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L. Scott Ferguson: [00:00:00] Time To Shine Today, podcast varsity squad. This is Scott Ferguson, and I am super stoked to bring you my interview with Lieutenant Colonel Jason Pike. Jason is

a guy that actually rolled through life kind of being told that he was never good enough, and now he’s a best selling author. He is… Somebody that I immensely respect and other people immensely respect. He’s a great speaker orator. And again, a best line author is a book that I have a book giveaway at the end.

So make sure you stick around for that. The knowledge nuggets he drops are absolutely. Fantastic along with a certain story about feces. So you have to dig in for that. And again, at the end, I do have a book giveaway. So without further ado, here’s my really good friend, author, just a kick ass human being, Lieutenant Jason G Pike.

Let’s level up.

Time to shine today. Podcast Varsity Squad. This is Scott Ferguson. , I have a soft spot because of serving in the military. I get to bring on an actual legit war hero [00:01:00] who is in the past few months has became a pretty good friend of mine, man. He reached out to me when I wasn’t feeling that great.

He’s just a legit guy. The only day this year that we probably won’t be friends is December 9th and that’s the army Navy game. But I brought on my really good friend here, decorated combat. Veteran Lieutenant Colonel retired Jason Pike, who served 31 years in the U. S. Army, including nine years overseas in five countries.

Total badass here. Jason earned over 30 service awards and badges and his diversity of army jobs, assignments, and schools from age 17 to 48 sets his military memoir up differently than most. With a straightforward account of one man’s journey, he inspires audiences. nationwide and shows how to be resilient and to persevere, persevere, no matter what disadvantages and life struggles may happen.

I love his kind of quote on his homepage. His mission in life is to help others persevere and find strength to face adversity, fear, and hope. And it goes on a little bit longer than that, but in the show notes, you’ll be, you’ll see a fantastic [00:02:00] website all about Jason. Also, I will be doing a book giveaway because he’s the author of a soldier against all odds, a memoir by.

Lieutenant Colonel Jason G. Pike, but wait till the end because I do have that book giveaway. Jason, thank you so much for coming on. Please introduce yourself. Time to shine today. Podcast Varsity Squad, but first, what’s your favorite color and why?

Lt. Col. Ret. Jason Pike: Oh, my favorite color is orange because it stands for Clemson University and I love it.

L. Scott Ferguson: We were talking off mic a little bit about Dabo and how I’ve been blessed to be able to learn from Dabo and actually speak with him. That that’s, that’s absolutely awesome. And I love Clemson every time they beat Bama. It just makes my heart sing, sing so loud. I’m I’m from Michigan, so I’m like a Sparty fan, which they don’t really make it to the dance too much, but like Clemson, man, they had a heartbreak.

I believe the first game of the season. Yeah,

Lt. Col. Ret. Jason Pike: they’re sure to turn it around, man. Yeah,

L. Scott Ferguson: their leadership’s in place. So, hey, man, let’s, let’s go back a little bit, man. You, you, you were very transparent to me off the mic about maybe education took you a minute to get [00:03:00] through there. Let’s get from the roots, man.

And kind of start there if you don’t mind and just work our

Lt. Col. Ret. Jason Pike: way up. Yeah, I’m honored to be on your show, Scott. But yeah, I failed the first grade. I was identified with learning problems. I mean, this ain’t just rumor, this was actual certified, bona fide people telling me, this guy ain’t got much to, he ain’t got much to offer there.

Reading and writing are my worst subjects. I failed first grade English and I struggled in life with English. Oh, by the way, I’m a national best selling author, but that’s a different point. We can go a little bit different, but no. Well, in the very beginning, it was, there was not a lot of expectations from my parents and they had legitimate reasons because the school counselors, the educators were saying, , Jason, he, he, he doesn’t have his stuff together pretty

L. Scott Ferguson: much.

Yeah. So with the naysayers back then, man, like what, what seeds did they plant? Because, , a lot of parents tell their kids, no, [00:04:00] like 135, 000 times by the time they’re 13. So they have it planned into the negative, negative, negative. So. How did you use that, that naysaying, that negative, eventually to your

Lt. Col. Ret. Jason Pike: advantage?

Yeah, for the for the most part, I believed it. In other words, when you fail the first grade and they identify that you have problems and it’s verified you don’t have a whole lot of exp. I just, I just thought that I might be a manual labor for the rest of my life or someone who be doing minimum wage jobs.

That’s, that’s kind of how my expectations were all the way up to age 17 before I joined the military. So that was just what I thought was going to happen once. Yeah. I joined the military in 1980, well, I, 1982, 83, I went to boot camp and I went through all kind of hell, at least it was for me. I felt that I could do a little bit better.

I, I, it wasn’t, my plan wasn’t organized, but I knew I could do better in life just because I hit some rock bottom areas in the basic training [00:05:00] and I did some things that I thought I could never do in life. Yeah. Wow.

L. Scott Ferguson: So let’s back it up. So you went, did you go to like ROTC basic training or was it the actual Army crew, Mustang over?

How did you do this?

Lt. Col. Ret. Jason Pike: Yeah, I must stained over. Everything was from the bottom. I started as a private. It was also not in the regular army. I was in the Nash nasty girls. Well, we call that the nest, the national guard, the army national guard. So. So the South Carolina Army National Guard, we’re not rocket scientists, , but I joined and I went with them for about four years before I transferred into Clemson University as ROTC.

But, , being identified as a problem learner and I almost got kicked out of Army basic train, I nearly did. They sent me to a criminal correctional facility. This does not happen and this does not happen, but it happened to me and another soldier, but they sent us to this criminal correctional facility to get ourselves [00:06:00] straightened up to get our ass, , it’s kind of like that old scared straight program where you and teenagers.

Yeah, so I went in and we went in there and it was a different level of hell. First of all, basic training was basically that was like full metal jacket on steroids that it was like this, that situation and what he had a drug deal with criminal correctional facility to motivate us and get us squared away where we went in there, made big rocks in the small rocks, got our asses kicked, basically, and we come out.

I come out all beaten up and broken up, but the bottom line is once I went through basic training and some very hard times, I could not drink the water coming out of the damn fire hose. I’m considered a slow learner. Some people call it autism. Some people call it dyslexia, but it takes me a little time.

And in the military, they want you to learn things very quickly. And I came out a little bit wired tight, maybe a little bit too tight. And I thought in my 17 year old mind, I could do a lot more than what I was doing.

L. Scott Ferguson: I [00:07:00] love it. And squad, just to give you kind of some insight, like we’re talking about working from the bottom up is, , when you’re a private, that means you’re enlisted and Mustang, , over means that you are enlisted and you move over into the commission where in actuality, if I was to meet Jason uniform, I’d have to salute him, which I’d probably do.

I hate doing it to my army pack Packers, but , no, I’m just kidding. No, it’s like I would. And for him to do what he did. Spot is nothing less than a minor miracle. Maybe to him it was a big miracle because he was doing a lot of, , I’m hearing a lot of failing, but I’m also hearing that you failed forward.

Like you’re wired tight. What was that? Like, man, you come out, you’re man, I’m wired tight, , for, but like, what was that? That was like, dude, I can do this. Like, was it intuition? Was someone say something to you? What was it, Jay?

Lt. Col. Ret. Jason Pike: Well it was that I went through basic training and I went and I got knocked down multiple times saying that you’re going to get kicked out.

I got into a fist fight with another private kicked his ass. [00:08:00] One of the first times I ever kicked anybody’s ass physically. And then I, there was a whole lot of series of things where I just thought. Damn, , and I was, I was supposed to be kicked out. I was, I thought when I went into the criminal correctional facility, they were going to process me out, but I made it.

And I, I just graduated basic training, which a lot of people do. But for me personally, coming from the situation I was, I thought, Wow, I think I can do more. And then I did. And I just, I decided to stay on in the National Guard and go to college and then, and then go into with the ROTC Ranger program, which is another level of just building small steps, small little baby steps.

And what I did is just like, like putting little notches on your belt. Okay, this is just training. Now maybe I’m E2 private or secondary and I And I just walk up the ladder and I look back to where I was and I’m thinking, I’m slow going it, I’m baby stepping it, but I ain’t moving up. And so that’s kind of how I [00:09:00] looked at the process of going forward.

L. Scott Ferguson: Failing forward. That’s beautiful, Jason. Squad, did you hear that? I mean, we talk about a lot of times trying to inch by inch, it’s a cinch, right? By the yard it’s hard or short steps, long vision. That’s what Jason had. Did you see yourself being a career man?

Lt. Col. Ret. Jason Pike: I saw myself being successful. And I thought I could get a degree.

I could invest and get into something. I saw myself as an officer. I didn’t see myself as a career officer. I thought I, those second lieutenants butter bars the, the executive management. I thought I could be one of those guys. , shit falls downhill and I didn’t want to be down at the bottom.

I wanted to be up a little bit more higher. I could look at the, I could look at that pay scale too. Here I am as a private or maybe even possibly a sergeant. Now look at, , look at these management people. They’re making a whole lot more money and they’re A lot less work. And there is a little bit, , if you can’t make, I want to be an officer.

I want to be a leader. And I thought I could go that route because [00:10:00] me dealing with the minor detail stuff. I mean, any of you viewers out there can probably change a light bulb better than me. I might get myself electrocuted. That’s just the way I am. But I could manage, I could manage the people doing the electricity and doing the, , changing the light bulbs.

I could, I could take care of people. I felt that was my strength. I had a good father as a leader and I thought, , and I definitely need people to help me out. And if they can help me out, I can help them out. If you

L. Scott Ferguson: had to look back and look at it from a third party point of view, did people like working

Lt. Col. Ret. Jason Pike: for you?

Oh, yeah, I think most all my commands. I was better as a commander than I was actually doing the network, if any time. So, I mean, you’ll see some reviews. There were, I can’t believe this guy even made it. Well, , if I was down there doing something. Yeah. So, as a commander, as a leader, I was much better.

I was much better because. I could take care of them and they took care of me. And I thought that was just so simple. I mean, leadership is basically you take care, I take care of you. You take, you’re serving them, [00:11:00] but they’re serving you. And it kind of goes both ways. And I thought this is so much easier and better pay.

L. Scott Ferguson: , we didn’t talk about this off Mike, but can you share maybe a story? I’m sure when we get together, we probably can share a little hard target situations that we’ve been in and whatnot, but I don’t talk about that much, but if I know that in your book that you kind of share, can you maybe bring to light maybe a story where maybe a hard target situation where you thought I might meet my maker, but , with the grace of God you didn’t.

Lt. Col. Ret. Jason Pike: Well, I was a lieutenant. I was in South Korea. And with this story, I felt that I was gonna drown in shit. I felt that I was gonna, I mean, we have that term in life where it’s called being neck deep or being and, , but I was literally neck deep at night in a foreign country. Suffocating about the ground in a shit pool, a feces pool.

What it was in South Korea, what they have is they got feces, they line them in [00:12:00] ditches to fertilize the fields, right? And one of our, one of our skills as a soldier is to demonstrate land navigation. day. Land navigation is trying to figure out where your points are on a map and walking through the woods.

Well the ranger shit. That ranger stuff. And I had done this a lot, many, I was a lieutenant. I’d been, this is one of these common basic skills, but well and I knew what to do, but I could, , it was at night, but the thing is, is I had to cross a point. I smelled it on the left hand side of the road.

Shit is slippery. It was at night. We can’t use flashlights. I fell on my ass, went into a ditch. I’m up neck deep. I’m alone. And I thought I was going under. I had a backpack and we have our equipment. We have our load bearing equipment on. So I’m, I’m in my late twenties. I’m going down. I’m going to suffocate.

I never had a family. Don’t have a wife. Don’t have a baby. A lot of things I haven’t done. I’ve only been laid a few times in life. And This is the way I’m gonna go out. , my [00:13:00] last name is Pike, and , even if I make it out, I’m thinking poopin Pike for the rest of my life. That’s gonna be the stories, all the legends and things.

So, I, I catapulted up on top of the shit. crawled out of it barely without sinking down back into it. Once I got out, I was a mob of shit and I had another problem. I wanted to save my face. I wanted to save my embarrassment. And I was a lieutenant. And so I’m still down there at the bottom kind of in the officer world.

And so I needed help. I need to find a way to get back without anybody knowing about it. And so what I did was I rolled around like a dog on the grass stubble to get the bulk of the shit out. Keep in the know, it’s dark at night, very dark out there and then I needed help. We’re not supposed to go talk to the Korean families and the ajummas or the adishis.

We’re not. Yeah. So, but I said, fuck it. I’m going to go do it anyway. I need help. I mean, I’m in an emergency situation. I was also [00:14:00] thinking I might get infected by the feces that have gone throughout my body. And so walked into a farmhouse, knocked on the door.

She comes to the house. She see, well, English and Korean are not perfect. We don’t know the language. It wasn’t neat at this time. It’s an emergency situation. I stripped down naked. I stripped down naked. I give her all my stuff. A lot of hand motioning. Bottom line is she comes and saves me. She gives me my stuff.

I walk back to can’t naked. I get away With that falling into shit and also getting away without anybody knowing about it and she she brings it back now I failed the course but I I got it on a few other tries, but what i’m saying is No matter what phase of life you’re in, you’re always, you’ll always get into some sort of shit, but you just keep on trying and getting your way out of these things.

And I found that these stories just kept on going through life. That, that’s the shit story, but there’s legal stuff stories. There’s girlfriend stories. There’s all kinds of wild, [00:15:00] crazy events. So I just thought I wanted to put that one out for

you.

L. Scott Ferguson: That is amazing because some people will be like, , talking about , you’re taking fire or whatever.

And you, you so transparent, man. And that’s why you resonate so well and why you rock stages and, and people are so tuned into you, man. And that’s beautiful, man. So we’re going to flip it to leadership, man. What do you feel then is somebody that’s working their way up into leadership? Okay. What do you think their biggest blind spot

Lt. Col. Ret. Jason Pike: is?

You know, I was a humble, very humble leader because I came from the bottom. With leadership, there’s another story. There’s something called toxic leadership. People want to take you down off that ladder. People want to knock you down and in military in the military or even I’ve heard about corporations.

Oh, yeah. Where they want to backstab you because they want to get up on that ladder too. It’s competition as you go up. So I made it up from private up to a lieutenant colonel, which would be a [00:16:00] senior manager. But my greatest, I don’t know, my greatest horror, I feel it’s a horror, is the Political backstabbing and the competitiveness that they have to get to a high level.

I just thought, Hey, I’m just a country boy from South Carolina. I’m just going to do my duty and move on like everybody else and get the education. But that’s true. You can do it through hard work and effort, but then you got to watch your back. You got to watch the people that may, may get jealous or they may want to take you out, especially if you’re good.

Yeah. It’d be with rumors. And with me, I had rumors that I was a spy. I was a pedophile. And there’s others I’ve got detailed in my story. Not necessarily because it was not all that was bullshit. But what they’re trying to do is if they’re what you’re walking on some people’s turf. I said things professionally about my job as a senior manager that I thought it was in South Korea again, right?

I told them, I said, , I, I [00:17:00] feel my job and my specialty is better going in this route, not in that route. They didn’t take it well. First thing I was accused of was being a pedophile. That was just a rumor. That was very, that was very hurtful and it was all bullshit. And then later on, within a year, I was a spy.

This was more formal. I was under criminal correctional. I was not, I was under CID, Criminal Investigation Division, and MI, Military Intelligence, on charges that I had been selling secrets off post to foreign nationals, which was also bullshit. And I went through about a year of an, year to two years of investigation on that, which was totally.

So, what, The bottom line is, as you, like you said, when you’re going through leadership, just be careful. I, I, I, I, I, just what I’m saying is be careful on what you say and what you do. And the, but sometimes you might just end up stepping on people’s toes, but you got hindsight 2020. How I could have handled that better is [00:18:00] gone to the chaplain or the inspector general.

Maybe there’s a quality assurance department in there where people can be unbiased and you can tell them your problems that you’re having. Politically inside the organization or in military, and they might be able to help you on that. And get the details if you could, I was too emotional at the time.

These false charges. Understandably. Yeah. And so, but if you can say who, what, when, where and why, who, what, when, where and why of every type of day that’s going on. And I had a series of many, many months that went on, but it was, I got some details, but I was in such a state of anxiety and I was I was crying.

I was holding onto family. I was just, it was just emotional. And and it took me a while to get over that. Still got some issues with it, but I I have processed that out. And that would be I know I’ve been to war. I’ve been to Afghanistan. I’ve been to many different places, but there is something called the enemy within and they say, I would [00:19:00] rather fight the enemy that’s considered the Taliban then actually fight my own people and have the backstabbing.

L. Scott Ferguson: Absolutely, man. Absolutely. And it seems like this country’s at it all the time until we come under duress, like a nine 11 or whatnot. We bonded, , you, we almost need that. I hope it never happens, but that’s where we find our footing. And that’s what I love about America is that we can do that and it sucks and it hurts, but man, when it’s time to dance, we dance and that’s, I love it.

So Jason, have you seen the movie back

Lt. Col. Ret. Jason Pike: to the future? I haven’t let me look today. I’m there’s something called him. One second.

Go ahead. No, I’m sorry. Good. Yeah, we’re

L. Scott Ferguson: good. Yeah. All right. Have you seen the movie back to the future? I sure have. All right. Let’s get that DeLorean with Marty McFly. All right. Let’s go back to the double deuce, the 22 year old, , Jason, all right, what kind of knowledge nuggets might you drop on that Jason?

Not to change anything because your journey is pretty freaking awesome. You wrote a book, , you [00:20:00] did things that people thought you couldn’t do, but to maybe shorten a learning curve, blast through maybe just a little bit quicker.

Lt. Col. Ret. Jason Pike: Submitting I’m I am 22 trying to talk to myself right now.

L. Scott Ferguson: You’re now talking to yourself at 22.

What kind of knowledge nuggets, advice would you drop on him to maybe shorten the learning curve? Again, I don’t want to change anything, dude. Okay. Yeah.

Lt. Col. Ret. Jason Pike: First of all, everything’s gonna be all right with the pattern and the development that you’ve got right now. If you just keep on going and be yourself don’t change just because of the people changing.

If this is yourself and this is your steering wheel and this is how you go in your heart, you got to stay on that path. Because that’s you and people will know who you are. If you try to change yourself and deviate from that, you’re not being on your true core steering path. And, and then therefore, they’ll, you’ll find you, other people may not know where to come from with you.

You may [00:21:00] not get the benefit out of the doubt of being yourself because you’re trying to change and be other people. So I’m just saying, keep on going. It’s going to be all right as long as you be yourself.

L. Scott Ferguson: Yeah. Love it. The authentic. That’s beautiful. That’s the best advice, man. So, how do you want your dash remembered, Jason?

That little line in between your incarnation date and your expiration date, man. Your life date and death date. Hopefully, it’s way down the line, but how does Jason want his dash remembered?

Lt. Col. Ret. Jason Pike: Could you explain that again? I’m a slow processor. I’m trying to, yeah, dash. When you say dash, I’m trying to figure out.

So, you ever see a tombstone?

L. Scott Ferguson: Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So, you’re born in 1965, right? Right. Right. Right. Okay. There’s a dash, right? Right now, it doesn’t say anything, right? Your dash is how people remember you. How do you want your dash remembered?

Lt. Col. Ret. Jason Pike: Veteran, author, father, and husband, basically. Yeah. Love it, man.

L. Scott Ferguson: I mean, the go giver, bro, because you’re giving to people, man. , you’re, you’re showing out, you’re helping people showing out without showing. , we’re showing other people up. , that’s beautiful, man. So [00:22:00] Jason, what do you think people might misunderstand the most about you?

Lt. Col. Ret. Jason Pike: Oh, they’re gonna look at me as maybe possibly too humble I I am this book a soldier against all odds i’m coming from you at a point of view I’m a senior manager and i’m gonna tell you my screw ups in life in detail But i’m i’m i’m proud of who I am and I am who I am.

That’s who what makes me So a lot of people that have a lot of these officers and these senior people, they have a lot of pride in themselves and they, and that’s, they have a proud, a proud full position. That’s why they call you, sir. And that’s why you make more money. But at the end of the day, everybody’s human.

We all have failures and screw ups. And the more you give out. on yourself the more someone else could possibly grow from you and that’s kind of how I wanted to put my life together. A lot of people I think they’ll look at this book and some of my peers like man damn he they kind of shy away in a way because sometimes they shy [00:23:00] away because I’m very much just giving to myself giving out into the open.

I love

L. Scott Ferguson: it man no I absolutely love it. So Jason then what would be your definition of a life well lived?

Lt. Col. Ret. Jason Pike: Oh, life well lived is I think as long as you’ve got your friends and your family and the love of community, whatever that not niche or that notches and that what makes you feel comfortable, I think that’s going to give you the best of the best in life.

L. Scott Ferguson: Yeah, I love it, man. And what, it’s like you’re just this guy that is going to slide across home plate man bumped and bruised, but you help so many people along the way and that’s to me. That that’s crazy. Awesome. Impressive. So how about like, what are three things then that Jason can’t live without?

Lt. Col. Ret. Jason Pike: Food, a nice bed and sleep. I’ll tell you what I cherish the very basic of life. Nice pillows, air conditioning [00:24:00] and good food and sleep. These things are very precious to me because I’ve been without them in many, any, and so I, I always focus on the basics and usually when I’m asking God for something, it’s usually I’m thanking God for a bed and for air conditioning, things of that nature.

Yeah. Hell

L. Scott Ferguson: yeah, man. It’s like a, It’s funny. A lot of people will pray for what they want instead of to become the person to accept that you’re good there, brother. You

 . Time to shine today. Podcast for Varsity squad.

We are back and Jason, we’ll meet up one day, maybe rocket stage here and there, and talk about some of these questions at length, maybe a brain grenade and, , sit back and enjoy some time, but you got five seconds today with no explanations and they can all be answered that way. You ready to level up?

Let’s go for it. All right, let’s do this. All right, Jason, what is the best leveling up advice you’ve ever received?

Lt. Col. Ret. Jason Pike: Oh, my gosh. You’ve got to improve your grades on son. My dad would say I’ve got to get these grades up.

L. Scott Ferguson: Yeah, it’s a [00:25:00] beautiful share one of your personal habits that contributes to your success.

Lt. Col. Ret. Jason Pike: Oh, physical fitness. That’s the main thing. I have to do something.

L. Scott Ferguson: Excellent. Excellent. These are short answers. Let’s go with it. See me walking on the street. Man, Fergie looks like he’s in his doldrums a little bit. Not your book. Give me another book that can help me level up.

Lt. Col. Ret. Jason Pike: Hey man, I, I don’t, I don’t have an answer to that one.

L. Scott Ferguson: What’s your most commonly used emoji when you text? Thumbs up. Beautiful. Nicknames growing up. Jake, Jake. Love it. Give me a hidden talent or superpower that you might have that nobody really knows about.

Lt. Col. Ret. Jason Pike: I’m a quiet, observant person hanging out, but I’m studying things.

Yeah. Awesome.

L. Scott Ferguson: Chest checkers or monopoly?

Lt. Col. Ret. Jason Pike: Oh, monopoly.

L. Scott Ferguson: Beautiful. Headline for your life.

Lt. Col. Ret. Jason Pike: I did it my way.

L. Scott Ferguson: Yeah. Go [00:26:00] to ice cream flavor. Vanilla. All right, my man. So there’s a, there’s a sandwich called the Jake build that sandwich for me. What’s on it.

Lt. Col. Ret. Jason Pike: Turkey, tomatoes, lettuce, onions, and mayonnaise.

L. Scott Ferguson: Beautiful.

Favorite charity and organization you like to give your time or money to?

Lt. Col. Ret. Jason Pike: Upstate Warrior Solution in Greenville, South

L. Scott Ferguson: Carolina. Love it. Love it. Last question. You can elaborate on this one a little bit. Well, what’s the best decade of music? 60s, 70s, 80s, or 90s? 70s. Yeah,

Lt. Col. Ret. Jason Pike: my man, Leonard Skinner.

L. Scott Ferguson: Love it.

Jason, how can we find you? My brother,

Lt. Col. Ret. Jason Pike: jasonpike. org, jasonpike. org. You’ll find all my social media handles in there. The book, a soldier against all odds. There’s got, I’ve got another book coming out for a vet self help guide. It’s coming from uniformed personnel to civilian life. It’s more of a self help guide for veterans that’s coming out on February the 11th.

But as far as this book right here, A Soldier Against All Odds, Jason Pike dot org. It’s on [00:27:00] Amazon. It’s if you’re out, if you don’t want to read it, that’s fine. I’ve got it on Audible. I am the narrator. I am the author. It’s coming from the horse’s mouth on Audible Amazon audio as well. So that’s where you’ll find it.

L. Scott Ferguson: Yep. I love it. And if you buy it let’s say you bought it on Kindle and then the audible, you can get it as well for actually 8 cheaper than when it would, if you’re not an audible subscriber, I’m just looking at right now, I’m going to pick it up myself. So that’s fantastic. Jason and squad. I’m going to do a.

A book giveaway for Jason’s we’re actually gonna do a two book giveaway. For the first person that actually just, just put in Jason rocks and any of our social, I don’t care if it’s LinkedIn, Pinterest, Instagram, I don’t care if you text it to 561. 4403830. I will personally on time to sign today’s dime, send out a book, a soldier against all odds by my really good friend, Lieutenant Colonel Jason G Pike.

And Jason, I need you to do me one last favor here, man, and leave us with one last knowledge nugget. [00:28:00] We can take with us internalize and take action.

Lt. Col. Ret. Jason Pike: Even if you don’t know anything in life, and that’s where I was, I didn’t know anything. I was they said he’s the dummy. If you don’t know anything, show up at the right place at the right time with the right attitude, show up right place, right time, right attitude.

You’ll be doing better than 50%. That’s it. Oh my

L. Scott Ferguson: gosh, that’s strong. And we just had a fun conversation, actually a free masterclass with somebody that legitly rolled in the shit. Right. He, , he failed forward from first grade. , I was kind of told he was going to be a dummy and whatnot. And I, trust me, the only reason why I can affectually say that is because I went through it as well.

Now he’s a national best selling author, tons of naysayers in his life. He actually started to believe in himself, even with the low expectations that he had. He started to believe in himself and all of a sudden this things just started unforming for him. , he says the bottom line that after hard times that the hard times that really wired him, but he did [00:29:00] not let that stop him.

And that’s the true warrior that kind of comes out in inch by inch. It’s a cinch, short steps, long vision. That’s what Jason did. He never stopped. He persevered. No matter what, he reminded us that no matter what phase of life we are in, there will be shit. So, dive in sometimes, you’ve got to, just like Jason did, survive.

And there’s people there that are gonna even help you, even people that you wouldn’t expect. Like a South Korean woman, that actually helped him out. He will tell you, Jason will tell you that people will want to knock you down, backstab you. Be, so be very cognizant of what you say and do. And if you need help, get your asking gear.

There’s people out there that you can ask for help. That’s what Jason really kind of put through. He’s so transparent. He wants you to know that everything will be all right. Enjoy your journey, but be authentic. Again, he’s going to slide across home plate knowing that he’s a person that was a great friend, a great [00:30:00] husband, a great community, just a fantastic tribe.

I mean, Jason with this book and the next book that’s coming out in February, that he’s planting trees he’s never going to sit in the shade of. He’s he does things for the intention, not the attention, even though his stories are garnering him a lot of attention, but he does it to help you. And even if you don’t know anything, show up at the right place, the right time with the right attitude, and you will kill it.

And Jason, thank you so much for coming on. You level up your health. You level up your wealth. You’re a handsome devil. You, you earned your varsity squad letter here at time to shine today. Thank you so much for coming on brother. I absolutely love your guts. Hey, thank you, Scott.

Lt. Col. Ret. Jason Pike: Take care

L. Scott Ferguson: Yeah. See you, my friend.

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