281-Level UP Your Health and Mindset with Moxibustion Acupuncture – TTST Interview with Oran Kivity

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Oran is a British acupuncturist, author, trainer and coach. In practice since 1987, he specialized in pain-free Japanese acupuncture, developing his own rhythmic moxibustion method, which he teaches worldwide. Based in Taiwan, he delights in coaching fellow practitioners, therapists and professionals to find their path, using tiny habits to make big changes.

Acupuncture doesn’t cure, it triggers the body to cure itself

– Oran Kivity 

Knowledge Nuggets and Take-Aways

1. Stay fully engaged with your passion. When you hit a ‘wall’ ask for help

2. Laughter, movement and community are crucial to a life well lived

3. Start your day with a moment of silence to get Leveled UP!

4. Oran will be remembered as a vessel of change for the better in people’s lives. Kind and loving

5. Acupuncture can help you alter your mood, which can help with depression and other ‘illnesses’ 

6. If a day goes by that you do not learn something is a bad day

Level Up! 

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Speech Transcript (very little editing so not exact)

Time to shine today podcast varsity squad. This is Scott Ferguson. And I’m super super was looking forward to this interview with my good friend Oren QVT, a maxi bustin acupuncture specialist. And I was kind of like, acupuncture is a fufu thing. And this was back in the day when I would just deal with my pain, and whatnot. And luckily, a trusted adviser, friend mentor of mine said, Just give it a try. And it actually helped a ton with my plantar fasciitis and got me back to healthy. And I’m blessed to have crossed paths with Oren because he really breaks down how acupuncture works, and in lack of a better term, dumbed it down for someone like me to understand. So it’s just a super, super fun conversation. Oren is I believe he’s built from the stoics. He’s very quiet. Yet when he talks everything, people just zoom in and listen. So I can’t wait to bring you this episode with my really good friend, Oren kBT. Let’s level up. Time to shine in a podcast versus Scott Ferguson. Unfortunately, I’ve had to reschedule a couple times with my good friend here, Warren Beatty, and I just feel bad about doing it. So thank you for to him for carving the time to come on. And it’s super early in the morning where a good friend Oren is he’s in Taiwan. And it’s just fun, fun to bring people in from all over the world to really level up you guys out there listening that we’re also grateful for and we’re gonna get into, you know, acupuncture, which is something that I full heartedly believe in, it’s helped me with my healing my blood flow. It just everything in Oregon has been in the practice since 1987. He specializes in free pain, free Japanese acupuncture, developing his own rhythmic moxibustion method, which he teaches worldwide. He’s based in Taiwan, like we said, he delights in coaching fellow practitioners, therapists and professionals to find their path using tiny habits to make big changes. So what I love about earnings, he’s so passionate about it, that you know, he’s that he’s a great teacher. And that’s something that all of us love to hear. And he’s a fun teacher. And Oren, thank you so much for coming on. Please introduce yourself the time to shine today. Podcast varsity squad. But first, what’s your favorite color? And why?

Green? Green? Okay, green. Yeah, because it’s the color of the grass between my toes when I exercise in the morning. Yeah, yes, yeah,

it is it the grass green there and Taiwan kind of where you’re at.

It’s green. But um, I live by I live in a town, a Harvard town and by a river and dry apart. Literally, I’ve walked 30 meters out of the door and I’m by the river. And there’s loads of people doing Tai Chi and Chi Gong and exercise, like, everywhere along the riverbank in the mornings. So the grass gets worn down in different patches. And the patches under the trees get worn down. But yeah, it’s green.

Awesome. So. So you said he Qigong and Tai Chi also both practice that as well.

I do. I do Qigong. Qigong is just basically a kind of, you’re regulating your chi in a different way. It just runs cultivating chi. I love it. So I do exercise so

much power in that. And thank you again for coming on. And let’s get to the roots of Yeah. Or and, you know, like, where did you Where did you kind of like you’re from Great Britain is what I’m yeah, here. And then how did you get started and then kind of level up to the point where acupuncture was your, your passion into teaching?

Ah, well, acupuncture rescued me. I think I was. I studied French at university, but I was a university dropout. I was part of party animal. I was playing in bands. Run. I wasn’t, I wasn’t very good after real. Yeah. So I was a musician for a while, but a woman moved. I was in a shared house and a woman who moved into the house, bless her Roshi in Golding, and she was studying acupuncture. And you know, said, What are you doing? And she said, I study acupuncture, and this little light went off in my head. So I could do that because I’d heard about acupuncture. That was in 1983. And she one day she just bundled me into account. So come to the college, I want you to visit it, stop talking about it, and I was there and I got, I liked the college. So I started in 1984. And it changed my life. Because when you’re, I mean a lot of people go into therapy because they they want to, they want to help people, but at the same time, they want to help themselves. And they’ve got broken things that they need to fix. So I fixed a lot of broken bits, and I came to terms with the bits I can’t fix. So it changed my life. It was fantastic.

What was the greatest benefit that you found? Personally? Not what you teach, but personally for Oran, with acupuncture?

You mean when I received acupuncture? Yep. Ah, it’s, it’s mood altering. So, you know, you can walk into an acupuncturist feeling one way, you can walk out feeling another like 30 minutes later. And that’s why that’s why it’s used for drug addiction so much, because, you know, people who take drugs, for example, they, you know, they feel bad, so they take ice or Coke or whatever it is, they take. Sure. And then it’s mood altering, so they feel better, right? So if you can give them a therapy, that that changes their mood, which is a positive therapy, something like acupuncture, then they’ve got a substitute. So I mean, yeah, so for me, it was mood altering, I was depressed, you know, when I first started acupuncture, and it really helped me to come to terms and pull myself together. It was great for me. Yeah,

I love that and love it. So, when with the the style that you teach with a moxibustion, how is that any different than maybe traditional acupuncture? Or is it different at all?

It’s very different. Okay. So, I’ve been developing my own moxibustion style and I think I should explain to you please, listeners and your viewers because I think some people are watching it right and some people are listening to absolutely sure. Yeah. What is moxibustion? moxibustion is basically you get a herb and you burn it and your skin that’s done that’s done in all kinds of ways. So sometimes, the most common way used in China is they put it into like a cigar form. Or they wave this cigar over the skin and it’s like a radiant heat. In Japan, in particular, they like to shape these little cones like pyramids and put them on the skin and light them like a birthday candle and it burns down and before it gets too hot, you remove it. And that’s called direct moxibustion. And I’ve invented this invented I’ve developed a kind of therapy, which uses a piece of bamboo and a piece of bamboo about what is one for those your viewers. Oh, okay. But it’s about the size of my thumb. Sure. Wow, it is. Yeah. And it’s just a short tube of bamboo and you stuffed it full of the herb and you like one end, okay. It becomes like a pressing rolling tool. Okay, it feels incredibly comfortable. So it’s great for relaxing tight muscles. It’s great for anxiety, it just feels really comforting. And you apply it rhythmically rhythmically on the skin. Okay, bamboo, bamboo is essentially it’s a very rhythmic, the tube is written for certain roles, right? You can use it as a roller. Okay, it’s become like a whole body therapy over the last 1215 years. And it’s really an exciting thing for me. I love it. What

herb do you use if you’re if it’s not too much secret sauce to share?

No, not at all. No, it’s, it’s called MK war in English. It sounds like it’s from Harry Potter. And it’s got a Latin name Martin is the vulgaris but it’s basically it’s a roadside herb it grows. It grows all over the place in Asia. Okay, and grows. But yeah, and then you can pick it up and dry it and but I mean, to make really good quality stuff, you need to dry it a long time. Okay. Yeah, it’s Yeah,

I love it. So there is a stigma around, oh, my gosh, how can this work? You know, especially with Americans that have it. So how do you help them understand what I obviously you have your history, your story helped me with your questions, stuff like that. But how do you explain it to somebody that maybe comes in? That’s a little bit skeptical? You know, and maybe you don’t get the level your APA and when maybe when you got started and you started practicing? How did you explain to them the benefits and to get them over that stigma?

I think there are two ways and 111 is you can you can talk people through you can explain what you’re going to do. And so I think explaining helps to some people Sure. But the thing that really helps people is I should explain that in acupuncture. You do a lot of touching particularly in Japanese acupuncture because a lot of acupuncturist in Japan are blind so they pick up a lot of their information from touch patch and a lot. Yeah, so a lot of my teachers are blind in Japan belong to a blind Japanese acupuncture association called Tomaree. So if you’re touching places, particularly on The tummy and it feels uncomfortable. And then you put a needle in and it stops feeling uncomfortable right away. And people go, Oh, something just happened. And that’s an incredible thing to happen right there. And then in the sessions, what was there? Why was it painful? You say, Well, that’s like a dashboard. Your tummy is like a dashboard. And it’s showing me where there are problems in the body. And so when they feel that release, and that’s, that’s really something. Yeah.

It’s like mind blowing how we can because I mean, you’re telling me, like you said, is kind of our second brain. And there’s a lot of things that happen in there that, wow, if you can release it there, then you can relieve anxiety pain out of different things, correct?

Yes. Okay. Yeah. So what what was your experience of acupuncture you said, you

Hi, I’m just I would have injuries that I kind of accumulated in different parts of my body. And I just happen to have in the martial arts world, you know, someone that I was having them and, and I was young at the time I was in my early 20s, I just turned 50, you know, last week, and it was a it was, I went in with that skepticism. But the person that referred me to acupuncture was somebody that I actually trust, and he was 15 years older than me, he was a great teacher, I still call him a mentor, even though he doesn’t allow me to still to this day, you know, he still mentors me. And I went in and immediately relieved my plantar fasciitis it down into my lower ankle area into my calf in my bottom of my foot, right, so and then it just goes to the point where now it’s a it’s a weekly, I don’t want to call it a ritual, but I do go and I live in South Florida, where the world of acupuncture is actually pretty solid, meaning there’s a lot of people that do it, believe in it, and whatnot, and it’s just helped me and I absolutely stand by acupuncture.

So for you the proof was in the pudding. It was like it was Yeah, so it wasn’t anything your acupuncturist said it was actually the fact that you got results.

Yes, sir. I was younger, because I was younger, it made me a believer faster. If I was older now I try things now with more of an open mind and listen to the logic behind it. But back then it was all about results, because I was still competing in sports across the board. And it was like I need it to be at my best. And it just helps me keep, you know, at my best for for, for real. So I absolutely love it. So let me as you say, is there when someone comes into you for acupuncture? Is there any good question that you wish they would ask you, but never do?

Yeah, well, actually, they often asked me a question, which is, they say, is there a point for headache? Or is there a point for back pain? And that’s in a sense, in a sense, it’s a good question. And then right away? It’s a, it’s a great question for me, because it leads me to my favorite answer. And I always tell people, Look, acupuncture doesn’t cure anything. And they go, wah. And I always enjoy that bit where they go, what and I say, instead, what it does, is it triggers the body to cure itself. So that’s the Yeah. So you know, when someone you go around to visit a friend, you ring on the doorbell of the house, and that doorbell sends a signal into the house, it creates movement in the house and a teenager comes bounding out and opens the door and says hi, come on in. So you can’t say the doorbell open the door. But it’s an inflammation into the house. And that’s exactly what we’re doing. We’re working on the outside of the body, and we’re sending triggers into the body. And we’re giving it a message. And then the the body responds, and it responds by treating by curing the pain, or by regulating menstrual cycle or by increasing the blood flow to the brain or whatever the problem is that the person is gone. So Wow. So that’s what we’re doing. We’re, we’re we’re teaching the body to do stuff, we’re triggering stuff, we’re not hearing anything.

I love that analogy that it doesn’t cure. It triggers the body to cure itself in our body is so just dynamic. You know, I’m I’m very I’ve moved more into like I’m chasing energy if you will, I always say that the people but I’m moving more into movement is key, like you know, whether it’s yoga or you know, I’m looking at the Atlantic Ocean where I just go and I jump in and I race energy and like I’ve noticed that you know, for 50 years old, I’m doing a lot more than other 50 year olds do. Because of Welcome to

Season Five by the way,

thank you. Thank you so much.

Happy Birthday did

say that. Thank you so much. But I’m finding myself my body healing itself on its own, but even my acupuncturist, which I’m gonna have to tell her that that’s a great way to just explain it. It’s fantastic. ask Nick. Thank you so, so much for explaining that way. So then, let me ask you some orange. Have you seen the movie Back to the Future? A half. Okay, let’s get that DeLorean with Marty McFly. Okay, let’s go back to say the double dish the 22 year old Orange could eat. What kind of knowledge nuggets would you drop on the younger Orrin to maybe help them last through level up? Or maybe just shorten the learning curve just a little bit?

I thought about that. I don’t think I would. Okay. I think I tell him anything. Well, maybe I say Buy Bitcoin. Love it. I love it. Yeah, but no, I don’t think I tell him anything. I’d maybe just say just go through it. You’ll be okay.

I love it. I love it. You know? And, yeah, there’s just so many people I see, you know, they’ll have a foot in the future foot in the past and they pee on the president. You know, they, they just they don’t enjoy the life in it. But it seems like what you did, you’re kind of a rocker and, you know, bad guy. You’ve kind of lived that life. I don’t think I would change anything with your life either. And that’s, that’s fantastic. So or how do you want your dash? Remember that little line in between your incarnation date, your expiration date? Okay, your life date your death date? How do you want orange dash?

I think I would love to be remembered as someone who changed people’s lives. And I think that I’ve achieved that to some degree. Yes. I think I’d like to be remembered as someone who who contributed to the profession and I think I’ve done that to some degree, but I want to do it more. Yeah. And I want to be remembered as a kind and loving friend. That’s yeah,

I’m just feeling at ease talking to you, brother. It’s like I could have Yeah, you know, Cabo I love cop. I don’t know if you ever had cop. Okay. Yeah, I enjoy kava three times a week. They’re in South Florida there’s kava bars. So you know your your boo loss. I slip it just because sometimes my mommy doesn’t want to take it in with the the ceremonial slam if you will. But yeah, just I could just sit and chill with you.

We could do that. That sounds great. I’ve never I’ve never been to Florida. No, no, I have been to the US but I haven’t got as far as far okay.

Yeah, I’m about 60 miles north of Miami. Palm Beach, Florida. Yes. Right where I’m at and, and I moved down here from Detroit, Michigan. So the weather is fantastic. And I’m glad I made that move. So what do you think people misunderstand the most about Warren?

Yeah, um you know, I’m, I’ll give away my secret that I’m the Cancerian. So can Syrians. I don’t believe in astrology but I think it’s a nice analogy. Yeah, we have you know, a crab. A crab is supposed to have a shell like a hard outer shell and be very soft on the inside. Right. I think I’ve got a very soft outer shell. Okay, so I look, I look very gentle and soft. But I can also make tough decisions when it’s necessary. Yeah, I can. I can speak my mind. So

you seem like the closest that I’ve had actually had on the show of almost stoicism. You seem very stoic. Like you’re very deep in thought. You continually educate yourself. Am I right in saying that? Yeah, right. Yeah. Okay, good. Good. I glad my observant light is shining.

I don’t know how you got that. But yeah, you’re right. Yeah, I think I had a mentor. I met him when I was 21. And he was 3435 1970s. And we’re still very close. We talk. We talk once a week, twice a week, text all the time. Sure. And one of the wisest people I’ve ever met. And he was a teacher, a high school teacher. And he said, If a day goes by where I haven’t learned something, it’s a bad day. And I think it’s just such a great or that’s a level up statement. But I have to learn stuff. Sure. That’s, that’s my dry eye. I love putting new ideas into practice and kind of absorbing stuff. Immerse me

in you have to keep such an open mind in this closed minded society that we have now to do that. And it seems like we’re being forced into boxes. That’s one thing I don’t allow myself I don’t I’m not political. You know, I just kind of just have my views and I have you know, I make two new year’s resolutions every year or okay. One is to make someone smile every day. That’s That’s why and to unless I’ve disrespected you or hurt you in any way I give zero you know what’s what you think Think about it. Okay, that’s just how I am. I won’t go out of my way to disrespect people. I’m not saying I’ve not had road rage and not to the point where it’s confrontational, but I have those thoughts. But I’ve just really through balancing meditation, yoga, Ashtanga Yoga in my kava are really scattered, relaxed feel. Now, a few things I see that not much can really ruffle you, I would think. But when you get ruffled, you can really stand up to yourself, Am I observing that crack?

And I can I can stand up for myself.

Yeah, I can see that I can see that. I can see that everything. It’s

interesting what you said about road rage, because there’s something about being in a tin can on your own roadway. You just kind of like this other part of you comes out and they’re like, yeah, so yeah, I think that’s probably my worst side is when I’m driving. But fortunately, in this country, I don’t drive I cycle everywhere. It’s just such it. Well, it’s just so easy. You don’t need a car. And this time,

right? You know, it’s funny, like I actually have a sticker that I printed out that sits on my mind are called Email apnea, where breathing when you’re working, you’re not breathing. And like, the thing with yoga that’s really brought it to me to be a little bit more tranquil. It and acupuncture as well is that, like when something happens, I actually breathe through it now. So that adrenaline is not allowed to like flow through my body and go, that’s why I love about the, I call them the arts, you know, whether it’s whether it’s acupuncture, whether it’s yoga, whether it’s feng shui in my place, you know, it’s like, I like to keep order, you know, and it’s something I never had when I was younger. So I’m continually like you continuing like you to level up every day and try to learn something new every day. And from somebody and it’s funny, because at these kava bars, or there’s a lot of younger kids, because it does give you that relaxation feeling. So instead of going to the bar to get, you know, tuned up on alcohol, they come to kava, and like I actually listen. And I’ve made friendships with these kids that are 2122 I actually am learning so much, you know, just from that generation as well, because a lot of people will tune that out. Because, you know, I’m 50 and it’s like, so it was like seeing in that herd do as I say not as I do, and it’s just like now, things have just changed so much. And like you said, you have got to continue to level up and learn. And thank you for saying that man. So let me ask you something that take out anything electronical out of this question like your phone, iPad, whatever. And take out any family. Friends in like the natural gravity, air water. What are three things that Warren can’t live without? Laughter Thank you. Yes. Okay.

Movement.

You and I are like, brothers from another mother. Oh, you’re right. No. Yeah, man.

I’m sorry. I can’t take out family and friends. Okay, good.

community. It’s just kind of like, yeah, absolutely. Yeah, we’re,

like, I cannot live without them. So you know, that’s it. So yeah, but laughter and movement. Love that. I think there’s two things that are really important to me. Maybe if you don’t allow me to, say family and friends, then I’ll say books,

books, okay. Continue. Like I That’s the guy. You know, we say, you know, all, not all readers are leaders, but all Leaders are readers. And whether you’re a leader, it feels nice, right? or whatnot, it’s like you’ve got to continuously your your mind is it will turn to mush. It’s weird, even physiologically, if you’re not, it’ll atrophy. And that’s where I’d like to stay sharp and almost take it to overload because now I can meditate. I’ve learned that I’ve been taught by, you know, some very great, great people here in South Florida how to really just center and in so I can take it to that limit. But then I can also decompress, you know, because a lot of people will get information overload, they try to go to sleep and they’re just like, they don’t get the right RAM or the deep sleep and stuff like that where I’ve not mastered it by any means, but it really does help. Well using the arts. I love that. So what would aurons definition of a life well lived be?

That’s a good question. I think fully engaged.

Yeah, I mean, to operate on that full engagement. Yeah.

So to engage with anything that I do. Again, my my, my friend, Sean, my mentor, long, long ago, he said, listen, Oren, even if I was doing toilet cleaning, I would really enjoy it. I love it’s true. It’s like and when we use To we shared a house at the same time, way back then when I was living with regime, the acupuncturist. And when we clean used to clean the house, he said, Come on, let’s make a game out of it. Let’s, let’s have fun. And it was like, yeah, when you’re sweeping the floor, you can really enjoy sweeping the floor. When you’re, you know, when I’m chopping onions, I’m really enjoying chopping onions. Yeah. So I like to be engaged with what I’m doing when I’m playing with a dog or a cat. I’m fully engaged with that. So yeah, it’s just

that is the best advice anybody could ever give on. I’m sorry to cut you off. But it is, I mean, I had a mentor who owned an Italian restaurant in the Detroit area. And, you know, I would, I would be pissed off, to go in have to fold pizza boxes to get ready for delivery. And he just came in, and it’s just like, Listen, man, make this right now, the only thing that really matters to you, and you’re going to start seeing other things in your life change this is after I got the military. And I was just trying to make some side hustle cash flow, I got my real estate business off the ground. And I swear that after that I like I made sure every box was faced the right way. It was easy for the delivery guys to grab them. And it’s just that’s where it started where you were saying to everything that you can, whether you’re stocking supermarket shelves to make sure the labels are out. I mean, that makes all the difference in the world. You don’t know what that does your subconscious mind to start attracting other great things. Right.

Well, I think it’s a keystone habit, you know, when you if you teach a teenager to make the bed and they make the bed really well and they do it and then somehow that sets them up for the day and then they go off and they start arranging their books neatly or something right. And I think it’s I mean, that’s maybe not the best example but I think that you Okay, so once you get focused on keystone habit, this is a lot of what I do in my coaching like you get someone doing one thing well, and then it iterates throughout their life and that’s that’s the that’s the beauty of of habit coaching and like making helping people to do what they want you get them doing one thing really well and then the next thing it can that habit can grow. Yeah, and then it can go sideways, right? Iterate into other habits which also become very useful. Yes.

Yeah, it’s like like we say in your America, that domino effect right. It’s like you started Okay, again, it just keeps going. I love it. I love it. I love time to shine today podcast varsity squad. We’re back with my good friend Oren kvt. And he’s a fantastic acupuncturist with a moxibustion bhajan method and or we have a leveling up lightning round you and I probably will one day over a couple bowls tava. Probably discuss a few of these questions that I have. Okay, but you have five seconds to answer them. Okay, and they can all be answered but no explanations just the answer. Okay. Let’s go. Okay, what is the best leveling up advice? Or it’s ever received?

Learn something every day.

Sake, thank you share one of your personal habits that contributes to your success.

I get up early and I do Chi Gong in the morning while I keep a diary.

And you learn something every day. So so if you were to see me kinda like walking around me like Fergie, he looks like he’s in his adult drums a little bit. What book would you hear me?

Tiny habits. Oh, wow. Beautiful EJ folk.

Yes, absolutely. If you can, don’t lie to me on this one young man. But if you could save one age, physically, physically, for the rest of your life and keep the knowledge you’ve gained and continue to garner knowledge and wisdom. What is physically would you stay for the rest of your life? Ah 50 Okay, very good. Good. Yeah, good. 50 myself.

Yeah. Okay, but I’m not going to explain that. Yeah. Any nicknames shown up? Yes, I’m gonna come out to a million viewers orange McVitie orange there was there’s

you can be wherever you want to hear this. Yeah, this

kind of cookie in the UK is called jaffa cakes and there may be McVities. And so they’re like these orange flavor the sponge on the bottom and a bit of orange jelly and then chocolate on top. They’re really delicious. And I love jaffa cakes. And then people said orange McVities so

I love a lot like chess or checkers.

Checkers. Okay,

me too. favorite charity and our organization we like to give your time or money to

Marx africa.org marks

africa.org Daddy, put that in the show notes. What is that? I’m gonna I’m gonna just detour off of my room. All right, what is

arm? It’s a charity that works with countries where tuberculosis is a big problem, particularly drug resistant TB, or TB and HIV cross infection. And they found out that doing in Japan they used to treat before antibiotics were invented. They used to treat tuberculosis with moxibustion. Okay. So Right. In the early part of the 20th century, before drugs, these drugs were available. CB was cured and treated effectively in Japan with moxibustion. Wow. So MOX Africa said, Well, there’s all these people with drug resistant TB, and all these people with HIV, TB cross infection in Africa, Korea, North Korea, and yeah, all over the globe, actually, why don’t we give them Moxa train them to do monitor on themselves with these Japanese protocols, and then their drugs are going to work again, they won’t be resistant. And that’s exactly what’s been happening. That’s what it did. So, yeah. Oh, so yeah. TB is such a big problem worldwide. I love this charity. Love it. Yeah. So thank you.

That’s awesome. That’s a great charity. We’re gonna put that in the show notes down. Yeah. Okay. Awesome. Okay. And last question. And you can elaborate on this one, as well. But what is the best decade of music? 60s 70s 80s or 90s?

Um, for me, it was the 990s Techno era.

Okay, yeah. Yeah. Music did you play when you were in your band days?

Oh, I played a new H rock. Rack. Yeah. So my favorite band at that time was x Tec, the clash and Sex Pistols. Yeah. And kind of more sophisticated new age music as well. Okay. But, yeah, so that’s the kind of music do

you have seen yourself playing at? CBGBs?

What’s cpgb? Oh, you

don’t know. CBGBs? It’s like, yeah, like, even like a lot of those names that you mentioned, actually played at CBGBs in New York in a borough in New York. Because, okay, I can totally see you. It’s awesome. Yeah. And that’s fantastic.

Yeah, so I love Rob, but I had a pivot to techno music was just Yeah, so I mean, I, yeah. I just like,

Steve Oakenfold. Is his neighbor. Yeah. Ugly or?

Yeah. I mean, the kind of people I like maybe Tim green or Gary Beck. But, yeah, so. And there was a wonderful Detroit DJ, and I forgotten his name now. But he came and played in Malaysia a few times. Oh, really? Yeah. Done. I forgot his name. He was great. Yeah,

yeah. I mean, the Detroit techno show is out of this world, dude. It is. Yeah. Cool. I, it’s not my jam, if you will. But it was a lot of fun to go and attack. And in the people there were just so cool and relaxed. I mean, some of them were on some stuff. But what types or do you go to or venues that are so boring? How can we find you?

Well, you can go to my website, but orange DVDs, kind of hard to spell on the radio on a webcast, so just type type in Japanese acupuncture.com. Okay. And then that will that will pivot to my author site.

I love it. I love it. And then I’ll be in the show notes as well. So yeah, tell me a little bit about this coaching program that you have gone on.

Um, it was, I’ve always been mentoring. I mean, since since my early career in London, I’ve had Junior practitioners underneath and I’ve been mentoring and coaching. But of course, with a pandemic that I pivoted to online coaching. And the beautiful thing about it, I mean, I, I coach, a lot of practitioners and some, some of my patients as well have kind of heard from Malaysia when I moved to Taiwan, they’ve kept on with me through zoom. Right? And so I do more more like coaching rather than acupuncture. But the wonderful thing for me is like working with practitioners, because I can go into clinic with them, now that we have zoom in the way that we do. And they set they set up cameras here and cameras there and work with their patients and really give them like follow up follow them with their patients as well. Wow. But for me is like, yeah, habit. Coaching is such a powerful way to work with people like what we talked about earlier, because you’re really helping people do what they really want to do. It’s not like you’re uncovering all these traumas and helping them you know, cure traumas. You’re just what is it you want to do? Are we gonna get there and how you can do it? Yeah, and I love that. Right? Because it’s, yeah, you’re just going with the flow with people.

Gotcha. Okay, so I I love that what you’re doing. So is that available to the public? Or is it just Yeah, okay.

Got ya. So no, I work with a lot of practitioners. Okay? That because that’s my experience, but I of course I work with the public as well. So okay, coaching.

Absolutely. I love it. I look okay, thank you for sharing that. So if you do as our parting as part here, can you leave the squad with one last Knowledge Nugget they can take with them internalize and take action on please.

Yeah, I think that when you’re planning your day, you need a moment of silence. And a lot of people start their day with radio, TV, with sounds with movement with interactions. But for me, I think starting the day with silence is is the best way while but finding some finding some way to be with yourself and engage with yourself before you do the radio before you do the surefeed Before you do just silence silence so. So yeah, that would be my advice. For me. No, no, it’s for me.

100% I have 90 minutes every day every morning to Scott. And it starts with intense breathing, but then it moves into sitting still. And you know, with intense breathing, I kind of use a Wim Hof Method where I really actually and then I sit in the still and just let my day come to me. And then I get into my reading and I have a pitbull, he loves to walk and then I get on the water and then around that 90 minute mark have the shower and I’m about serving others. So I love love, love love that you say to start your day in it with a moment of silence and squad we just had a fantastic interview and kind of a masterclass free one with my good friend Oren. You know, he said the acupuncture, you know, rescued him, and he will remind you that it’s kind of a it’s a mood altering process, you know, it helped him with his depression but it can help you through like myself through a lot of different falls that I’ve had in life and I’m not saying physical but even mental emotional, it’s helped me out really level up, you know, in the the maxi Bostjan with the explain what you can go to his website and learn a heck of a lot more. But you know, he kind of warms up the skin with an herb and he uses the bamboo and it really starts the process out. And I don’t want to try to educate on that just go to his site, please. And just remember the acupuncture doesn’t cure, it triggers the body to cure itself. It’s kind of like if someone rings the doorbell according that orients analogy, it’s like you hit the doorbell. It just doesn’t open. Somebody that body is gonna come and you know, that teenager, like he said, comes and opens that door. It’s like, it opens up to the healing. He’s gonna be remembered as somebody that positively changed people’s lives. Right now Oren is planting trees, these never going to sit in the shade off. And that’s what I love about bringing orange these kinds of loving Do you know he wants you to learn something new every day, keep that mind focus in level and open and then level up and he wants you to stay fully engaged with your passion. Remember those Keystone Habits that you integrate into your life and it will start integrating a different part like a spiderweb throughout all the positive passion in your life. And he ended with, you know, start your day with a moment of silence. Don’t hop on the radio, don’t grab your cell phone start that day and really, really focus just like I have, you know, my the podcast that actually has the most listens and views is about how I started my day. And that’s just fantastic. Oren does that as well. And Oren levels up as healthy levels up as well. He’s humble yet hungry. We’re blessed to have half a minute you’ve earned your varsity squad letter here at time to shine today. Thank you so much, brother for coming on. I love your thoughts.

Yeah, it’s been a real pleasure just hanging out with you and chatting with you. And I hope to see you in Florida with a classic Carver.

Yes, we will, brother. I’ll talk to you soon. Bye now. Thank

you so much. Thank you.

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