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Unknown Speaker  0:00  

Hey this is Leslie Rasmussen author of After Happily Ever After. And if you really want to learn how to level up your life you should be listening to the time to shine today podcast with my good friends Scott Ferguson

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time to shine today pockets varsity squad This is Scott Ferguson wood episode 244 It’s a little bit different with me interviewing my really good friend Lesley the author of after happily ever after she has such a resume such a passion as a screenwriter on popular sitcoms and she has a couple books that are just will rock your world and help you really see different angles to different situations. There’s lessons in our book and knowledge nuggets as we call them that it’s just amazing and I selfishly love this as I’m an aspiring author and man I just picked up so many knowledge nuggets from my really good friend Leslie. So without further ado, break out your notebooks especially if you’re an aspiring author as well. Because here comes my really good friend Leslie Renison author of after happily ever after. Let’s level up time to shine today podcast firstly squat This is Scott Ferguson and Maggie Dolan is 45 and isn’t dealing with getting older very well. 17 years ago she gave up her job in publishing to raise her daughter Jia, but now her only child is about to leave for college and Maggie isn’t sure what her new purpose will be. That’s from the back flap of from happily from after happily ever after. That is written by my really good friend Lesley Ram. Ram Rasmussen I’m not gonna say it again. We’re just gonna call her Lesley because it’s a tongue twister for me. And her book got a four out of five and a clarion reading which is pretty kick ass out there folks. Lesley graduated from UCLA and went on to write television comedies for many years. And then those comedies were actors a Gerald Mcrainey Burt Reynolds, Roseanne Barr nor McDonald Drew Carey, Ralph Macchio, the Karate Kid and as well as the Thornberrys and Sweet Valley High. Most recently Lesley is also written personal essays for Huffington Post, Maria Shriver and she knows Lesley lives in you see our Los Angeles who attended UCLA go Bruins with her husband and two sons and Leslie, thank you so much for coming on. Welcome to the time to shine today.

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So much for having me on.

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So very welcome yourself to the squad. The first what’s your favorite color? And why?

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My favorite color is navy blue, not just blue, but navy blue. Why is that? You know, I used to think it was because it was Palm and it was the ocean. And so I looked it up one day. And it said that it represents coming in and out of one stage and into another and facing the unknown ahead. And that to me was so exactly me. I feel like I have gone through so many stages, and they so many things unknown in my life. And so I don’t know, I don’t know why but I loved that color for years.

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I thought it was because I served seven years in the Navy. Just bring it I love it.

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I know it’s a Navy. I know.

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I love it. I love it. So you have a magnificent life. my really good friend mag nostre that lives here close. Yes, yeah, South Florida. I mean, I read a chapter for Burke Buck every day. Butterflies and bliss because it’s broken down and she knows it. And and I love mag love love lover. Yeah. So let’s get to the origins of you. You know, you’ve done a lot of stuff here you’ve written for some big names. You’re an author of a book, which by the way level giveaway, so you have to listen to the end. So, so let’s get from maybe a little bit of origins and like work your way up to where you’re at now.

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Okay, well, basically, I like you said, I graduated UCLA. And when I get out got out, I went to work at what was MTM Studios, which is very Tullamore. It used to be. And while I was there, I watched a lot of writers and I just kept thinking that the Newhart Show was there at the time. And I kept watching them and thinking I could do this, which is crazy. But I did think that. So I started writing. And I met a woman who was on a show called Major Dad at the time, and she was great. Yep, exactly Gerald McRaney. And she sent my stuff to her agent. And she got me my first script on the show. And so went from there. So I did sitcoms for a while. But then I got married, and I had children. And once that happened, it was just too hard. The hours are crazy. So it was just too hard to stay doing that. So I stopped and I have my kids. And then when my youngest went to kindergarten, I changed careers. Because I didn’t believe and I couldn’t get back in the business at that point. So I became a nutritionist, and I got a master’s in nutrition. And I did that and I opened my own business. So I did that for 10 years. And during that time, I kept writing. I loved the writing and I was writing a lot of essays, personal essays, nutrition essays, and a lot of them went on Huffington Post and the other places that you mentioned. And then after what came about 10 years, my son was going into high school and he was busy. And I realized I want to write, I don’t want to do the other anymore. So I closed my business. And I started writing the novel. And at first, I thought the novel was going to be nonfiction. Because I viewed a whole bunch of women, I was at the stage of my life. And then I realized, you know what, I love writing fiction. I love writing dialogue, and all that kind of stuff. So that’s kind of where I ended up. And that’s where I am today. Having done that,

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you was this? Probably maybe 86 to 90 timeframe with new heart and coming into major dad.

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Yes. Okay. I was I got married in 89. So yes, it was right around there. Got

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it. Because when you said Mary Tyler Moore, I’m like, not look old. If you’re watching squat on YouTube or whatnot. Beautiful woman doesn’t look old enough to be back in merely time. But that remember Newhart Show? Which was the cabin and all that other stuff? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And gentlemen, crania had the pleasure of meeting him because in the Navy, I was at the Universal Studios. And we were like, they’re saying, Hey, if you go watch this game show, then you can go watch a taping of Major Dad and also marry that so I was there. It was so cool. I was like, Oh, my gosh, got to go back.

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There was my episode, but I know which episode was it? Oh, my gosh, honestly. I’ve written so many things since then. I don’t even remember which one that was. That’s terrible that back and look,

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what was the thing that went off in your head? Leslie, that said, You know what, I know your son that time constraints or school and whatnot. But what was it? You alluded to a little bit? What was it me to click this? I’m going to write I’m going to get back in front of my computer. And it’s kind of a business parable, if I’m not mistaken. Correct. Okay. Yeah. So what was it? What clicked

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to write the novel you’re talking about? You know, what, every time I wrote a personal essay, and they went on Huffington Post, I got so many amazing comments about my writing, and just how much people related to me. And so I thought, you know, I have something to say, especially for women who gave up a job that they loved, and then ended up, you know, raising their kids, which I do not regret. But trying to get back in. And I had talked to so many women during this time, I have tons of mom friends, and a lot of them were going through the exact same thing thinking, Oh, my kid doesn’t really need me every day, what am I going to do? And I just missed the writing. I love writing, I’ve written my whole life. Even before I knew I wanted to be a writer I was writing. I think I just really wanted to get back to it. And I also was a nutritionist during the recession, which was not easy. And then coming out of the recession was fine. But it still was something that wasn’t my true passion, even though I enjoy nutrition.

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I love it. I love the transparency there. So like I’m writing my first business parable like Meg, our good friend, Meg is like really pushing me on that. Oh, good. So like, I’m using living writer and it’s working for me, I love it, you know, the little software platform and stuff. But what is your first advice to somebody that really has a passion for writing and wants to get their message out there?

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I think well, first of all, sit down and do it. Second of all, you can you can contact Huffington Post, and you can see if you can start getting essays on Huffington Post, or all the there’s so many sites out there, there are really literally so many slides on everybody’s looking for content. And if you feel like you have something to say, I truly believe you do. You know, you know that there’s an audience out there for what you want to say. So I just would say sit down, write anything, put it away, come back to it. Don’t just throw it in a drawer, and just keep looking at it. And you’ll be surprised there were many times I wrote a scene in the book, and I thought, Oh, this is awful. And I’d go to bed and I’d get up in the morning and think, oh my gosh, Elvis got up in the middle of the night and rewrote this because this isn’t that bad. Yeah. So you know, you just don’t know you’re too close to it to know. Hey, about

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writer’s block. Sure you’ve had it? You know, what, what is maybe some antidotes or what was your protocol when you ran into

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it? Um, for me writer’s block is usually ideas, bigger ideas, not necessarily like what to do in the next scene. And so what usually happens at least I’m writing a second book right now. So after when I was writing the first book, I thought, I’ll never come up with any other idea. I’m not an idea. So I finished the book, and I was doing other things. And an idea just came to me. And I think for me, especially like if I’m in going to a scene and I’m not sure what to do, I don’t sit down at the computer. I usually will go do something else. And my brain starts to work on it. And then what I do is I just take a pad of paper and I just write, and I just write whatever like I think should be in the scene. It doesn’t matter if it works. It doesn’t matter if it’s in order. I’ll just start writing Oh, sure, throw up on that piece of paper. Right, exactly. And I’m like, what, what, where can I place this? That’s kind of funny are kind of different. Yeah, I’ll just do it that way. And then I’ll sit down at the computer and go, Okay, I have something here. But I think getting away from writing, if you just sitting there trying to figure it out, it won’t work to leave. And sometimes sleep is the best thing.

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Yeah. Yeah, it opens up that delta wave basically, you get into can open up the creative side and wake up. I’ve ever since I was 12 years old, this is the thing I woke up when I was 12 years old, be 50 here pretty soon, but I woke up at 12 years old, and I hit a song in my head that I still believe it’d be a hit to this day. Right? Right. If I didn’t write it down. You didn’t know. That was 12. So it didn’t make sense. And I just remember watching something on TV saying write your stuff down. So I keep a pad of paper, I kept a pad of paper. Now I keep my phone open. I just wake up and I’ll put stuff in. But sometimes mornings, I’ll wake up you’re like, This is stupid. But sometimes like why exactly.

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Sometimes you don’t even remember? Anything? What did I write? And then you have to start remembering where that goes. Like I do that all the time. And then I look at and think was that for this chapter. I don’t even know what it was for. But sometimes it’s great. Because you get I write down a whole conversation. I wake up in the middle the night on my phone, same thing.

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Love it. So what what do you think most writers that are out there, their blind spots are?

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Their blind spots? Um, I think sometimes, actually, they think their writing isn’t good. So they put it away. And I think a lot of times, it’s way better, because people are so judgmental of them their own stuff. Sure. So I think if they gave it to somebody else, and said, Look, tell me the honest truth if they found somebody that would really tell them the truth. Sure. Um, so I think that’s one thing I think the other blind spot is. I think writing is very solitary. You’re alone. You’re in a room. Yeah. So I think that people need to reach out to people. I think it can be a very lonely thing. And with the publisher, and this is how I met Meg was through my publisher. You find people that are so like you and it doesn’t matter. Meg’s writing a memoir, I wrote fiction, it doesn’t matter. But you can come together with people, even though Meg and I are across the country from each other. So close to her. But can I get her this year?

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Right? So you feel like you’ve known her forever? Right?

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I do. I feel like I’ve known her forever community.

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Absolutely. So me this is um, this is I love this conversation right now. Because it’s like you and I probably would never have met if it wasn’t for COVID and Meg and stuff like that. I get the privilege of meeting people like yourself, but what script in a movie resonates closest to something you would have written?

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script in a movie, it would be a rom com. Okay. And I’m trying to think which one? Oh, that’s a tough question. Because I like

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movies, because I read just the the sample part of after happily ever after. And I slowly see kind of like a, the sassiness sauciness of When Harry Met Sally a little bit, a little bit like a good example

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of saying that’s it. I see a little

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bit more heartbreak in my book. Yes, yes, absolutely. Because there’s things with the elderly parents, so there’s a little bit more, but it’s also comedy. Yeah. So it would be one of those things that sort of a comedy with some drama.

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Not a dark comedy, but like you said, maybe drama, right? Maybe something like they call it more

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comedy than drama. But yes. Okay. I’m in the book. So you know, yes, exactly.

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Do you ever help writers?

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Oh, all the time? Yes.

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Let me ask you this. When you’re in a discovery period, maybe you just first meeting them? Is there any? Is there any good question that you wish they would ask you, but never do?

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Oh, um, let’s see. Maybe just like what’s, what’s the message that you want to get across? So they if they’re gonna read my stuff they know. And that’s what I would ask them to is, before I read anything of theirs is what’s the message? What are you trying to say? So you make sure if you are reading another writer, you know that they’re saying that, you know, because sometimes people think they’re saying it, but then they throw in something that kind of actually goes against what they’re trying to say. And so I think that would probably be something that I would want to be asked is what what is the important thing that and what do you want to get out of this book? Like what what do you want your audience to get out?

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Is it fair to say that Your message in writing that your message is kind of like your why. Yeah. Okay. Very cool. I’m learning this is like a free masterclass for me. Okay, so I’m selfishly loving this. So have you seen the movie Back to the Future? Oh, yeah. Okay, let’s get that glory with Marty McFly. Let’s go back to the 22 year old Leslie, what kind of knowledge nuggets as we call here time to shine today? What kind of knowledge nuggets are you dropping on the 22 year old Lesley to maybe help her level up, shorten your learning curve and Blasto maybe just a little quicker,

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I probably would tell her a couple of things. One is, I would say don’t worry, you will get back whatever you’re doing now how much you love it. Even if you think it’s going to go away, it will come back even if it comes back in another way. Another, you know, idea. And I would tell her 22 year old Leslie was really really really confident and really knew what she wanted and where she’s going, which is interesting. I graduated. And I just knew I didn’t know exactly that I wanted to be a writer. But I knew I wanted to be in the business. That was something I knew from a very young age, I used to sneak into Universal Studios long before 911 You could see through a bank. And I used to sneak in and walk around and pretend I was important. And I just knew the lats were very important to me just being there. So I would tell her to just keep going and keep pursuing exactly what you’re doing. And 22 year old Leslie was also at the time, women were not easily brought in, I would originally want to be a regular producer on the line producer. And there were a few women but there weren’t a lot. And I was shocked over by men who entered the business over and over again. And I think that’s why I started writing too because I was getting frustrated. And I thought I there’s got to be a place for women and as a writer, right, but it still wasn’t as much as it did eventually become. So I would just say keep on going don’t get frustrated, even if somebody else who happens to be male jumps over

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you. Wow. That’s That’s fantastic. So that’s true to resonating with that right now.

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So it’s very true.

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How do you want Leslie’s dash? Remember, you know that little line in between your incarnation date and your expiration date? Your life date and death date on your tombstone? How do you want Destiny statue?

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I wanted to say, Mom, wife, and best selling author.

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Okay. I love it. I love it. It’s fantastic. Four out of five and clearings, you know writing an indie book myself like this. It’s like that’s a really good rating where you go.

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That was the very first review like that that came in. And I was awesome. Like when you put a book out there, you’re so vulnerable, and you have no idea that anything even like it. So it’s your baby. And you’re wondering if they’re going to tell you it’s ugly. So to get that review first was like so much a relief.

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What keeps you up at night?

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Oh, my second book usually

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come back to something with your writing. That’s so

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yeah, I mean, my kids are 24 and 22. And they’re doing really well. One is in the business. And one is just graduated college and you know, looking for a job as a UI designer, which I’m learning all about. And so they’re doing really well. And my husband’s doing well. So I think it honestly would be just get through I’m so close to ending the second book. And so I think it’s just like, okay, figure it out. And even though I know the ending is just doing the last couple chapters

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of it. So what do you think people misunderstand the most about those? Misunderstand from what misunderstand the most about Lesley? Oh, about me.

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I would say sometimes they think that I have everything together. And when I say oh my gosh, I’m falling apart. They’re surprised and I’m like, Yeah, I’m very organized. I have things together. But I’m a human being. Yeah, I fall apart and I get nervous and everything else.

Unknown Speaker  19:13  

Wow. So you are vulnerable. You are very vulnerable. Yes. You something that how do you bring yourself back from that? When you’re feeling vulnerable?

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I’m usually my husband does I mean he’s just go to him and tell him and he usually he’ll bring me back at him or my friends. I’ll just put it out there and just say, Look, I’m having a tough time and I’ll get especially Meg. She will send me something to cheer me up and make me feel better. And I’ll read it and I’ll think, okay, you know what, my problems are this big right now. You know, when feeling vulnerable.

Unknown Speaker  19:49  

Wow. That’s amazing. And you’re so transparent. It’s so refreshing, especially for somebody that’s been in the business. I love that. I love it. So, Leslie, let’s Out of this equation, let’s take out our cell phone or tablets or computers. Let’s cancel those out. What are three things Lesley can’t live about?

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Well, my kids, my husband, my dogs, okay?

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Hello, dad on your family,

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my friends. Okay. I can’t live without my friends. Um, I don’t think I can live without my writing right now. I mean, maybe someday I’ll like sort of put it away. But right now, it’s really important to me. That, and honestly, just being a good person to other people. You know, I realized that if you treat other people, well, they treat you what really well. It’s really a give and take. Sure. And that, to me is the most important thing. I mean, I’ve always been a nice person, but just putting myself out there and letting people in in the same way. It’s been something I don’t think I can live without the pandemic.

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Yeah, absolutely. And what your what you’ve did is in have accomplished, I mean, not just let’s take out the whole jumping men jumping over you equation, but rejection? What’s your advice to people? You know, this is kind of a cliche question. But like, what’s your advice to people that are facing rejection? And pretty much anything you like? Because you are at the epitome of rejection? In that world? Right? I mean, we can agree on that. So what is that called? Lack of us terminus, secret sauce that you’ve used to handle rejection? Well, I’ve

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handled a lot of rejection. Because when I was really young, I mean, not really young. I shouldn’t say that. When I was after 18 to 21, I was acting. And that was a major regional. I was young enough where it’s like, okay, nobody likes me, I’m done. So I did it for a little while. And I think that’s when I realized, I’m not cut out for this, you know, that felt like a personal rejection. Sure. And then with my writing and putting stuff out there, that also is definitely a rejection. Right? I, I would say, just, if you really love something, obviously, I didn’t really love the acting, because I would have stayed with it and said, Okay, rejection. If you really love something, just keep going. Because the chances are, even if you get rejection, I mean, I was rejected by so many agents in this book, and his books won awards. So you have to know that whatever you do is not for everybody, but also those people have 1000s of other things they’re getting or whatever it is that you’re being rejected for. It’s not a personal thing. I mean, these people didn’t know me, when they rejected me. It was just, I didn’t give them whatever they want it. But at some point, I will. And I think that’s really what it comes down to at some point, whatever you’re doing, you will find that person who says, Oh, my gosh, that’s exactly what I’ve been looking for.

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You said you said it was one of your first points, you said, you know, there are outlets and there is an audience pretty much for everything. And you’re so transparent. You’re You’re so on point, and honest. That’s awesome. And that’s refreshing. So what is Leslie’s definition of a life well lived.

Unknown Speaker  23:22  

I think for me, it would be finally saying, You know what, I’m happy with where I am? Because I’m always sort of not quite there. And I’m always like, Well, what about this one? Or what about that? Maybe the next book or I think that’s would be my life? Well lived as if I could say you know what? I’m happy with where I am today. I’m getting there, but I’m not still not quite there.

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Love it. In a time to shine today podcast. Firstly, squad. We’re back with my really good friend Leslie Rasmussen unveiled at that time. And author just a rock star has written for some really big names, check them out in the show notes. But we’re going to take Lesley through our leveling up lightning round and Leslie, you and I could speak for 1520 an hour on each one of these questions. You have five seconds, no explanations. You’re ready. Okay, they can all be answered. So let’s do this. What is the best leveling up advice Leslie’s ever received?

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Comparison is the thief of joy

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is comparison is the thief I’m breaking my own rule because I blew my mind. Alright, so share one of your personal habits that contributes to success.

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Determination and being very organized.

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Yes, yes. So other than your own website, Leslie Ram rasmussen.com and time to shine today.com my shameless plug What website do you like to go to to level up?

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Ooh, I usually just put an inspirational quotes And then legs website.

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There you go. Love it. So, you see me I’m walking down the street and Fergie just doesn’t look like he’s in his doldrums a little bit. What book? Could you hand me?

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Oh, um, I would probably hand you

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know, I’ve read so many books lately to this. I figured you’re a writer.

Unknown Speaker  25:26  

I know. Um, you know what I would hand you i I hate to say it, but I would hand you Meg’s second book, which is?

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Yes. Love it. Love it. Love it sitting on my fiance’s nightstand right now. She reads and we read a chapter over butterflies in bliss everyday. I love it. Love it.

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I would make somebody feel better. Yes.

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What’s your most commonly used emoji when you text? Kiss? Love it. That’s cool. chess or checkers? Oh checkers. Me too. Just

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created chess.

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Who has had and quickly on this one first thing comes to your head who’s had the most profound impact on your life? My father, love it. Love it. Any favorite charity and organization like to give your time or money to?

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Yes, I just gave money to the American brain foundation.

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As I’ll break my rules on this. Is there a reason that you really,

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because in my book, what the father goes through has something to do with them. And so I did a lot of research with them. And I am they are the they do Lewy body dementia, which is the Robin Williams Foundation, and his wife is part of it. And I just really love them. And also anything to do with dogs I give to the shelter. Girl like the two things I give to the mother

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love it. Last question you can expand on this one. What is the best definition? Or what is the best decade of music 6070s 80s or

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90s 80s?

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Go big hair. Don’t care. I love it. I love it. I love it.

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I just love the 80s Although I listened to the 70s in the 60s in the 90s. But I like

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you to me too. So let’s see how can we find you?

Unknown Speaker  27:05  

Well, I’m on Instagram at Leslie, our author. I’m on Facebook at after happily ever after novel. I’m on Twitter at Leslie, our author. And did I say them all? Oh and my website, a rasmussen.com

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love it and love it. So Leslie, leave this if you Oh, you don’t hold on a second squad. I just totally got ahead of myself. We are I’m going to do a giveaway for after happily ever after I’m going to purchase the book I’m going in Megan’s going to personally sign it and mail it to you. Just oh sorry. Sorry about that. Leslie’s going to sign it after Meg does, I’m kidding. Because he’s gonna sign it and mail it off to you. She’s so gracious to take care of the postage. And for anybody that says ever after in the post, you must put it in the post and Pinterest, Facebook, LinkedIn where it is for some person that puts ever after in the post. Then you will get a free autographed copy of after happily ever after by my good friend, Lesley. And you have a second book coming out?

Unknown Speaker  28:19  

I do and what’s that? That is about two women from various very different backgrounds. They’re both in their 30s and they both end up meeting in a support group for it’s the same tragedy that they’re going through and it’s how they go through it in different ways. I

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love it. I love it. Let me see so I’m just without giving away too much. Is there a nice tidy ending to these? Or does it leave you

Unknown Speaker  28:43  

um, the after happily ever after does not have a tidy ending? I wanted to end it incredibly realistically. Okay. And but it’s it’s very hopeful. It’s just not tidy. Okay, forget the new book from what I haven’t ended it yet. But from what I can tell it will wrap up in a good way.

Unknown Speaker  29:02  

Good. Can’t wait. Can’t wait to read both of them. Now. I just bought it the Kindle first anyway, so. So let’s do me a favor and leave us with one last Knowledge Nugget you like us to take with us internalize and take action.

Unknown Speaker  29:17  

I would just say be your best self. Be the person that you really want to be. Don’t worry about what other people think. You know what it is that you want to do and just keep moving forward.

Unknown Speaker  29:29  

Love it. And squat. You know, I was kind of I wasn’t worried. I was really stoked for this conversation of how I was going to have the questions because a lot of the people that I interview are either coaches or your consultants and whatnot. But it was so awesome to get straight from the lovely lady Leslie background in kind of some of the sacrifices that she had to make to become who she is today and she wants you to remember that there are outlets out there. You know to believe in yourself, build your community and like we like to say get your asking gear in ask for help when you need it. She always kept her confidence, you know, but she also knew that she was going to face rejection and how she handled it. She always remembered that she’s doing what she loves. You know, she wants you to be happy with yourself and that’s being authentic. And then that’s exactly what Leslie is and she blew me away with Comparison is the thief of joy. I’ve heard it before but the way she said it was amazing. It really resonated with this conversation. I hope it did with you as well. And she also is just gonna say Be yourself. Best self get out there get after life and level up. That’s exactly what my beautiful friend Leslie does. She levels up her health levels up her wealth. She’s humble yet hungry. Thank you so much for coming on.

Unknown Speaker  30:49  

This was so wonderful. Thank

Unknown Speaker  30:50  

you. Awesome. I will talk to you soon. Love your guts. Bye.

Unknown Speaker  30:53  

You too. Bye. Bye.

Unknown Speaker  30:55  

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