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Hey, this is Marcus often with Ogden ventures LLC. And if you really want to learn how to level up your life, you should be listening to the time to shine today pockets with my good friend Scott Ferguson, time to shine today podcast versus squad we’re at episode 266 with my boy, former NFL lineman, coach, speaker extraordinare all about mindset and that being the concrete undertone to your success. I’m blown away by this interview. Got a free football giveaway at the end sidebar by Marcus. And it’s just fantastic human being an absolute beast not just physically but mentally break out your notebooks sit back, relax, because here comes my really good friend Marcus Ogden from Ogden ventures LLC. Let’s level up courage to share and get a podcast varsity squad This is Scott Ferguson and I were coming up on the end of the year man and I got mad mad treat someone that you know you’ve heard me interview. Jed Collins a couple other you know, people that played for the shield, you know, for the NFL and I got somebody with a Monster Monster following awesome, fantastic speaker, Mr. Marcus Ogden, you know, he grew up in a single parent home of the Father that inspired perseverance and fairness which I think that’s awesome a father that inspired perseverance and fairness. Marcus Ogden, learn how to define his values and set goals. I then attended Howard University from 98 to 2002, where he played division one football he then filed his dream and his brother Jonathan’s footsteps eventually getting drafted into the NFL in 2003. Overall, he played for five years as an offensive lineman with the Titans Bill’s ravens Jaguars even during the offseason, I can help train football players in Europe or physically, mentally. And also, I want you to go to his afterword dung, go to his YouTube channel. He has like super short one minute clips that will level you up the one that I loved. And it’s actually the last clip. It’s not that I just watched that when I watched like 20 of them. But if you can’t pivot, you can’t shine and we’re time to shine here. So that’s what we want to do is want to help you level up So Jonathan, welcome to the to the show. Please introduce yourself to time to shine today. Podcast. First you squat. But first, what’s your favorite color? And why? Red? I always loved red Scott from day one. It’s just always been my color. Yeah, I’m terrible. I should know this. But is that and you that read in Howard University at all? No, it’s not all blue and white. Okay, gotcha. High School, St. John’s was Scarlet and gray. So there was a lot of red in St. John’s College High School. I went to high school and play football. That’s awesome. That’s awesome. It’s awesome to have someone you know of your credentials and somebody that is going to help my squad our listeners level up, man, I’ve been stoked stoked to have you come on in my good friend Jason Holzer. I’m gonna throw a shout out to him. He kind of connected us here in Marcus, let’s get to just some of the origins. You’re raised by a single father. And I don’t see color brother at all. That’s just not how I’m raised. But man, you were raised by a single black man. Correct? Correct. That is frickin awesome, dude. I’m sorry. There’s a stigma that’s going on out there. I want to first applaud Mr. Ogden himself for what he digs he raised two phenomenal young man leave it that there but you give us a little bit of your upbringing and then kind of getting through, you know, the school, the college and then maybe playing for the shield and what got you into what you’re doing now by helping people take the lives to the next level? Yeah, so I’m from Washington, DC went to St. John’s College High School in Northwest DC, same high school that Kevin Plank who started Under Armour went to got one scholarship offer to go to university with the higher University pay for the bias. And my dad also was a higher University football player back in the 60s and 70s. I carried on that blood line. And I love college. Scott, I was a four year starter at offers a tackle and I played seven the last six games in my senior year. And I want to be an investment banker wanted to work on Wall Street. I interned at Merrill Lynch, my junior year, I was loved it. But the NFL had different plans for me went to the hula bowl and I had a really great game a couple of names. You’re gonna know Mack Brown was my head coach for my team Nexus. Yeah, yeah. My quarterback was Kliff Kingsbury is a coach in Arizona, right? Correct. Okay, got my head coach. That was my quarterback on my team. So had a great great hula ball in draft into the National Football League by the Jacksonville Jaguars. Jack Del Rio, who is now the Washington football team defensive coordinator was my rookie head coach, right? The NFL lots of great players I play with guys like my brother, Ray Lewis and Reed Fred Taylor, guys like Wilson again, he

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read Scruggs. Right? So so, you know phenomenal athletes play with guys like how VandenBosch our hands work. And I was coached by great guys like Jack Del Rio, Brian billet. Mike Mularkey did Ciaran and of course Jeff Fisher, the NFL taught me how to beat my own CEO and take control of my life. Because even though I was an employee of the teams, right, Scott, I still was my own person, my own brand, and I had to act accordingly. Moving forward to get where I wanted to get in my life after the NFL, your own brand that hits hard, man, because a lot of people want to go out there and mimic other people. You know, and you’re your own brand for your it seems like you You probably always had that dream of playing in for the Oh, um, how do I say this? The the whole concept of it kind of coming back at you after the hula bowl and you’re actually realizing that you’re and can you tell us a little bit more and go a little bit deeper on that? Yeah, so I wanted to always play football as far as I could and go as far as I could. So for me, it was really about the ability to show and prove to myself right, Scott, I could do it. So when you get only one scholarship offer at the very end of your high school recruiting process, you don’t think you’re gonna be an NFL athlete? I mean, that’s just not what you should be thinking about. If you think about trying to go to college, get education do what you got to do. Sure. For me when I became a star as a freshman okay, it’s it’s pretty cool. I’m the I’m the only freshmen with all C’s opposite line. We had a lot of great guys in that league and played well did well and then sophomore year got better Junior got better. And then right before my senior years got started seeing my name, NFL draft books and magazines and all this type of stuff. And then I caught my brother’s agent asked him what he thought about his hail Marcus. People are I knew go into your last year give it your all, as Greg did had a great senior year. Luckily for me, God was watching out and he brought into my life coach Keith comma, Foro who was our strength coach. That was the first time Howard ever got a strength coach was my last year and he helped me train for the calm by training for my pro days, get my strength up my speed up my way up. And I went to the hula ball, my agent Marvin demo, who had my brothers and other big name people got me in to the hula ball. And I had a great game and from there I was everybody’s draft board and I got drafted. And I’m still today, Scott, the first and I’m still the only offensive lineman ever drafted from higher University to the National Football League really tackles corners, quarterbacks running backs, but I’m the only o lineman drafted to the National Football League from Howard. Well, and then as you go through, I’ve been that one to ask people like yourself or Jeff Saturday are people that were 323 30 And what are you walking around at right now? Not to set by 265. Okay, so what is your identity now with that man? Because let me explain this. I grew up skinny kid, right? Like, you have a scrappy, a Russell, pretty damn good wrestler. You know, I was scrappy. But then I went in the Navy, and I did my deed, and to do what I had to do, and everybody’s lifting got big man, I’m walking on right now to 66 163 guy, but I still have that skinny man mentality. Right? How about you? Like, is it different as you’re coming down? Yeah, it’s different because you realize that you’re not the size that you used to be. But also you have to also understand the job that you did require you to be a certain size so you could do it efficiently and not get hurt. So when I play at Miami, you had guys on the other side of the ball, Albert Haynesworth 360 Vince wolf work, you know, close to four pounds. Tim Bowen Sam Adams, you know, you had like, you know, John Henderson Marcus Stroud. I mean, you had just juggernaut defensive tackles. You had some pretty big D ends like Kevin Carter, Michael Stringham that were big and fast and

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yeah, all those do jack, Reggie White, you know, so the game call for a certain level of size right now effectively and be able to mentally and physically endure a season. Right. Firstly, when I was playing, I was a lot more running the football than it was today. Shut a lot more Pass happy League and you’re seeing lining a little bit smaller, a little bit more agile, but I feel it was hurting the game is lack of being able to have contact in practice. Sure. We’re in training camp and you’re getting a lot of injuries next guys out for me like the guys like Christian McCaffrey like, you know, he’s I mean, he’s just never healthy, great football player right? Can’t stay healthy. So that can be his legacy, you know, a great player that couldn’t stay healthy, right? No, not kidding. In practice, God is making these these things a lot harder for players to do to get their timing down their patterns down. The game today is so much different. I love that. And that’s really leveling up at the practice. And it’s just kind of coming back now to where they’re trying to protect people’s health and whatnot. And but let me assume it as you go through and you started your coaching business. What what really got that started? First of all, I have some follow up question I’ve been wanting to ask you for the last three weeks, like how did we roll into that? So the coaching business started after my speaking business started to pick up start speaking in September 2013. After I had my bankruptcy, I lost my home, both cars repossessed in the same day, lost everything. And I ended up working at Merrill Lynch for a short time got fired, went to a construction company the next day fire five days later, fire twice in the same week, took a job as a custodian making $8.25 an hour on the graveyard shift. I had my rock bottom moment of clarity Scott was someone’s trash, rotten meat nasty, but shooting garbage on my body, my skin and my clothes. That was my wake up call. And I decided to launch my speaking business. Two and a half years didn’t elevate one time not one paid job. But looking back on it, Scott, I was all about trying to get the sale, not about building relationships. And I came across desperate from a position of scarcity. And because of that no one hired me got my first paid job, April 2016. I’ve been getting coached by other people learning the crap. And I in the last now almost six years worked for 30 fortune 500 companies as a speaker 30. And the coaching evolved because I was speaking on stage doing a lot inspirational and giving people action steps talks. And people wanted more from the audience. They wanted more follow up, they wanted more than just an hour talk or two hour workshop. So that was a catalyst that launched my coaching or our coaching business. I love that. I love that. And I love that you took responsibility, man. You know what I’m saying? It’s like my coach that coaches me and that I coach, some highly influential people myself, and I’m like, Listen, man, the responsibilities the ability to respond. And when you’re getting paid that $8.25 an hour you were taking responsibility for your time, but I understand, you know, underneath that you were more than that. And I think that once you took that responsibility you leveled up might say in a little bit correctly, you’re saying 100% correctly. Once I took full accountability for my mistakes with my construction company, Caden, stop blaming my partner, the developer, the contract of my employees. Once I looked at the person, the mayor and saw Marcus Ogden was a culprit, he was the one that made the mistakes and he’s got to get things going again. He has to take full responsibility and accountability and move forward. That’s what I did. And that’s how again, it’s been. And I tell you, it’s not gonna happen overnight. Like I started September 2013. Scott, first paid job, April 2016. Here we are about to beat we’re in December 2021. And now 30 fortune 500 clients we’ve worked for, but it didn’t come overnight, but it started with a time to shine today that day on the curb with my head in my hands crying, saying if I’m gonna get my life back, I gotta shine today. Yeah. Everybody from the past. I love it. I love it. That’s that’s what I have a similar story that that sought out by Oprah and Sally, Jessy, Raphael, and all those talk shows in the 90s. And it was when I took responsibility and ownership is when I started to, you know, Shine myself. That’s awesome, man. So when you’re working with people and clients, and you’re maybe starting to bring in them in what is any of your secret sauce there I you know, Marcus that helped them find their blind.

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So the biggest thing we work on Scott is mindset and getting them to understand that it starts and ends with them. A lot of people want help on marketing or sales, how to become a better speaker, how to grow into a position in your organization, how to grow a business, but I tell all of our clients. There’s three main principles of a successful business, you’re going to have operational excellence, quality product, an excellent customer service. But before those three things can be foundationally put into the ground to start building up. Your mindset is like the concrete that sets the foundation. If you don’t have a strong mindset, and I call it been but never break mindset, I feel you’ll never hit success. Every successful person has gone through something, you’ve gone through something, Oprah was told she never succeed. Daymond John was told he would never have a successful business. Mark Cuban a catch up pack is Bill Gates got turned on by like 530 Some investors before he got with Microsoft, Java was fired from Apple. I mean, the list goes on and on. So the mindset has to be one that is going to be the concrete of the foundational undertone, that you know everything else upfront. Love it. That’s 100% True. Do you have the mindset is your foundation. So when you’re starting to work with companies or even individuals, one on one, Marcus, is there any good question that you wish they would ask you but never do? Yeah, well, I wish they would ask me what are my three biggest strengths? Because I tell everyone, every first client call I have with somebody when I onboard a new client for that first call. Tell me your story. What are your three biggest strengths? What are the three things you want to improve upon the most? Now notice guy I always start with what are your three biggest strengths? I want you in the mindset of what you do? Well, yeah, that Marvin said you focus on your strengths or your weaknesses. I said focus on your strengths. If you’re continuing to get strong at your strengths, your weaknesses can improve. For example, love speaking, podcasting. I’m always working on my craft. I used to really suck at technology, like how to set like a visual background for my cell phone zoom, or do PowerPoints while I’m doing things on Zoom. Right? What because I’m speaking more, doing more webinars doing more virtual interaction with people, I’ve gotten better at how to operate Xulon technology because I’ve been focusing on my strength of speaking, which has helped me get better at my weakness of stinking that technology, as well. Webs reps reps maybe got to do the reps. So how about this though? Is there any good question that you wish your student Tom your student your client would ask you, but never do it? No, I wouldn’t know I would I wish they would ask me Scott, what are my straw years? I got it. Okay. correctly. I love it. No one ever does. I love it. You know, if they know what my strengths are, they’ll understand how I engineered backwards towards my new passion, my new career. So Marcus, how? To what extent do you appreciate your limitations? Very much, so I know what I’m good at. And I know what I suck at. So for example, I suck at videography. I have an amazing videographer, I pay him per job. I stink at like creating picture images and stuff for social media. My Content Strategist. She’s amazing. I’m horrible at website, SEO. I’ve got my website guy. How to trademark something. So I’ve got a trademark and patent guy in Cleveland, right, obviously. So what I’ve learned Scott is how to delegate tasks to team members, the most successful and smartest people are the ones that delegate and find someone smarter than them in that version of what you need to make happen your video or whatnot to, to level you up. I’m this exact same way and Danny’s over here laughing at me because he knows I wouldn’t be able to do this. If it wasn’t for him. I am. And that’s why cated my construction company failed. I tried to micromanage everyone, everything myself, or try to have everything done with me, micromanaging all of my leaders that fail and I’ll never make that mistake again. You won’t

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and that’s awesome that you’re learning on the fly as well. Instead of pausing too long. You can it’s just like every play is within itself. You know I’m a student at Trevor mo Ed, you know, unfortunately passed away you know, it limbless mines and whatnot, but I’ve studied under him. And it’s like, you know, neutral thinking is what all you guys under the shield really do. Because every player is different. You know what I’m saying? It’s like, you know, you have a shitty play. You missed a block. But guess what, you got the next one that’s in front of you, man, and always pushing through. So you got to ask yourself, man, have you seen the movie Back to the Future? Of course. Okay, let’s get that DeLorean with Marty. Let’s go back to the double Deuce the 22 year old Marcus. What kind of knowledge nuggets we call here at times. Chinedu kind of knowledge nuggets. You drop it on him too. Make him help him, maybe shorten the learning curve level up or blast through just a little bit quicker. I would have told my 20 year old self to hire a mindset coach, plain and simple, because I needed somebody to help me push through my hard times adjusting to the National Football League, adjusting to the speed, the level of play, I need my to help me adjust to life beyond the Gridiron, like how to be more responsible how to really focus on investing and taking my money and making it work for me at a young age. And I know that now, with age, I didn’t understand that I didn’t understand the values of 401k IRAs Roth, I didn’t understand how to put money to the side for late I wanted my money in my account to look at now. Yeah, that’s not the way to be. So Marcus at 22 If I’m going back in that DeLorean, I’m telling him or I’m making him more more better work, hire a coach mindset and a business coach to help him prepare for life as he matures and gets into how to use the NFL and the platform to double business something again, the business I got into Scott, I should have never been in construction. Right? I was chasing money so you are yet in a business because we said Marcus. Great idea. Wrong industry. Let’s try here. Let’s try there. Yeah, because I had no one to read to lean on Scott. I made some really bad mistakes and a lot of success in the beginning. Sure. Mostly it caught up with me and I lost everything. Yeah. And you were chasing like you said the paper instead of service and servicing people man which is credibly important. So I got a question for you. How do you want your dash remembered actually got this from from Ray. Okay, Louis, how do you want your dash remember that little line in between your incarnation date, your expiration date, your life date, your death date? on your tombstone? How do you want Marcus’s dash inspire people to take accountability. That’s why I want people to know me for the guy who owned his mistakes, and the guy that helps you succeed where he failed, and helps you be inspired by accountability. To take command of your own journey. Your own destiny. Love it. And that’s you can’t ask for nothing more than that. Absolutely, just own it take responsibility, the ability to respond. I love this conversation. So what do people misunderstand the most about markets? They think Marcus at times I it’s gotten so much better. But sometimes people think Marcus talks a lot about football and his presentations. Not the case. I spoke to the Ohio State University athletes three weeks ago in Columbus. And one of the coaches wanted to make sure that wasn’t going to talk a lot about football and the good old days because that wouldn’t relate to the to the athletes. And I told one of the other coaches said, that’s about 30 to 45. Second part of my talk is the NFL. That’s it. At the other hour, I’m going to be up there it’s gonna miss this my life stories, metaphors to help these young athletes see how to put themselves where I was so smarter and better than me and well received in Ohio, the Ohio State love to talk as a matter of fact, I’m now in talks with the University of Michigan about coming to talk to their athletes in the in the winter. And I love it man. I’m from Detroit, bro. And I’m a sporty fan. So when both of those teams lose, I’m good. I’m Michigan State guy, man girl through Mel Tucker. I hope you signed that contract bro. I hope he gets it like there’s a spot to make him one of the highest paid college football coaches to keep them there. Because I’m just glad that LSU didn’t snake him and stuff like that because what he’s doing for my party, that’s awesome. It’s awesome that you also can use the shield as credit for you. But I listened and I’ve watched a lot of your content that’s out there and you don’t you don’t you don’t throw that out there which shows humility at the same time is really helping people level up. So Marcus, what keeps you up at night man

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just continuing to have balance in my life and never forget that my family is the most important and just always being there for my wife and you know I’m 41 right now and so I’m still young young side of my current young buck baby, but still you want to make a time flies I remember when we first got here in 2013 Struggling I was 32 years old. No money no direction we have my stepdaughter was here not my birthday was even here yet. And just trying to make ends meet now we’re in. We’re into a new home that we just bought where we’re selling in here. It’s really nice and Business is great and things also move but I need to always just remember to keep my family first especially my wife because my wife’s with me right Scott through my bad, baby. Yeah, everything we met in men in July 2012. I started my bankruptcy proceedings in March 2013. And she’s the whole time that’s like my lady man Susan, she’s been there. Ryder dive and and do anything for that keeps me up at night a little bit as well make sure everything’s provided for and cared for. So what is Marcus’s definition of a life well lived. Helping people accomplish the best version of themselves, or a better way of putting it, helping people turn their goals into accomplishments. Goals are what we want to do accomplishment scout of what we have done. Goals are extremely important. People pay you for your service, based off your accomplishments. So helping people turn their goals into accomplishments, Scott, that is my what I want to be my lifelong, you know, journey. Do you you’re the plan, man. That’s I’m going to call you now because you know, Herm Edwards said one time, you know, a goal without a plan as a wish. Yep, you’re the plan, man. Dude, I swear that you said exactly how I would say to people as well because you can have all the goals you want, man, but you got to have that path. You got to have that plan, bro. If not, like Herman said it’s a wish. Yeah, that’s fantastic, man. So hey, time to shine today podcast. Firstly, spot we are back. We got Marcus Ogden speaker, coach, extraordinary, extraordinary. Also, starting lineman in there in the NFL in his past life, but I’ve been so stoked to have this interview and we’re going to level up Marcus with our leveling up lightning round here. You and I could talk an hour, probably two hours in each one of these questions, but you got five seconds. No explanations. You ready to level up? No, let’s do it. Marcus, what’s the best level of advice you’ve ever received? Learn how to be an active listener. Okay, yeah, sure. One of your personal habits that contributes to success going to the gym every single day. Love it, other than your website, which I’m going to read it to our audience right now, which is Marcus agonists Mar ques og de and.com Marcus eigene that calm are also time to shine today.com a shameless plug. What other website does Marcus like to go to to level up? Mark says go to Tony Robbins websites get information, my man. So if you see me and you’re like, man, Fergie, he looks in his doldrums. He says, Dude, I gotta approach or what book would you be handing me? Ah, act like a success. Think like a success by Steve Harvey. Yeah, absolutely love that. Love it. Which most commonly used emoji when you text. Ah, her hands. Love it. Any nicknames growing up? Scooter, Scooter. Awesome. And don’t lie to me on this one because you played for the shield and I know you feel it every morning. If you could stay one age physically for the rest of your life. Continue to gain wisdom and keep the knowledge you’ve garnered. What age would you stay physically? 25 All right, thank you for putting a two or three on the front of that a lot of people will shoot me all day. What was your New Year’s resolution? To lose weight and get healthier? Love it. chess or checkers? Checkers. Man favorite charity and organization you’d like to give your time or money to? Boys and Girls Club? Thank you for saying that. My man. This one you can elaborate a little bit Marcus. But what’s the best decade of music 60s 70s 80s or 90s? I am totally a 90s guy. Rap hip hop. Rock. I’m totally in harmony Biggie to pop out of all that. I’m gonna be 50 man so I might be more with your brother in the 80s Right. I mean 80s was revolutionary with Run DMC LL Cool. J. The pioneers rap, right? It’s all about it’s all about big to pop in the 90s There it is. Be. That’s it right there. Yeah.

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I mean, if you come into my car when you come to South Florida, you’re gonna see 880s on eight or 99 That’s the only two channels I listen to it. And then my dad gets in the car when he comes down from Alabama and it’s like country or something which I don’t mind it but he changes my stuff. So Marcus, how can we find your brother? Go to our website WWE, Markus ma R qu e s OG the OG D and calm or you can go to our LinkedIn Marcus opt in Twitter at Marcus underscore Ogden, Facebook Mark Marcus out there and Instagram Marcus often Love it. Love it. And Marcus in all of those will be in the show notes squad. And I’m going to give a giveaway here Marcus doesn’t mind I’m going to buy a football and then have it sent to Marcus. And if you don’t mind, Hancock in it for me if you don’t mind, I mean again, I don’t even practices. Absolutely. And I’m gonna get it out to the first listener that says full responsibility in any of the posts full responsibility. It could be Pinterest, Instagram, LinkedIn, whatnot. I’m going to have Marcus send you by my dime, a sign football from him to put on your mantle because this man is going big. And I’m just so blessed to have him. Marcus, just one last favor. And leave us with one last Knowledge Nugget you want us to take with us internalize and take action. One of my favorite quotes by man a lot of I think everybody knows Aristotle, in times of extreme darkness, focus on the light. It is so easy to really talk about everything negative, everything is cloudy, gloomy human instinct a lot of times, unfortunately, is to not celebrate our wins. But good lord beat ourselves down when we fail. I love it. Man. When I was going through my hard time, I focused on the glimmer of light, which was my father and his legacy, pushing out the darkness pushing out the darkness. And now today, my role is 98% light. And my father always comes in his legacy, any type of film, you know, sadness of that. It’s gone in an instant. So my life today is so much more light because 13 I’ve focused on that life. Wait. So my world was darkness.

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I love that man. It’s crazy. Because people will say, you know that, you know, people laugh at me on the golf course. I’m not that good. But I’m positive all the time. I call for you have that positive, get Yeah, you know, and I’m like, it didn’t get me a good score, but 100% of the time, but I’ll tell you what gets you a good score. A bad score. 100% of time is negative. It is dude 100% Man, that’s why I stay neutral and get it going in squad you have just gotten a free masterclass, from my good friend, Marcus ikan. You know, he wants you to be your own CEO and can take control of who you who your life is, who your brand is, and who you are. You know, Marcus is somebody that lived for the day. But he plans now to live forever, and be a legacy to the people that he’s passing out to. He’s doing that on a daily basis. He wants you to take full responsibility, the ability to respond, we say your time to shine today. You want you to take responsibility, own your life and get rocking and rolling. You know, mindset is the pillar, the bedrock, everything, everything starts and ends. With a mountain mindset. It sets the foundation to your operations, your quality product, and your excellent customer service. You can’t have those three. Without that salad mindset of foundations. You know, he wants you to ask your coach and hopefully it’s Marcus or anybody else to hear in our time to shine today. Squad of coaches, you know what their three strengths are? Where are they coming from and also come to the table with your three strengths because Marcus says Listen man, if you concentrate your your three strengths, your weaknesses can be worked through bottom line. You know he wants you to know what you’re good at and what you suck at and what you suck at delegate. We’ll just ended that back because I talked about that all the time. You know, he would have told his younger self higher mindset coach, hire a financial coach, if you’re younger, get on the right road earlier. And like my good friend Leah Woodford will say get your asking gear, ask questions of people that have been there. If you’re in the NFL, you’re moving forward ask the people that are on their second contracts, the people that are playing for the big money, how they do how they do things in the morning. If you’re in business do the same thing as someone that’s been there get your ass in gear and get rocking and rolling. You know he’s someone that’s inspired the people he wants to be will any will be respond. Remember to someone that inspire people to take accountability for their selves and their actions is going to be someone that metaphorically slid over home plate bumped bruise but a frickin winner you know and he wants you to turn he’s going to be also remember someone that turns all goals and accomplishments. He’s a plan man again, a goal without a plan is a wish. And again, he pulled from the Aristotle as far as back you gotta remember we’re all regurgitating stuff. I’m regurgitating stuff from Tony Robbins, who regurgitate from Earl Nightingale to Wallace Wattles all the way back to the starter, the OG Aristotle, the in the time of darkness, focus on the light. And that’s exactly how Marcus got out of his time. And he made himself time to shine a mark. So I’m so blessed. You’ve earned your varsity squad letter here. Not that you need another one. But thank you so much for coming on, man. I really appreciate it. Love your guts, Scott. Appreciate it, man. Thanks a lot. Talk soon. Bye now. Hey, thanks so much for listening to this episode of time to shine today podcast. proudly brought to you by Sutter in New Jersey real estate real estate excellence that can be reached at 561-249-7266 and online at www dot Sutter in nugent.com. If you’re a business owner or professional who would like to be in interviewed on time to shine today, please visit time to shine today.com Flash gust. If you liked this episode, please subscribe on Apple podcasts, Google podcasts, Stitcher, Spotify, I Heart Radio or wherever you get your podcast. There’s a link in the show notes to our website. Also there you will see our recommended resources. We hope that you will support our show by supporting them. If you like what you have been listening to, it’d be great if you could just give us a five star rating and tell your friends to subscribe while you’re at it. I’m your host, Scott Ferguson. And until next time, let’s level up it’s our time to shine

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