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Hey, this is Joel Goldberg with Joel Goldberg media and if you really want to learn how to level up your life, you should be listening to the time to shine today podcast with my good friend Scott Ferguson.

0:11  

Time to shine today. versie squatted is Scott Ferguson and we are at Episode 158. And I have been waiting for this episode to drop on my producer said, Hey, we’re ready to rock with Joe Goldberg.

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I was like, Yes, it’s

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awesome. I’ve listened to the show, like three or four times, just because the knowledge nuggets that Joel drops are. It’s just amazing. He is the commentator for my second favorite team and Major League Baseball behind the Detroit Tigers, the Kansas City Royals. I always say my two favorite players in the world are George Brett and Gary Carter. So I mean, it’s so awesome that he’s around that organization that went kind of from cellar dwellers to winning the World Series five years ago or so. And in 2015, I believe in in Joel it carved out time between like after a doubleheader to kind of come on and in tell us about what he sees in players and what he sees and how they handle failure and how they trust the process. And it’s just such a treat. I mean, you have to break out your notebooks. You have to shut off everything else and listen to what Joe is about to share because I tried to stump him on a few things, but he ran right through me with just answers that blew my mind and I have pages, pages of notes. So I’m going to shut up I’ve been talking way too long. But here it comes my really good friend Joel Goldberg with Joel Goldberg media. Let’s level up. Time to shine today Barsky squatted is Scott Ferguson and I am a Detroit Tiger fan. But I have something to admit to everybody in my close friends know this guy’s I grew up playing travel ball with the Kansas City George Brett is my all time favorite player him and Gary Carter my two favorite players ever. And I got to be mentored by George This is back in 8687 Lillard you’re after he got he won the championship in 85. saber Hagen the rest of the squad out there. But, gentlemen that you’re seeing if you’re watching here is Joel Goldberg. From the Joel Goldberg experience with Joel Goldberg media. He’s the pre and post game commentator for the Kansas City Royals, my second favorite team, the whole wide world. So I loved it since my Tigers can ever bring it home in 2015. And they almost got it done in 14 October 2015. They they got it done. And that was a lot of fun to watch. And Joel has spent more than a quarter century working in television broadcasting, most recently serving as the pre and post game show hosts for the Kansas City Royals, which I just mentioned. He also speaks to corporations and associations about championship culture and leadership and hosts multiple podcasts time and the similarities to successful sports and business teams. And I love that because we are the varsity squad here Joel is going to earn his varsity letter here. He has also has a book in the works, which we’re going to talk about which I think he said it’s going to drop at the end of 2020. And so Joel, welcome to the Welcome to the squat. I’m going to have you come on and introduce yourself. But first, what’s your favorite color? And why?

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I should say blue since I have so much blue in my arsenal because of Royals. I guess it’s blue. But yeah, I’ll go blue. That’s

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fine. That’s cool. Awesome, man. So let’s get to a little bit of origins because I believe you’re a Midwestern guy like myself, correct.

3:32  

I am with some East Coast roots originally. So my family grew up out east outside of Philadelphia in New Jersey. My parents were both born and raised North Jersey. And we moved to Chicago. You were referencing those years. We moved to Chicago in 1985. Okay, and so we’re talking, what’s the math there? 35 years ago. So I mean, I’ve spent the bulk of my life I was 13 back then and 48. So 35 and 48 years in the Midwest. So I consider myself a Midwestern right. And so, you know, high school Chicago, went to school at the University of Wisconsin Madison, that will be my other favorite color red, badger red. And, and yeah, and worked in the Midwest forever.

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Gotcha. So you’re probably there between years at 90 and 94. In in Wisconsin.

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90 to 94 for school, and then I worked another four years in the state with my first two television jobs. So I spent eight years in the state of Wisconsin, which is kind of like a second home to me. Yeah. I love it. I

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love it. Really good friend of mine, Lee Krieger played ball from 89 to 93. At University Wisconsin, they won the the Rose Bowl in his senior year Rose Bowl.

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That would have been his senior year. Yeah. Yeah. It was awesome. That was that mean? That means that he and I graduated the same year? Yes.

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Yes. Awesome. Awesome. So let’s get into like you have the the broadcasting experience, Joel, let’s get into becoming a keynoter. You know, starting to write a book and Tell us a little bit about the Joe Goldberg, Joel Goldberg experience.

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It was completely accidental Scott, I’d love to say that it was this master plan. But I think that I was a guy that grew up wanting to do exactly what I’m doing now in terms of broadcasting, although I would say, you know, growing up, really in the 80s, you didn’t dream of being the pre and post game show host there really wasn’t such a thing on TV back then. I just knew, I really what I dreamed of being was, you know, the, the anchor on the newscast to do the sports or maybe a play by play guy or something like this. And so I did get into my dream. But the thing is, is when you’re living your dream, you don’t really think about a whole lot else. I think that’s one of the few pitfalls of actually realizing your dream is you become very satisfied. So for about 22 years, as a broadcaster, I was very happy with what I was doing. And when I wasn’t happy, it was just what’s the next step? What’s the next job in broadcasting? How can I keep climbing the ladder. But when I got to Kansas City in 2008, I went from being a comfortable, salaried employee, to being freelance. And that was a good thing, because it essentially meant that I was going to get a year’s worth of work and salary, condense it into the six months of the baseball season, do every single game. And then you got this other six months to go do what you want. Well, I went searching for other sports to do, and some college hockey and some college basketball and things like that. But what I came to understand was that I had other talents. And I’ve always spoken to groups. It’s part of being a broadcaster, hey, come out and speak to the Rotary Club. And so I always sort of thought that was part of just community relations, community outreach. Hey, here’s what’s going on with the baseball team. Thanks for having me. And a couple friends said to me, You should start a business. And I didn’t know I had no clue what a bit What do you mean a business? Okay, you start a speaking business. That’s a thing. I just thought to be a speaker, you had to be Tony Robbins. And we could all be so lucky. Right? But Right, right. Understand that this was an avenue. And so suddenly, I found myself creating a business and having a network and, and leverage not just the connections I had in sports, but the lessons learned in sports and the access I have not just to the Royals, but suddenly you’re rubbing elbows with the Yankees or the Red Sox or the Tigers of the Cubs or the White Sox or whoever it is, and understanding that to have access to guys like a Joe Maddon or to have access to, you know, you mentioned the Tigers to a to a Kirk Gibson or right now Ron Gardenhire or whoever it is, yeah, that I was talking to these people every single day. And now it became more of a purpose and an opportunity to share those lessons with groups.

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I love that and you’re in a, in a game, which I played for many, many years. that failure is imminent, I mean, going to happen. So what do you see from these top guys that you’ve hung out with? Like Kirk Gibson’s dad, by the way, was my seventh grade teacher, you know, letter from Michigan? Yeah, cuz I’m from Michigan. So yeah, that’s it. That’s funny. You brought up Kurt. But what do you see that they use techniques that they use to kind of level up and push to failure? Because I mean, you you’re interviewing guys to go 344, but then have weeks of going 145 many days, and sometimes Oh, four. So what what do you see? was their secret sauce really to kind of break through failure?

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Well, I think there’s a few things. One, it’s very rare that you see a young guy that can handle that failure, every now and then, every now and then you just have a guy that’s wired that that way. Sure. More times than not the ones that handle failure best are the veterans that have been around. And what I see and there’s not a secret sauce, you know, this, Scott? Sure. But some of the common themes that you see are one routine. Because when you can trust your routine and understand that what you do to prepare every single day is correct, then you don’t panic and start searching for new answers. That doesn’t mean that something isn’t wrong with your swing. Something isn’t wrong with your pitching mechanics. What it means is that you can focus specifically on that when you can trust everything else that you’re doing is right. This is when I go to the weight room. This is the way I eat. This is when I arrived, this is what and so the best guys I’ve been around and I’ll name drop the best will be Albert pools. Sure, just regimented every single day with this is the routine. I worked in St. Louis before Kansas City. So I was with pools from 2001 to 2007. In Kansas City, Alex Gordon is the longest tenured player. He’s the only guy that is still there. That was there when I got there. And oh, wait. I’ve never seen a guy that is so people in the media say, Well, he’s in a non pandemic year, he’s impossible to get for an interview. He’s not impossible to get you have to understand when there’s a small window because his day and his time management is so so specific and so detailed. You know that from a military background, you understand it from the best have leaders is that they have structure to what they do. I’ll share this one last story with you sir. In terms of dealing with failure. We have a guy on the Royals named hunter Dozier. You know the more diehard baseball fans might know that name certainly people in the American League central Tiger fans or whoever would know that name. Former first round draft pick really kind of came into his own in 2019. And and he’s a good middle of the lineup hitter right fielder wasn’t their basement anyway. I said to him last year, he was struggling. And I said, How do you deal with that failure. And he said, you know, it’s not easy, especially in April, when if you have a bad APR, that’s the only numbers you have you have a bad June or July, you as a player know that you’re in a slump. But the numbers may not show that on the jumbotron says you have an A bad APR. And you step into the batter’s box, and you look up to the biggest television screen in the world, the jumbotron, or whatever it is, and it shows you and tells you in the whole world how bad you are. And that’s what you’re looking at beyond the picture. He said, so I, I do this. He said at the end of every game, I have a spreadsheet on my computer, I go to my locker, and I enter in what I did for that day, not how many hits, because as you mentioned, to be successful, what three out of five times three out of six times, right?

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You’re really good, really good, that’s Hall of Fame.

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Three out of 10 times means you’re failing 70% of the time, and you’re really good. So you have to be able to understand that. Sure. So what happens when you’re successful, only 20% of the time, there’s such a there, it’s such a game of it can be a game of luck. So he goes back, and it’s not entering two out of four hits, it’s giving himself credit for a hit every time he hits the ball hard. Every time he sees a certain amount of pitches. Every time he makes a productive out and advances a runner to do something for the team. And he and he holds himself to a standard of 50% 500. He said if I’m if I’m at that point, that I am going to trust that I’m doing things the right way, and I’m not going to panic, and I’m going to live with this failure. Now, if I’m below that, then maybe I need to reevaluate some things. So the the ultimate answer to me here is having a process. I was just wondering, does your does Yes. And trusting that we hear all the time trust the process? Absolutely. That process instead of hitting the panic button,

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right, right. That’s fantastic. Is there is that process involved? Like bill, great ball coach, Bill Walsh, you say the squirrel take care of itself, the process and we say here at time to shine today that people I speak to and we coach is inch by inch it’s a cinch by the yard and start everyone’s trying to break off. We too much more weathers that inch by inch. That thank you for sharing that story. Do you find that? Because baseball, a majority of them are Latinos or they come from the Dominican and Puerto Rico and whatnot? Do you find that they handle failure a little bit better? Just because their upbringing how much they already had to go through to get here?

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Yes and no. Okay. Because here, here’s what I Here’s what I mean by that. I still think that all of us are wired differently. Okay. And so I’ve seen plenty of Dominican players that are just struggling and are really I mean, we got the best player to be a hands down best athlete on the Royals and the best athlete that I’ve had in my 13 years is Alberto mondesi role model sees kid Yes. And and on any given day he could on any given day, he can be a top five player in baseball, sir. And and as we’re recording I mean power, speed, switch hitter, shortstop Gold Glove caliber defense dynamic, I mean, off the charts. And I don’t know what’s going on this year as of this recording. But he just something’s not right. He just looks lost at the plate. I don’t know if it’s, if there’s anything personal COVID related. He had shoulder surgery, major shoulder surgery last year, maybe there’s 10 of it. I don’t know what it is. But the point is, is that I’ve seen all kinds of guys struggle. But to your point, I do think that oftentimes there is a mindset from guys like that, that said, Hey, I’m going to do whatever, I can’t get off the island. And I am going to change the course of history for my family. And by the way, not everybody comes from the Dominican or Puerto Rico event as well for right return but a lot of them you hear the stories Oh, you know, I mean, hey, this guy grew up with a you know, with a successful with a father who was an executive at that, but certainly when you hear the stories of kids growing up and you know, using a broom or bottle caps or whatever it is just to be creative. There is a certain level of, of resolve from kids that are coming out of the Dominican and I think a different not just a different culturally but a different perspective on life. I do think that that is a part of it. I don’t think that it is the end all be all in terms of Okay, I was

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just curious as somebody that’s around it on a daily basis. You think To the really no fans in the stands is getting into people’s flow a little bit where they’re used to having that, and the energy that flows through it. I mean, but baseball, I played a pretty decently high level, but wrestling was my thing. And it was like I used to feed on the the fans in the stands when I get on the mat and do my thing. So I just couldn’t imagine going and wrestling somebody without hearing anything. How do you how do you think these highest level in the world baseball players are handling that?

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I think this one’s across the board too. And, and so for some, you know how sometimes you hear Scott, certain athletes that will say, I don’t even notice the crowd? And I don’t look, some of them are be asking you on that. Right. But others of them, they get this they get in that? You know what we say in sports the zone, right there in the zone, the notice anything? Yeah. You know, it’s like, they just are into this trance, and they transform once they’re out there. There’s, in general, I believe that you can’t, you can’t flip a switch in sports and say Today’s the day we start winning, right, but I think you can flip a switch in terms of personality. So for instance, my broadcast partner on our pre and post game show, Jeff Montgomery 300 for career saves for the Kansas City Royals, so one of the nicest human beings you could ever meet. I’ve worked with him. He’s been my partner for 10 years. I’ve seen him get upset twice in 10 years. And it was I don’t want to say it was ugly, but it was like a different human being. Now I wasn’t around when he pitched but it made me realize that he must have had this crazy switch that he flipped when he got on the mound. Oh, yeah. And here’s a dude that could be out in the bullpen beyond the bullpen. I’ve heard all the stories, washing his car in the middle of the game. Why? gM? Tom wants Hey, what? There’s a game going on? Yeah. Why are you washing your car? Because it’s dirty? What do you do this when it needs washing? Okay, guess what? He’ll be ready when he needs to be ready. Mm hmm. But I think there are also a lot of players that feed off of the adrenaline of a crowd. I think that there are a lot of players that that thrive under the lights, so to speak. Sure, and you can’t create that this year. And so that’s a whole nother level of fortitude of inner inner fortitude, whatever you want to call it, of digging down deep. Some of the best leaders that I’ve talked to in terms of baseball this year, on teams, they are trying to create the energy in the in the dugout, because there’s nothing else right, you know, and it’s the weirdest thing, man, because I’ll be sitting upstairs in one of the luxury suites now, which would usually be to entertain clients, but they made a studio for me in there. And suddenly, you know, for a home game, we’re doing road games from home to the Royals will have a big play or a big moment. And I hear this clapping. And I’m looking around, I’m like, where is it coming from? And I look, it’s coming from the dugout, I hear it. Right? Right. So I think for guys that can block all that out there are affected. But I really do believe that that without the crowd like this feels I know to a lot of players, minus the big stadiums and the big lights and all that and the upper decks. This feels like rookie ball or

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to say that like back in high school playing ball. You know, that’s, that’s fine. Thank you for taking the time to talk about that. So what do you think then jewel makes you know, a great leader.

18:31  

Oh, gosh, there’s so many so many levels to this. But I think more than, than anything, the two words to me that come up one is, is being curious and listening and to holding yourself to a higher standard of being accountable. And so I think that’s it. And of course, I don’t mean to simplify it, not because neither neither of those are, are easy skills. But the best leaders I’ve been around, want to hear what everyone else has to say, yeah, ultimately, they’re going to make the decision, but they’re going to do so I remember one of my early years here, the general manager of the Royals, Dayton Moore, who’s still their general manager asked me about a player like me, I never played either. But it was the guy that had that I had been within St. Louis. And you know, he was looking into him and he trusted me enough to know, I wasn’t going to suddenly the Royals were looking at. He said, Hey, what do you think about this guy? And I remember that was the first time he’d ever asked me something like that. I remember thinking they got a million scouts and connections and all that. Why is he asked me and I came to learn, he asks as many people as he can, sure, because he’s not making his decision just based on what he has. He’s making it processing all of it. Loving is a listener. He is curious. So that’s the one thing but then the other side of it is okay, you make that decision as that leader you’ve taken in all that information, right? But now, who’s the one making the decision and who’s the one that’s responsible for it? Love you as the leader accountable. So I say I say it this way. There’s no IMT. We’ve always heard that. But there is an eye and accountability and the eye and accountability means I got this. Sure not. Hey, look at what I did. But when it goes wrong, Hey, I’ll take the fall for it.

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I love that. That’s fantastic. That’s fantastic. So you’re all We’re the same age. So let’s get in our DeLorean with Marty McFly. Let’s go back to the 20 to 23 year old Joel Goldberg. What kind of knowledge nuggets are you dropping on? Joel with the experience that you

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have now? I’m passionate about this one. Because this is what I say. When I graduated from high school class of 90 in class a 90. I’m class

20:47  

90, sir. Yeah, we just had a very.

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Okay, yeah, a 1994. College. No one taught us this stuff. Sure. No one taught us you know, I learned all the skills of how to do an interview. I don’t think I was very good at it. At that point. I learned how to set up a camera, how to set up lights, how to, you know all that types of how to write. But no one ever taught you how to build relationships. So what I would tell the 23 year old me is that everything that you do. And by the way, this isn’t just true for broadcasting. This is true in every profession. Everything you do is about people. Yes. And how does it become about people by building those relationships? And so what they never taught me and as I found my way into Major League club houses, I never knew how to build those relationships. I just was putting these guys on pedestals one of my favorite stories. My first ever baseball interview was with Mark grace. You remember Mark Gracie? Yeah, stars first baseman for the cubs. And and I wasn’t covering baseball on a regular basis. At that point. I was back in Madison, my second TV job. And I don’t remember why. But they sent us to Milwaukee. To county stadium. I think it was still at the time. I don’t think Miller Park was around yet. I don’t think and I don’t know why we were there. But I had to do some stuff for the news. And I needed I needed a sound bite. And I was scared. I never interviewed a baseball player before. And so I walked up to mark race because he’s supposed to be the nicest, coolest guy. And I walked up to him and I said, Hey, Mark, my name is Joel Goldberg. I’m from the NBC TV station in Madison. Do you have a moment? Oh, no. I said, Can I grab you real quick. And he looks at me stares me in the eye and he goes, you don’t touch me. And I’m freaking out like oh, my God, this is not going well. My broadcasting career is going to end. And he looks at me. And he goes, I felt like you waited for a minute. It was probably three seconds ago. I’m just messing with the kid. What do you need? And I think about that story all the time. He didn’t say messing either. I don’t know what the language requirements are on the show. A little bit. Yeah, no, he goes, I’m just talking with the kid. Okay, and just want to make sure you know, and I understood at the time, he was just messing with me what I didn’t understand until later was he let me off the hook. So how many of us in whatever business we’re in, go for coffee for a first time with someone and hand them a contract and say here, let’s do this business. Right? Right. You build the relationship. So there are plenty of players that will let you off the hook. But you know what? They’re going to give me some simple sound bites. How do I get the best answers? How come nowadays do people say man, these players really look like they have a good time with you. These players really give you great answers. Is it because of a great question asker I hope I’m a decent at that. But more so I spent more time building the relationship, building the trust, getting to know them on a human level. Sure. And I’ll just wrap up this answer with this. And I won’t even give you the whole story. It took me seven years to crack through Albert pools. So Albert pools didn’t give me the mark grace treatment. Sure every now and then he might say yes. But But I was able to turn the page with him in my seventh and final year with him to the point where To this day, if I call him and say hey, can you help me out? They’ll do it. Sure. Anything that you need. But it took and I asked him this at the end, Scott. A couple years ago, I said, Hey, I gotta confess you used to scare the living daylights out of me. He got embarrassed. And he said, You know what? Everyone wants something from me. And once I trust you, I’ll do anything for you. No one ever taught me how to build the relationships in the trust.

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Love that. When you go back and tell him I hopefully would listen, I’m sure he would. Hey, Mark, let’s let’s talk about your dash, man. I want to know how you want your dash. Remember that little line in between your incarnation date and your expiration date? How do you want Joel Goldberg’s dash remember?

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You know,

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I haven’t thought about this a ton. But I’ve thought about a little bit more recently just in I think with the pivot that I’ve made with this speaking because, you know, I think all the time that it’d be easy to say hey, I want to be remembered as a great broadcaster. And and I understand the power of what we do. And I’ll put this in military terms for you For this reason. For years. I would have people say to me, oh, man, you know, how tough is, how tough is your job? The Royals are in last place. Man, I feel bad for you like, they pay me to talk about baseball everyday. Come on, like, it’s not that bad. But here’s what started happening, Scott. As social media evolved, I would start to hear from servicemen and women overseas. Hey, watch the game last night of the American Forces Network. It was so good to watch that game was amazing. We mean, it was amazing. We lost 13 to nothing. And there was a three hour rain delay. They didn’t care, they just wanted a piece of home. And so what I came to understand was that we have an impact, and the potential to help people’s lives every single day, right. And so someone’s sitting in a hospital bed, they don’t give a shit about what the score was, yes, they want their team to win. What they really want to do is stop thinking about how poorly they feel, or they’re overseas, in Iraq or Kuwait. And they’re saying, Man, I miss my family. And guys have told me this before, I was just happy to see traffic on the interstate behind the stadium. Sure, they gave me a piece of home. And and so I think that, from that standpoint, and the speaking standpoint, and now the platform I have within the community and you know, charitable work, and all that is I want to be known not as the former broadcaster, I want to be known as the guy that that leveraged the exposure that I had in baseball to make an impact in people’s lives. That’s

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awesome. You say that because my mom passed away. And from stage four, brain cancer, but her best times the day was they’re not together anymore. But watching Mario and rod, the tiger announcers, right? They had the falling out. But that’s not to say, but watch Mario and rod in just listening to them. You know what I’m saying? It was like that took her away for a minute, and gave her that a really good feeling. I appreciate you saying that. So, Joel, what are three things you can’t live without?

27:04  

Okay, um, and I’m sorry about your mom too. But you also and I’ll think about you and her and this, it’s a reminder to me every day that that that 130 second hit on TV could put a smile on someone’s face, or make them think a little bit. And, and and remember real quick, because I know we’re wrapping up too. But I got to go you mentioned Bret Saberhagen and George Brett, I got to go on a USO tour to Kuwait two years ago on September 11. The only games I’ve ever missed except for one for a funeral. So those two Bret Saberhagen, George Brett, Mike Sweeney, and Reggie Sanders and me, broadcasting a Royals White Sox game, from a uso building in Kuwait, 50 miles from the Iraqi border with 200 servicemen and women from three to six in the morning. It changed it changed my life. Three things I can’t live without. I can’t live without my phone. I should, I would do so much better. Get rid of that. I guess I could live without my computer and my iPad because I can just work off of the phone. So the one will be the phone. Two I think would be my Spotify subscription. I listen to a lot. Okay, God and I, you know, and I can get your podcasts and all that stuff on there too. But, but I think that that would be the The second thing. I’d love to get away with my music and I think the third thing would be my family and that really shouldn’t be the third obviously that’s the first but

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usually I asked that Joel with saying let’s remove all electronics out of everything and say it but you know, that would have been the first thing obviously after the after the electronics. Like you said we are winding things down we still got a few more minutes I want to get through our lightning round with your level up like you and I could talk to 1520 minutes and each one of these but I need you five seconds answering all of them can be answered in five seconds. You’re ready guy pressure. Yeah, no explanation just answered. Let’s level up here. What’s the best leveling up advice you’ve ever received?

29:03  

It’s always about the people

29:05  

love that share one of your personal habits that contributes to your success.

29:13  

Um,

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personal habits.

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I would say this is more of a trait though always being always being optimistic and positive, beautiful. Not the book that you’re writing not the flavor of the month. But if I’m in my doldrums you’d like Fergie here. read this book. What is it?

29:39  

Oh,

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let’s go. Okay. The solid baseball by Joe posnanski. About about Buck O’Neil and it’s a life changing, upbeat optimistic perspective book.

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Beautiful. What a Physically not not mentally wisdom Lee, what age if you could stay for the rest of your life and still have the wisdom that you’re learning and continue to learn? What age physically would you stay for the rest of your life?

30:16  

You know, what if I if I could, if I could just get myself in a little better shape, which does take more at our age right now, I like this age right now. I’d like to sit right

30:25  

around that 45 to 48 give me 32 all day though. Anyways, what? What’s our What’s your favorite charity you’d like to give your time and or money to?

30:38  

There are a lot but I will say I’m just going to go general on this one because there are a bunch of baller anything for underprivileged kids, anything from military.

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Love it. Thank you for saying that. Last question. It’s a little bit tougher. But what’s the best decade of music 6070s 80s

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or 90s 80s?

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A big hair don’t care. little metal bands. All the crew the cure. I love it. I love it. Joel, how can we find your brother

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on websites Joel Goldberg media.com Twitter, Goldberg, Casey, Instagram, Joel Goldberg, Casey, and connect with me on LinkedIn

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loving ain’t squad you know what Joel’s definitely earned his varsity letter today, man, all his links will be in the show notes below, you know, he’s going to tell you that the best of the best have structure in what they do and they don’t deviate from it unless they find that chink in the armor that’s going to tell them to deviate, but they stick with their solid routines. They trust their process. You’re a great leader. He also says that he’s curious and also a great listener. You will hold himself to a high level of accountability and you know you know Joel talked about even the general manager of the Royals came to him and asked him you know, that’s a sign of a great leaders to ask different and get different outside opinions like we say here at time to shine today and basically but you are the leader he said there is an eye and accountability so the buck stops with him he’s gonna have a lot of level of input. That’s fantastic. Joel shared that with us. And he’s gonna remind us finally that everything you do during the service of people that love what you do, and love what you do and the people must love what you do as well. So we’d like to say and Joel, you’re fantastic you level up your healthy level up your wealth, your humble yet you’re hungry. Thank you so much for coming on the show, brother. much appreciate you.

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We’re gonna have to reciprocate and have you online. Scott. Thanks so much, Matt. Wait,

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thank you for saying that. Can’t wait. Have a great day. Hey, thanks so much for listening to this episode of time to shine today podcast. Proudly brought to you by Southern Nugent real estate real estate excellence who can be reached at 561-249-7266 and online at www dot Sutter and nugent.com. If you’re a business owner or professional who would like to be interviewed on time to shine today, please visit time to shine today.com slash guest. If you liked this episode, please subscribe on Apple podcasts, Google podcasts, Stitcher, Spotify, I Heart Radio or wherever you get your podcast. There’s a link in the show notes to our website. Also there you will see a recommended resources. We hope that you will support our show by supporting them. If you like what you’ve been listening to, it’d be great if you could just give us a five star rating and tell your friends how to subscribe while you’re at it. I’m your host, Scott Ferguson. And until next time, let’s level up it’s our time to shine.

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