445-Break the Mold Celebrate the ‘Odd Ducks’: How to Be Unreservedly Bold and Make an Impact** 🌟🛠️ TTST Interview with Pat Honiotes

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Pat Honiotes, MS is a Transformational Coach for leaders who are ready and willing to step into the richer, truly unique work that is waiting for them. Pat specializes in working with those leaders who “march to the beat of a different drummer”….. who dismiss mediocrity as a way of life, rarely follow conventional rules and stand out from a group.

Pat’s methodology, skills, and talents fully support her clients to utilize their own unique personalities and skills in ways that best suit them – while neither expecting nor pushing conformity.  With their individual personalities at the forefront, Pat supports them to build their business, their lives and their world…..their way.

“We all have a birthright to dignity and respect. It’s ours to claim, and no one has the right to take that away from us” – Pat Honiotes

fERGIE’S tOP 5+ Knowledge Nuggets and Take-Aways

  1.  Embrace Authenticity: Be true to yourself in every situation. Authenticity isn’t just a trait; it’s a source of immense power and influence. 🌟
  2. Assert Your Dignity: Remember, dignity and respect are your birthrights. Never settle for less than what you deserve. 👑
  3. Listen Deeply: To connect and lead effectively, practice listening with your entire being, not just your ears. 👂👂
  4. Be Bold and Unreserved: Share your valuable ideas and contributions without hesitation, even if it challenges the norm. 🚀
  5. Appreciate the Innovators: Value those who think differently. The “odd ducks” often drive innovation and bring fresh perspectives. 🦆💡
  6. Be Direct with Compassion: Offer honest feedback in a way that is kind and constructive, aimed at helping rather than hurting. ❤️🗣️

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L. Scott Ferguson: [00:00:00] Time to shine today, podcast, varsity squad. This is Scott Ferguson. And I just had a super leveled up high energy. Absolutely. Just kick ass conversation with another coach that I call my sister from another Mista. Cause we’re both the same kind of coach and it seems like we went to the same coaching school or, , we coach a lot of the same kind of clients, people that were kind of no frills.

We don’t accept excuses. We, we make adjustments and those are the kinds of clients that we love to coach. And I got to pick the brain of the great Pat Pat Honiotes and the knowledge legacy dropped about being authentic, about her strong connection, about being okay to be an odd duck in that everybody has a right, a birthright to dignity, dignity and respect and how people lose that over time.

And she gives us. Awesome knowledge nuggets on how to circle back and really take your life back. So if somebody that is maybe struggling with [00:01:00] being authentic, please share this with them. Or if you like it, please like subscribe. My sponsors and affiliates absolutely love it. So without further ado, sit back, relax, break out your notebooks.

transformational coach, Pat Pat Honiotes. Let’s level up.

 Time to shine today. Podcast Varsity Squad. This is Scott Ferguson. And I have a treat coming to you today. Introduced to me by my good friend M Squared, Mark Mwini. That said you have to talk to my good friend, , Pat Pat Honiotes. And I was like, okay. So we had a conversation. I think we booked out maybe 15, 20 minutes.

So we ended up talking for almost an hour because we were just, We’re both coaches. We both care about pouring into people and we just, we didn’t stop talking. And it was, I wish I would have recorded it because she dropped so many knowledge nuggets for me to level up my game during that conversation. That I’m going to have to ask her again, so I can make sure I get the notes down and I want you guys out there to really break out your notebooks and [00:02:00] kind of sit back and relax because my good friend Pat Pat Honiotes is she’s a transformational coach.

For leaders who are ready and willing to step into the richer truly unique work that is waiting for them. She realizes in working with those leaders who marched to the beat of a different drummer, who dismissed mediocrity as a way of life, rarely follow conventional rules and stand out from the group.

Her methodology skills and talents fully support her clients to utilize their own unique personalities and skills in ways that best suit them while neither expecting nor Pushing conformity with their individual personalities at the forefront, Pat supports them to build their business, their lives, and their world.

Like Frankie would say their way. And Pat, thank you so much for coming out. Please introduce yourself. The time to shine today, podcast, varsity squad, but first what’s your favorite color and what purple purple. Looking, you’re rocking it today too. I love it. Why purple?

Patricia Honiotes: It just makes me feel good. I feel like something’s missing if I don’t have it on or if it’s not around me.

Right. [00:03:00]

L. Scott Ferguson: And it’s Royal and it’s regal, right? Yes. And also it’s, it’s a mix between red and blue. So as coaches, a lot of times you have to have that blue cool side, right? But the reds got to come out when we got to really kind of. Push them into their, their uniqueness. So let’s, let’s just go right to the roots.

Like, where did you start? Like where, , again, I respect you immensely. The content that you put out is amazing, but where, where did you start? Cause I know there’s an educational background and stuff like that. I started

Patricia Honiotes: when I was 12 years old.

L. Scott Ferguson: Right. Okay.

Patricia Honiotes: I had a literally, I had a, and this is what we called it then a severely mentally retarded sister.

This was in the early fifties and. Nobody wanted to work with him, so the teacher that was working with him at the YMCA started out as her teaching assistant. Oh, wow. Okay, and so it’s been a matter of teaching and standing up for those people that are different. And I don’t mean just [00:04:00] mentally handicapped, okay?

, the ones that march to the beat of a different drum or that kind of thing. Yeah. Ended up teaching high school. Special integrated the school with those kids. Okay. The, the counselors there didn’t want to work with them. So I went and got my master’s degree in counseling psych. And at the same time became a board certified medical hypnoanalyst and never, and never really counseled a a handicapped kid cause I got going and went into other things.

And so there it’s just been a ride. It has been a ride of. Bottom line, we’re, we have a birthright of dignity and respect. Okay. And that’s, that’s where all of this comes in. We can give it away, but it’s our birthright. And so it’s about holding that for people and getting them that it’s their right.

L. Scott Ferguson: Where do you think people lose their birthright?

Meaning in their own psyche, their own mind, what kind of pushes those [00:05:00] people out of that birthright of dignity and respect?

Patricia Honiotes: Many times that happens when they’re younger. And it was just reinforced as a, by the way, they’re treated by the way they’re dismissed, they’re not heard or. , it happens to everybody to a certain, , to a certain little bit, but those, yeah, we can,

L. Scott Ferguson: it’s crazy.

You say that and it’s so true because a child from what I’ve read, researched is told no, by the time they’re 13 years old, 135, 000 times. So, I mean, we are born salesmen. Are we not? It’s like, you know, you cry, mom gets you on their boobie. You know what I’m saying? Or, Hey, you know what? You’re going through the checkout line at a grocery store and there’s candy.

And you’re asking, asking, you’re told no so many times that it just shoots that dignity and respect out. I mean, kind of, am I on the right path with you there?

Patricia Honiotes: Yeah. And I think there’s more to it than that. A lot of [00:06:00] it, a lot of it too, Scott, isn’t always that that obvious. Sometimes it is so subtle. Hey, guess what, mom?

I got a B on my test today. And she goes. Rolls her eyes and goes Yeah, and you’re smart. You should get that. So we can be something that subtle Scott. Yeah

L. Scott Ferguson: instead of saying that is amazing. Do you think you’re capable of beginning better? What i’m saying? Exactly. That’s that’s amazing that yeah, that’s that it’s too bad that that was what society’s coming to and I don’t go political Or religious on this at all.

But it’s just like this whole world is kind of just pulling away from it. And there’s a mad correction that I feel is on the way, , and there’s people like you and I gratefully here to help them, , the people that want that help so well,

Patricia Honiotes: and see, here’s the other thing, there’s one more, there’s one more ingredient to that.

It’s especially true for those that marched to the beat of a different drummer that think [00:07:00] differently, that. May have some skills that other people aren’t really quite sure what that’s all about, right? And they, they get an even bigger nip in the confidence.

L. Scott Ferguson: Right. Yeah, go a little deeper on that. What do you mean by that?

Patricia Honiotes: All right. I worked with a group of people. I call the odd ducks. Okay, so, , I’ve got a I’ve got a Person in there that is all natural. She has her own cosmetic lotion company national and She gets all kind of stuff because well That’s just fake. It doesn’t mean anything. She added CBD to her, to her story.

And she was told that then she started pushing drugs. So she pulled that back.

L. Scott Ferguson: Now

Patricia Honiotes: I’m the type that I would say you need to get educated and it’s staying in, [00:08:00] but it’s things like that. I’ve got another, , people that are particularly intuitive. Some, some people that are just goofballs. And I mean that in the best sense of the word,

L. Scott Ferguson: right.

Patricia Honiotes: Or someone that, , is just. , I wear cans full of rings and purple, and some people have a problem with that. I’ve been to a network meeting where a guy said to me, do you think you could get any more rings on? I said, actually, I can wear two on, on every finger. Would you like me to wear them next time?

I

L. Scott Ferguson: love that, but

Patricia Honiotes: see, but see, not everybody is that mouthy.

L. Scott Ferguson: , I, and it’s okay that I’m the same way, right? Where, , I lived with this since 2009 with when I really kind of had to go through a correction of my own, because I was a vulture. I preyed on other people’s misfortunes, invested in real estate in, in, in helped people, but not really helped people.

But I’ve learned something that unless I’ve hurt you, judged you disrespect [00:09:00] you were, Oh, you. I give zero, , what’s about what you think about me. I just, there’s nothing that you can do unless you mess with my family or frankly, my money, there’s nothing that you can do, do to me, ? So once I got that.

That I duck in me just flew.

Patricia Honiotes: Oh yeah.

L. Scott Ferguson: , it’s yep. I love it.

Patricia Honiotes: I bet I’ve actually had clients say to me, you really don’t give a damn, do you? And I said, no, I don’t. And it’s not that I don’t, or no, you really don’t care is what they said. It’s right. I don’t, it doesn’t mean I don’t care about you. Right.

But I, and I’ve, and she said, well, can you teach me that? And I went, well, we’ll, we’ll work on that. But I’ve been that way since I was five years old.

L. Scott Ferguson: Sure.

Patricia Honiotes: So I don’t really know how to break it down and teach it except by modeling it.

L. Scott Ferguson: Love it. So are you a coach or a consultant? Are you a coach sultan like me?

I’m a coach like I consult nobody if it has to do with real estate investing because i’ve been bought my first property in 1998 I can help you with that. I can kind of [00:10:00] walk that that’s the way you want to build wealth That’s part of our coaching program, but like anything else, , I I believe , everyone knows what they want They just don’t know how to talk themselves into it, right?

And that’s what people like you and I are there for yet that That problem that resides in their heart the answer is right there next to it, right? So are you more of a coach or a consultant?

Patricia Honiotes: I’m more of a coach.

L. Scott Ferguson: Okay. Well, I figured as well Yeah,

Patricia Honiotes: when it comes to specific things, I send them to somebody else.

Thank you Even traditional business coaching. I call myself a transformational business coach But if there’s they get into business stuff, I don’t I don’t know

L. Scott Ferguson: right

Patricia Honiotes: you’re talking to the wrong person, right? sever Okay, send them to a traditional business coach. Love them.

L. Scott Ferguson: So what do you think then makes a great coach?

Patricia Honiotes: Wow, okay The ability to listen and I mean really [00:11:00] listen

L. Scott Ferguson: Love it.

Patricia Honiotes: The non judgmental

L. Scott Ferguson: Yes

Patricia Honiotes: Okay. And just give a damn. Okay. Give a damn. , I get, I get excited when they, , someone will text me and they, and I’m, or if we’re on a talk like this, I’m jumping up and down in the chair. I mean, I’m not a cheerleader, but right.

Care what they care about.

L. Scott Ferguson: Oh, I love that. And so if you’re maybe in, which we’re going to kind of get to, how people can contact you here in a little bit and have a discovery conversation, , It is there any secret sauce that you might use if you don’t mind sharing that maybe help them identify that that blind spot That they’re they’re that they have

Patricia Honiotes: I just keep asking questions

L. Scott Ferguson: Love it

Patricia Honiotes: Yes Many times they’ll discover it. That’s part of my first session. But the other thing is Sometimes they just need [00:12:00] people to name it for them. Yeah. So I can name it for them, but I back it up with proof by the things that they’ve said and the things that they’ve done.

L. Scott Ferguson: You make ’em feel like they came up with it in sense. You .

Patricia Honiotes: Got it. Well, and they really have because without them I could, well I could come up with it. I get it. You’re

L. Scott Ferguson: my sister from another, my man, I swear. Because it’s like it, like you and I are like are right along the same lines with that. So let’s say you’re kind of still in that discovery conversation.

With them. Is there any good question that you wish they would ask you, but never do?

Patricia Honiotes: No, because in the discovery session, I’m discovering them.

L. Scott Ferguson: Okay, perfect. I’m

Patricia Honiotes: discovering about them and what, and together we’re discovering each other and if we’re a fit.

L. Scott Ferguson: Right.

Patricia Honiotes: So maybe there is a question, but they must, , I say, now, what questions do you have for me? Right. Do that I’m the person for [00:13:00] you?

L. Scott Ferguson: Boom. Yeah. What, what makes you a great coach or, , are you coach? Cause there’s a lot of coaches that I know that don’t have a coach. Hey, , I

Patricia Honiotes: tell my people run.

L. Scott Ferguson: Yes. Do not

Patricia Honiotes: walk.

L. Scott Ferguson: Yes. Away from a coach that

Patricia Honiotes: isn’t being coached,

L. Scott Ferguson: right? And i’m not saying this to my home, but I literally spend six figures a year on coaching and not just mindset I do have my own mindset coach, but I also have an accountability coach I have to send a journal to by 8 a.

m. Every day. I have a body coach. I’m 52 years old. I want to , unless God decides to take me in a car wreck or plane crash, I plan to live a long time. , I, I have different things. I don’t mind pouring that money into them. One, I’m putting money out to God in the universe, but I’m also like taking what I internalize and pouring into people, , so

Patricia Honiotes: here’s the thing.

This, it boils down to you taking care of yourself. Yes.

L. Scott Ferguson: Right. Hey,

Patricia Honiotes: that’s, that’s bottom line, dude.

L. Scott Ferguson: I love it. I love you. This is awesome. [00:14:00] This is awesome. So. What do you feel then, other than curiosity, as being one of your superpowers, and actually listening, because, , a lot of people, I can just see you not really listening only with your ears, but with your eyes, and you’re looking for those eye twitches, like, I call it listening with your neck, right?

What strengths, like really leaning in, right? So what strengths, Do you really think you bring to the table outside of curiosity?

Patricia Honiotes: I’m intuitive as hell I have a really strong connection with who I call dude in my guides.

L. Scott Ferguson: Okay

Patricia Honiotes: I get downloads All right. That’s a real gift when I’m working with someone.

Okay. And there’ll be sometimes I’ll say to somebody, I don’t know where the hell this is coming from, but here’s what I’m hearing. Is that accurate? So there’s that. The other thing that I think one of my gifts, this is, I tell it like it is, look at Scott. I don’t even [00:15:00] have time to pussyfoot around.

L. Scott Ferguson: Right.

Patricia Honiotes: Okay. Yeah. Let’s name it and let’s get on with it. Let’s go. Yeah. I’m not being rude. I’m just, but we’re going to, we’re going to stick there until we name it until we get it. I love that.

L. Scott Ferguson: I love it. And it’s true. Yes.

Patricia Honiotes: If you can’t handle the straight talk, I’m not your coach.

L. Scott Ferguson: Right. I’m the same way. And that’s one of the reasons why I started time to shine.

Well, the main reason was started this podcast is to pick the brain of people like you in level up my coaching business. But then I found out, Hey, I have other coaches I can send to that aren’t in Way that I could, , give them, they’re not the right horse for every course. Right.

Patricia Honiotes: Yes.

L. Scott Ferguson: So I love it.

So we

Patricia Honiotes: have a coach. I have a coach I send people to that is very soft spoken and loving and I couldn’t coach her. She couldn’t coach me, but man, does she take care of my, my soft people.

L. Scott Ferguson: Yes. And that’s beautiful thing. And that’s being open and setting the ego to a side and say, Hey, there’s somebody else that’s better at [00:16:00] this kind of coaching than I am and not try to be it.

And they’re doing a service to them. I love it. So have you seen the movie back to the future? Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Okay. Let’s get in that door ago. Yes. I know. It came next year. It’s me. 40 years old. That’s crazy. That movie. So it came out at 85. So let’s get that DeLorean with Marty McFly. Let’s go back to the, the 22 year old, the double deuce, the 22 year old Pat.

I don’t want you to change anything that you’ve did, but is there anything knowledge nuggets that you might drop on her to maybe help her shorten a learning curve or blast through maybe just a little bit quicker?

Patricia Honiotes: Yes. Stop holding back.

L. Scott Ferguson: Give me an example where you might’ve held back.

Patricia Honiotes: A lot of people wouldn’t believe that I ever held back. However,[00:17:00]

Yeah. Cause I was in college at that point and it was at 22, I already had 10 years experience teaching the mentally handicapped. I mean, I just did. And a lot of times there were things that the professors would stay in the classroom that I go, Oh honey, when was the last time you were in the, but I didn’t say anything.

I didn’t. And I could have, I’m sure interjected without being rude, but I held back. Okay. And I regret that to some extent because. It impaired my learning but it impaired everybody else’s learning in the class as well and the teacher’s learning,

L. Scott Ferguson: right?

Patricia Honiotes: So it was kind of like a loss on all bases.

L. Scott Ferguson: Got you

Patricia Honiotes: Yeah

L. Scott Ferguson: Thank you for sharing

Patricia Honiotes: that everybody lost. Yes, everybody lost a

L. Scott Ferguson: lot of times that’ll happen , I tell people lean into your authenticity a lot of times like listen people might not like it But as long as you’re not disrespecting them You’re , they’re going to listen [00:18:00] and there might be somebody in that room or somewhere that’s going to be like, wait a minute.

That’s a damn good idea. Okay. Love it. So how about the other

Patricia Honiotes: thing is, I want to just listen to one more thing. Please, please. My coach kicks my bum periodically because I hold back on my goofiness.

L. Scott Ferguson: You know what I mean?

Patricia Honiotes: No, that’s part of that’s part of who you are. You’ve got to get and every time I just let fly.

L. Scott Ferguson: Sure.

Patricia Honiotes: It’s fine.

L. Scott Ferguson: Right? Yeah. Anyway, I just think it’s no, it ends up fine. , a lot of times it just does. I mean, every time it does, I mean, , I asked clients sometimes like how many, what percentage of the worst days of your life have you survived?

Patricia Honiotes: Well, there you go.

L. Scott Ferguson: And they’re like a hundred.

I’m like, then this too shall pass. It is going to, , let’s just prepare and learn from that experience and lean into that. So how do you pat one or dash? Remember that little line in between your incarnation date and your expiration date, your life date and death date. Hopefully it’s [00:19:00] long way down the line, but that little dash, right?

How does Pat Wanner Dash remember?

Patricia Honiotes: How does Pat, what? I’m not following you. How do you want your

L. Scott Ferguson: dash? You ever see a tombstone?

Patricia Honiotes: Yes.

L. Scott Ferguson: Okay. Born in 1972, died in 2050. There’s a little dash in between that. How do you want your dash remembered?

Patricia Honiotes: How do I want my dash remembered?

L. Scott Ferguson: How do you want people to remember you?

They’re at your funeral. How do you want people to remember you? There’s a lot that happens in that dash.

Patricia Honiotes: She laughed. She cared. She kicked butt.

L. Scott Ferguson: That is enough said I love that. So I think I might know the answer to this, but what do you think people misunderstand the most about you?

Patricia Honiotes: Wow. A lot of people misunderstand. I know that, but I

L. Scott Ferguson: don’t, I’ll just say it. Your [00:20:00] uniqueness. They probably misinterpret that for somebody that’s trying to be younger or trying to be cool And it’s just like f you dude,

Patricia Honiotes: scott, I think you’re right. I think it is that

L. Scott Ferguson: yeah I can see because you brought it up a couple times about the rings and the guy that says it’s like dude Like lean into your own authenticity, buddy.

This is me, , if you don’t like me I haven’t heard you judge you disrespect you or oh you who cares You What you think it’s just like, no, but I can see that with you. How about it? What is Pat’s definition of a life? Well lived

Patricia Honiotes: of life.

L. Scott Ferguson: Well lived am I coming through? Okay.

Patricia Honiotes: Yes. I’m, I’m dealing with my own Healing hearing loss.

Oh, no,

L. Scott Ferguson: no, no, no, no. I’m sorry, Pat. I just want to make sure we talked about the new mic before. I just want to make sure you’re

Patricia Honiotes: got it. Got it. So what’s the definition of a life well lived?

L. Scott Ferguson: Yes, your definition[00:21:00]

Patricia Honiotes: showing up to what I was here to do and share and give And having a good time doing it.

L. Scott Ferguson: That’s awesome. And you’re doing it on a daily basis, , and then that’s what matters. It’s like, if you can wake up, I mean, it’s going to be work, but if you love what you do, you don’t work a day, , but I, I was also taught this by one of my coaches, like do what you love in the service of people that love what you do.

Meaning like they’ll know if you don’t love what you do, they will know it on the spot, because if you’re coaching them and they’re like, Hey, I don’t think that Scott likes doing this, they know that I love it because I am so freaking curious like yourself. And, and just, I will keep asking, asking, asking until it comes, , there’s a fruition that will happen.

, it’s like an acorn, like tens of thousands of acorns drop on the ground. One might grow into an Oak [00:22:00] tree because the gestation period of being watered, the sunlight, and it’s like, you feed it, you water it, things grow. So that, I love that. Time to shine today, podcast, varsity squad, we are back in Pat.

I promise we will meet one day and we’ll probably talk over coffee or maybe even adult beverage or something of a few of these questions at length. But today you have five seconds to answer them and I promise you they can all be answered in that short of time.

Patricia Honiotes: All right, you got it. Let’s do it.

L. Scott Ferguson: Let’s level up.

All right. What is the best leveling up advice Pat’s ever received?

Patricia Honiotes: Be who you are all the time. I

L. Scott Ferguson: was going to say be yourself. I was almost going to like answer that for you. I love that. Cher, what are your personal habits that contributes to your success?

Patricia Honiotes: I listen to General Hospital every day for the last 40 years.

That is awesome. It’s my break, it’s my break time. Yeah. I don’t have to think about anything. I don’t have to dwell. Yeah. It’s my break time. Yeah,

L. Scott Ferguson: it’s mind candy, , I mean, [00:23:00] I even go back to Luke and Laura days. I get it man. So , I would have it up. I love it. It was because I was grounded a lot when I was a kid , so i’m like sitting there going.

Oh, what’s going on in days? What’s going on in general hospital? What I love it So if you see me walking down the street or in an event You’re like man fergie looks like he’s in his doldrums a little bit. Is there a book that really helps shape? You A lot in you that you might hand me and say, Fergie, read this.

Patricia Honiotes: Yeah, the gap in the game,

L. Scott Ferguson: the gap in the game.

Patricia Honiotes: Yeah,

L. Scott Ferguson: I, I, I actually, it’s my bookshelf that my coach wants me to read. Yes.

Patricia Honiotes: Yes. Frickin read it. Okay. Here’s the thing. When you’re, when you’re in the doldrums or you just need. In that liminal space, there’s something to learn there and it really teaches you about that and it’s good stuff.

Read it.

L. Scott Ferguson: I will listen to your coach. You got it. Love it. You hear that Berta? I have to listen to you. Okay. So [00:24:00] what’s your most commonly used emoji when you tax? If you use any at all

Patricia Honiotes: a thumbs up with a celebration thing.

L. Scott Ferguson: Love it. Love it. Nicknames growing up, Patsy, Joe, Patsy, Joe. I love it. So what age would you stay physically, physically?

With all the knowledge that you’ve garnered and still contain continue to gain wisdom, what age physically would you stay?

Patricia Honiotes: Physically?

L. Scott Ferguson: Yeah.

Patricia Honiotes: 30.

L. Scott Ferguson: Me too. 100%. 30, 30, between 30 and 32. I love it. So is there any hidden talents and or superpowers that you have that nobody knows about? Maybe until now?

Patricia Honiotes: I’m a Reiki master healer teacher.

I

L. Scott Ferguson: love it. Love it. And

Patricia Honiotes: I’ve, I’ve done three one woman shows. I love to sing. [00:25:00]

L. Scott Ferguson: Oh, that’s beautiful. I love that. Love it. Chest checkers or monopoly?

Patricia Honiotes: Monopoly.

L. Scott Ferguson: Headline for your life.

Patricia Honiotes: I did it my way.

L. Scott Ferguson: Yes. Love it. Buy into the, buy into any superstitions.

Patricia Honiotes: I don’t think so.

L. Scott Ferguson: Me neither. I used to, but I got away from it. Love it. Go to ice cream flavor.

Patricia Honiotes: Oh, butter pecan.

L. Scott Ferguson: All right. So there’s a sandwich called the Patsy Joe. Build that sandwich. What’s on that sandwich for us?

Patricia Honiotes: Peanut butter on one slice of bread with two slices of lettuce in between and miracle whip on the other.

L. Scott Ferguson: You can have that. I’m not indulgent. I’ve tried it. Not a fan, but my dad loves it. So yeah, I love it. Yeah. I’m like, sorry pops. So there’s a, you have a time machine that could take you 20 years in the future [00:26:00] or any time in your past that you can spend for one day. One day, would you go ahead? Or to the past.

Patricia Honiotes: Oh, to the head. I mean the head. I already know about past.

L. Scott Ferguson: Yeah, me too. Also, there was this really good kegger, a little beer bash back in 1989 that I definitely want to go back to. Nice. Love it. So, favorite charity and or organization you like to give your time and or money to?

Patricia Honiotes: Helios. It’s a group of singers based in Phoenix, Arizona that go back to the way early, early music.

L. Scott Ferguson: Okay. And they’re

Patricia Honiotes: bringing it back now. They’re about eight years old now. Okay. And it’s a real beautiful, beautiful music. How do you spell

L. Scott Ferguson: it, Pat?

Patricia Honiotes: H E L I O S.

L. Scott Ferguson: And they’re in Phoenix?

Patricia Honiotes: Yes.

L. Scott Ferguson: Got it. I’m gonna check into that. Love it. Last question. We can elaborate on this one, but the best decade of music 60s,

Patricia Honiotes: 70s, 80s or 90s.

You don’t even have to say the rest. I do. I do. What [00:27:00] about

L. Scott Ferguson: the 60s?

Patricia Honiotes: They were just fun and free and People people were so critical, but the rest of us were having a good time.

L. Scott Ferguson: Yeah, and there’s stories in those songs

Patricia Honiotes: Yeah with big hair. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah

L. Scott Ferguson: hippies and but yeah, you had everybody back then in yes, like I’m an 80s.

So 80s is kind of my jam there’s a lot of stuff that happened that decade of decadence, but when I’m actually Listening or like, like when I re listen to this and build my notes and stuff like that, I like, I love the sixties and seventies because there’s stories, , that’s there. So let me, let me take that one little step.

So Beatles, Stones, Beach Boys are the four seasons. If you had to pick one of those four Beatles, okay, gotcha. Gotcha. I’m a Four Seasons guy, , with Frankie Valli and it’s funny with the Four Seasons They had a number one hit before [00:28:00] the Beatles during the Beatles and after the Beatles, So I didn’t like I see Frankie Valli.

I haven’t missed him except for the COVID year Since I moved down here to Florida of 11 years, I missed him that one year, but he’s 80 something years old, almost 90 and he’s still good. He doesn’t sing all the songs. He has like a lot of people that mimic him and stuff, but he’ll do his, his best, , best songs.

You know, you’re too good to be true, ,

Patricia Honiotes: so

L. Scott Ferguson: Pat, how can we find you love?

Patricia Honiotes: Ah, for this group, I’m going to give you my direct.

L. Scott Ferguson: Okay.

Patricia Honiotes: Email me pat at no pat Pat Honiotes at gmail. com is one way.

L. Scott Ferguson: Gotcha.

Patricia Honiotes: I’m on Facebook. Okay. I’m on LinkedIn and it’s all under pat Pat Honiotes.

L. Scott Ferguson: I love it. And squad that is spelled H O N I O T E S.

And it’s just like, if you say honey and then Otis, I [00:29:00] love that. I love it. And I want to make sure that I do have this. Yep. I do have it in there. Beautiful. So tell us a little bit about what you’re offering. Our squad here with regards to the boundaries.

Patricia Honiotes: I have to tell you. Sometimes we just need a way to, to check ourselves.

So we developed the boundaries checklist. And it’s a list of 20 things that you can go, Oh yeah, I do that. Oh man, I need some work on this. Okay. And it’s a checklist and I have people, especially we’re in the middle is for starting working with me. It’s a great place to start, by the way. I have them do it at least once a week, because awareness always, always, always gives you a choice.

All right. So there’s that part of it.

L. Scott Ferguson: So

Patricia Honiotes: what we’re going to do is anyone that wants a copy of that boundaries worksheet, there’s a link there that you can hit. Here’s the magical part of that link. When you hit the link and get your boundary scorecard, there’s also another [00:30:00] link that you can hit that will give you access to my calendar.

And what that will do is give you 15 minutes with me for coaching around that boundary scorecard.

L. Scott Ferguson: That is very generous of you. Oh, it’s so much fun. I know. How know how you are too. It won’t be just 15 minutes. . . Sorry. But . I know, I know, I know. I’m not saying that to take advantage of you, but I know that how much you care.

 In in you want this world in the in the people to be authentic and lean into that authentic selves I love it. So also I’m thinking I was feeling a vibe of some badassery or something beyond the horizon

Patricia Honiotes: Scott new program starting probably we’re putting a finishing touches on it now

L. Scott Ferguson: Okay,

Patricia Honiotes: I’m looking at two or three weeks before we launch it business badassery.

L. Scott Ferguson: Okay

Patricia Honiotes: And when you start becoming aware and doing the things that we ask you to do in that program, like [00:31:00] work on your boundaries, learn how to delegate, overcoming overwhelm, but most importantly, bringing all this inner stuff out that’s impacting those things that you don’t know about, people begin to kick butt.

L. Scott Ferguson: Love I

Patricia Honiotes: get excited about this. Can you believe it?

L. Scott Ferguson: I don’t know why I mean I love it And pat my love. Can you do me one last solid and this the listeners one last solid it’ll leave us with one last knowledge Nugget we can take with us internalize and take action on

Patricia Honiotes: I sound like a broken record and I don’t care Please please please be you all the time in every situation Let it fly

L. Scott Ferguson: I love it. And that is a awesome reminder that my good, awesome sauce friend. Pat Pat Honiotes, , laid on a sheet, laying down a so many knowledge and I get squat, , she was passionate [00:32:00] about teaching and standing up for those that marched to the beat of their own drum.

, she reminded us that we have a birthright of dignity and respect. And a lot of times that’s really shot down in subtle ways by our parents or authority figures and people we look up to. Just be careful about what you’re saying to the future people out there. That’s all I can say is like, just.

Encourage them because they will pick up on those negative cues and it, it stops them from being their own odd duck self. You want the odd ducks out there. You want them out there charging. , Pat is somebody that I respect immensely. And she, like I said, she listens with her neck. No judging. She gives a damn because curiosity is her superpower squad.

And that’s the people that I vibe well with, , she’s intuitive, a strong connection with her dudes or her guides that are out there. She wants you to stop holding back. , unless you’ve hurt somebody, judge somebody, Oh, somebody who cares what they think about you squad, just be [00:33:00] yourself. , she’s somebody that is.

gonna be remembered as someone who laughed, cared and kicked butt because she showed up who she was authentically. She reminded us that awareness always gives you a choice. , my, my friend Pat is, , she’s planting trees. She’s never going to sit in the shade. She does things for the intention, not the attention.

You don’t see her out in social trying to get big or bragging all that shit, Scott. She really generally, she’s giving you 15 minutes of her time to find that boundary. So please take advantage of it. Check the show notes. It is down there. And lastly, she reminded us, please, please, please be you all the time.

And in all situations. Cause there is only one you, and I’m so glad that there is one Pat Pat Honiotes. She levels up her house. She levels up her wall. She’s absolutely gorgeous. Fun at heart. She’s our diversity squad letter here at time to shine. Did I cannot wait to collaborate with her in the future?

Thank you again, Pat, for coming on again. I love your guts.

Patricia Honiotes: Thank you so much [00:34:00] for having me, Scott. Thank you.

L. Scott Ferguson: Welcome chat

Patricia Honiotes: soon.

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