, no car, because she took the one car we had and I didn’t even have a cell phone. And you know, I just it was one of those moments I had that it was like, I’ve got to change everything. And you know, over the next few months, I moved back I counseling found the right room. And I could say in October will be 15 years clean and sober. gratulations

Unknown Speaker  7:36  

Nick, thank you.

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So then I get a lot of pressures once I moved back and trying to fix up my relationship with my wife and we’re going to celebrate 20 years here in July. And you know, so everything worked out perfect, but it was one of those things where everybody when you work in a pizza business or in the restaurant business, a lot of times you get dog with you don’t have a real job. And that’s definitely what I was getting done. Right then and I always was that guy worked 8090 hours a week and that was a lot of it. And when I came back, I went for a gig seminar radio advertising. And you know, I had a great question that I love for interviews and it’s when they asked you Do you have any more questions left? I love to ask. Yes. Is there any reason you wouldn’t hire me? I think that’s a great question. And she’s she said, Well, yeah, you’re in the pizza business and we don’t know why we would hire you to sell radio and then I started telling her about all the school board meetings I went to and how I sold pizzas for school lunches and she’s like, Oh, you can sell pizza like that? Sure. You can sell radio for so for the next six months, I sold radio and I just hated it. I hate it the anybody that can do cold calling. I bless him up I just can’t do it. And I I said you know what? I want to get back into pizzas and I started delivering it to a buddies of mine and went full circle started delivered and then he had two shops I started delivering to two shops. Then I was delivering at a third shop. This is probably 2007 to 2009 10 ish. And so I’m working about 7080 hours a week delivering pizzas made enough to buy a house for 170,000 just from delivering pizzas. And you know, just just work it and then

Unknown Speaker  9:15  

then I was going a lot more pressures, but getting a real job again. And I took the mailman post office test and I passed and I became a mailman and this is like, that’s 2009 and I kept my it was the It’s kind of crazy story, you know, kind of tell kind of quick for you. But it’s there’s a lot to it. And then what happened in 2009 was I started delivering the mail, but I also kept my three delivery jobs. And because it was like part time sometimes it was 20 hours a week to mail sometimes it was 50 It all depends. So what I was working at the post office a guy said to me, Hey, you seem reliable. Would you like to count money in the Civic arena where the Pittsburgh Penguins play be in the count room count all the money at night? Nice. Yeah, sure. I don’t do anything at night. So then I had five jobs I had those five jobs for the next three, three years. I I worked 8090 hours a week five jobs a week five, you know, just crazy. And then what happened was the Papa John’s and I was at delivering pizza said, Hey, we know that you are we have a reputation as a sales builder and a quick fixer and we want you to run our store. And they actually were going to fire my my friend that was me. He was still a Papa John’s from we went to these meetings back in 2001. And I said, there’s no way I’m gonna take his job, you know, I’m just not gonna do it. He’s my friend. And fast forward like nine months after they replaced them. They can be said, we’re gonna replace the guy who replaced him and I said, Well, he’s not my friend. So, so I said, Sure. I’ll take the general manager’s job. But look, I’ll quit my other four jobs I guess at the time, but I’ll keep the post office job. And you can never tell me how many hours I can work because I can’t work 8090 hours a week. I am working 40 at the post office. I’ll put in 40 here, you know, but nobody can ever say you’re not working there like that. Fine. So I took over the store. It was there. 22 years never did a million dollars in sales. My first year we did a million dollars in sales. It was doing $27,000 in profit. I took it to $147,000 in profit. Where was that at? The the Papa John’s that runs Carnegie Mellon and University of Pittsburgh, right like in like the Oakland section of Pittsburgh. Okay, so that’s like 2011 2012 right around there. And I go to them and I say, hey, look, if you can pay me, you know, somewhere in between what I’m making the two jobs I’ll never leave Papa John’s will quit the post office. I’ll be here forever. And they’re like, Nick, they were guys that don’t like for Papa john seven Arby’s, eight Taco Bells, and a ton of other stuff like they were businessmen, numbers, guys, that was right. And they said, Look, if you leave, we’re going to sell it. You know, we can’t pay you above the industry standard. So that’s when I was like, I’ve got to go do my own thing. I don’t know why it’s pizza, but that’s what I’m doing. At and the one thing I didn’t know was I love pizza. And I figured you know what if I’m going to do this forever, I have to do it for myself. So I started walking into pizza shops in Pittsburgh, and I said some of your pizza shop, and they would say, Get the hell out of here. The fifth guy walked into said, there’s a shop over in Bloomfield, and, you know, it’s for sale. And I said, Okay, so I walked in, it was a full bar. And I said, Oh, man, what the heck, Quito is a bar. And I walked in the back and all I wanted was a pickup and delivery pizza shop and I walked in the back, full Pizza Kitchen, everything we needed. And then we sat down, and you know, I really didn’t have any money. That was the whole thing like I was I got really probably about 2010 2011. I got really big into the law of attraction. And I read like crazy. I’m a very avid reader. And I’m one of those readers that I read a book and if there’s something mentioned in the book, like another book, I go ahead and I start reading the other book. Like, you know, finish it, but I’m I’m ordering on Amazon like the next book. And I kept reading, hearing about thinking grow rich. And I said, What the heck is this book. So when I read that everything changed. And that’s how I just, I started to have a whole different mentality and outlook on everything. So here I am finding a place to, to buy with literally three doughnuts on a car and Windows don’t even roll down. So they said to me, um, well, I’ll tell you what they said. You look like you’ve got the right reputation. And I told him about everything I’ve done and how many hours at work. They said, Why don’t you save up what you can from working on the police for nine months, at the end of nine months. Give it to us and then we’ll finance the rest over five years on a handshake. Oh, we didn’t have anything signed for those nine months it was all handshake. And I went in I just work like crazy. My my wife and our kids were a little older. They were like 12 and 10 at the time, so my wife went ahead and she worked the front. I worked The back on the store did like 6000 bucks a week. And, you know, we’re going to be a $10 million company this year. So eight years later,

Unknown Speaker  14:09  

wow, how many locations do you have? Now? We have

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five and we’re going on six.

Unknown Speaker  14:15  

Beautiful, beautiful. So our lenders in people financers coming to you more now

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and being like, hey, let’s do this. Absolutely. It’s, um, it’s night and day, you know, in the beginning, you know, I couldn’t get anybody to it was hard to even get back accounts, you know, but now it’s like lines of credit, or there’s a lot of deals where we try to what I’ve tried to do is exactly what I did with the first one go in there and try and go to a place that somebody is having issues they want to get out. I’m looking for their weakness that you know whether they bought it for their nephew, and he doesn’t want to run it anymore. I hate to say it, but you know, there was a guy who had three heart failures, and he just wanted to sell his place so you’re getting a better deal and we just go in and flip them and we’re flipping them in like, seven days or pardon me two weeks. Sure, and then when once we get in there, we just turn it in our brand and we just go and I’ve had real estate investors come at me and like, they’ll show me, Hey, here’s some prime spots because a lot of our spots are like off the beaten path a little bit. But um, you know, through advertising and marketing, I’m able to draw people become a destination. So it doesn’t make sense for me to you know, we’re paying 44,000 or 4500 for rent, it doesn’t make sense for me to go to a place that they’ll say this is prime it’s 12,000 a month but we’ll go ahead and give you a 300,000 for a build out. And you know, you have a 10 year lease and I’m more comfortable taking over somebody give them somebody maybe 150,000 bucks for all their equipment, pay that off over the next five years then have rent for 440 500 like and I’m four out of five out of six deals now. I’ve done with some money down and then the owner is financed the route.

Unknown Speaker  15:56  

I think that’s really leveling up. So tell me where the Kellyanne The name came from that.

Unknown Speaker  16:01  

Okay, so the first store that I bought it was a Turkish guy and Indian guy on the restaurants who I am, you know, dear friends with till today, they owned a bunch of Cricket Wireless stores. And they just decided that they wanted to focus on their Cricket Wireless stores. And it was pretty awesome story on their part because they had, I think nine stores between the two of them eight years ago and they’re up over like 80 stores now. So they made the right move to get out of what wasn’t their niche and then get into their niche and really go hard. But the Turkish guy, you know, I kept saying to him, like, hey, why is it called Cal Atlantic because it was Kelly at a pizza bar. It was open nine months, and he kept laughing. And then you know, a few weeks later I said no, really? Why is it Kelly and he said, in Turkey the number one strip club is called Kellyanne Conway.

Unknown Speaker  16:51  

That’s amazing. That’s a crazy origin. That right that’s that’s fantastic. So, like, I know you said your wife’s really supportable you went through a lot of seasons we like to call it here in time to shine where your your kind of life went up and down in. So your wife is very supportive. You were working five jobs you’re paying your bills probably exceeding a little bit but what was your family’s take on the choice to go out? I mean, the initial I know that she worked the front and everything. She just like, Alright Nick, yeah, let’s go do it. or was she like, Whoa, like, like, how did that go down? I’m like a fly on the wall in that conversation. Sure. So her

Unknown Speaker  17:29  

dad always had his own car dealership, and he had a convenience store. So she grew up with the entrepreneurs mindset. I grew up in. My mom was a stay at home or it was a stay at home mom and my dad was a salesman. So I grew up in more of a, you know, my dad wouldn’t wouldn’t work nine to five and you know, a few times a week you’d have to stay over something or work a little later, but that was in the weekends. We always had the weekends do whatever. And my wife had this. Like I said they they were always at the business work. So she always had that entrepreneur mindset. And she was really the one that was like that, she would always push me and she still does To this day, you know, and I think she definitely even that. It was hard to say because I’m working five jobs and 8090 hours a week, and I can’t even begin to tell you all the things that I missed. just crazy stuff, you know, communions, birthday parties, you know, people would say to her all the time, like, Do you even have a husband? And, you know, she, she knew that there was a bigger picture. And I think she has always believed in me, and that was what was it takes it, you know, you really need that person beside you. that believes in you and that was it. And sure, there were times that really tough that she you know, she would tell me that she needed me for this or that and it was tough because of the communication and not seeing each other but that’s where the delivering pizzas was nice because I could hop on the phone and talk to her for a while while you’re delivering pizzas and stuff to us. It was like it worked. It worked for us, but it was like I think everybody else like everybody always pushed me to get that real job. And that’s that’s the thing. Like, I don’t think anyone understood that, that, um, you know, it was a real job and it is a real job and like now it’s, you know, I think a lot of people were kind of amazed of what I what I’ve done with or what we’ve done with, with what we, what we’ve learned, I guess,

Unknown Speaker  19:22  

really, really, you know, amazing.

Unknown Speaker  19:24  

Yeah, it’s, it’s been it’s been a great journey. And I think a lot of people been really surprised by it. You know, but once the once the family was supportive, though, they once they were there and they saw what we were doing. I think they were just really supportive, I think, sure, they were worried that I was going to fail, but in my mind, I was like, I work so hard for this moment. Sure. I don’t care if I got to live here for the next five years. Like it’s gonna work. That’s my mindset.

Unknown Speaker  19:49  

That’s amazing. Come Tell me about the pizza equation, your book.

Unknown Speaker  19:53  

Sure. So yeah, so I’ve always wanted to write a book. Like I said, I love to read I really do. Like I love the process. podcasts, I if I’m in my car, I’m always going to podcasts or maybe a book on even but I’m always listening to something, but I just really enjoy reading. So I’ve always wanted to tell my story. And I decided I’m probably about two years ago now that I wanted to write a book so I thought it was gonna be what I’ve learned our longest journeys a lot of times what you think and what happens is completely night and day. So I thought I could hire somebody and kind of just give them all my thoughts and they kind of ghost ghost writing. That was kind of my thought. So I had a meeting with the lady gonna write an operation manual for Kellyanne de and the way she pitched me to write the operation manual. When she showed me her book that she wrote, and as you read a book, she’s like, Yes, I want to write a book as like, it has, like, Can you help me write my book and she was like, I’ll take it back really wanted me to do the operations manual, but I pushed more on the book. And she basically said, Yeah, I’ll help you. So she would come in, record me. And then after she recorded me, she typed Have some pages of the book. And I just didn’t like it at all. I didn’t I you know, it wasn’t me. It was um, I just couldn’t do it. And I said, Alright, if I’m serious about this, I’m going to write the book. So, you know, I’m real big on how to eat an elephant. One bite at a time. Yeah. So every Thursday, when everybody went to bed, I sat down, I wrote till I was tired. And you’re later I had a book, the same lady that helped me start gave me her publisher, or her editor rather. And she I sent everything to her and she said, Yeah, you have a booklet we help you put it in order. And then we edited for probably another five to six months. And then last February, March, march right around there, we put out the the pizza equation. And for anybody out there that’s ever thought to write a book. It is. It is a great experience. It’s a great journey. I’m in

Unknown Speaker  21:53  

the middle of mine now. So

Unknown Speaker  21:54  

are you. Yeah, it’s great.

Unknown Speaker  21:56  

It’s awesome. Fantastic. Yeah. What’s really cool about it

Unknown Speaker  21:59  

is You never know where it’s going to take you and what opportunities you’re going to get from it. I did a book signing where I did 1000 books I did. endless amount of speaking from the book that I wrote. Lots of, you know, from the book, I just, I was on so many podcasts I was reading, it was like, I was promoting the book nonstop, right. And I was on these podcasts. I said, You know what, I really enjoy the podcast and I said, I think I’m gonna start my own. So I called it the business equation. So now I’m, you know, almost 30 episodes into the podcast. And it’s just been a great journey. But the book was was fantastic to write. It’s available on Amazon. I do a lot of speaking at different pizza expos and restaurant expos. And it’s nice to instead of handing a business card out, I can hand my book out and I think

Unknown Speaker  22:47  

that’s fantastic. Yeah, gig definitely gives you some street cred when it comes to when it comes to that. Nick, what would you if you had to write a letter or go back in time and talk to your 21 year old Nick, what what would you tell him?

Unknown Speaker  23:02  

You know, that’s a good question. I think I think the thing is, is I always look back at everything I’ve done. And I wonder, you know, what would I really change? And I think a lot of the struggle I went through, gave me the mentality that whatever it takes, you know, I wouldn’t fail because what it was, is when I, when we started Kellyanne Tay, there was a point where I was like, how would I be successful? And I thought the way that I would be successful is if I could buy a car from this century, move into a bigger house, and be able to figure out how the heck I’m gonna pay for my kids college. And then what happened was after that first year, Kellyanne Tay, I build them up so much, that I realized I’m going to be able to do those things. No problem. So I was like, Okay, well, how do I be successful now? What does that really mean to me and what it became the mean to me was, however, however, so I wanted to say like how what came to mean to me was When my employees and the people who work for me can do those things, when they can do those things for their families that I want to do, whatever their dreams desires are, they can do that from the career that I’m providing them. That’s how I’ll know when I’m successful. So the flip back and say, What would I tell my 21 year old self? I think I would just it would be real simple. Just stay in the fight. You know, and just keep going at it. Yeah. You know, that’s I mean, I don’t know really. There’s very very little regret You know, it was so many ups and downs and a lot of a lot of growing up and I think that was a lot of it was everybody matures at a different age and I really think the 20s are just such a hard age and you know, for the kids, I call them kids but the for the guys guys and girls in their 20s they get it and that they’re into you know, growing themselves. I more power to them, like they got you know, head and shoulders above the rest of us, but I really didn’t think Bigger self growth out. So probably almost like 30 like 2029 and that’s been the

Unknown Speaker  25:06  

dark generation Nick was like that though, you know, where, you know, our we were seen and not heard and we you know, there was no timeout it was knocked out with our parents, you know what I’m saying? So we never had that, you know where freedom to these kids have today? I don’t know how good they really have it and, and I love like you just said the ones that are out there grinding and moving forward. That’s fantastic. Let me let me ask you something. What is Nick’s definition of a life well lived

Unknown Speaker  25:36  

a life well lived, you know, starts with it’s almost like the same thing is is asking what was success? You know, it’s it’s sure those things are business wise, but I think living a happy life. Like it’s all levels, you know, I that’s what’s really hard is the balance of life. Like you’re, you’re exceeding it your business. Can you also exceed at home? What about your health? What about your hobbies. Now what I’ve really tried to do is, is try to learn to look at those things more on a quarterly quarterly evaluation than anything else and kind of say, Okay, what do I need to do here? And I think that’s it, it’s trying to it’s the balance that you’re never going to have complete balance because when you’re working in one way, it just tells tilts that way, but it’s remembering to go back to the spot that that you’re you’re not at, because I know even if you’re working so hard at one place in your life, you’ve got to remember to go back to that place that you kind of left to go work hard at the other one,

Unknown Speaker  26:34  

right, like almost going back to the roots in a sense to regroup if you will, like what we like to say here at time to shine, take your like little sabbatical and just reflect. Yes, you know, we’re gonna, we’re gonna move into our level of lightning round. Now, you and I could talk 20 1520 minutes on each one of these but I love you got to be five to six In seconds because we’re running out of time constraints. Okay. So what is the best level of advice you’ve ever received? I think

Unknown Speaker  27:13  

the work for yourself. Awesome. My dad said work for yourself. Whatever you do it for yourself.

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What’s one of the personal habits that you have that contributes to your success?

Unknown Speaker  27:24  

gratitude?

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What

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movie taught you the most about life?

Unknown Speaker  27:33  

The Secret

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Love it. Right? What is your favorite charity organization you support?

Unknown Speaker  27:41  

Dream Big Honduras, orange arrow and St. Jude.

Unknown Speaker  27:44  

Beautiful. And last question, what is the best decade of music 6070s 80s or 90s 70s? My man we can hang out anytime. Awesome. So before we leave here, Nick, leave our time. Time to shine squad with one Knowledge Nugget that you want them to take with them.

Unknown Speaker  28:06  

I think it’d be real simple, just like I kind of mentioned before, if there’s all these big projects and goals that you want to do and remember, how do you eat that elephant? It’s one bite at a time. And the other part of that would be is if you find yourself unfocused, that means that you don’t have a goal big enough and worthy enough to go out and get so find a big goal and that’ll get you unstuck. Find a big goal. That is awesome. So that is awesome. Right? And where can we find you Nick? Sure. You can find me at Nick bug as calm. You can find me Instagram Nick, bogus official, and you could find me. Pizza Drafthouse calm.

Unknown Speaker  28:45  

Awesome. And do you have any speaking engagements or anything that

Unknown Speaker  28:50  

you want to share with us? Sure. I appreciate that. I’m going to be at the International pizza Expo in Las Vegas, right around April Fool’s Day, and I’ve got Three seminars and a workshop that we’ll be doing out there. Awesome. And

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I’ll get all those dates and whatnot. And I’ll put them in the show notes for everybody. And so squad you just heard from a guy that basically started out very humble, very small, worked his way up, fought some demons, with the help of his reading, avid reading to bring him out of the doldrums and his awesome wife and family supporting him. He has a $10 million business right now. And, you know, we want to thank you for being raw and honest. And we’d love your outside the box thinking and to get unstuck your goals not big enough. That’s That’s awesome, Nick, and we can tell that you’re humble. We can tell that you’re hungry, that you’re always loving your health and leveling up your wealth. And now you’re part of the time to shine squad, man. So I really, really appreciate you coming on. Awesome. Thanks for having me so much. You bet. Nick. Have a great day. Yep. Hey, Thanks so much for listening to this episode of time to shine today podcast probably brought to you by Southern Nugent real estate real estate excellence who can be reached at 561-249-7266 and online at www dot Sutter and nugent.com. If you’re a business owner or professional who would like to be interviewed on time to shine today, please visit time to shine today.com slash guest. If you liked this episode, please subscribe on Apple podcasts, Google podcast, Stitcher, Spotify, I Heart Radio or wherever you get your podcast. There’s a link in the show notes to our website. Also there you will see recommended resources. We hope that you will support our show by supporting them. If you like what you’ve been listening to, it’d be great if you could just give us a five star rating and tell your friends to subscribe while you’re at it. I’m your host, Scott Ferguson. And until next time, let’s level up. It’s our time to shine.

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