318-Get On Page ONE of Google, More Reviews and Organic Traffic! – TTST Interview with Founder of Rebel Fish Local Liz Cortes

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Liz Cortes went from fitness influencer to working full-time with her husband at RebelFish Local marketing agency in San Diego. They help local businesses get more traffic with local SEO and help them get more clients by implementing StoryBrand copywriting to their website.

   I want to see and help  more families work together and build small business and thrive

– Liz Cortes

Knowledge Nuggets and Take-Aways

1. 80% of companies have not claimed their Yelp profile, if you are a business owner claim yours NOW!

2. At the top of the list of core values for Rebel Fish Local is great relationships

3. If you are running ads on the ‘net’ you should be doing local SEO also!

4. If you wish to hide your physical address on Google and Yelp

5. Rebel Fish Local believes in slow, consistent growth for your business

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Speech Transcript (very little editing so not exact)

Please introduce yourself the time to shine today. Podcast first and squat. But first, what’s your favorite color? And why?

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My favorite color is white. Really? White? White White pillows? I love everything white? I’m a white desk. Is that even a color?

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It is absolutely a cow. Yes, absolutely. White is fantastic. Why?

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I just think it looks clean. I like simple. And it’s everybody out

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it’s an everybody’s color wheel. You know anybody? Right? So let’s get to your origins a little bit from being kind of a fitness influencer, which are pretty well put together I see that that’s awesome. Obviously still take care of yourself, but how that kind of merged in with your hobby and building rebel fish. Yeah, so

Unknown Speaker  3:18  

I yeah, I moved to San Diego where all the fitness people go after graduating from college. I thought it would make so much more money out here. Going to the Capitol fitness. No, I made more money in Albuquerque, New Mexico. And fitness that I did over here. Wow. Wow. A lot of competition here. But I met my husband because he wanted to lose 100 pounds. Okay, so he hired me. Of course, he wanted to get to know me he he was like, Hey, I’m gonna marry that woman I’m gonna pay her helped me lose 100 pounds. And so that’s all we got to know each other. And then rebel fish came seven years later, we’ve been married 11 years now. Oh, beautiful.

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Lucky dude. Man. He had his his tactics in place. That’s fantastic.

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He did it works. Yeah. So

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tell me a little bit about what rebel fish does.

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Yeah, so we love working with local businesses. So that isn’t just in San Diego. A local business means that you want customers within like five to 10 minutes of your physical location. Now like financial planners, or realtors, you probably don’t have a physical location. But you work with people in your city, you’re so want to get local customers. And if you’re an online business error coach, you can still get traffic locally, by like tapping into Google Maps and sending traffic to your website. So that’s what we do. We help set up those systems and structures so that you can get more local traffic to your site, which if they can get to your site, they can schedule a call if you’re high tech. Get like they can or come to your business. That’s we do all that tech stuff. Okay, tech and analytics and the numbers, all that stuff. My team is amazing for us.

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So what’s the biggest mistake people make when they’re trying to draw people to them through online to their physical locations? What do you think the biggest mistake is people are making?

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Well, AD, I think it’s 80% of people have not claimed their Yelp profile. 80% of local businesses have not done that. So that’s a Top Mistake. With gute. When it comes to Google, I think the stat is two thirds of businesses have not claimed their Google profile. Wow. So for iPhone users, your Apple Maps connects to Yelp. And for everyone else, whatever phone you have, it all connects to Google Maps. So if you have not claimed that it’s free to use login, create an account and say, This is my business. And like you get a postcard or somebody’s they just send you an email or call your business line, you claim it then you can add photos, you can make sure your address is correct. Your hours, all that stuff, which is so important now, with kind of like businesses aren’t operating normal hours. For the past couple of years. No, I have closed down. It’s confusing. I go all the time to a business. And I’m like, they’re closed. Like it says they’re open on Yelp or Google? Sure. So I think that’s the biggest mistake that local businesses make. And then for the online people, you guys can tap into this too. If you work from home, you can just hide your address. And you can tap into Google and Yelp and you hide your address by being a service area business. So you say I service 50 miles or 25 or 100, whatever you want. If I say that we’re like out into the ocean.

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Right, right. Right, right. No, I feel like right here.

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But yeah, I think that’s the biggest mistake. People make

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huge nuggets, they’re usually I get so do you work? Like how do you market for your business, then like, what are you doing to get out there and get people to come to Rumble Fish?

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So what we’ve been doing the past couple years is I’ve been in paid high ticket groups, I pay yearly, some of them are five figures, like I’m, I’m joining. I’m in masterminds coaching programs, I’m meeting other people that don’t offer our service and partnering with them. That has been the main way that we have grown our company. That is a little scary, because I don’t want to only refer, like rely on referrals. Sure. But I’d say for the average company, you rely on referrals of your customers, okay. Okay, well, now, I’m like creating these strategic partnerships. One of our core values is our in Rebel for relationships matter. So you can only like join groups, if you really care about people, you want to really help them like giving to them, because people will know if you’re just in that group to take right like, and that just doesn’t work. So that has really made a huge difference the past couple of years. But as I was analyzing the numbers this past week, I’m like, oh, I need to work on our, our online funnels a little better, because it’s like just too much referrals than what I like, and I want. We get lots of traffic from blogs and all of that, but oh, I, I do want to dial in those funnels. So I’ve been interviewing email marketing companies, okay, because I’m like, I want you to analyze what we’re doing and like, tweak my free offers my emails call to action, right? Because I want the cold email, or in like paid advertising just to be really dialed in a lot better. Okay, that’s I’ve been working on.

Unknown Speaker  8:54  

I love it. And so when people you do meet, okay, let me ask this then. So if I’m out at a networking event, and you know, I’m a big believer, my mom always told me, you know, two ears one mouth for a reason, you know, like, I’m listening. And that’s when I go to networking events. I am more interested, I think you are too, of hearing their story than I am about telling mine. Right. So like, if I’m listening to them, what kind of phrases keywords or whatnot, might they be saying to me, that would make them a great referral? Or a prospect or introduction to Rumble Fish?

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Yes, I’m the best would be someone that is like an agency. They have three or five people on their team. They’re probably contractors. They’re providing like they’re doing Google ads, or they’re doing website graphic design for businesses. But the problem is you can do do Google ads. And I think anyone who’s doing ads or Facebook ads should also be doing local SEO At the same time, if you have a beautiful website, or graphic design is beautiful on the site, but you’re not getting traffic to go there. And someone just spent all this money to build a beautiful website, you need the right traffic. So it’s like these partnerships. It’s like a marriage. It’s like, perfect, because when we dig into the business and are creating a content strategy and getting them on Google and getting this traffic, I’m proving to them what they invested to get, you know, 510 $20,000 website, I’m proving them that it works. Yes. And if you’re only relying on ads, like I mean, Facebook, was it last year, it shut down for a day. So all those people that were relying on ads, and that’s how they make money. Well, they lost. I know, people that lost a lot of money that day.

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$7,000 myself, totally, you know, goes, Yeah, that’s crazy. So when you’re maybe in a discovery period with a company that wants to come to you, right, what would you say? Is some of your secret sauce, if you don’t mind sharing, that maybe helps them find their blind spot of why they’re not getting the customers that they’re that they’re looking for.

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It’s that word everyone likes to hear, let me audit your business. Okay, I’m kidding. No, no, no. Let me tell you what you’re doing wrong. But this is I mean, people, I offer this for free. It’s, if you go to our websites, 100 bucks, nine $7 for it, but I offer this for free on podcasts, or for these paid groups sign in, where we’ll do it for free for 30 minutes on my team does some research, and then we do a 30 minute call or record it. And it’s all pure value, this is what you’re doing wrong. So you have to have some thick skin. And this is what’s doing wrong. And this is how to fix it and what you should be doing instead. So those calls, man, we started doing those. Think about? I mean, we always did internally, us as a team before we brought on a client because we want to know, can we rank them? Can we deliver what we’re promising? Well, that we always do a couple hours of research before. But what I found is that people, they were curious, they need to learn some basics about SEO, because it’s confusing. And so I don’t think you should hire any company unless you know a little bit about what’s going on. Or else you’re gonna make the wrong decision to hire the wrong person, because you’re gonna believe what they say. And a lot of people do lie like they don’t. They say they’ll do something, but they don’t deliver on it. And I hate that in our industry. So I was like, let’s be transparent. I’ll show you exactly. Go on my screen, show you all the things. This your web developer, or whoever fixes your SEO that you’re using, and give them a checklist and show them what to do so that they can get more traffic,

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and probably 90% of them are like, I don’t even have that. And that’s where you can kind of come in and help them level up. Right. I love it. So totally, maybe while you’re in that discovery conversation, Liz, is there any good question that you wish they would ask you but never do?

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Oh, that’s a good one. I think in the discovery, they always come in with their thought of what they should do. Like yesterday, we have someone scheduled call, because everyone thinks we’re a social media company or social media. So we were on a call yesterday. And they’re like, I want you to do social media, they come with this idea of what they think they should be doing. Because they saw someone else is doing it. I wish that they came in on that call and said, you know, what do you think I should do? Like, right? You’re the consultant says, coming in and telling us what we should do. And then we have to say, No, I don’t agree with that. And then it’s kind of like, you’re, they have an ego like they they’re so excited. And they’re like, why won’t you just so we tell people No, frequently, but I wish that they would just come in and ask us why they’re coming to us for consulting. Yeah. What our advice? Yeah. And I know other companies, like, say, you should give them what they want. What does it sell them? What they need? Yeah. What does that quote? I don’t know, that versus the one

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right in your 100%. Right? Because, you know, the smartest man in the room is some of the higher someone smarter than that period. And that’s where I really help level up. And, you know, I speak on that a lot, you know, basically delegating in a sense where, you know, people come to rebel fish, you’re technically working for them, but you have to trust that process, as well. Because you know, that’s what you do in squad you really, really have to, that’s 100% So, then what do you feel then maybe, you know, the you guys kind of take the Stephen Covey approach, when you start working with people have like, begin with the end in mind. Is that what you’re seeing? Is that something that you might ask To say, where do you see your company five years down the road? And then how you services can be implemented into that.

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We don’t do that big of a vision. I wish we did. Okay, okay. Yes. Have you heard of strengths finder? I’m sure. Yeah, absolutely. It’s finder. So focus is my number one strength and focus people we can only see like one year into the future, or a quarter, kind of smaller. Like husband, he’s so relational. But we were really looking at the next three months, the next year. For our company, of course, we do vision planning, and it is hard to do a 10 year vision and do that. We

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thank you for saying that. Because I was I was trying to trip you up. Yeah, because some of you that does that is full of shit. Excuse my language. They just are okay. And you know, I built I’m big believer, inch by inch, it’s a cinch by the yard. It’s hard. So if you’re breaking it down into that, like divisions change in three to six months sometimes, especially if rebel fish is getting people coming in your door. Right? And then you’re gonna have to grow to fake you. Thank you for being transparent, honest. Hey,

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good. To be tripped up.

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No, no, it’s put me in my place. So let me ask you something. Have you seen the movie? Cuz you went through a lot of experience? So did you grow up in Albuquerque then?

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So I grew up so in Texas originally. Okay, and then move to Idaho, and then to New Mexico. Okay, yeah. Okay, they moved to New Mexico. So I’m the oldest, okay, are girls and I’m a homeschooler. Let’s think a little differently.

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Right. Okay, you laterally think it that? That’s fantastic. So if you’ve seen the movie Back to the Future, yes. Okay. Let’s get in that DeLorean with Marty McFly. Okay, let’s go back to maybe the 22 year old lives. I don’t know what your last name was then. But the 22 year old list Jones. Louis Jones. Let’s go back to the Joneses. Louis Jones,

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all the stereotypes are true.

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What kind of knowledge nuggets? That’s we call here time sensitive, what kind of knowledge nuggets might you drop on the double Deuce a 22 year old lives that didn’t change anything cuz your life’s great. But to maybe help her level up, shorten that learning curve, maybe just a little bit quicker.

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So when I was 22, that’s about the time that I was moving out to San Diego. That’s my first time, you know, graduating college going out on my own. And I that was when I was learning about how to go online. I came out here and things are not going my way. I was not making the money that I thought and expenses are way higher in San Diego than Albuquerque. Okay, and I hired a coach for $25,000 Around that time. Okay. I know out I still had student loans. And my husband I were talking about this yesterday. And just remembering back then. And he’s like, yeah, that was my biggest regret to tell you like yeah, you should, you should sign up for that. Like, he sounds legit. He sounds true. You’re making 100,000 from that you should do it but I didn’t I put I that was like to hiring someone to advanced I didn’t have the extra money. I could barely pay the monthly fee that because I got a loan from them. That was another red flag. But I could barely pay that monthly fee to pay off that $25,000 And so then I didn’t have the extra money to implement the strategies he was telling me to do. Okay, so I think that’s going back I wish that I would have hired an agency and paid them that money. Like instead of hiring a coach and I’m all for coaching I love learning that’s why I sign up for stuff I love courses I love coaching I’m like easiest person to sell whatever you have to do because I’m like I want you want to level off everyone I want to learn it all. But when launching a business like yeah people like in this case it he was too advanced. So I think it’s a lot better to if you can’t hire an agency to do some work like you told a friend I was like, you know go from part time to full time work. You’re a PA you can make 15 She makes 15,000 a month on Zoom calls. I mean it’s a boring job what she does on Zoom calls but I was like what that 15,000 You can hire this is like hire this person and make your free Offer Funnel hire this person over here. I was like don’t hire us. We’re not in your budget but hired these people that I know. And then but just work work your job like you can’t for the next six months regulations are changing so she only has six months to make as much income I was like do the instead. And so that was what I wish I would have guys that same advice. Like, you know, have a coach like someone that’s more like a little bit more advanced than where I was. So I was making hardly any money with my business was personal training so it’s like I wasn’t even covering all my monthly expenses. Okay, but I could have done like a hybrid like a coach but also some done for you. I think I love that

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advice for the have the agency because the agency would it did a lot of it that the coach told you to do, but you couldn’t afford to because you paid the coach I love love, love that advice. So, Liz, how do you want your dash remember that little line in between your incarnation date your expiration date your life dating that they hopefully it’s a bazillion years down the road? But how do you want your dash remember this?

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i I want to be remembered that just I helped like this local businesses thrive. I really am passionate about other couples working together. Because like I, I mean, small businesses have been attacked the past two years like crazy. It is just so sad how many people have been closed down. And I don’t think it’s gonna get any easier for small businesses. And I just I want more couples to work together more families to work together because they can have more time. Like, my husband and I we’ve both lost our moms. He lost his six years ago. I lost mine. It’ll be almost two years ago. Yeah, man. Yeah. years next month. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. And because we work together, we could take that time to grieve. My sister. My younger sister is a doctor. She was given three days, three days for bereavement. Wow, she, yeah, I’m like, that’s not enough time. And so I just know, growing up as Jones, you can ignore all the things and you’re just working and hustling all the time. But I think it’s so important. Mental health is really important. We have a lot of mental illness in our family. And I’m just like pro like, take that time. And so whether you have a baby or someone dies or you’re taking care of someone that sick, right then if you work with your spouse or family member to pick up their their rock, and I love that that’s what I want. I want to see more people and like Thrive not argue TV shows do, right. They’re all arguing they paint a terrible picture of what it’s like to work with your family. And that’s not right. Accurate.

Unknown Speaker  22:30  

Right. And, you know, thank you for saying about the mental health. You know, I you thank you for donating also to the suicide life Prevention Hotline when you were you asked to come on the show. It’s huge. I have a little brother killed himself. I just had my best friend I served with hung himself on Father’s Day. So I get in it sucks. And it was a lot of it because the family dynamic wasn’t in place. And I really really appreciate you saying that. So then what do you think people might misunderstand the most about lis?

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misunderstand, huh? Oh, I’ve never been asked this question. It’s like a

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question. Time to shine today, baby.

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Oh, man, we are going deep. I’d say. I think they’d misunderstand how sensitive I am. So I look strong. I was a D when athletes. I coached gymnastics. And like I think a lot of people see your confidence how you shine on camera, how you show up your presence when you walk into a room. But they don’t see how like sensitive people can be like, so I’m definitely sensitive. So like words, reviews, reputation, like that is really important to me. And when something doesn’t go right. Or, like, someone makes fun of you joking on the mic. I’m like, oh, that like her. And I’m like, Oh, man. So I say that because I look strong. And I look very confident. But I struggle with anxiety. Okay, I mean, I, I am sensitive to what people say. And like, I think that is me. Everyone’s like that. But I think I’m a little

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love that you’re transparent about that. Just like your company. You’re being transparent. That’s what we’d love to hear that time to shine today. So the pull the best out of people and thank you. Thank you. Thank you so much for being honest. So then what if anything keeps you up at night?

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Let’s keeps me up at night. Well, if I have alcohol that keeps me up at night, so we try to do no, we’re doing no alcohol for 90 days. I’m taking a break. Right now over the summer. But yeah, that keeps you up at night. I just I really love learning. I love learning. Stress doesn’t stress or anxiety doesn’t keep me up at

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v1 athletes a lot of times just to learn yeah Uh,

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yeah stress and so that’s what I really have been working on. I have a counselor that’s one on one like to work with the grief with my mom and then we have a couples counselor because we work together so for six and seven years we’ve had a couples counselor just to work through all the things that happen with having a dual relationship but what I’ve been really working on lately is just fear and anxiety like that’s the same thing fear and anxiety and for so many years I would say I’m fearless unstoppable all of that an athlete but it’s been there and so I’m not as conscious of that frame xiety And so that’s what I’ve been really working on again to you that yeah, I don’t want to acknowledge it’s there but man it’s there a lot I love it

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that you’re not like an imposter with it though you know? I mean, I believe that I’m a big believer in you know people say fake it to make I believe in faith it till you make it like because faith will cut that fear right I’m not saying you have to go religious faith you know I don’t go that way with with my pockets I’m a Christian but I don’t you know, push that out there but it I’m a huge believer in faith in it to you making it and I love that your transparency there so time to shine a podcast versus why we are back with Liz Cortez from Cortez wood that is with an asp by the way spot from rebel fish and Liz, you and I will meet up one day we’ll have a fun discussion and we’ll probably spend 1520 minutes and each one of these questions that I asked you but you got five seconds with no explanation. So you say it we move on to the next one. We got a buzzer here I’m kidding. But five seconds with no explanation is ready to level up. Ready? Let’s do this. Let’s do it. Let us what is the best leveling up leveling up advice you’ve ever received.

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It was to not start an agency and go work for one.

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Love it. Share one of your personal habits that contributes to success.

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Turning off all notifications on your phone. You have a long,

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beautiful so you see me walking down the street you’re like man, Fergie looks like he’s in his doldrums a little bit like what book might you hand me to level me up?

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You’re in your what would you say?

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I’m in my doldrums. I’m not feeling it today. Oh, you’re not

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filling it? Oh longer than five seconds.

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You’re fine. I know a book at you. I hope you hear me it’s called the goat. It’s called the Go Giver by Bob Berg and because everything you’ve talked about is part of it.

Unknown Speaker  27:31  

Okay. I’ll give I need to read that one. Yeah, I read so many science books. Ah, gotcha. And a little cool. I

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couldn’t Gotcha. Okay, next question. What is your most commonly used emoji when you tax? The high fives love it. Nicknames growing up.

Unknown Speaker  27:50  

Lizzy the lizard love it love it. So

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chess checkers or monopoly

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chess.

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Wow, awesome. Go to ice cream flavor

Unknown Speaker  28:06  

well, it needs to be vegan. Cuz I have a dairy allergy. So dairy free. caramel chocolate chip.

Unknown Speaker  28:14  

Yeah, sounds good. There’s a sandwich called Lizzy the lizard looks on that sandwich.

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What I had last night for dinner, gluten free bread and some pastrami and some turkey salami, lettuce, tomato.

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Love it. Love it. favorite charity and organization like to give your time or money to

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who we give a lot to different ones. But the recent one, we support sub missionaries in an undisclosed location. Thank you for doing that. We bought some sheep for them so they can give birth to more sheep. Yay. Out there community.

Unknown Speaker  28:57  

Awesome. And last question, what is the best decade of music 60s 70s 80s or 90s?

Unknown Speaker  29:07  

The 90s

Unknown Speaker  29:08  

All right, very cool. I love the 90s I graduated 1990s. Late 80s is my jam. But you know 50 years old now. So but

Unknown Speaker  29:16  

that’s one of the answers. Yes. I wasn’t I was a homeschool Christian kid growing up we weren’t allowed to listen to. So I learned all that 90 stuff and like

Unknown Speaker  29:28  

beautiful, great decade. Fantastic. That’s why I cut it often because everything after the 90s they’re using hooks from the 80s and 90s. Like you listen to songs. Now a lot of them are using like Pitbull, he uses all the hooks from like, the 80s and 90s. So in his music and all the movies, they’re all remake. Yes, yes. So let’s How can we find you my friend?

Unknown Speaker  29:48  

So the best way to find us is to go to rubble, fish local.com. Okay, that’s the best place and earlier I mentioned, if you have a local business or you want to understand it back Google and Yelp stuff, you can sign up since you listen to this podcast this whole entire time, you can sign up at rebel fish local.com/audit. Okay, well I charge 100 bucks for that audit, but it will be no charge of you, as my gift for listening to

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the show so much, we’ll put that down, make sure that makes it into the top of the show notes. Because if you didn’t listen this long, then it’s on us squad out there. So as a squad we have had a fun fun conversation kind of a free masterclass here from my good friend, Liz, on how to grow your business. So if you’re a local business, or she also handles nationwide, that if you want customers within five minutes or 10 minutes of your physical location, get with me to make a warm introduction to Liz to to help grow your business, you know, 80% of the people out there business out there have not claimed their Yelp profile. So do that now, you know, and also, if you’re an online marketer, you know, you can hide your address on Google and Yelp services and area business metals can still help you level up as well. You know, the core values at Rumble Fish is relation relationships matter. And that’s where I love it, that they are more interested in your story and how they can help you then telling you there’s you know, it’s like, they will help they’ll they’ll do a deep dive into your business. Okay, they will dig into your marketing strategies and whatnot, see how you can help and again, if you go to rebel fish, local slash.com/audit Then you’ll get a free audit as well courtesy of my awesome friend Liz here, you know, and if you’re doing ads, you should be also be doing local SEO as well. She reminded us so they again, there’s so many things that go into this and the smarter man in the room, hire someone smarter than that’s what you want to do with Rumble Fish, you know, she’s a very they’re very focused there and it comes from her Deewan and her gymnastics and whatnot. You have to live really in the present moment and be focused and they’re a big believer in a slow grow inch by inch, it’s a cinch by the yard. It’s hard so you’re because your vision changes as you go along. And she kind of I kind of picked up like from one of her friends who was out there that you know, she said start a business on the side while you’re working it and that’s something that I was told work your day job, but mind your own business, build that business that’s going to give you that freedom. You know she’s passionate to help people thrive she’s especially building power couples in this day and age and helping families thrive. She’s going to someone that’s going to slide across home plate at the end of her life, you know, bumped and bruised but knowing that she planted trees she’s probably never going to sit in the shade up because of how much of a Go Giver she is. She levels up her house she levels up her wealth. She’s under a varsity squad letter here at time to shine today. Thank you so much for coming. I’d absolutely love your guts and I can’t wait to collaborate with you in the future.

Unknown Speaker  32:43  

Thanks squad for listening. And thanks, Scott for having me on.

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