But you know, I was thinking about this the other day, how every. Whether we realize it or not, we’re hanging something new on the wall of our life’s gallery. Every action, every [00:01:00] word, every choice. It’s a brush stroke. Some are bold and confident. Others may be a little messier, unfinished, but it’s all part of the piece we’re creating.

Most people spend their lives walking through someone else’s gallery, admiring what others have built, comparing, criticizing, scrolling through their highlight reels, but champions, the people who level up. They’re too busy creating their own. Here’s the thing, you can’t hang excuses and expect applause.

You can’t paint halfhearted effort and expect masterpiece results. The world doesn’t celebrate. Almost finished. It celebrates those who show up with discipline, presence, and purpose every single day and keep adding to the canvas even when no one’s watching. Your life is the gallery. The question is, when people walk through it, what do they feel?

Do they see courage, consistency, and growth, or chaos and convenience? Every sunrise is a blank wall. You hang there today, that’s your legacy. So stop standing in the museum of your past. Pick up the brush, get intentional, and start painting something worth remembering and talk about painting something that can worth remembering Our guest here, I wanna welcome, [00:02:00] you know, we’re bringing you a conversational next level visionary who’s roots run deep in the world of performance, culture, and creative evolution.

I’m gonna introduce you here to miss Cassandra Voss. Four Steering two of America’s most ambitious contemporary art platforms, the LA Art Show, and also locally here, the Art Palm Beach. After 16 years of anchoring Ellie’s Art World, she stepped into the producer director role in 2021, has since pushed the fair into new territory.

By 2022, she broadened the scope, acquiring and reinventing art Palm Beach into a bold, bi-coastal undertaking that unites artists, collectors, and galleries. From around the globe, she’s all about immersive, curatorial narratives, bold experiences, and open dialogue and art. But artistry isn’t just in her role, it’s in her blood.

Her father is the celebrated Greek actor, Yorgos fame for her roles in Jesus of Nazareth, frantic, swept Away, and little drummer Girl with the lake. Great. Diane Keaton. Growing up with a legacy of storytelling, drama, and emotional connection, Cassandra brings that same intensity to the visual realm.

Building art spaces that [00:03:00] don’t just display works, but tell stories, spark reactions, and reshape future. So get ready and I’m gonna bring on my new good friend here and thank you Miss Kirsten Miller for introducing us. But thank you so much for coming on Miss Cassandra. 

Kassandra Voyagis: Well, thank you for having me. Yes.

What of an impressive introduction. Yeah. I did 

Coach Fergie: a little vetting out on you. Just wanted to make sure we’re good to go. And we impress you from the jump, right? 

Kassandra Voyagis: Yes, totally. Totally. And I actually really liked what you said about. Don’t stand still. 

Coach Fergie: Right. You 

Kassandra Voyagis: know, keep creating. Yes. Finish what you start.

It’s so important. 

Coach Fergie: Absolutely. 

Kassandra Voyagis: And that’s what art is. 

Coach Fergie: Yeah. Everybody, a lot of people do that unfortunately, like clients that they won’t take action. They’ll think analysis paralysis, and they don’t take action. Right. So I see that a lot. 

Kassandra Voyagis: Yeah. You have to take action and actually it’s okay if you screw up along the way.

Coach Fergie: Right. 

Kassandra Voyagis: It’s not a big deal. 

Coach Fergie: I love that. 

Kassandra Voyagis: And just do it. 

Coach Fergie: Yes. Fail forward. Just do it. What I like to say. Right. So, so, you know, as. Is there kind of any creative habit you have like kind of every morning that helps you get into that [00:04:00] curator mode, that kind of artsy mode? ’cause again, I was joking off Mike, that I can’t draw a stick finger, but I will love artwork.

Like I will go through and I will be there all day. You immersed in it, which I know you do immersive experiences, so like is there any kind of habit that you do? 

Kassandra Voyagis: Not really. Not really, no. I am the one of those people, like you said that I’ll get up and I’ll be right on it. Like, I’ll be thinking, what do I wanna do?

Where do I wanna go? I do love to travel. And, and, and that inspires me, right? I travel all the time, all over. And when I go to these places, I’m like, my eyes pop up and I’m like, woo, this would be amazing, right? How can we bring this, how can we show this? Uh, what could we create? Right? What kind of experience?

Even somebody, like you said, like yourself, you don’t, you know, you’re not a, you don’t know how to draw a stick figure, right? Stick. Yeah. But that’s not the point. The point is like. What can I bring that you’re gonna walk through and be like, Ooh, 

Coach Fergie: right. 

Kassandra Voyagis: This is kind of cool. And this puts me in a different place, even for that split moment.

Coach Fergie: That, that, [00:05:00] that second. That’s second. That’s it. And movies do that. Your father and mother did that, which by the way, I need to bring up Miss Nadia Cassini late mother that she lost six months ago. She again, I’m sorry. Beautiful lady. Thank you. Rubbed off on you. 

Kassandra Voyagis: Thank you. Thank you very much. 

Coach Fergie: Speaking of that, growing up.

You know, was there a moment like watching your parents kind of perform, kind of telling stories that made you think, you know, I wanna build art worlds, like kind of, because I know you have some acting credits as well too, and stuff like that. So, but what, was there any of their kind of influence on you?

Kassandra Voyagis: It’s, it’s interesting when both your parents are in that world, 

Coach Fergie: right? 

Kassandra Voyagis: You grew up very differently. 

Coach Fergie: Sure. 

Kassandra Voyagis: So I was always on a set, I was always on a concert floor, sleeping here or there. So. Everybody in our house was a writer, a director, photographer. I was 

Coach Fergie: gonna say, just a flow through of people or 

Kassandra Voyagis: something, you know, something in the entertainment or creative world.

Coach Fergie: Mm-hmm. 

Kassandra Voyagis: So I was just, I mean, I didn’t really search for something different. I was born in it. Right. And that’s where the acting started with my parents. [00:06:00] I mean, I was acting as a kid and it’s really interesting about the art world. It started my position in actually getting so involved. I mean, I loved art because I’m half Greek, half Italian, right?

So I grew up with the classic and all I did was, you know, look at beautiful things in the art world. But I actually was invited to the opening night of the LA art show. Okay. And uh, and that’s how my passion started. I went to the opening night. 

Coach Fergie: What year was this? This was 

Kassandra Voyagis: in like 2004. 

Coach Fergie: Okay, so you know, a bit ago.

Yeah, two years ago. Long time ago. Years ago, yeah. 

Kassandra Voyagis: Yeah. And I walked through the, you know, I did the opening night and then I walked and saw the galleries and saw the art and talked to people and spoke to the director at the time. And I was like, oh my God, this is so interesting. And I think I bring something different to the table because I look at it.

And like, like a movie as well. Mm-hmm. So you get to create, you get to. Bring [00:07:00] something together. Yeah. So the way you would see a movie and you bring the actors and the directors Yeah. And, and you put it all together, and then somebody like yourself sits and, and enjoys it. 

Coach Fergie: Right. 

Kassandra Voyagis: I get to put all that together in the art world.

Coach Fergie: Right. 

Kassandra Voyagis: So I get to bring the galleries, the museums, the immersive experiences, everything that you’re gonna experience as. Attendee at the show. Sure. I get to put together and create, and I absolutely love that, 

Coach Fergie: right? 

Kassandra Voyagis: Like I’ll go in and the convention center will be completely empty and after six months of like thinking and traveling and doing all of what I said.

It all comes to life, 

Coach Fergie: right? 

Kassandra Voyagis: For four or five days and then it all disappears. And then it 

Coach Fergie: goes, yeah. Then 

Kassandra Voyagis: it goes, 

Coach Fergie: so you have like two shows. Two shows that you work in? Mm-hmm. Like do you start with kind of like a whiteboard, kind of like just throwing this, like maybe move a magnet here, you know what I’m saying?

And say this, this immersive experience to move into this and it flows. Is that kind of how you set that up? It flows. 

Kassandra Voyagis: Yeah. So you have like the, like the convention center, it’s this empty space, so usually. In other [00:08:00] situations, like in trade shows or whatever, things are kind of static and they’re always the same.

Coach Fergie: Right? 

Kassandra Voyagis: My idea is like you start from scratch every year, so what else can I bring to the table? 

Coach Fergie: Right. 

Kassandra Voyagis: How can your experience be when you walk in? Like what would you wanna see? What do you wanna see over here? How? How do you feel here? Where do you sit? What gallery’s there? So yeah, so I start blank and I start plopping all the galleries, which I’ve met Sure.

Around the world and what different. Ideas they can bring to the table. And then diverse art, Palm Beach, right? Which is my museum and nonprofit component of the show with my curator will sit down and we’ll say, so you ne you never bring the same museums or the same exhibits, 

Coach Fergie: right? 

Kassandra Voyagis: Again, 

Coach Fergie: right? 

Kassandra Voyagis: So it’s an opportunity to see something you haven’t seen elsewhere 

Coach Fergie: right 

Kassandra Voyagis: before.

So you’re gonna see it for the first time. So that’s the creative process. So what can we bring this coming January to Palm Beach? That you didn’t see last January. Last January, okay. 

Coach Fergie: [00:09:00] That you 

Kassandra Voyagis: didn’t see in Miami. That you didn’t see in New York. You didn’t see in London. You are only gonna see it in Palm Beach.

Right. How cool is that? 

Coach Fergie: And, and the, a lot of it we’ve talked about a little bit off Mike was the diversive or in immersive experience. Exactly. Right. And so is there people that kind of come to you and pitch you on, yes, this is my artwork, and will it fit within your story? Like how does that, like how does that kind of play out?

Kassandra Voyagis: So the galleries obviously apply for the show and they put together their proposal of artists or what they would like to bring. And you know, we have a committee, we look through it, all of that. When it comes to the museums though, and those installations and immersive experiences, those, my curator thinks of a, a subject that is important in that particular time of year.

Coach Fergie: Oh, okay. Like, and 

Kassandra Voyagis: so we’ve done climate change, we’ve done water components, we’ve done. Um, cleaning up cities, you know, whatever is important in that. 

Coach Fergie: So you might add that theme into the 

Kassandra Voyagis: [00:10:00] Correct. 

Coach Fergie: Okay, 

Kassandra Voyagis: so also 

Coach Fergie: geographically as well? Yes. Like something would be different here in Florida than California?

Completely. Okay. 

Kassandra Voyagis: Completely. 

Coach Fergie: Okay. 

Kassandra Voyagis: So those are the components that you integrate that makes them different. 

Coach Fergie: Okay. 

Kassandra Voyagis: So for example, we have a museum, um, it’s a textile museum from Miami that’s gonna come this year. 

Coach Fergie: Okay. 

Kassandra Voyagis: They basically do textiles. They do all kinds of textiles in the museum. How does the curatorial component comes in is, okay, we want something that has to do with climate, with the forest, with something like that.

So the textile museum puts together a proposal, so the textiles are gonna be hanging, they’re gonna represent trees. They’re very detailed, made as trees. 

Coach Fergie: Sure. 

Kassandra Voyagis: You have lighting that goes through the textiles. So when you’re, the immersive component is you’re walking through these textiles that are trees, and then you have projectors.

The walls showing the forest. 

Coach Fergie: Ooh. 

Kassandra Voyagis: So that’s the creating process, right. 

Coach Fergie: Okay. 

Kassandra Voyagis: [00:11:00] It’s not just putting, so 

Coach Fergie: maybe different artists working together to make, make this correct. Well, it’s not just saying, Hey, there’s like a Van Gogh guy, or you know this, like, no. Yeah. Okay. That’s 

Kassandra Voyagis: what the galleries bring. The galleries bring the fine art, the modern art, love it.

The Picasso, the, you know, but the immersive 

Coach Fergie: experiences. The immersive experiences 

Kassandra Voyagis: is where you’re creating a story. 

Coach Fergie: Right. 

Kassandra Voyagis: Another component is you have an artist coming from South America. She’s very known. She does various Biennales. She’s been in the Venice Biennale. Her whole, um, passion is how, you know, to clean up a city to help with the water, to help with, and she creates immersive experiences around that.

So in this case, this artist is gonna come to Palm Beach earlier, gonna find a place, a water element will. Involve the community to take pictures. 

Coach Fergie: Sure. 

Kassandra Voyagis: As the cleanup is happening or whatever they decide to do. There, you take pictures, then those pictures are turned around. They’re created and put in the [00:12:00] show with lighting 

Coach Fergie: to make you immersed and immersed in it.

Immersed 

Kassandra Voyagis: in, and you’re walking through all the pictures, right? So those are the cool things that I really enjoy, and it’s hard to bring to markets that are not so. Big 

Coach Fergie: right 

Kassandra Voyagis: in in the art world. Sure. Like, you know, we know Chicago, Miami, New York, London, Paris. Right. My focus, and this is gonna be our fourth year, is how can we bring the cutting edge or the immersive components, or the museums or the galleries that have never been here.

Sure. To bring that to Palm Beach. Palm Beach, because Palm Beach is beautiful, you actually have the opportunity to have a conversation. The convention center is very nice. It’s not in like in LA, like right downtown, you know, it’s. It’s a, it’s a, it’s a real, it’s accessible. It’s a small 

Coach Fergie: town feel, but with 

Kassandra Voyagis: exactly 

Coach Fergie: a lot of money.

I mean, come on a small beach, right? It’s, it’s, yes, yes. That is a very 

Kassandra Voyagis: important factor. That is true, right? Uh, because you do wanna also sell the art, right? So you [00:13:00] do need some people with a lot of money to come through. But let’s not just do that. Let’s bring in some educational components, like we also have a, um, a nonprofit called Athletes for Life.

Okay. And in LA for several years. Uh, you know, uh, Greg Bell used to be a football player. Yes. Yeah. Um, so Greg came to me and brought this to LA because he wanted to support the Kick kids from Compton. 

Coach Fergie: Okay. 

Kassandra Voyagis: Um, you know, to come enjoy an art show, see something they’ve never seen. Sure. 

Coach Fergie: Get the youth involved.

Kassandra Voyagis: Get the youth involved. He provides them lunch and food. Love that. And I talked to them, so we wanted to bring that here in Palm Beach. And we did that last year. Okay. And he’s coming back again this year. That’s beautiful. With, I think, uh, a couple of schools may be from Miami or around, I’m not sure. Okay.

But yeah, so I always wanna balance, 

Coach Fergie: I love that 

Kassandra Voyagis: art shows can be for profit and galleries and selling, which is important for the galleries. Sure, absolutely. Right? But that, but [00:14:00] as a producer, a director in this world, how can I balance that out when it’s not just profit, but it’s also a give back. 

Coach Fergie: I love that.

And, and squat it, that what I’m not hearing is just balance, but the harmony that she puts together around these shows and when we get back from break. We want to kind of dig into a little bit about Cassandra herself, how she puts this harmonic hustle together, and Steve, go ahead and take it away. 

Steve Austin: Thanks, Scott.

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Coach Fergie: Hey, hey Steve. Thank you so much for the update and I’m blessed that you are my sponsor, my friend. Um, we’re back with my good friend here. Cassandra VOAs. And so you know some galleries and artists that you know, I did do some background checks on you and they told me that you appreciate that you look for underrepresented voices.

So what drives you? This is all kind of falls under that harmonic thing. When you say balance, I think it’s more harmony, to be honest with you. ’cause balance is 10 pounds, 10 pounds at zero. Like this has gotta be harmonic. Right, which goes along with my book that’s coming out. Harmon Cus coming out in February.

Squad out there. But anyways, no, we’ll get back to you. That 

Kassandra Voyagis: was, that was smart. I liked it. 

Coach Fergie: But what drives you to kinda keep pushing for inclusion even when it’s easier to kinda [00:17:00] repeat what’s safe? 

Kassandra Voyagis: Um, I find repeating and being safe is boring. Boring, 

Coach Fergie: I was just gonna say. Yeah, absolutely. I really, I really do.

Kassandra Voyagis: I, that’s, that’s what gets me going. That’s what makes me go for like 12 hours, 15 hours a day. Yeah. It excites me and I always look at it also through my eyes. And because I do travel a lot, like we said, and I do go to many shows and I go to many galleries and when something is repetitive and it’s the same.

You kind of glaze, you’ll like walk in and Oh, you’re excited and then you’re glazed. Then you’re like, okay, I’m doing this. Okay. I’m about, 

Coach Fergie: it’s like seeing the same movie. Yeah, but just a different movie. 

Kassandra Voyagis: Yeah, exactly right. Is the same. 

Coach Fergie: Yeah. 

Kassandra Voyagis: So I’m just so I don’t like that. So it is more work. But you’re allowing for voices that haven’t been heard before, right?

You’re bringing components that you wouldn’t even expect to see. So you, you could be surprised. And that’s the whole thing. I mean, the whole thing is you’re [00:18:00] taking a couple of hours off your day or whatever it is. You’re coming to an art show, you want to click out. You wanna be walking through and be like, Ooh, you know, I haven’t seen this.

Or, what about this? Or, who’s this? Or why they come here, or where they come from. And that’s. Everything. 

Coach Fergie: Do you market it as kind of like an experience like you’ve never seen? Because obviously you’ve gotta be really empathetic. Looking through, like, even my eyes, it’s not artsy, but what I would be turned onto.

Mm-hmm. Going and seeing. Mm-hmm. Do you market it as being really unique? 

Kassandra Voyagis: I try to, I tell people, you know, even if you don’t have like that art world experience, even if you’ve never been to an art show, 

Coach Fergie: right? 

Kassandra Voyagis: Or you think, no, I can’t go and, and I don’t know this stuff, you know, what am I gonna look at?

What am I gonna say? No. Pick up go, even if you don’t know anything about it. 

Coach Fergie: Right. 

Kassandra Voyagis: And just, just go openhearted and experience it. And you might not like something that I might like. 

Coach Fergie: Right? 

Kassandra Voyagis: And that’s the goal. So I think that’s important for me. [00:19:00] And when I put my director cap, 

Coach Fergie: right, 

Kassandra Voyagis: there’s a lot of directors out there in the art world that want to put their stamp.

On what they’re showing. 

Coach Fergie: You almost wanna put the public stamp on it. 

Kassandra Voyagis: I don’t wanna put my stamp, you 

Coach Fergie: know? Right. Yeah. My stamp. 

Kassandra Voyagis: Yes. My stamp is to create something that’s engaging and different and you haven’t seen, and I love that. And the international component, like I really, right. I really want that.

Like inclusion. Inclusion. Yeah. Like this year I have gallery from South Africa. I have a gallery from Poland, from Germany, from Switzer, like all over the place. 

Coach Fergie: Right. 

Kassandra Voyagis: That’s the inclusion and the inclusion of the community and the museums. But when it comes to the art. It’s subjective. It really is like, I might like something, you might not like it.

So if I’m putting my stamp on it, that’s me. That’s boring. Mm-hmm. So that’s the inclusion, right? You bring everybody in and you let people decide what they like 

Coach Fergie: before you go live with a show. You know, like I’ve been, I’ve been blessed to go to some screenings before movies come out. Mm-hmm. And like vote on it and, and stuff like that, right?

Mm-hmm. So [00:20:00] do you have something like that where you kind of bring a, a diverse group of people through the immersion? I would 

Kassandra Voyagis: love to do that. Okay. Unfortunately, though, the production side of things. Okay. And the. The element of putting this together, I just gonna 

Coach Fergie: say it must be, it’s, it’s not like you can show it on screen.

No, no. It’s huge. I gotcha. 

Kassandra Voyagis: Because we do build all the walls and we create everything differently, so it’s not cookie cutter. So you do need to come in and create all that. And usually we’re, we’re running to the last second. 

Coach Fergie: Right. 

Kassandra Voyagis: Um, so I guess opening night and VIP. Is, you know, your first look before the public.

Okay. But I would have loved to have more time to be able to do that and allow for like a, a, a pre pre where people can actually experience and have that conversation. But we are doing that on Sunday though, with that artist, uh, next to the river. 

Coach Fergie: Yeah. 

Kassandra Voyagis: With the cleanup and creating Okay. That com component.

Coach Fergie: Right. 

Kassandra Voyagis: So that’s before the show. So I have 

Coach Fergie: to ask you, LA [00:21:00] and Florida. Way different worlds. Okay. I am sorry. You think that’s way different. Okay. Like, I love there, but I don’t wanna live there, if you know what I mean. Right. So it’s like, I love it, but so how do you kind of see it through two different lenses?

Yes. To make sure that the people that are showing up at this, and I, you know, Brian knows, everyone knows I don’t talk political on here ever. Mm-hmm. You know, just, but left coast, right coast. It goes there. Mm-hmm. But like, how do you like have that vision to make sure, okay, this is like, do you do like a bunch of research for like demographics and what people are looking for in that area and then put it together with your mind, like, you know what I’m saying?

Absolutely. Okay. Like how very different, okay. 

Kassandra Voyagis: So this is our fourth year, right? So the first couple of years I was kind of figuring it out also. 

Coach Fergie: Right. 

Kassandra Voyagis: They’re 

Coach Fergie: different. Right. 

Kassandra Voyagis: And, and no, you can’t bring the same experiences or the same things that you would bring in LA because honestly, you would offend a lot of people in Florida and you would get a lot of vice versa.

You would get a lot of people very, very, very upset. 

Coach Fergie: Right, right. And that’s 

Kassandra Voyagis: not my [00:22:00] goal. 

Coach Fergie: Uhhuh. 

Kassandra Voyagis: And also that’s the idea that every market and every place is different. Different, yeah. And that’s a conversation you also have with the artists, the galleries and everybody. I have galleries. Do both my shows.

Coach Fergie: Sure. 

Kassandra Voyagis: But they will bring very different things to LA that they will bring. Okay. To Palm Beach. I love 

Coach Fergie: that view that you’re having 

Kassandra Voyagis: and that’s okay. So 

Coach Fergie: you’re not, not to offend anybody. No, because some, some people, like you said before, an artist or an ARC director or something, they’re just gonna put their stamp on it.

Oh, no, no, no. You 

Kassandra Voyagis: know what I’m saying? No, that’s silly. 

Coach Fergie: And why am 

Kassandra Voyagis: I coming into your town to offend you? 

Coach Fergie: Right, right. 

Kassandra Voyagis: No, I’m coming into your town to bring something different that you might have not seen. 

Coach Fergie: Bring an experience. Right. An experience and be 

Kassandra Voyagis: completely respectful. 

Coach Fergie: Right. 

Kassandra Voyagis: Of your views, your ideas, your everything.

Coach Fergie: Right. 

Kassandra Voyagis: Just bring an another component that you might not see elsewhere. 

Coach Fergie: You’re so well lived in life. Right? So I have, I, this is a canned question I ask all of my, my guests. Mm-hmm. But I have to know it with you, with your, your upbringing. And, and what you’ve lived, like, how do you want your dash remembered?

That little [00:23:00] line in between your incarnation date and your expiration date, your life date and death date. Ooh, that’s difficult. Like, how do you want your dash remembered because you, you know, your father’s carrying a legacy, your mom carried a legacy. Yeah. You’re building it and, and killing it. But how do you, in the end, ’cause I know you’re a great mother, you know, and whatnot, but like, how do you really want to be like, kind of remembered if someone was to stand up and like remember you 

Kassandra Voyagis: straightforward.

Coach Fergie: I can see that little Greek Italian going up. Yes. 

Kassandra Voyagis: Straightforward, honest, and I, you know, I’m very like friends and family and you know, if you’re, if you’re okay, I’m okay. 

Coach Fergie: I love that. You 

Kassandra Voyagis: know, I, I like that. I don’t like games. 

Coach Fergie: Right. It’s why I, I really don’t, it’s why I love her authenticity, that this is one thing I’m picking up from her right now is that she lives life.

On her terms, but she also wants to serve and, and leave the world a better place. Yep. Maybe bumped and bruised throughout the time. True. But, you know, but like if, if you were to get in that DeLorean with Marty McFly from Back to the Future, right? [00:24:00] Mm-hmm. Like, and you went back to say the double deuce, the 22-year-old Cassandra.

What not to change anything because you’ve lived a pretty awesome life, but what, what kinda stuff you might you do to shorten a learning curve on something like to maybe blast through a little bit quicker? 

Kassandra Voyagis: 22-year-old. Okay. Um, it’s 

Coach Fergie: a crazy age, isn’t it? Yeah, 

Kassandra Voyagis: it is. I was actually in Japan at the time. I think I would probably be a little bit more flexible.

When you’re in your early twenties, you’re very stuck in your ways 

Coach Fergie: Without a doubt. Yes. 

Kassandra Voyagis: Very stuck in your way. Yes. So I think I would’ve been a little bit more flexible and I would’ve been a little bit more open to taking. Criticism ideas and whatever, because that would’ve helped me get where I’m at today, right?

Much quicker. But on the other hand, that difficulty is also what got me here because I was stubborn. And so, you know, I don’t know. Right. That was a tough one. 

Coach Fergie: No, I, I, I get it. I look back that one thing that I would do is like, ’cause I was 22, I was in the military, I did some crazy stuff and, you know, but I thought I knew everything, of course.

And [00:25:00] then if I didn’t know anything, I wouldn’t ask. So I, I always say now, like, the kids that I’m blessed to coach, like, get your asking gear. Ask. There’s people out there that wanna tell you Yeah. Right. And, and, and do that. So. What is kind of like the, if you, if you kind of had the, like this one, you have to answer a little bit quickly for me.

Mm-hmm. Okay. But if you like had unlimited resources for that one moonshot like project Right. That you could put on for the world, right. What might that, it might not commercially be feasible, right? But like what would it be? 

Kassandra Voyagis: It would be those immersive and those. Educational and nonprofit components on steroids, like huge installations like that, you would just go through and live another reality.

Okay. Um, yeah, if I had unlimited sources, I would go crazy. 

Coach Fergie: I could just see like the, I. I’d love to buy the world a Coke kind of thing, opening it, the song from when we were kids and stuff. You remember that? And then just kind of like to immersed the whole world. Yeah. I can see you designing that. That’s, I would 

Kassandra Voyagis: [00:26:00] love that.

Coach Fergie: Yeah. That would be crazy. I love it. So how can we find you? Our Palm beach.com. Okay. Do the dates is January 28th, 2026 through the February 1st? Yeah. February 1st. Mm-hmm. Okay. Mm-hmm. Gotcha. So everything can be bought there, like tickets. Tickets 

Kassandra Voyagis: are already live. They’re out there. Okay. Everything is on there.

The programming, uh, the immersive and the diverse. It’s slowly, slowly being announced as we’re putting it all together. 

Coach Fergie: Okay. Uh, 

Kassandra Voyagis: but everything is on the website. Yeah. 

Coach Fergie: Okay. Again, squat it is art palm beach.com. That’s art palm beach.com. And also you can call ’em at (310) 822-9145. Is there like any room for something that’s kind of coming up in January if anybody wanted to last minute, or are you pretty much set with your whiteboard and kind of getting it ready to push it through 

Kassandra Voyagis: again?

Always room for interesting things. Oh, okay. Always. Okay. I always pivot. You can always pivot. What it would be the best 

Coach Fergie: way. Then quickly on this. Can someone kinda get ahold of like to be [00:27:00] able to get through to you? 

Kassandra Voyagis: So on the contacts page of Art Palm Beach, Uhhuh, there’s my email and they can reach out to me that way.

Love it. 

Coach Fergie: Info at art palm beach show.com. Again, it’s info at art palm beach show.com, you know, so thank you so much for coming on. Thank you. I wish I had an hour with you like this would I love it. We could go on forever and ever and ever. Thank you to my awesome producer. Uh, Brian Mudd to the PR rep, Kirsten Miller, who is filling my calendar this month.

Thank you so much. And to WJNO, everybody get out there. Level up.

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