231-Embrace Pain to Avoid Suffering – TTST Interview with Human Performance Coach Brian Bogert

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Brian Bogert is a human behavior and performance coach, speaker, business strategist and philanthropic leader who helps people make their best even better. 

His revolutionary strategy—embrace pain to avoid suffering—has helped individuals and companies break beyond their normal to achieve the success in life and business that they’ve always wanted.

Don’t get stuck with what has happened to you, but be moved with what you can do with it

– Brian Bogert

Knowledge Nuggets and Take-Aways

1. Embracing pain to avoid pain, that is critical to your success

2. A great coach has relevance and credibility. Builds trust with the right words

3. We all have stories, pause and take the lessons you extract and be intentional on how they apply to your life 

4. Brian is known as someone who loves deeply, be authentic to who your are while providing service to others!

5. Joy, Freedom and Fulfillment!

Level Up! 

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Speech Transcript (very little editing so not exact)

Unknown Speaker  0:00  

Hey, this is Brian Bogert and if you really want to learn how to level up your life, you should be listening to the time to shine today podcast with my good friend Scott Ferguson time to shine today podcast

Unknown Speaker  0:09  

varsity squad. This is Scott Ferguson and we got my boy Brian Bogart, who’s all about embracing the pain to avoid the suffering. I’ll tell you what the first five minutes of this interview just had me rocked of what happened to him when he was seven years old, so I’m not going to share anything else. something tragic happened he blasted through it he leveled up and now he’s helps others level up. So like myself, break out your notebooks because I had two pages full chock full of notes. So sit back, relax, because here comes my really good friend Brian Bogart. Let’s level up.

Unknown Speaker  0:49  

Time to shine today podcast varsity squad. This is Scott Ferguson and I got my friend who will help you generate growth by making your best. Even better. A boy Brian Bogert here has a hell of a story. I don’t know it really I mean, I know it but I don’t know it because I privileged enough to hear it firsthand here in just a second. But Brian’s a human behavior and performance coach, speaker, business strategist and philanthropic leader who helps people make their best even better his revolutionary strategy embrace pain to avoid suffering. It’s helped individuals and companies break beyond their normal to achieve the success in life and business that they’ve always wanted. And Brian, thank you so much for coming on. Please introduce yourself the time to shine today podcast varsity squad, but first, what’s your favorite color? And why? Oh, man,

Unknown Speaker  1:37  

I didn’t see that coming. You know, it’s it’s got to be it’s a tie between blue and orange. It’s the brand colors because I just love them. They there’s something about the the calmness of blue and the bright vigor of orange that just complement each other. I mean, man, I’m rocking it. Dude, you’re right. It’s behind you to be that right?

Unknown Speaker  1:55  

Yeah. I love it. I love it, man. So welcome, man. It’s, it’s been a it’s, it’s a pleasure to have you on and it really want to get to your story, brother. And if you want to pull up your left sleeve, when you get into it, go right ahead, man, because I will be. So let’s rock. Let’s hear this.

Unknown Speaker  2:11  

Cool. So I’m gonna ask you and everybody who’s listening unless they’re driving, of course, you just close your eyes for one second. Okay, I want you to imagine going to a store. Having a successful shopping trip breezing through the checkout line, walking out the doors, looking up into the sky, feeling a sun hit your skin, the wind, blow through your hair, walking on, you just know you’re gonna have a great day. You get to your car, you fumble for your keys, you go to unlock the doors, you turn your head, and you see a truck barreling 40 miles an hour right at you with no time to react and open your eyes. For this portion of my story begins. Well, my mom, my brother and I went to our local Walmart to get a one inch paintbrush. As we read in the car. Anybody who’s known me for more than two minutes knows that I’m full of vigor excitement for life, my whole whole my whole life. So wasn’t a surprise I was the first one to the car because I want to get home and put that paintbrush to use right mom and brother three four feet behind had to wait for them to catch up and unlock the doors because this was back in the days before there was key fobs. So I had to wait for it but the physical key in as we were standing there, there was a truck that pulls up in front of the store, driver and middle passenger get out and the passenger all the way to the right feels the truck moving backwards. So he did when any one of us would do Scott he’s going to put his foot on the brake right. Combination of shock and force threw him up on the steering wheel up onto the dashboard and for you know he’s catapulting across the parking lot. 40 miles an hour ride out us with no time to react. Wow, we were parked in an N spot. So he hits he goes up into the media and up into the tree in the medium hits our car, knocks me over, runs over me diagonally tears my spleen leaves a tire drag scar on my stomach and continues on to completely sever my left arm from my body. Wow. So there I am laying on the parking lot on 115 degree day in Phoenix, Arizona. My mom and brother just watched the whole thing happen. They look up and they see my arm laying 10 feet away in the parking lot. She’s fortunately for me, my guardian angel also saw the whole thing happen. There was a nurse that walked out of the store right when this took place and she saw the literal life and limb scenario in front of her. And I’m forever indebted to this woman for choosing to go into action versus choosing to turn her head and go the other way. She came over and stopped the bleeding on the main wound and saved my life. And she instructed some innocent bystanders to run inside, grab a cooler, fill it with lights and get my detached arm on ice within minutes to give it a fighting chance of being reattached. If it wasn’t for this woman, I either wouldn’t be here with you today. Or I’d be here with you today with a cleaned up stump. That’s just the reality. Sure. So I know that our listeners weren’t expecting to go here today. I know I’ve got a really unique story. Yeah, I’m looking forward to unpacking the rest of this with you wherever we go. But I will tell you, what I’ve realized in all of our time of doing this is that we all have unique stories. What’s important is that we pause and become aware of the lessons we can extract from those stories and then become intentional with how do we apply them in our lives. And we all have the ability to do that. And we all have the ability to tap into the collective wisdom of other people’s stories.

Unknown Speaker  4:50  

Yes. Yes. And that’s what we kind of talk about here at time to shine today. Brian is actually with the stories is paused. Like you just said, and you said, kind of give intention to the story or what, let’s go back to what you just said there. Yeah,

Unknown Speaker  5:07  

become aware of the lessons you can extract from your stories, and then become intentional with how do you apply them in your lives? Wow, one of my core lessons and it wraps this concept together. One of my core lessons is I learned not to get stuck by what has happened to me, but instead get moved by what I can do with it. Yes, the only way you can do that is if you become aware of the lessons you can extract and become intentional with how do you apply them on a go forward basis?

Unknown Speaker  5:33  

How old were you, Brian? When this happened, brother, I was seven, you’re seven years old. Okay. So when you went through school, afterwards, was there any trauma PTSD that you had to really work through? Did you have a support group that or were people really, already supportive? And you looked at it like, Hey, man, I got this going on, and I’m just gonna level up from it.

Unknown Speaker  5:53  

Yeah, so Truthfully, I did not have any trauma or support groups. And in fact, I never even went to therapy, which is kind of an interesting thing. I’ve had some conversations about that now. But part of the reason is, is because when it happened, Scott, when I shut off physical pain, because it was well beyond my capacity to cope, I also shut off emotional pain. Well, I didn’t realize that until my 30s. And I also was in a position where I didn’t want to be the center of attention. I didn’t want to be the victim. And so I created an intellectual narrative right out of the gate, because I didn’t want to be defined or put into boxes, or viewed through what I was capable of based on somebody else’s lens on what they’d be capable of, in my scenario. Sure. So I created this narrative, right, which is I’m tough, I’m good. I’m strong, I can do anything by myself. And that served me really well, for a long time, until it did, right. For that entire period of recovery. During all my surgeries during a lot of the initial years afterwards. It was kind of like, just suck it up, go on with it and deal with what’s what’s in front of me. And so it wasn’t a great support. I did spend a year out of school, I had a hard school teacher who came in so transitioning back into school was definitely an adjustment. But man, it was a Yeah, I just kind of showed up and did what I needed to do, Brian,

Unknown Speaker  7:01  

if you don’t mind, how old are you, brother? I’m 3535. Okay, so that this happened? What in the 90s 92? Yeah, so it still wasn’t to that, like you said, there’s really no cell phones. There was no, yeah, okay. Yeah. And you didn’t have access to any of the support, you’re just kind of like, it’s crazy how we all survived. I’m 50. Or I’m 40 now be 50. So it’s crazy, when you kind of look back at that. It’s funny if it happened, not funny. But if it wouldn’t happen now, I just feel that, you know, there would be a lot more people come into the sport, just because stuff would be on social, you know what I’m saying? So you had to go through that dark moment. What was who’s the person where you had your guardian angel on the spot there, but who was the person that really made you kind of reflected in, you know, maybe respond in a leveling up kind of way?

Unknown Speaker  7:48  

So I would, I have to say it’s people, it’s my mom and my dad. Okay. You know, I would tell you that, you know, when I’m when I was laying there, even at seven I remember feeling like a victim. I remember feeling sorry for myself. I remember, you know, being like, Why me? And then we’ve got families in the ICU coming up, saying, We’re so sorry for what happened to We’re so sorry for what happened, what can we do to help and then come to find out their kids laying in the hospital bed next to me in the ICU with a terminal illness? Doesn’t know if they’re gonna live in under 30 days? Wow. Right. Other than the initial threat to my life, like I knew I was gonna be there. Right. And you know, my parents were the ones that really pushed that that’s where this other philosophy that you talked about came from, because at 789 10 1112 years old, I was really, although I was the one having the surgeries done to me, although I was the one doing doing the therapy. I was also in a fog because I was being guided through the process. Sure, whereas my parents were not right. They were intimately aware of the unceasing medical treatments, years of physical therapy. And they saw the idea of their son growing up without the use of his left arm as a source of great potential suffering, right? They willed themselves day in and day out to do what was necessary, what was tough to embrace, the pain is required to ultimately strengthen and heal me. And so that was one of the gifts they gave me because whether intentional or not, what they did was they ingrained in me a philosophy and a way of living, which was to embrace pain, to avoid suffering. And I believe that when we do this appropriate in our life, that’s also where we gain freedom.

Unknown Speaker  9:01  

Let’s go deeper with that man embrace pain to avoid suffering, because I know it’s kind of a credo of your business. So can we go deeper on that brother?

Unknown Speaker  9:08  

Yeah. So first, I think we need to understand right the world tells us to reduce eliminate or avoid pain, right? That’s literally the narrative of the world and I’m telling you the world is wrong. We need to learn to embrace pain is a critical path to our success. We need to understand the difference between pain and suffering to start with, right. So pain is defined as short term, intermittent, a direct cause from something and then alleviated once that direct causes removed. Sure. And and suffering is something that we adapt to slowly over time. Pain, what we also do is we put adjectives in front of it, we don’t overly define it by saying acute or chronic, which changes the definition, acute doesn’t but chronic does because it implies that it’s no longer short term, and it persists after that direct causes removed. Let’s stop calling that chronic pain. Let’s call that suffering. Let’s call it what it is. Sure, we don’t want to admit that suffering exists, particularly when it’s a direct result of our choices. Whereas pain gets lots and lots of attention. So we want to avoid it and it’s a natural evolutionary response to do so. But let’s understand this concept. We can embrace the pain of hitting the gym for 30 minutes a day sure to avoid the suffering of aches and pains from sedentary lifestyle, absolutely embrace the pain of a difficult conversation with a loved one or spouse to avoid the suffering of being stuck in a loveless marriage, that’s going to end in divorce or being stuck in a marriage, when you really want divorce, we can embrace the pain of the fit our kids are sure to throw by having them put down their mobile devices at the dinner table, avoid the suffering of years of loss, meaningful connection and conversation will never get back. as business owners, we can embrace the pain of firing our top salesperson who’s contributing the most to top line growth, to avoid the suffering of stagnant growth and losing all our other top talent because they were the greatest cancer in our culture. Right? See the list goes on? Sure. The list goes on. And this can apply to everything in our life.

Unknown Speaker  10:38  

Sure. Okay. So then when you leveled up and moved into the Brian bokor companies is what was that moment that made you say, boom, you know, that’s what we’re gonna do, brother.

Unknown Speaker  10:52  

Yeah. So it started with when we first had kids, six months went by went by and I was not the husband and father that I thought I was always going to be that I said, I was always going to be I hired my first coach a month into working with him. He said, You got to be doing this. And I said, yeah, whatever, buddy, I’m paying a lot of money, not to tell me how great I am. But tell me figure out these things. He’s like, No, dude, like, you build people, you build businesses like this is what you do. So he tripled it. And I jumped in. And I started this other business alongside, you know, a $15 million risk management Employee Benefit consulting business that myself, my partners, and I built over the last 10 years. And I ran it side by side until summer of 2019, when my wife and I had a beautiful weekend. And as we’re headed to pick back up our kids, she said, How would you feel if you didn’t have to go to the office on Monday morning? I looked over and I was like, Whoa, it’s pretty loaded questions here. Why don’t you tell me more? And she said, Well, I think you allowed fear to enter into your world with some other health stuff I had gone on a few years back in a way I’ve never seen you operate. you’ve convinced yourself, you need the money, the status, the procedures, the security of this larger entity. She said, I don’t care if we live in a cardboard box in the corner, what we need is 100% of you. She said, I also know that the more time you spend in coaching and speaking, the more I know, that’s where you’re meant to be. She said I don’t think you’re even scratching the surface your potential, nor do I think you’re having the impact on the world that you want. And she essentially said, there’s nobody on this planet she’d rather take a bet on than me, we’d already taken a big bet. And it paid off. And she said, Why don’t we double down on the Brian bovard stock and go see what we can do. And so that’s what kind of started to unpack it. And that’s when I made the decision that, you know, we were going to start committing the rest of our energy resources and time towards impacting a billion lives by 2045. So what makes a great coach, I think a great coach is somebody who has relevance and credibility, I think a great coach is somebody who can resonate and connect and build trust. And I think a great coach is somebody who understands the right perspective, the right words, and can extract the best out of people. I don’t think it’s about me prescribing a path. I think it’s about taking people on an intrinsic journey to define their own. That’s the work many people haven’t done. I think a good coach can keep you accountable. I think a good coach can kick you in the ass. And I think a good coach can pick you up and give you a hug when you need it. How do they do that knows when you need which one, right? And so it takes a level of emotional intelligence. And when I say relevance and credibility, coaches are in multiple different categories. So you’re relevant credibility towards what the person needs coaching in, I’m not gonna go coach on health coaching, right? Like, I’m not gonna go in somebody in a gym, I’m not gonna coach somebody on nutrition. I’m, that’s not my realm of expertise. Right, right. But I do have a realm of expertise, which is helping people discover who they are love it. But it’s about finding the right coach, and you can have 10 coaches that are in the same space and only one it has the relevance and credibility that connects to you your story what you need. So I know for a fact I’m not the right coach for anybody, even though I’m a great coach. Right? So great question.

Unknown Speaker  13:30  

So you’re in your discovery period, with somebody as you bring him in on a one on one, what is your secret sauce over there at Burger companies, if you don’t mind sharing them, maybe help them identify their blind spot?

Unknown Speaker  13:46  

Yeah, so I think most people think they’re stuck because of the wrong strategy or tactics in their life. And although we work with strategy and tactics through our process, what we know is that strategy and tactics will only get you so far. Right? Right. And that’s not typically what keeps you stuck. What we know is that what keeps most people stuck in operating from their best level of performance is a combination of emotional triggers, behavioral patterns, and environmental conditioning. What we do a really good job of is helping unpack what has shaped people to today, bring it to a place of conscious awareness so that they can be intentional about it moving forward, so that they can escape things like shame, fear, guilt, anxiety, right scarcity, worth, there’s things that literally keep people stuck in that self defeating path. And it’s usually emotional triggers behavioral patterns and dynamic conditioning. So until we can bring those into a place where we can do something about them. We’re going to constantly repeat the patterns in our life.

Unknown Speaker  14:38  

That’s, that’s fantastic. You’re doing go cookie cutter on that and I appreciate that. So if you’re bringing that somebody will stay in the discovery period with them, you’re bringing somebody in, is there any good question that you wish they would ask you but never do

Unknown Speaker  14:53  

before they hire us or after before That is a really good question returned to me. Yeah, no, I like it a lot. And no, I’ve never been asked that question. I think that what I wish people would ask is to really understand what they can expect from the

Unknown Speaker  15:17  

other. That’s exactly what I say, Be like, Dude, what do you expect from me? That’s what I would want. They’ll get like my clients, I coach, I want them to be on board with it. Because you and I know that coaching isn’t consulting, you know, we’re not telling them what to do. We’re asking them direct powerful questions for them to figure it out on their own. So they’ve got to be interactive. They got to do I thank you for saying that. Dude, you’re one of my best friends right now, dude.

Unknown Speaker  15:43  

Well, I mean, it’s the truth. Right? Here’s the thing, though, I have limited time. Yeah, and I don’t want to coach people that aren’t 100% engaged. And I also want to make sure that if there’s a misalignment with what we can deliver, right, I want to tell him right up front, like, I’m not the coach for you. In fact, most people that I interview I start with, I’m likely not the coach. That’s not a sales technique. That’s just trying to be honest. I don’t have any expectations, right, other than if and how I can help. And that’s what we’re going to discover in this process. I have to drive them there versus respond to a question.

Unknown Speaker  16:18  

Yeah. And I love the transparency with that, because that’s why I started this podcast, because I’m not the right horse for every course. But I have interviewed 200 plus coaches that might be and that’s where I like to give give given to hurt so good, and bring you into the stable as well. I love it. I love it. I love it. You said

Unknown Speaker  16:33  

something so powerful. I’ve never heard anybody else said, Look, my wife and I’ve said for years that we give until it hurts. Yeah, yeah, we give until we feel it. Yeah. And I mean that with time, energy, resources, money, relationships, like that, to me is where it becomes meaningful, right? Never heard anybody else say give until it hurts. I think that’s powerful. The thing I learned as well, because it bit me for a while. I hadn’t learned how to receive to be able to give it the level that I want, dude,

Unknown Speaker  16:59  

I get that a lot, even with myself. But you know what, Bob Berg, he wrote the go giver. And he’s my neighbor. And he’s like, dude, we’re at launch. And he’s like, you see that plant over there? He’s like, you know what we breathe in oxygen. We read that what? carbon dioxide, right? That plant breathes in what carbon dioxide breeze I’d actually say do there’s given take everywhere you gotta be open to receiving. So I really appreciate you saying that. So Brian, I’m at a networking event here in South Florida, which we’re allowed to, because we’re coming up on like 10,000 days and COVID quarantine and stuff. But I’m pressing flash meeting people. And I’m listening. I’m two ears one mouth for a reason God gave me they’re talking to me. I’m in a one on one situation. What are they saying that would make them a good prospect contact or connection for you? Yeah,

Unknown Speaker  17:48  

I would say that I often work with business owners, entrepreneurs and executives who don’t know who they are. One of the things I say as well in my one to one work. And I’m going to differentiate this slightly, because what we do really well is helping people discover who they are. But in my one to one work, I often say that I take giants and turn them into legends by helping them grab what they think is just out of their grasp. So often, we think that what we want is unattainable impossible. And we feel stuck or stymied on our efforts to get it and so often it’s right in front of us. And so I think that there’s individuals who feel stuck stymied in their efforts to fill their potential, and they don’t know where to go. And they don’t need another seven step system to show them the way to create money and success. Right. They’re really looking to bring joy, freedom and fulfillment back into their lives. So everything can rise. Yeah. Because aligned with who we are the what’s in our life become a manifestation of the who, yeah, and it also means that we get to move faster with less effort. And so those people I work with are the ones that are ready to go to that next level.

Unknown Speaker  18:39  

And I love it. And it’s like, there’s a lot of them are ready to give up. You know, they’re like, right there. Like you just said, there. They just need to you get that blind spot of the way so they can grab us out of that grass. That’s awesome. And so have you saw Back to the Future? Oh, yeah. Okay, let’s get in that DeLorean with Marty McFly. Let’s go back to the 21 year old Brian bolgar. You’ve already went through some trauma. It’s maybe halfway between between your trauma where you’re at right now. What kind of knowledge nuggets what we call him here. Time to shine today? What kind of knowledge nuggets would you be dropping on the 2122 year old Brian maybe help them level up, blast through maybe shorten a little bit of a learning curve? Yeah, so

Unknown Speaker  19:21  

I think because when I shut off emotions, when I shut off physical pain, right when I shut off emotional pain I was I was blind to how important emotions are as it relates to human connection. Right? I had this period of time where I told you I created this intellectual narrative. And when I told you it bit me It bit me when I went snowboarding and re broke my left arm and had it hanging by my side for 10 months when I was 20. I realized I almost lost it again. Yeah, I went through 10 search or seven surgeons were all afraid to touch me finally got it repaired after 10 months. But during that period of time I realized the power of our intellectual narratives because I had a lot of people in my Life who loves me who were there for me, but nobody showed up. And it’s not because it’s not because they didn’t love me or care for me, it’s because they bought into my narrative. And it’s because I didn’t have the courage and one of my most vulnerable periods of my life to actually ask for help. So I shifted that whole next period of my life towards human connection. And I focused on authenticity and vulnerability. Yeah, vulnerability and authenticity, which I think are the glue that binds human connection. And I bastard that I really did, I opened it up, I built this human connection, but it was another 13 years after that emotion started to come into my life in a way that it never had. And I realized that human connection without emotion isn’t really human connection, right? The only thing we’re studying on this planet, as far as I’m concerned, not the only there’s a whole lot. But if there’s one thing that somebody really wants to study, it’s people. Sure. Well, I’m an expert in human behavior, human performance and the way people operate. I would have doubled down on that at 21. Had I known that and I would have doubled down on my exploration around understanding emotion, way back when

Unknown Speaker  20:55  

all right so you’re such you’re young dude, still 35? How do you want your dash? Remember that little line in between your incarnation date, your expiration date, then how do you want Brian’s dash room?

Unknown Speaker  21:09  

I want to be remembered as a husband as a father who loved deeply who allowed and supported my family first, to be authentic to who they are, and use that platform to be able to inspire, elevate and empower people across the planet to bring joy, freedom and fulfillment into their lives. I want to reduce the level of suffering on our planet, when we talk about impacting a billion lives. That’s how that starts to take place. so that people can stand on their own two feet, not only confident but convicted in who they are, and know that the world will not only accept them, but embrace them for who they are. And I’ll be remembered for moving that needle at all. That will be a life well lived.

Unknown Speaker  21:43  

Yeah, man, you’re doing it step by step. But we say inch by inch. It’s a cinch, you know, by the yard. It’s hard. You’re doing that you’re doing it, you’re doing it. So Brian, what keeps you up at night?

Unknown Speaker  21:54  

You know, not a whole lot. Truthfully, I feel like at this point in my life, I’ve gotten myself very aligned. What keeps me up at night is you know, those those fabricated fears should exist in the future. Right? Fear is fabricated. So I try not to live there. And I try to just be in the moment and you know, I’ve got tattooed on my arm. I try to trust surrender and breathe as much as I can do that when I can put myself in my mind and my body and realize that what we have is right now. I don’t I don’t lose a lot of sleep because I can’t control the future. All I can control is the now got it.

Unknown Speaker  22:29  

So curious, what what acronym Do you use for fear?

Unknown Speaker  22:33  

I don’t use an acronym for fear. What I see a lot of teachers do. I just was I don’t know, I don’t I say that fear is often fabricated. Sure. But I do think that fear can also give us feedback if we’re listening and it can hone our focus. Sure. And I also believe that all the greatest things in life are on the other side of fear, fun, freedom and fulfillment. So that’s what I talked about is I don’t use an acronym, but I will use a little alliteration, sure around fear because I think it’s something that we need to start to understand better. It’s not about reducing it or eliminating it. It’s about understanding it, feeling it and choosing to do it anyway. Because bravery is not the absence of fear. It’s doing it in spite of embracing it. Like you’re always saying, embrace the suffering, right?

Unknown Speaker  23:08  

Or embrace the pain to avoid the suffering. I love that I love it. I always use face everything and respond. You I’m saying that’s what I use. But that’s just my jam. But so what do you think people misunderstand about you the most?

Unknown Speaker  23:24  

You know, I think that I live my life pretty authentically. So I wouldn’t say that. This happens today. But a long time in my life, I was really, really misunderstood. And it was also partially because of what I put off. I think I put off this arrogant tone for a large period of my life because I have a very strong energy and I were a little guarded. And that armor created a perception of arrogance, which is not something I’ve ever felt or experienced. Got it. But that was the impression that it gave people so I think I’ve turned a lot of people off in the beginning in different periods of my life. Sure. And if they spend more than five minutes with me, they realize that that’s not something that is really there. If all they’re gonna give me is the 90 seconds that many people get their first impression on. I may not get past that first gate. I think I found a way to overcome that to some degree but I also still have a huge energy and there’s a lot of people that don’t quite know how to respond or how real or not real I am which is why I try to live as absolutely pure and authentic to who I am and be as vulnerable as I can on every platform possible. sure that what you see is what you get regardless of where you consume me in person on video on from stage What have you

Unknown Speaker  24:35  

be authentic, I love it. I love it. So let’s take out our out of out of the equation your cell phone, your tablet, your laptop, desktop, take out anything electronic, what are three things Brian can’t live without. Wow.

Unknown Speaker  24:52  

You are asking great questions. I would say my I would say my journal which is a recent appreciate Okay, I would say my bike, a bike of some sort mountain biker road bike, I need movement and I need something that I can move with energy. And then you know the obvious I’m gonna say this is this is the truth. It’s I mean, this should have been the first one I say should not to shame myself but just it’s the truth. It was the first thought I had is my wife and my kids absolutely man with

Unknown Speaker  25:26  

I always say when they people usually say it first, right? And I’m like, that’s given. I should I should start saying leave out the family. But no, I appreciate it. I appreciate that. So what is your definition of life? Well lived on joy, freedom and fulfillment of that man that was fast. And joy freedom I’m writing that down man. Fulfill meant Hey, time to shine today podcast varsity squad. We’re back in. I don’t know, man. I got pages of notes for my boy here. Brian and I have just blown away man, the guy that faced adversity at a young age, but there’s a lot of demons that kind of creep in. But he just crushed them and he is how he’s crushing them. He’s helping others level up. And we’re gonna take them through our leveling up lightning round. And Brian, you and I could talk a half hour, hour, hour and a half on each one of these questions. I’m going to ask you we got five seconds with no explanation. Deal. Deal. Dang, you ready? All of them can be answered quick brother. All right. Let’s level up what’s the best leveling up advice Brian’s ever received? know who you are? Yes. Sure. One of your personal habits that contributes to your success. daily meditation I love it. Other than your website, which is Brian Bogart calm which will be in the show notes and of course time to shine today calm I shameless plug. What website is Brian go to the level up? I’m gonna say YouTube. I’m just gonna say YouTube or Google. It I was gonna say YouTube because it’s not a defined. It’s not like that always the same place. Right, right. So you see me? Your walk around me like hey, Fergie. Looks like he’s in his doldrums, man. Like, what book? Are you handing me?

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I didn’t even hear the question. Can you say one more time? I’m sorry.

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Yeah, you see me walk in. You’re like man, Fergie’s, his body language your coach. So you read the nonverbal? Body language, everything. He’s just not right. What book are you handing me?

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It’s one of two. Either the obstacle is the way or dare to lead. Yes. Well, all of them love them. What’s your most commonly used emoji? Brian? Probably the thumbs up or the heart. Love it. Chess or checkers. checkers.

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You kidding me? Baby. favorite charity and organization like to give your time or money to?

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I’m gonna say Society of St. Vincent DePaul here in Phoenix, Arizona. Beautiful,

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local. Love it. Love it. Last question. And you can elaborate a little bit on this one. But what’s the best decade of music 6070s 80s or 90s? The best decade of music? Who? I’m gonna say the 70s 70s do we can jam. All right, very cool. Because I actually I’m born in 72. So I heard all of that, like, you know, smelling the funky stuff in the air and stuff like that. Listen to music, but I got to look at m&a these guys. So, but no, I love that. Brian. How can we find your brother? Yeah, so

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you already said the website. You can also find me at Bogert Brian on any of the social media channels. Again, to impact a billion lives we know that 99.9999999% will never pay us $1 we’re very okay with that. So we put a lot of free content out just to help add the impact in people’s lives. So consume it and the only thing I ask is if anything really resonates share it. Because that’s how that’s how we’re gonna have the ripple effect is through collective impact.

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Got it. You have any seminars, books or anything coming out that we can get out?

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You know what, I don’t have anything right now short term, we do have a whole bunch of products and launches and different things that are coming in. So I’d say just stay tuned on the website and have some time there.

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Keep us tuned in man, we got it. We got a list of subscribers that want to definitely gonna be able to use this stuff and Brian didn’t leave one solid and leave us with one last Knowledge Nugget we can take with us internalize and take action.

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I think a lot of people right now are waiting for a hero or a savior to come into their lives to fix everything. And I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but nobody’s coming. The only person that can save you the only person that can be your hero is you. The thing you’ve got to realize is that if you’re listening to this today you are a survivor because you are still here you’ve been knocked on your ass before you’ve stood yourself back up. And so instead of looking at yourself and feeling stuck with what’s right in front of you remind yourself of what you’ve already overcome. Don’t look for a hero or a savior look for a guide if you don’t know how to go there that’s not a plug for coaching that’s just saying find help you do it but you and only you are the only one that can set you free.

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Love it in squad we just got a free masterclass from my good friend here. Brian Bulger who literally was in a life and limb situation action, his first hero that he was probably the nurse that came out and took action in that situation, you know, and then he’s gonna remind us that we all have unique stories. We need to pause take those lessons extracted Good and be intentional how you apply those into your life. We want you to brace pain to avoid suffering. And remember that’s a critical path to your success. You know, he wants you to understand that anything you want is on the other side of fear. You have a great coach is going to be have relevance and credibility. And he’s going to build trust with the right powerful questions to help you unlock your greatness.

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You know, if you don’t know who you are, and you want to get to that next level, let’s say you’re a giant that wants to become a legend. You’re

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really good in your community in your work. You want to become a legend let us make a warm introduction to my good friend Brian here. You know, emotions and human connections are intertwined He wants us to remember and if you get stuck, like my good friend, Leah Woodford who lives in Phoenix, which I got to introduce Brian to she always told me get your asking gear. Get out there, ask the questions. You know, he’s gonna be remembered as someone that love deeply is very authentic to who he is, and he helped others level up. Joy, freedom and fulfillment is his definition of a life well lived. And lastly, be your own hero. And that’s what Brian is held Brian’s a hero to me now. He levels up as healthy levels up as well. He’s humble yet he’s hungry. He’s earned his varsity squad letter here. Thank you so much, Brian, for coming on. dropping some serious knowledge dogs. We look forward to collaborate with you in the future brother. Likewise, thank you, Scott. You bet, bro. By now. Hey, thanks so much for listening to this episode of time to shine today podcast, proudly brought to you by southern New Jersey real estate real estate excellence that can be reached at 561-249-7266 and online at www dot Sutter in nugent.com. If you’re a business owner or professional who would like to be interviewed on time to shine today, please visit time to shine today.com flash guest. If you liked this episode, please subscribe on Apple podcasts, Google podcasts, Stitcher, Spotify, I Heart Radio or wherever you get your podcast. There’s a link in the show notes to our website. Also there you will see our recommended resources. We hope that you will support our show by supporting them. If you like what you’ve been listening to, it’d be great if you could just give us a five star rating and tell your friends to subscribe while you’re at it. I’m your host Scott Ferguson. And until next time, let’s level up it’s our time to shine

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