’cause the knowledge nuggets that my good friend Leroy drops are just above reproach. And if you like it, please smash the like button, the subscribe button. ’cause my sponsors and affiliates absolutely love that. So without further ado, here’s my really good friend. Also fellow [00:01:00] coaching colleague Leroy Roberts from Teamwork Solutions Limited.

Let’s level up.

Time to Shine today. Podcast Varsity Squad. This is Scott Ferguson and I’m reaching across the pond to somebody that I immensely respect. Another kind of big physical man on this earth, like myself dominating on stage. I. Carries the rocks, that mic, and he carries a stage so well. He is my good friend, Leroy Roberts.

He’s a leadership and communication expert who helps C-Suite executives tackle disengaged teams, low morale and high turnover with a background in the British Army. I know British Army, we were joking off Mike about that. And Jamaica Con Const. Force along with 18 years of global experience, he brings deep expertise in leadership and team dynamics.

Mentored by Les Brown and Ken, I always butcher this name. Ken Rung B. He empowers individuals through his books and speeches, advocating for ICL inclusive leadership, committed to social change. Leroy also serves as a non-executive director for the London Mutual Credit Union [00:02:00] promoting financial inclusivity and community growth.

And is we, we just were talking about company names, which he just kind of flipped it into Teamwork Solutions Limited, which often like we were kind of talking about, while it was a great move and Leroy, thank you so much for coming on. Please introduce yourself to the Time to Shine Today Podcast Varsity Squad.

But first, what’s your favorite color and why?

Leroy Roberts: In the background. Blue. Blue. My man keeps me calm. It keeps me calm. And I think it’s something that displays seriousness and connection and I like that.

L. Scott Ferguson: Yeah. Yeah. And, and I’m looking at the Atlantic Ocean right now. It has a nice little blue hue too. It, my friend.

Good stuff, man. And you’re gonna come here and visit soon, which I cannot wait. And I can’t wait to like, again, rock some stages with you. I would open for you any day of the week, my friend. So. Let’s get to the roots, man, you, you have a lot here and you help a lot of people level up, but what was your roots to get started?

That kind of aha flip flop moment that that got you to where you are, where you’re highly sought [00:03:00] after. And some of that I immensely respect.

Leroy Roberts: No, no. Thank you so much, Scott and I, look first, I wanna celebrate you and what you do with the time to shine. Team, it’s, it’s amazing and I think you are a force for good and history will look back up on you very kindly for the great work you’re doing now.

Thank you’s. It’s amazing to be here and to share this stage with you and just for the opportunities to share. Some of what I’ve been doing and the impact I have been having, so my journey has been long, and I always say that the person you see now. I’m not self-made. Many people contributed to me, and I always say this, I have been made both by the kindness and cruelty of others, and all of that came together to make this person that you see here today.

So. It has been an extraordinary journey starting from the Caribbean. Yeah. To Europe. And of course I do come across to the pond quite frequently.

And I think my time [00:04:00] serving in the services has given me length and breadth a lot of opportunities to see many places and to work alongside other people.

L. Scott Ferguson: Yeah.

Leroy Roberts: And I think that has really given me a frame of reference and appreciation for different perspectives and different background.

L. Scott Ferguson: Right.

Leroy Roberts: And. When I have decided to make the transition, I think it was only good to share all I that I have learned. And I know you have learned a lot yourself as a, a fellow brother in arms, right?

And just to take that to the business space. And I think there is a real issue there when it comes to disengagement and disconnection, right. With teams and leadership. And that’s what I’m all about and that’s what I’m passionate about.

L. Scott Ferguson: It, it is beautiful squad. You hear that the person you see now is not self-made.

We, we need community. I. , he’s seLf-made by the kindness and, and the cruelty of others. There’s lessons we stand on the shoulders of giants and you and I are striving to be a giant that people stand on the shoulders of so we can pay it forward as well. And I love, love that [00:05:00] you added cruelty as well.

’cause we need those people to of, to shape us, right. Of. Yeah, because

Leroy Roberts: one thing I’ve come to understand, it’s not just who we should be, but also who we should not be. Like, and I, that you need that because when you see the choices that many people have made, you can learn from this, and that’s a warning.

That’s something to avoid. So

L. Scott Ferguson: strong. Yeah, man, that that’s a it. It’s kinda like. Our parents would like catch us right before we were about to do something stupid, what I’m saying? Jump off a roof of a house or something like that, right? Where we’re like, eh, we’re invincible, but you, you’re right, because it, it locks into that subconscious mind of what we don’t want to do.

So we bring it to the forefront of the conscious. So talk to me about the coaching man. Like what do you feel? Leroy makes a great coach.

Leroy Roberts: A, A great coach is a great coach because that’s an individual who [00:06:00] is not in business just to take, they have a burning desire to give back, and I think I. What we are suffering from is a lot of takers.

And as a coach, if you are in it for the right reason and you are, you have that conviction to really add value to people. And that’s a key word, adding value because we have a lot of value robbers and we need more value. Others. Yeah, love. And to understand is that a lot people in this space, it’s not that.

They lack value themself. They’re just not adding value because you have not yet figured out their why. Yeah.

L. Scott Ferguson: Yeah.

Leroy Roberts: And I think a good coach is somebody who can help people to draw out the deep seated potential they have and to become the best version of their self they can be.

L. Scott Ferguson: That’s strong.

Leroy Roberts: And my advice to you [00:07:00] is.

Choose wisely because in this space I have had some horrible coaches and I, I’m laughing with you,

L. Scott Ferguson: man. I promise you. Yeah. It, it’s such a low threshold to become one, right? Of course. You don’t have to have a degree, you don’t have to have anything. Everybody feels they’re a coach until they run into a situation with a client that.

That person, not the client, but that coach is about themselves. They chase that dollar. Like the, the reason why I feel that I excel and like you excel I’m sure, is that our superpower is curiosity, right? Correct. We are curious, like we wanna see that person become the best version of themselves, hold them accountable, , kindly reprimand them when they come off course.

But we’re also, I gotta ask you something because you do have. , like the, the credit unions, , stuff like that that you’re involved in. Do you find yourself consulting also?

Leroy Roberts: Yes. And you see, one of the thing that is good about me because of the, the spread I, my background has always been service.

So [00:08:00] it has never, my motivation has never been money. And know that if you have work in the services area and refer and Yeah. And the military, right? That it’s not for the money. They don’t pay you enough to live a big, fancy life, right? And so in the nonprofit area, which the credit union, it is member centric.

It’s all about members first. And we work primarily for the interest of members. And we have to ensure that we, we, always be fair to them. And we have an obligation and a duty to ensure that the decisions we take is in their best interest, not only for them, but their families. Yes, sir. And for future generations.

L. Scott Ferguson: Love that, that you’re looking forward to what they are like. I’m almost seeing you. ’cause I’m just a coach. I’m, , I don’t say just a coach, but I’m, I’m a coach because I’m, I’m blessed to coach, , millionaires, one billionaire, , and, and people, and it’s like they have businesses. They forgot more about than I’ll ever know.

But I also know that a lot of people know what they want. Well, everyone knows what [00:09:00] they want, they just don’t know how to talk themselves into it, right? Mm-hmm. And that’s where a great coach, a curious coach, a caring coach. A giving coach really comes in and we listen with our neck, not just our ears, all of our senses that we’re pulling it out of them.

So when it comes to, like, I, I’ll call you a coach Salton, because there’s things that you can do that you’re experienced with. I love it. I love it. Right in, in there. So. Let’s say you’re in a discovery period with your one-on-one program, which squad I will get to is one-on-one program that you definitely will wanna be a part of?

Well, let’s, let’s say you’re in a discovery period, making sure you’re the right horse for the course, the right coach, right. So is there like any like call it, we’ll call it secret sauce or something maybe like we’re kind of having that discovery and you’re really trying to shine a light on that, that blind spot.

What is your process for doing that?

Leroy Roberts: No, the process is definitely you want to. Create an environment of psychological safety so that, oh my gosh, that’s client, dude must feel free and [00:10:00] open to be able to share what it is that is the real issue because most of the time they’re stating the symptoms and sometimes they know what the problem is.

So you have to be a really good listener. But once you can create that space where they can speak freely and say what it is that. Is the pain. Then with permission from them, you can, , help to provide.

L. Scott Ferguson: Good. Oh my God, dude. Thank, thank you, bro. What was that p word again? Permission. Yes. How many people you’ll talk to that say they’re coaches and they just go right into coaching?

Like, bad dude. That’s terrible. Right? And I’m sorry. I’m sorry. And your coaches out there do, but get it right. Start getting it right because. , and there’s so many easy ways to ask for permission. Like my technique Leroy is like, if I saw you and I, you, you talked about an issue, be like, Hey, Leroy, what, man?

I have some things that might work for you. , I have some ideas. They might work, they might be stupid ideas, and I always add that they might be stupid ideas, but if you have [00:11:00] time to sit down and rap about it, like please let me know. That’s kind of asking them permission to talk to ’em about stuff.

Right. I mean, but people will just be like, if you said, Fergie, I, I’m, , I’m doing this. Have you tried this? Have you did this? It’s like, you find that out there, right?

Leroy Roberts: Amazing. Amazing

L. Scott Ferguson: Dude.

Leroy Roberts: It’s terrible. We think alike strongly in this subject.

L. Scott Ferguson: Yes, yes. You and I are aligned, man, like wi within that, because it’s just.

And I, and I’ve always kind of wanted to be a fly on the wall in one of your sessions because I know that you’re listening intently. I know that you’re looking out their best interest holding that mirror up in front of ’em, , and saying, , this is you and all and who you can be. Mm-hmm.

Which leads me to ask you if you’re in one of those discovery sessions, is there any good question that you wish they would ask you but never do?

Leroy Roberts: I I love that. And, and that’s a a, a really good question. [00:12:00] Lemme just say you asked some of the best questions. Oh, thank you. Thank you. And I, I really have to keep, I’m not trying to trip you up.

L. Scott Ferguson: I’m really curious about you. Take pause

Leroy Roberts: for a moment. Yeah, please. I think people should be able to ask the right questions.

Mm-hmm. Any questions that are going to be asked will open itself for a broader conversation. More support. More support can be provided. Exactly. I always tell people, even if you choose not to follow the advice given. Sure. You should be responsible enough and to be in a position to own the outcome of whatever decision you take.

Yes. Or even decision you refuse to take.

L. Scott Ferguson: Yes.

Leroy Roberts: And it’s also to let people know that guess what, I am not here as your coach to rob you of agency.

L. Scott Ferguson: Yes. I’m

Leroy Roberts: not here to take away the responsibility from you. No. In fact, I want you to be even more responsible. I [00:13:00] am a guide and I’m here to support you along the way, and I’m here to tap into the experiences I have and the resources I have access to, love that, and the community that I have access to, and how to best pour into you so that you can achieve the goal that you want.

L. Scott Ferguson: Love that. Not one that I think is right for you. Right? Thank you. Because everybody has that challenge inside them, but the, the solution’s there. They, it’s already there. You and I are curious and being like, yo, ask the question. They come up with it. ’cause if I tell ’em, Hey, go do this, , they’ll be like, and it doesn’t work for, you’re an idiot, right?

But if they come up with it through yours and mine’s curiosity, we hold ’em accountable, boom. Magic happens. But you gotta ask you, you said it a couple times, responsibility. What is Leroy’s definition of responsibility? Simple. Both. To respond with ability. Dude, I always say the ability to respond. Exactly.

That’s it’s rooted right in the word. Right, exactly. It comes from our boyles, doesn’t it? You know what I’m saying? I’ve been blessed. Open for him, man. And it, it’s like [00:14:00] that’s where I got it. That stuck. That was one of the first things that ever stuck with me. And this is probably 1997, right? Wow. The ability to respond.

That’s exactly what it’s, people don’t really, it’s not react, right? Nope. It’s to respond. I love that. So Leroy, what is your why? The why for

Leroy Roberts: me is I,

L. Scott Ferguson: this is so good.

Leroy Roberts: Started out rather, even though in the Caribbean, which is bright and sunny, but rather bleak, it’s was a bleak environment because. Just to give you a bit of a backdrop, my dad was born in 1941, so you’re talking about my grand and great grandparents go back in the 18 hundreds.

Wow. I have a lot have been deposited in me in terms of the ideas and beliefs I have inherited. As a child growing up, but whilst I am blessed for some of the things that was shared with me, I was also restricted by some of the beliefs. And [00:15:00] the key thing I’m getting at here is that beliefs are transferable and beliefs can also be generational.

It is a good thing when those beliefs serves you well, all good. But if they don’t, you have to have the bravery. To break that belief and to create a new belief for yourself that served you best. And I think that was the biggest challenge I had to do. I had to break free. And having broken free from those beliefs, I actually gave permission for other people to do the same.

Yes. My why is really to wake people up to realize that there’s more to life than you have been told. And as I always say, this line. You can accept what people put in you or you can be yourself. I would suggest you do the latter. Love it.

L. Scott Ferguson: It

Leroy Roberts: it.

L. Scott Ferguson: Can I ask your age? I’ve never asked you that. We’ve wrapped for a while, so how old are you?

Leroy Roberts: Half of 70 plus one. Okay, so you’re [00:16:00] 36. Six. Okay. Very cool. You look, you look young. I’m 53 and like, but like that means your pops. My pops was born in 48. Wow. So, and you’re possibly born 41. So he had you in his 40 47. 47, 7 9. Wow. Wow. That that’s amazing, man. That, that’s great, man. So, like with people, ask my why I, I’ve broken it down into two words or three words to be useful.

L. Scott Ferguson: I. That’s my walk, man. I wanna be useful to the world. If you needed me for something, it doesn’t even have to be coaching. If you’re like, Fergie, dude, I need to run a car. I’m having a hard time, , getting one in Palm Beach, dude, I, I got you. What I’m saying? I wanna be like, our credo here at Time to Shine today is we don’t wanna have anyone to feel like they have no one.

So if you are looking for, , a equestrian coach to learn how to ride a horse, I wanna have the answer for you. Wow. I wanna be useful to people, right? And then, and just be that resource because it all circles back. And you said something earlier about, about the [00:17:00] takers out there, right? Mm-hmm. , like, I’m, you and me are, were go givers, right?

That as we give, right? But I gotta ask some how. And be honest here, because you and I kind of come from our, our parents were blue collar. Okay. My dad worked on the line of General Motors, , in the, in Detroit right. Building Chevys. And, and our brains were not made for money. It wasn’t made to how to save it, keep it, , I became a millionaire, lost it because I didn’t have the identity to keep it right.

But what do you, what, how did you get over? That lack mindset. Not, not, did not say not love, because there’s a lot of love in our family, but the lack mindset, how did you break through that?

Leroy Roberts: And that’s a beautiful question. And I would say that I struggled. I struggled long and hard and me

L. Scott Ferguson: too,

Leroy Roberts: man. And then I realized that no, this cannot be right because I would not be able.

To [00:18:00] give in the way that I wanted was to give and to care for my loved ones in the way that I wanted to.

L. Scott Ferguson: Right.

Leroy Roberts: And that came down to was the miseducation that we have all received when it comes to money and wealth. And that’s a fact. A hundred percent. And I first had to recognize that, guess what I, I don’t understand this thing and I need to get some knowledge.

I need to get some experience. Right. And that’s when the reading started, the research started. Yeah. Follow some key people in the out there that we all know. I can mention the Kiyosaki and others of course. Gotta have the purple books. You gotta have talking up their, their material. Yeah. And when I gained an intelligent knowledge of the subject and I realized I will do was doing much better and I never had to wonder will I have enough?

L. Scott Ferguson: Right.

Leroy Roberts: Right. In fact, I now realize I have always had enough. It was just not being managed properly.

L. Scott Ferguson: Thank you. And, and that’s what it’s all

Leroy Roberts: about. [00:19:00] And most people need to get this, that money is a tool to be used

L. Scott Ferguson: options, baby.

Leroy Roberts: And you need to be able to use it well. And if you don’t use it, it uses you.

L. Scott Ferguson: Right. I,

Leroy Roberts: I never wanted to be a slave to it. Right. And the only way you’re not gonna be a slave to it is not to be ignorant of it and how it works.

L. Scott Ferguson: Thank you. It like my whole coaching philosophy is to even says on my LinkedIn, all my marketing, whatever is, is that to live a life of options and not obligations.

Right? But options cannot be lived without money. I. The real option. Sorry. You have to have it. , you can still love without options and , love without money. I’m sorry and whatnot. But I have to ask you, because of your upbringing, and I kind of cro crisscrossed my wires here when I wanted to ask you this earlier, but how are you, and be honest with me, Leroy, how are you at receiving, like really receiving.

I had a hard time, bro. I struggled bad with getting it. Am I worthy of this dude? , is [00:20:00] this, , I was attaching my confidence to my abilities. I’m like, how the hell can I speak in front of 500 people? How can I, , coach a millionaire? And then my coach had to say, listen, you need to attach your confidence to your intentions.

Mm-hmm. That’s what it is. Once you, if my tension is to lock, to rock that crowd. You’re there. Right. No one would’ve put you in front of there, if, unless you could do it. But how are you at accepting receiving?

Leroy Roberts: I, I struggled with that too. I struggled for a very, very long Yeah, do time. Yeah. Yeah.

Until when I get to the place where I realize that, . The reason why I’m struggling so much is because, again, there’s another belief here that is not serving me well. Yes. And I had to that up. Yeah. And once that was done, then I, I, I eased into a place of comfort and with that ease into this new place where I can now function.[00:21:00]

It did not only benefit my life, but it benefit those people who are connected to me and even those who are not connected to me directly. Right. Who can benefit through, , the given that I do. And I, and I do emphasize a lot in giving because there are many causes that I am so a percent Yes.

L. Scott Ferguson: Yeah.

But so many people, like I absolutely. And I still kind to kind of suck at receiving. Mm-hmm. My coach had to say, we were sitting on the beach and. She said, listen, that that sea grape, which is a tree on the beach, right? That sea grape over there, like, look at it for a second. I looked at it and she’s like, you got it in your mind?

And she’s like, keep looking at it. She, she asked me a question. What do we breathe in? We breathe in oxygen. What do we breathe out? Carbon dioxide. What does that, that sea, great. Breathe in. It breathes in carbon dioxide. What does it breathe out? Oxygen. Does the sea great? Have a fricking choice. Why do we give ourselves it?

I’m saying that’s what [00:22:00] really started a breakthrough with me. And then she also took me into her house and hit a key on a piano, and her chandelier moved. Mm-hmm. That’s where I learned energy is real and that that accepted that key and it had no choice. It had to move. You may you see what I’m saying?

It’s like extra No,

Leroy Roberts: I, I love the analogy. It’s really powerful and I think it conveyed the, the concept really well. Yeah. And it must, and I think for a very long time I was in that place where I was a giver and I’m still that. Yeah, absolutely. But by how you are making it difficult to receive. And sometimes it’s a selfishness as we need to break away from that because when we also receive from others.

The good feeling that I get when I give. I should not be the only one who get to enjoy that. Other people need to enjoy that. Oh yeah, man. It’s giving gratitude to somebody else as they want to celebrate you and honor [00:23:00] you in some ways. Love it. And I has to, it. It has to be a, A cycle that benefit everyone on the journey.

L. Scott Ferguson: Love

Leroy Roberts: it.

L. Scott Ferguson: So Leroy, have you seen the movie Back to the Future?

Leroy Roberts: I have, I have not visited it or, or quite recently, I, next week it’s gonna be 40 year. Very well.

L. Scott Ferguson: Wow. Okay. Next week is gonna be 40. So anyways, so let’s get in that, that DeLorean with Marty McFly, the, the, the character. Let’s go back to the double deuce, the 22-year-old Leroy, okay?

Mm-hmm. Which would be about 14 years ago, okay? Mm-hmm. Let’s drop some knowledge on ’em. Let’s give them some knowledge on ’cause, not to change anything. ’cause you’re, your journey has been pretty freaking awesome. Okay. Let’s admit it. Okay. But maybe to help Leroy shorten a learning curve or blast through maybe just a little bit quicker.

Leroy Roberts: I would say definitely. I identify where you wanna get to and if you can’t find anyone in your [00:24:00] immediate surrounding. Find somebody who aligns with you. Because for me, when I saw the person whom I know, we’ll get to that in a moment. Sure. Who embody what I wanted was to do immediately it clicked. Mm-hmm.

And, and it was this invisible connection, heart to heart, knowing that deep down, I can do that. What that did for me as I created a vision for myself and just a quick definition for what that vision is, please. It’s internalized mental picture of a future that is better than the present. Love it. And once you can create that vision and you start to move, then everything that is needed to get you to the goal naturally aligns.

Right? Right. And only thing that will prevent you from getting there is your belief. That was the 22-year-old. I had a larger vision for myself, and I needed was to get to someplace. [00:25:00] And a key thing here is this. Never ask yourself, how am I gonna do it? Ask who can help me to get there.

L. Scott Ferguson: Thank you. I call it getting your asking gear.

Yes. Ask people, dude. Mm-hmm. There, there’s so many people out there that will, if, if a kid comes to me and 22, 23 years old. I am going to dump so much knowledge on him in my 53 years that he’s going to leave baffled. But I’m gonna fill his reticular activating system with so much stuff that it’s gonna spread that web out and start looking for the stuff.

Right. And if he continues to come back to me, I’m gonna mentor him. You know? Of course. That’s the people, there are people like that out there. I know he can’t afford. The coaching right now, but if we can get that generation coming along right, them paying it forward is enough payback for me. What I’m saying, it’s just like I can just see you being that young buck, , military guy this out, out asking for advice just [00:26:00] like I did, bro.

I did. I asked everybody all the time, , ’cause I knew something wasn’t right about getting outta the military and going and working on the line at Ford Motor Company. Mm-hmm. Or doing something like that, that I was brought up doing. You, , brought up all of our parents did. And then not saying is wrong at all.

It’s just, I just felt like I had a calling from. Right, which leads me to this with you. How does Leroy want his dash? Remember that little line in between your incarnation date and your expiration date, your life date, and your death date? Hopefully it’s way, way down the line, but on your tombstone, there’s always that little dash.

How do you want your dash remembered?

Leroy Roberts: I am a personal value and I would want people to walk away saying that, guess what? He made me see more value in me. Than I had seen in myself by myself. And I think that’s the key because most of the times people think that the thing that they desire so much is outside of them.

[00:27:00] No, it’s all within you. The key thing is how to unlock that and you need somebody to help you to, to bring that out.

L. Scott Ferguson: Yes, yes. That’s what I would say. That that’s beautiful, man. That that is exactly. , ’cause so many people have the value in they’re, but they’re unable to see it because sometimes parents call ’em dummy and stupid growing up, , or , maybe an abusive relationship and they just don’t see that value.

If you can remind them of that and lean into that, then the ultimate human starts to come out and that’s that. That’s amazing.

Leroy Roberts: So, and I think it’s a perfect segue again for the name of my company Team Worth solution. Hundred percent. And the reason for that is. The idea and the concept and the principle behind that.

Every team has value, but not every team adds value. So all you need to figure out how can you add the value,

L. Scott Ferguson: bro. I think leadership is, say that again. Say that again.

Leroy Roberts: Every team adds, VA has value, but not every [00:28:00] team adds

L. Scott Ferguson: value. You hear that squad write that down. That is strong and the

Leroy Roberts: key is to get people how to release the value that they have locked up inside of them.

Yeah. Leadership is all about relationship. Yeah. And I think the people always really doing a good job of leading right. Are people who can help you to become more valuable to yourself and naturally be able to make a contribution.

L. Scott Ferguson: Yeah.

Leroy Roberts: In what space you

L. Scott Ferguson: are in. And if you’re not doing it, you’re sinning.

And I’m not saying from a religious connotation, the root word of sinning or sin is s sin from Greek, which means missing the mark. Right. You are legitly missing the mark if you’re not adding value to people that you can, adding value to yourself. , again, my first 90 minutes when I wake up, I know it’s cliche because it, you see it in every self self-help book, but that’s me.

Cold plunge, boom, sauna, infrared, boom, walk my dog, boom. Get in the beach. Boom. That’s, that’s legit me. I’m adding value to myself before anybody else, right? Yeah. Because that way I can serve as many people as I can.

Leroy Roberts: Perfect. Man. You’re on the money. [00:29:00]

L. Scott Ferguson: A hundred percent. So what do you think people might misunderstand the most about Leroy?

Leroy Roberts: I, I think they believe that I have had a life that is all Roy and smooth. Right? They really don’t know that. I have been through so much to get to where I am today, and I’m still going through that, and we would never stop

L. Scott Ferguson: my friend. Right.

Leroy Roberts: I have more scars than most people think. Right. Yeah. The funny thing is I do not allow my life to be defined by those scars.

L. Scott Ferguson: Yeah.

Leroy Roberts: So what I draw from that is the lessons learned. And I think one of the, that makes us different from many other people is the fact that we have a history and we have a frame of reference. We have been battle tested.

L. Scott Ferguson: Yes.

Leroy Roberts: And when we come into this space talking about this subject, we know what we are talking about.

Right? We are not just thinking about this now. Yeah.

L. Scott Ferguson: Yeah. So what [00:30:00] is Leroy’s definition of a life or lived.

Leroy Roberts: A life well lived is a life that was purposeful and a life that was lived to the fullest. And that means it’s a life where you are consistently trying to do more than you did the day before. And I think most of the times, most people, they arrive at the place where they.

Become drunk in their success, in their achievement, and they fail to get to the next level. I have. I do not get too hung up with accomplishments and achievement. I always ask myself, even though I do celebrate, you better. Yeah. Right. What’s next? Yeah, what’s next? People, there’s always more to do. As long as there’s breath in the body, there is something else for me to do and I need to figure out.

Thank you.

L. Scott Ferguson: What that is like people like that are performers. I’ll call you a high performer. I’m a high performer ’cause I’ve [00:31:00] earned it and so have you. But like the top of one peak is the bottom of the next. Yes. Right. It’s just the bottom line. And every time I, I have a mirror and it’s weird ’cause my fiance laughs at me, but I’ll look at it and see like then the way I’ll be like, I’ll never see you again.

Nice to know you. And I go to bed and I just wanna be better than that dude that I just said goodbye to. You know what I’m saying? That’s my whole goal. That’s what gets me up in the morning. The only way I can be useful, my why is to get my ass in the cold punch. Get my ass walk, get my dog my ass in the beach and doing that stuff.

Always looking for that edge. That, that’s amazing. Time to shine today. Podcast Varsity squad. We are back. And Leroy when you’re in Florida or if I’m over across the pond, we’ll definitely meet up.

I I will make it happen. We’re gonna will this to happen. Okay? And you and I are gonna talk about some of these questions, probably 15, 20 minutes. Okay? But today you got five seconds with no explanations and they can all be answered that way. I promise you. You ready to level up? Oh yes. [00:32:00] All right. All right.

Leroy. He smiled. He’s squat. If you’re watching, he just smiled. Some people have this what? He smiles like, bring it. Love this. So Leroy, what is the best leveling up advice you’ve ever received? If you have to lose anything, lose money. But don’t lose time. That’s right. Love it. Share one of your personal habits that contributes to your success.

Leroy Roberts: I really enjoy taking a long walk and it gives me time to think and I. Staying at time alone is really cool. Cool.

L. Scott Ferguson: Absolutely. You see me walking down the street or maybe at an event or, yeah. Fergie looks like he’s in his doldrums. All right. What book would you hand me that really flipped a switch in you to level Up?

Like you just flip my mind around,

Leroy Roberts: I’m gonna recommend, recommend something new, which is Who Not How? By Don Sullivan and Benjamin Hart. It’s a really good one.

L. Scott Ferguson: Gotcha. Donnie. Put that in the show notes please. Thank you. How about your most commonly used emoji when you text [00:33:00]

Leroy Roberts: the

L. Scott Ferguson: big thumb? Thumb? My man nicknames growing up?

Reds. Reds? Okay. Yes. I’ll let you, let’s elaborate on this. What’s up on that? Yeah, yeah. I

Leroy Roberts: think we should. I think we should. What’s reds? So growing up, so my mother was very fair whilst my father was much darker, so I, well, I, I inherited the fairer genes.

L. Scott Ferguson: Okay.

Leroy Roberts: Growing up around my cousins, I was considered to be the red man, so that, okay.

I served with a

L. Scott Ferguson: red man.

Leroy Roberts: That was my

L. Scott Ferguson: name. Okay, I got you. I got you. Yeah, I got you. I served with a red man, Rex in the military and the the brothers right. We call ’em red. I’m like, what’s up with that? And because I was so neutral and I’m not white or black, right? They were like, let me in on stuff. And then they were like.

Oh, it just ’cause look at me. He has a right. I’m like, okay. Sounds good. We know what’s funny. Even my parents refer to me by that name as well. That’s awesome. That, that’s awesome. [00:34:00] So how about any hidden talent and or superpower that you have that nobody really knows about until now? Well,

Leroy Roberts: actually I’m a barber, , I, I do a lot of barbering, which most people don’t know

L. Scott Ferguson: what, what, say that again.

Leroy Roberts: Barbering. I cut my own hair. Oh,

L. Scott Ferguson: cut hair. Wow. Yeah, sometimes. Very cool. Very cool. Chess checkers or monopoly?

Leroy Roberts: I

L. Scott Ferguson: would

Leroy Roberts: definitely say checkers because I have not been having, so you, dude,

L. Scott Ferguson: bless me. Yes. Checkers is definitely a coach’s game, right? I love it. Headline for your life.

Leroy Roberts: Forever Purposeful.

L. Scott Ferguson: Love that dude. Love it. Go to ice cream Flavor.

Leroy Roberts: Vanilla.

L. Scott Ferguson: All right. There’s a sandwich called the reds. Build that sandwich for me. What are we eating on that sandwich?

Leroy Roberts: Lot of meat. Yeah. More meat and meat. Put some lettuce and cucumber on top.

L. Scott Ferguson: Yeah, and some [00:35:00] man candy. A little bacon on there.

Well, that’s some meat, right? The little van candy on there. I love that. Lets get protein, right? Favorite charity and or organization like to give your time and or money to?

Leroy Roberts: I would say definitely the healthcare system. Okay. Because it, it tugs something deep in me.

L. Scott Ferguson: Good, good. Love that. Last question, you can elaborate on this a little bit, but what’s the best decade of music?

Sixties, seventies, eighties, or nineties? Definitely seventies for me. Really? Okay. Yeah. Me, me too actually. What’s your reasoning for the seventies?

Leroy Roberts: Again, it goes back to my history because most of the music I was listening to actually came from that era, and at the time when you never really had much access, you, you, to most of the music, you could select yourself.

Okay. You basically absorb what you heard around you. Yeah. Yeah. And most of the music coming from the sound system in my community and neighborhood, right. They’re being etched in memory. [00:36:00]

L. Scott Ferguson: I love that. It, it. I love the seventies. I’m an eight. I graduated high school in 1990, right? And so the eighties was huge for like invasions from different countries.

What I mean by that, like U2 Duran and stuff. So it was big hair, don’t care, rap, , stuff. But the seventies had all the great storytellers, , of course, bro, chief Lightfoot, the Eagles, Marley. Like everybody had stories that they were telling and. That’s why I love to listen. Like when I’m listening to a podcast, when I listen to this again and I start building show notes, I’ll have the seventies on, just know this.

I’ll have the seventies on when I’m like re-listening and sending it to my editor. Right. So that, that, that’s awesome. So you did mention something about I. Lose money, but don’t lose time. I want you to go a little bit on that one because you said it during our, our lightning round and I heard that and I got curious.

Leroy Roberts: Yes. Because there are so many people who believe that the most valuable thing they have is money and they, they fight. So I, this [00:37:00] is a poor. Let’s just say it’s somebody with a poor mindset, with a scarcity mindset that suffers from this the most.

L. Scott Ferguson: Thank you. Yep.

Leroy Roberts: And they, they wanna hold it so much, but what they do not know is if you really want that freedom and if you really want to be your best and you want to achieve those personal, professional.

And those other accolades, social contribution, right? You have to be in a better place and all you’re going to get there is through collaboration and partnership, not by yourself, right?

L. Scott Ferguson: And

Leroy Roberts: some of those areas you will need to invest. And I think for far too long. People try to hold on to small amounts of money, which is depreciating in value every day.

Sure. Or invest with the right people so that they could get further faster, and be able to make a, a, a more meaningful contribution. Both of themself and others.

L. Scott Ferguson: Love it. That’s, you nailed it on that a hundred percent. ’cause we [00:38:00] don’t get the time back, dude. No, we don’t. It’s possible. It’s a commodity that See ya.

Bye. , that’s why, and that is why

Leroy Roberts: I say, and again, I have to, , salute you for what you’re doing here because this, when 40, 50 years in the future, when they look back, they’ll all always have this record to say, this is what Fergie, this is what. You were doing in this time, , enlightening the masses and empowering people.

Right. That is why I said history will look back up on you and your team.

L. Scott Ferguson: Thank you. What you do. And you too, my friend. A hundred percent brother. So how can we find you Leroy?

Leroy Roberts: The, the easiest way? Just connect with me on LinkedIn at my name Leroy Roberts.

L. Scott Ferguson: Okay, gotcha. And that’s, I think that’s where you and I actually met.

Correct is on LinkedIn, right? And you do have a nice little link tree as well that , people can find you for a, a connection call. A disconnection fixing. Yeah, I mean, speaker, get this guy on your stage, especially if you’re over [00:39:00] there overseas, which I know I have a nice little following on the other side of the pond.

Get this guy on your stage now. You will not go wrong. So tell us a little bit about your coaching programs.

Leroy Roberts: Yeah, so the coaching program is definitely. About my core passion, which is really helping leaders fixing, disengage and disconnected teams and how you can really transform your working environment to ensure that you have an harmonious, cohesive team, dude, that is, is motivated.

L. Scott Ferguson: Yeah.

Leroy Roberts: And that is really contributing to the bottom line. And that’s what it’s all about. It’s solving. Issues, which is pretty much widespread, especially now in a digital age.

L. Scott Ferguson: Yeah, and and I love that you said harmonious because. A lot of people will say balance, and to me, balance is junk balance, 10 pounds, one side, 10 pounds.

The other it, it’s out. [00:40:00] It’s it. That’s just zero. Now you need balance within harmony, right? Mm-hmm. But like, I love jazz, dude. Like jazz is my thing, right? So like I think that God or spiritual is the drums. Personal growth might be the horns family, , is the piano and on and on through the different pillars of our life.

If one of them is out of tune. The music sounds like crap, but you don’t have to be fricking Jimmy Page on the guitar, Beethoven on the, , piano. But if you get a coach, like you bring back that harmony, right? Then you got some good sound of music again. You know what I’m saying? That’s what we’re here for, to build that harmony.

Now we do need the balance within the harmony. You still need to tune in the guitar and tune in the, the, the keys on the piano. But if you’re just looking for balance, dude, sorry. Ain’t gonna ever find it. Okay. Like you just said, harmonious. Find that harmony. Right. And you do have one-on-one coaching programs, correct?

Yes, I do. Okay.

Leroy Roberts: So one-on-one with coaching for, so for those people who. Want to have that personal time. You [00:41:00] want me to breathe life into what you do, then that will would definitely be an option open for you, and it can be tailored specifically to suit your needs.

L. Scott Ferguson: Love it. And that generally lasts how long?

Around eight weeks. I mean, it could be short and you said that you kind of can put it together, but generally eight weeks brother.

Leroy Roberts: Six to eight weeks generally, however it can be condensed because I do know that people in this space are quite busy and pressed for time. Right. So it was designed with flexibility in mind to give a more tailored offering.

Love it. And do you have group coaching as well? That’s correct. So for those people are more in favor of the group form. Sure. Then that’s also available and you can access that just the same.

L. Scott Ferguson: Like, would you recommend them kind of go through the one-on-one with you and then enter a group

Leroy Roberts: one-on-one is definitely if it’s something that suits you at this time, okay.

Would definitely recommend, because that’s when you got direct access to me, right? And you’re pulling on [00:42:00] me right there. And then as a resource personnel, right? And we create a, a, a different synergy in those one-on-one conversation, which you would not have access to within a group format.

L. Scott Ferguson: Love it. In, in the, the group format, sometimes you, you, you’ll have group formats and you help the people within there have you, but they can also help keep each other accountable.

Is that kind of a big thing within the groups?

Leroy Roberts: That’s correct. And, and what we do, so the, the group does help for that, but what the group was specifically designed for is to get people in. Who might not be in a position to access the one-on-one service at the time, it might not be a right fit for them.

And so the group option is there to ensure that everybody can have access.

L. Scott Ferguson: You can say it, the affordability of it, right? Correct. Love it. Okay. And.

Leroy Roberts: But the, the real gem, definitely for people who do sign up, both in the one-on-one and group community, they do have access to become a part of the mastermind program.

And [00:43:00] that’s where we have that strong community of people where you will constantly need to feed off each other and to be a part of a community where you can get that type of support going forward, which is very, very crucial in this space.

L. Scott Ferguson: I love that. The reason why I mentioned that,

Leroy Roberts: because most people think that this space is about once and done right?

That’s not the case. I have three letters for you, Mike Foxtrot, Mike Foxtrot Alpha. Okay? And the reason why I put that in is because you’ll need motivation, need. Constant feedback. And also you will need somebody there that you can go back to whenever you need a recharge. And that is why I do, of course, emphasize the importance of a community.

And you would know that Scott from

L. Scott Ferguson: Absolutely. Yeah. , it’s, and what I love is you keep the door open for whatever is gonna fit for them. So if they go into the group coaching, they level up, but then they want time with Leroy. [00:44:00] Straight up, then you would give ’em that option to have one-on-ones with you.

That’s, that’s, that’s the epitome of service, man. So I appreciate that. And Leroy, do me one last solid please. And leave us with one last knowledge nugget that we can take with us, internalize and take action on. Yes. So

Leroy Roberts: in the space that we are in, which has been badly disrupted by AI and technology, sure.

It remains. True to this day that what was once considered to be a soft skill is no longer soft. And I think no more than ever before the ability to communicate, the ability to connect on a human level is now critical. And the good thing is these skills can be learned and can be developed. And I would encourage anyone out there if you want to be relevant and useful in this day and age.

You definitely need to [00:45:00] invest in that area because that’s the one thing that will never be never

L. Scott Ferguson: in front of you if you invest in that area. Right. I love that. Yeah. Connection community is absolutely paramount. And squad, we just had, again, a really awesome, awesome masterclass. Well, my good friend Leroy Roberts is, he’s a person that was made by not only kindness, but also the cruelty of others.

He reminds us that who we should be and also not be like, can be learned through those, these two separate people. , a great coach is individual programs for each of his clients that has a burning desire to really lean into them, listen with his neck, to see what is going to work best for them, hold that mirror up, and then hold ’em accountable.

, adding value is key. To my good friend Leroy, a great coach, will create an environment of psychological safety to speak freely, to feel like he or she can just pour [00:46:00] out to the coach. And that way you can actually, again, psychological safety. I’ve never heard anyone say it squat. I’m gonna steal it from my boy Leroy and I’m gonna use this because that is exactly what I try to make them feel comfortable and psychologically say, good coach will not rob you of your agency.

 he, he like me, believes that responsibility is the ability to respond, not react, but to respond. And squad my good friend Leroy is planting trees. He is never gonna sit in the shade of, he’s just not going to, it’s gonna outlive him. Outlast him. Why? Because he does things for the intention and not the attention.

He’s not out there saying, look at me. Look at me. No. He actually is pouring into people. He believes that beliefs are transferrable and generational and, and. If they are, and it’s not serving you, let me make you warm, introduction to my good friend Leroy so he can help you break that chain, start a new belief cycle that will bleed down into your kids and their kids and whatnot.

So identify where you want to get to and [00:47:00] if you don’t know how to get your asking gear, there are people out there that want to be people of value. People that want, like my good friend Leroy, this you to see more in you than you could ever see. From, from yourself, you know? And lastly, connection on a human level is critical.

As we move into this Terminator age, the. Like AI taking over. And don’t, don’t get me wrong, it all has its place, but connection on a human level is critical. That’s why we’ll never ever leave this profession because I am a human being, human doing. I’m out there wanting to help important to people and so does my good friend Leroy, who levels up his health.

He levels up his wealth. He’s humble, yet hungry. He’s a handsome devil. He’s out there getting it done. He is earned his Varsity squad letter here at Time to Shine Today. Thank you so much for coming on Laro. Absolutely love your guts, man.

Leroy Roberts: No, thank you, Scott. You’re amazing and you’re a superstar.

L. Scott Ferguson: Thank you, man.

Talk soon. Okay.

Leroy Roberts: Thank

L. Scott Ferguson: you.

Leroy Roberts: All veryL. Scott Ferguson: best.

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