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L. Scott Ferguson: [00:00:00] ………Time To Shine Today podcast varsity squad it’s Scott Ferguson and welcome to an awesome episode with my good friend and

kind of some Home cooking here in South Florida, Angeline Gillings. She was referred to me by one of my besties for the resty Berta Medina. And I’m so glad that she did. And Angeline Gillings is a rockstar coach.

She’s somebody that is built on empathy. She’s built on transparency. She’s built on honesty. And that’s what I got. I had pages and pages of notes after interviewing her during the interview. And it just made so easy for me to leave the interview and I actually felt like I went through a coaching session.

Someone that pauses and reflects and realizes that everybody has a path. She respects that path, but she’ll help them be that GPS, that guide for that path. So again, break out your notebooks, sit back and relax, because here comes my really good friend Angeline Gillings from APMG Coaching. Let’s level up.

Time to shine today. Podcast Varsity Squad. This is Scott Ferguson. And I have a little bit of a home [00:01:00] cooking here in South Florida with my good friend Angeline Gillings. And she was referred to me by a super awesome sauce friend of mine and hers, Berta Medina. So Berta, if you’re out there, thank you so much for this introduction because I know you listen to the show.

But Angeline’s Passion lies in empowering individuals to achieve their full potential by harnessing their innate strengths and capabilities of self actualization and personal fulfillment. As a business coach, Angeline supports business leaders by guiding them through exploratory discussions and assessment tools to identify their key areas of And I am so stoked to bring Angelina because she’s such good energy.

She’s so much fun. Again, we’re both fellow Floridians here here in the sunny state, at least it’s sunny today, state of south Florida. And Angelina, thank you so much for coming out. Please introduce yourself to time to shine today. Podcast varsity squad, but first. What’s your favorite color and why?

Angeline Gillings: Oh my gosh, that’s, that’s, that’s tricky.

But [00:02:00] red is definitely up there. Ah, I love red and you’re rocking it today. Yeah, red is definitely up there.

L. Scott Ferguson: And if you’re watching on Vimeo or YouTube, you can see she’s a stunning woman and classy, and she’s got it all put together. And I just love that she, she carved the time to come in here and drop some serious knowledge nuggets on y’all out there.

But Angeline, let’s get kind of get to the roots of kind of where you started with, with, I guess in life and whatnot, but also moving forward into, , AMPG to really helping people level up their lives.

Angeline Gillings: Yes. Well, after I shouldn’t really say this, right? Because then, but I I’m going to say it because I’m very proud of that after 30 plus years.

In in corporate, I, I, I left corporate and I, it was actually at the beginning of the pandemic. So, , it was really a tricky time and I was trying to decide what to do. Based [00:03:00] on just for the love of what I was doing in corporate. I, I was in marketing. I headed the marketing in a global space. And so I, I had some thoughts around what I wanted to do.

Now I’ll tell you, I’m not one of those persons. I stick to my comfort zone and I like something that’s predictable and one of that. Predictability concern would have been income when you’re in corporate, what you’re getting every, every month, what that is. And, and so that I was holding onto that because I, I just wasn’t ready to step out in this unknown in many different factors.

And eventually it led me after thinking and going back and having some revelation, spiritual and otherwise, I decided that, Hey, I wanted to support people. And that came from [00:04:00] my feeling somewhat guilty because I am a hard worker. I work very hard. I committed a lot in corporate. And I felt that I. Did not give back as much as I wanted to, and that was, that was a big trigger for me to be able to, to give back while making an impact influence and income for sure.

I’m not going to hide that. So yeah, that was a trigger for me.

L. Scott Ferguson: I love it. So did you work kind of corporate and also start building AMPG? No, no, no. Yeah. It

Angeline Gillings: was a clean, , like corporate pause because the pandemic cause, , cause me to pause, but but that pause was good because it was a time of reflection.

For me

L. Scott Ferguson: love that And I love that you said pausing and reflection because that’s a lot of times when i’m taking clients through coaching sessions that’s the pause is where a lot of the Yes, [00:05:00] the the nit and gritty kind of comes out right? That’s right. I love it. So how scary was it?

Angeline Gillings: How scary? Yeah. Oh, very, very, very scary.

I remember sitting and another part of the being scary was while I was head of marketing, my, the culture of the company that I was with, the, the, Senior executives, they were the face of the business. So I was the person behind the scene doing all the, , the leading the team, my team and myself in terms of the brand work and really making a good thing out there.

But it’s our leaders who were out there. And I love that. I love doing what I, I didn’t like the limelight . Okay. And, and so here was this, me stepping out now and saying, alright, so I wanted to support people and I wanted to find a way to [00:06:00] support people that I was doing this behind the scene. And, and the scary part is when I started, I realized that there was no way that I was going to be successful.

If I didn’t set up myself to shine and shining mean that I was going to be out there.

L. Scott Ferguson: Yeah, and the thing is what people don’t know about me is I I’m an introvert. Like, I love my time. I love behind the scenes stuff. But I also was blessed with a gift from God to really have a voice. , when I’m on stage, my nickname’s a boomer because I, I, one time I had Carry 600 people in an audience with no mic because it went out so I can really bring it.

But you’ll also see me at a sushi restaurant or anywhere, just sitting by myself and really re pausing, reflecting and relaxing. So it’s, it’s nice. Cause I had a coach that really said, listen, you need to unleash this onto people. Like people need to hear what you have to say, and I’m glad that [00:07:00] you took that step.

So I know that your company’s EMPG, why don’t you tell us a little bit about what goes on at EMPG?

Angeline Gillings: Yeah. Well, what good is it’s about coaching primarily. I, and again, the scary part, I like coaching because it was behind the scene, but as I came out and started to really work in the field, I realized that.

There were opportunities around speaking and training. I did training in my professional life. I was kicking and screaming when I had to do it, but I realized how much it has helped me know. Right. And, and speaking. And interestingly, speaking is what has risen to the top in terms of what I’m doing a lot of, and I, I find that.

I’m passionate. I’m always, but I’m, I’m passionate when I’m speaking and I get good feedback. And I said, Oh my gosh, , here, am I [00:08:00] starting out wanting to be in the back and MPG was about coaching and supporting people in the background so they can shine and, and it’s still my mandate. They are the ones to shine, but yes.

So a MPG is It’s, it’s my initials and, but I have many spins to it. Amplified. Yeah. Even better.

L. Scott Ferguson: Tell us the acronym for it.

Angeline Gillings: Yes. A M P G. It’s about amplified growth. And if we go by letters, it’s authentic, meaningful, purposeful growth.

L. Scott Ferguson: Yeah, that is awesome. That did you kind of come up with that? Or is it something that someone said to you?

Or did you put it in chat GPT? Like, how did that kind of come up?

Angeline Gillings: No, no, no, I, I struggled with different names. I love your name. Yeah. Yeah. Struggled with different versions. And then A MPD came up and then the amp, when I got the amp, I said, oh yeah, that is the amp. [00:09:00] I need to do that . Okay, so the P is my maiden name.

Okay. And may, so I said I love Amp, and then I added the G because the G can take so many, , grow. I love it. Amp it up. I love it. Yes. So I, I actually, I actually made that up and I, the letters, no, as I, , you have to do these like profile about yourself and these words kept coming up from me and also feedback.

And, and I said, Hey, here’s a authentic is one of my major personality trait and And, and so I found that those letters fit nicely with my own elements that describe me.

L. Scott Ferguson: Fantastic. So when you’re coaching somebody, or maybe you’re in a discovery period, kind of one on one with somebody is what is some of your secret sauce, if you don’t mind sharing to help them maybe start like, identify that initial blind spot.[00:10:00]

Angeline Gillings: The first, the first thing is the rapport. To really build that rapport and, and find something that connects. I find that there are different things that you hear my accent. I’m from Jamaica originally. I love it. And, and that, that could be a starting point. A lot of times it’s a starting point and we have persons who have visited.

So it’s building that rapport and warming up and, and letting, letting the prospect. Feel that this is not a sell job and it’s really not a sell job because I’m not good at selling, by the way. So it’s not a sell job and, and get, get them to start speaking. And then the conversation transitions. If we’re doing that well, the conversation transitions easily into, Hey, why you started business?

What were you thinking about? What was your vision? Take them the vision. Yeah, it’s just like, it’s a conversation and, and it’s about. Making them feel that [00:11:00] you really care. You really want to hear the stories behind the business. I love that you’re digging into them and not trying to shine you on them, right?

L. Scott Ferguson: Because it’s about them. I can, I can just see you in, , a session really listening in and listening with all your senses, not just. What they’re saying, but listening, seeing their mannerisms and I, and I call that listening with your neck because you’re really leaning in that. I love that. So, actually, if you’re maybe in still in the discovery, , session while you’re kind of talking is, , kind of building up making sure you’re the right, right, , coach for them is, Is there any good question that you wish they would ask you, but never do?

Angeline Gillings: Oh, they probably it’s, I would say after sharing a lot, it’s. They are probably more interested [00:12:00] in thinking that I want to sell them. So they want to get to that as to, okay, , what are you offering? What? And I’m, it’s more about, , what is it about you and your background that make you think that you, you are able to support me?

Yes. And, and, and so. It’s a way of bringing me in, but bringing me in their perspective, what they want to learn and not what I want to tell them.

L. Scott Ferguson: That is amazing. Because I mean, first of all, they have to be coaching, right? I mean, whoever it is, they have to be coachable. But what is it about Angeline that makes you feel that you can be that support system to me, that you can, , help me pause, reflect, and really move forward?

I love that. Love that. So then Angeline, what do you feel makes a great coach?

Angeline Gillings: Listening. That’s the first thing, that’s the first thing. And just, and the second thing is that, that you truly care, but that’s [00:13:00] probably attached to listening also, because if you really care, you’re going to, you’re going to want to listen and this is not about you.

And interestingly, the technicalities are, are what come really last, you know. Yeah. Oh, wow. That’s crazy. That’s so true. Yeah. For me, anyway, at the end, it’s, it’s really, yes, I want to know, how can you help me here? And, and we also have to be so careful that we get so attached with this personality and understanding and rapport also that I too may forget to say, Hey, I have skill sets.

I’m I’ve been successful in business and, and for that to come through, that is important. But the first thing is to let them feel comfortable that you understand their needs, what their concerns are and, and that you want to make a difference.

L. Scott Ferguson: Love it. And what do you feel your strengths

are? Oh,

Angeline Gillings: I it’s, it’s [00:14:00] everything our own people.

Okay. Yeah, I, I am empathetic, I am caring and I’m authentic and, and it’s natural . Yes. I trying to find a way to say it all the way

L. Scott Ferguson: that that’s, that’s how it is. First time that we had a, a talk a few months ago and we were just kind of having our own little discovery conversation. It was, I, I got that from you.

You are who you are when you show up. This is where you are, whether you’re in front of me. Or you’re out having beverages with the ladies and just hanging out. So I love that about you. That that’s fantastic. How about weaknesses? What are you really looking to really turn up and lean into for yourself?

Angeline Gillings: All right. So it probably ties back again with my just not wanting to be out there a lot. And and if someone wants to, I’ve heard it a few times in different ways. [00:15:00] Get out of your head, get yourself out of your head. I’d be saying something like, gosh, so if, when I’m listening back to this podcast, I probably said, Oh my gosh, I don’t know what to hear.

And so, and, and, , the point has been made, Hey, you, you talk about your audience. There are thousands, probably a million listening. And, and so me getting caught up with. How my, how I sound and, and guess what, there are going to be thousands who are, and maybe more who will listen to this and guess that they don’t have the issues that I’m having.

L. Scott Ferguson: Sure. And there’s thousands of them that will never take the leap and do what you do. Exactly. , so you’re just to have that courage. To really take that radical leap into this pool, which it’s a crowded pool But what I noticed about what you’re saying is you’re not so much a consultant even though you walked that path I, I, you, you’re a real [00:16:00] coach.

Like I don’t consult because if I was, I work with a lot of C suite people, a lot of C suite people, and , first of all, they think they’re going to, I’m going to come in and tell them how to do business. I don’t know their business. They forgot more about their business than I’ll ever know, but. I know that everybody knows what they want.

They just don’t know how to talk themselves into it, right? And so I can help. Once I find that, then they’re on the road. Once they feel, Oh man, he’s not trying to tell me how to do my work. Because I’ll tell you this 90 percent of the time when I coach people and they want to increase their production at work, it’s, it’s usually something that’s going on 1 Exactly.

That

Angeline Gillings: is so true. You start off the convo, , somewhere in the conversation you say, so what are the main challenges you have? And they may tell you some things and you say, tell me more, tell me more, tell me more. And as they tell you more and more, you realize that it was not what they said initially.

L. Scott Ferguson: Yeah, exactly. A lot of times when they. Most powerful questions I ask people is, , , we’re still [00:17:00] trying to dig deep and see where that root causes or whatnot, or what their main challenges is. I mean, what’s your morning routine? Because then it takes them home. , it takes, oh man, kids are get all over the place.

They’re going to school. Me and my husband are barely speaking. Then I can kind of take that. And just find out what it’s there and that’s, that’s what I love. Cause then they can take that power and then roll it over into their corporate life. That’s beautiful. I can just see you doing that in spades.

That’s, that’s beautiful. So let me ask you something, Angelina, have you seen the movie back to the future?

Angeline Gillings: No, no, I’m not a movie person. So it’s

L. Scott Ferguson: about this guy that goes back in time, right? And so if you could go back to the 22 year old, , Angeline, is there anything you would do, not to change anything, because your journey’s been pretty awesome, but to maybe help her shorten her learning curve or blast through maybe just a little bit quicker?

Angeline Gillings: I would, yeah, I would say, well, I was [00:18:00] much more shy. That’s, that’s one thing for sure. All right. So I would have stepped out much earlier in terms of just, just shining, just shining out there. I started off interestingly, I’m in business and worked in business for 30 plus years, but I actually started out doing chemistry.

And being a science person. So I worked in the lab, a a chemical lab worked in manufacturing in terms of product development, et cetera, from a chemical and technical standpoint. And I found out through that, that my real connection was working with people. I needed to understand that’s how I got into my community.

Yeah. So I think earlier on, I may have, even though I enjoyed my chemistry days, I did. Well, I just said, Oh, what if I had started out earlier, [00:19:00] just understanding and. Working around people versus test tubes and microscopes and all of that.

I

L. Scott Ferguson: love it.

Angeline Gillings: Yeah, I, I, I don’t really have any regret because it actually helped me in my later professional life because I ended up blending the two, but I think because of my passion around just helping people and people, yeah.

Yeah. I mean, I’ve done

L. Scott Ferguson: more. Hindsight’s 20 20. I mean, we, we could look back and go, I would have did this, this, and this, , but I, when I first coach people, I put them in their car. If I, if I’m blessed to coach them in person, I put them in their car and I sit in the passenger seat and they’re there.

And, , I say, , the rearview mirror, it’s small for a reason. That’s where your past is. It’s a great place to learn from, and it’s a great place to visit for great memories. But we don’t live there. But like, , we have this huge windshield in front of us. It’s scary. It’s where we’re going.

And ever since 2011, they make these things called [00:20:00] GPSs. That’s what I am as the coach. That’s how I remind them. I’m like, I’m not going to do the work. I don’t even know where you want to go. We got to figure out where you want to go and we’re going to navigate that way there. So sitting in their car, I’m able to really, really kind of get that metaphor and get it moving forward and just start asking the question.

So Angelina, how do you want your dash remembered? That little line in between your incarnation date and your expiration date, your life date and your death date. Hopefully it’s way down the line, but how does Angelina want her dash remembered?

Angeline Gillings: That’s easy. Upliftment. I want persons to look back and think that, , every interaction, every interaction that I had with Angeline was uplifting.

In, in some cases, I remember a team member telling me one day that, I, I had called them in a room to reprimand them and they, they didn’t realize it was a reprimand until they went home.

L. Scott Ferguson: That is a skill. [00:21:00] Right?

Angeline Gillings: Yeah. They went home and they thought, I said, what, just the way that I, I dealt with it.

And yeah, there are times when I, when I get really firm, but at the end of the day, they’re yeah. It’s, it’s about upliftment. It’s about making you better. Yeah, no question.

L. Scott Ferguson: First of all, I love that you, you reprimanded in private because a lot of people will reprimand people in front of you. I mean, my mentor always said, praise people in public reprimand in private.

So I’m glad that you did that. And you did it in such a way that they thought, Oh, they, they were actually leveled up when they left there. Wait a minute. There’s a teachable moment in what Angeline just gave me. So for being a person like that. I love that. So Angeline, what do you think people misunderstand the most about you?

Angeline Gillings: Oh, Again, yeah, that I’m not firm,

L. Scott Ferguson: but you can be like, I know some Jamaican men and women. They’re really laid back, but I’ll tell you,

Angeline Gillings: I know. [00:22:00] Yeah. I’m serious. I’m, I’m, I’m, I’m one of those persons. I’m very committed. Whatever I say I’m going to do, I’m very committed to that. And I’m very serious about getting it done.

Me doing it on my, if it’s something for me or if it’s my team we need to get it done. If we are committed to doing something, we need to give it our best shot and excellence. And so I am very firm. I’m very, very firm on on just the integrity of what we have committed to do. My word is my bond.

My team and I, I represent my team. If we say we’re going to give it our best, we’re going to give it our best. So my smile sometimes fools, , there’s this iron lady behind that smile. Oh, I

L. Scott Ferguson: know. Yeah. I can definitely see that. And I love that you, you hold yourself to the same accountability that you hold others.

, with that, and that’s, that’s a, that’s, I know coaches, unfortunately, that don’t, , they, they, they just don’t, and I don’t have [00:23:00] any right to say anything to them, but it’s, I see it, and it hurts me, , that they’re not holding themselves to the same level of accountability. So, what is Angeline’s?

Definition of a life well lived.

Angeline Gillings: Of a life well lived? Yes, ma’am. Oh, yeah. A life well lived is It starts with my family. That , that I continue to to nurture them. They’re adult children. Yes. One married, one with her partner. Hopefully soon to get married. Okay. That I nurtured them well and I continue to nurture them and I don’t care how old they are and how old and frail I get.

I’m still going to be the mother. They’re your babies, man. They’re your baby.

L. Scott Ferguson: They’re your babies. Yeah, exactly. , when you have the babies, you have to say, I mean, my mom unfortunately passed in 2019, but she would introduce me up until I was almost 50 years old as her [00:24:00] baby boy. , so I love that and I love it.

It’s

Angeline Gillings: my, it’s my family and, and just persons in business, my integrity, very important. The fact that I supported through thick and thin and whatever way my church family, I, I just love, I just, my different groups of family. I just want to continue to nurture those relationships and connections. I

L. Scott Ferguson: love that you don’t pigeonhole either.

Meaning like, , you have your faith, , you have your friends, you have your family, but there’s a nurture that umbrellas the whole thing. And I just love that. Thank you for doing that. .

Time to shine today. Podcast varsity squad. We are back at Angeline. I know that because we live so close, we’re going to meet up one day. Hopefully it’s with Berta or something like that. Discuss some of these questions, , at length, but today you have five seconds to answer them and they can all be answered that way.

I promise you. Okay. So you’re ready to level up?

Angeline Gillings: [00:25:00] Ah, let’s hear it. Let’s do it. Let’s hear it.

L. Scott Ferguson: Angeline, what is the best leveling up advice you’ve ever received?

Angeline Gillings: To, to being is more important than doing.

Oh,

L. Scott Ferguson: I love it. Love it. Share one of your personal habits that contributes to your success.

Angeline Gillings: My commitment and excellence.

L. Scott Ferguson: Love it. Love it. So other than your website or of course my website, but what other website that you might go to, to help really kind of educate and level up your life?

Angeline Gillings: John Maxwell. I, so I give it, I’m certified John Maxwell. So that’s, he goes to my church. So I love it. Wow. Yes. Nice.

L. Scott Ferguson: So if you see me walking down the street and you’re like, man, Fergie looks like he’s in his doldrums.

He looks like he’s down a little bit. Other than the good book, the Bible, what book might you hand me to help me level up my mind?

Angeline Gillings: I would say The One Philosophy. The One it’s written by [00:26:00] Nancy Matthews. And it, it actually speaks about being the one. I love it. So you are the one and I can make you the one.

It’s not just what’s in it for me. Great read.

L. Scott Ferguson: Great read. So your most commonly used emoji when you text?

Angeline Gillings: The laughing one, especially with the leaning face.

L. Scott Ferguson: Do you have any nicknames growing up?

Angeline Gillings: Yeah, Ann.

L. Scott Ferguson: Ann, okay. All right, and do you have any hidden talents or superpowers that you have that nobody really knows about until now?

Angeline Gillings: No, no, no hidden talents. No problem.

L. Scott Ferguson: Chess checkers or monopoly?

Angeline Gillings: Monopoly.

L. Scott Ferguson: Gotcha. Headline for your life?

Angeline Gillings: She made me feel special and uplifted. I

L. Scott Ferguson: love it. Do you have any superstitions at all? [00:27:00]

Angeline Gillings: No. No. Gotcha.

L. Scott Ferguson: Go to ice cream flavor?

Angeline Gillings: Oh dulce de leche.

L. Scott Ferguson: So there’s a sandwich called the AMPG. Build that sandwich for me. What’s on the sandwich?

Angeline Gillings: It’s gonna be jerk chicken.

L. Scott Ferguson: Oh, there we go.

Yeah,

Angeline Gillings: it’s gonna be some jerk chicken with some what we call pear in Jamaica, but it’s avocado.

It’s gonna have onions and lettuce and tomato, but yes, jerk chicken for sure. I love it. I love it. What kind of bread?

Okay. It’s, it’s going to be wheat bread.

L. Scott Ferguson: Gotcha. Love it. Is there any favorite charity and organization you like to give your time or money to?

Angeline Gillings: I focus on charities through my church.

So different opportunities are there, soup kitchen, et cetera. Yeah.

L. Scott Ferguson: I love it. The last question you [00:28:00] can elaborate on this one, but what’s the best decade of music, 60s, 70s, 80s, or 90s.

Angeline Gillings: Oh, easy seventies,

L. Scott Ferguson: seventies. Awesome. Who do you like to listen to in the seventies?

Angeline Gillings: Manhattan. Oh, really?

L. Scott Ferguson: Love it. My mom would love you.

That’s awesome. Well,

Angeline Gillings: and, and from the Jamaica perspective, Bob Marley, but of course, come on, come

L. Scott Ferguson: on. Of course. I have Marley. I have Marley. I’m probably once a week. , it just helps me chill, relax in this stuff. So how can we find you, my friend?

Angeline Gillings: All right. So LinkedIn is a good way. Just type in my name.

It’s there. You see my name. Just that’s easy. And also on my website, AMPGbusiness. com. I love it. It’s a great website as well. And that she also has a giveaway of unleash the power forward thinking leadership on there. She is, I believe they’re also going to offer a kind of a free hour of power. For somebody, if they were maybe stuck on something that you might help them get through, tell us a [00:29:00] little bit about that.

Yes, I’d, I’d like to offer a one hour complimentary session where we talk through your challenges and, and let’s see how we can find a way, even that one hour to give at least one tip, at least one tip. And this is not about, , selling you to, of course, I’d like to work with you if, if, if it’s absolutely, we want you to work with, we’re going to find at least one tip in that one.

Oh,

yes.

L. Scott Ferguson: Love it. I love it. And also I know that squad, listen, I’m close here. Like she’s going to be offering lunch and learns here moving forward in the future. So she promised us, let me know when she does have them and when she’s putting them together. So watch your emails. For any lunch and learn that might be kind of coming out and Angeline, could you do me one last favor, one last solid and leave us with one last knowledge nugget that we can take with us, internalize and take action

Angeline Gillings: on.

All right. So we started speaking about, , AMPG [00:30:00] and my name. So I, I’m known as the business archangel, your business archangel, and it’s my wings of passion and empathy to support you. In your professional and the personal upliftment, and I can do that in just understanding your needs is I want to help you to solve your needs.

L. Scott Ferguson: I love it. And then Angeline will help you become the most. Human reach your ultimate human potential and after this I know that I feel better as well And she reminded us, , she had 30 plus years in corporate and after that whole pandemic thing She really really really stretched her comfort zone.

She got away from the comfort. She got away from the stability She got away from that Pretty much guaranteed paycheck, but she also knew deep down that she needed and wanted to help people so she really paused and reflected and found a way to how to really support people and that is Such a baller thing to [00:31:00] do if you really think about it squad.

I mean she could be collecting a paycheck even now If she wanted to write doing that, but she knew she had a higher quality, that arch angle and arch angle that really started to come out to really wants to help you. And she realized that she knows a way to be successful and she wanted to pay that forward.

So she really launched AMPG coaching, , and to support the people so they can really shine. And I love her acronym of authentic, meaningful, purposeful and growth. That’s just fantastic. And she reminds us that. A true good coach really listens, listens with their neck, really cares. The rapport is crucial.

That’s critical. And finding something with that person that can connect with the prospect does not feel that there’s no selling. Angeline provides a safe space. For them to really dig deep with Angeline to help them grow hand in hand to move forward , she is somebody that is very empathetic Caring and authentic [00:32:00] and it just comes natural to her.

She does these things for the intention not the attention I love that She was willing to step outside of herself and I know that she had questions and I know that she got her asking gear And asked the people To help her get to places. That’s what she wants you to do as well. She gives her best shot in everything that she does in life, but she’s also very firm underneath that beautiful smiley exterior that she has.

And she reminds you that, Hey, have a solid family. Nurture people, whether they’re your kids or your loved ones, no matter how old they get and where you’re at, make sure you have a really, really solid faith foundation. And she is the archangel, ? And she wants you to help you spread your wings too.

And that’s what she does. She loves upper health. She loves upper wealth. She’s absolutely stunning. She’s a beautiful human inside and out. She’s earned a varsity letter here. Time to Shine today. Thank you so much for coming on, Angelina. I absolutely love your gut so much.

Angeline Gillings: Thank you. Thank you so much.

Thanks for having me. This was wonderful. Talk soon. [00:33:00] Yes. Bye.

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