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L. Scott Ferguson: [00:00:00] Time To Shine Today Podcast Varsity Squad. This is Scott Ferguson and I got like a really good friend, one of my first friends in Florida that’s going to come on and rock the mic with me here at the Shine Studios. And her name is Time To Shine Today Borger she’s from DB Wellbeing. Time To Shine Today’s journey is amazing.

I’m blessed to be able to work with her with her, , just kind of help her bridge her success gap and her performance gap. And she, , Is I would almost say she’s a little bit better than me about working with other people as well with regards to really helping them level up. She’s super connected here in south florida.

She’s helped me out immensely the knowledge nuggets she drops about her journey and her passion and her fire for helping people Really lean into their ultimate human potential is on full display So, please share this with somebody that might be a little lost or that knows that there’s more because they’re gonna definitely pick up some serious awesome sauce knowledge nuggets And if you like it please hit like or subscribe my sponsors and affiliates absolutely love that So without further [00:01:00] ado here comes my really good friend my sister from another mista You Time To Shine Today Borger from DB Wellbeing.

Let’s level up.

Time to shine today podcast varsity squad. This is Scott Ferguson and I am so stoked to bring you this It’s like one of my best friends from not wounded to him, but we’ve she was one of my first friends in south florida I was like periscoping if you guys remember what that was, , kind of do live streams and she was Work at work, and she’s like, What is that, man?

I showed her. She’s like, Wow. And then she actually kind of showed me around South Florida, introduced me some really cool people. So I have like, almost a debt that I kind of feel that I owe to my good friend, Time To Shine Today Borger, who’s from Pottstown, Pennsylvania, to the waves of South Florida. She’s a native Pennsylvanian with graduated from Temple, Pennsylvania.

University undergraduate holds dual degrees in elementary and early childhood education. So she’s kind of a smarty, but she didn’t stop in the classroom. She’s an athlete, adventure, and equestrian, a lifelong athlete. Time To Shine Today’s passion for active water based lifestyle led her to come to the aquatics director and a certified level two kayak sup, which is stand up paddleboarding instructor.

[00:02:00] She teaches both on land and sea. She’s a big believer in healing through movement because she battled some spinal injuries. She discovered the power of fitness and transformed her body. She used strength. Training to heal and is now driven to help others achieve the same results. She’s a fitness guru extraordinaire with an impressive list of certifications from the NASM and ASM certified personal trainer, youth exercise, exercise specialist, nutritionist, yogi, and more.

And now she’s also kind of a globe trotting, , instructor as well. Like I last before she was in Costa Rica, she loves the, anywhere there’s water, you’ll find my, my friend Time To Shine Today, but if she’s also really moved into, I’m so proud of her. Mindset coaching into my arena and she’s absolutely phenomenal.

She’s coached me. I’m blessed to be able to help her out a little bit in her business and just to have a 2. 0 interview with her and see how far she’s came. Cause I literally watched our interview from August 18th of 2020. And it was like, both of our stuff looks like shit. And it was funny to say how far now you see [00:03:00] she’s light.

She’s bright. She’s healthy. And my whole. And I’m going to shut up and introduce Deb. So Time To Shine Today, thank you so much for coming on. Please introduce yourself. The time to shine today, podcast, varsity squad, but first tell us a superpower you might have that nobody knows about until now,

Debi Borger: a superpower that I might have that nobody knows about until now I am a crazy.

Pre freed editor, spelling and grammatical errors. Like that,

L. Scott Ferguson: I gotta tell you, Time To Shine Today, like I said, she’s a good friend and she’s a confidant and I, we text each other probably at least once a day, just about coaching stuff. And she’ll be like, I love catching her. Like it doesn’t have, I think it’s happened twice in that years.

I’ve known her, but I’m like, Hey, that’s wrong. That’s grammatically wrong, but it’s true. You’re like really good at that. So let’s get a little bit to your background. , again, if you know, because people would have to go back all the way back to, I believe, Episode 121, and we’ll be dropping [00:04:00] you in the 450s.

So let’s go kind of back to Pottstown and a little bit of the education and journey that kind of brought you to South Florida and into your, , fitness coaching and your mindset coaching.

Debi Borger: So I started. In Temple University with degree. Yes. In education because I was always a camp counselor growing up working with kids and I was a lifeguard and I taught swim instruction at a young age at the YMCA.

So it seemed natural to go to college. And my parents said, what do you want to do? And what do you like to do? And I said, well, I like to work with kids. Okay. Naturally, you’re going to become an educator. I also taught Hebrew school and Sunday school. So that seemed to be the right fit to be an educator.

Gradually after I graduated college, I took a year off and I went to Costa Rica. And that’s when I first got bit by that bug in 2000. And I came back and I taught a [00:05:00] little bit in some different settings, a preschool setting, a intermediate school meaning. Where kids go in between getting kicked out of high school before they go to detention centers.

So that was a really interesting experience. And then I became an aquatics director and phys ed teacher in Deal, New Jersey when I was living in Long Branch. And that was because of No Child Left Behind at the time. It was a very transitional year. For young educators like myself and a lot of us weren’t able to get tenured jobs in the school districts that at that time So I moved to new jersey and again lived on the shore I had spent my summers in ocean city, maryland And that’s basically how I ended up kind of getting into the fitness world in an education Background with an education background.

So

L. Scott Ferguson: was it like These kids that are either going to go to youth [00:06:00] detention Were you kind of like for a lack of a better term a savior for them? Like to kind of like say, okay This is a direction you could go in life or this is another direction. Is that kind of what you did?

Debi Borger: Yes, and no, okay They couldn’t be They couldn’t behave and be in a regular classroom setting, whether it was because they had mental issues or learning disabilities, or some of them could have been born addicted to drugs.

There were so many different things that were going on. I mean, we had classrooms with padded walls. So, I mean, these kids would have to, , go in the room, bang it out, slam on the, , whatever you needed to do and let us know when you’re ready to reenter the classroom. There’s a smaller setting, but, yes, you were kind of like their last resort that if they couldn’t get their act together, they weren’t going to be put back in with the normal.

Population in school or they were going to go into a detention facility.

L. Scott Ferguson: That’s that’s amazing You have that [00:07:00] takes mad patience, right? And that’s where a lot of it comes, especially with you being an instructor where people want those results now, , and it’s like dude It didn’t take you three months to get to where you are now It’s going to take you a little longer, but you push them and you you level them all that that’s beautiful So tell me a little bit about the trip to florida or , the move to florida You And then how you really got settled in rocking.

Cause I’ll tell you what, like squad Jupiter, Florida, like I affectionately call her like the mayor of Jupiter because she knows fricking everybody. And it’s awesome to watch her like network and move around and the connections she makes and the people that she introduces me to. So tell us a little bit about that.

Debi Borger: It’s interesting you say that because I think for years I laughed every time someone would say that to me. I mean I would have friends who’d come to visit and they’d say everywhere we go you know somebody like you’re like the mayor. It’s true.

L. Scott Ferguson: You and I can’t go to coffee without like seven people. I know, I know,

Debi Borger: but since I’ve returned and you and I have been working together I’ve actually as you [00:08:00] know owned it and leaned into it.

Right. And started to say okay you. Let’s level up and look at this for a second and actually see that and who I connect can connect with who and who I can reach out to for opportunities. And it’s kind of amazing, but it’s also kind of like, yeah, if I ever want to go on a date, I think I’m going to have to go like, Way, way out of town, but, but it’s, it, and it, it’s interesting because, , I came here from ocean city, Maryland with a bunch of sport fishermen.

They, , were, I wasn’t going back to Costa Rica that year and I was bartending and my friends said, we’re going to store Florida. And my girlfriend said, yeah, I’m going to go to Jupiter. And I have always had family in Fort Lauderdale, but I didn’t want to go to Fort Lauderdale. And so I said, okay, I’ll come down with you first season and get a job bartending.

And my first job bartending here was at [00:09:00] the rum bar at Panama Hatties, which is longer there. I think

L. Scott Ferguson: it was literally taken down the year I moved here. Across from waterway.

Debi Borger: Yes. Yeah. Okay.

L. Scott Ferguson: Literally it’s being demolished. It was like 2014 or something like that. It’s like a shell. Yeah. Anyways. Yeah.

Debi Borger: And yeah, so I worked there and then I think I went back to ocean city for one summer and then that was it.

I came, , back here and I stayed here and. So it was the ties to the fishing community. And then I worked for blue line and it was the ties to that. And I ran summer camp and I worked in restaurants and bars in the area. So in every field, I knew a lot of people because of all the different jobs that I had.

And ever since I came back now, it’s completely different because I remember sitting and talking to Matt Arnsman at blue line. When I got back, I think I told you the story where I said to him after I moved back from Costa Rica. I said that I wasn’t sure that I wanted to come back here that I [00:10:00] thought I wanted to move somewhere new and start somewhere new.

And he says to me, what do you mean? You’re not going to come. You weren’t going to come back to Jupiter. You’re like. A person here.

L. Scott Ferguson: Yeah. . You’re like, somebody I just baby labs.

Debi Borger: I’m like, I’m a person.

L. Scott Ferguson: Yeah.

Debi Borger: In Jupiter , he’s like, you’re an og. Yeah. You have to come back here. A

L. Scott Ferguson: hundred percent. Yeah. And it’s like, how did

Debi Borger: you go?

L. Scott Ferguson: Yeah. I’m, I’m so glad that you came back because I think it’s a great place to plant your flag right now. ’cause , I, I know that you and I work in. To get you the laptop lifestyle to travel where you want coach from where you want and stuff like that, which you kind of do it now already, but just to maybe put that on steroids.

But I’m so glad that you home based here just because it’s it’s chill. I would, I tell people I love to travel, but I’ll probably take my last breath and Palm Beach Gardens or Jupiter, , it’s just, it’s my version of paradise. And it’s funny when people come here, they go, ah, I got you. I understand why.

So let’s move into how you kind of. Like really what turned on the fitness, [00:11:00] the fitness kind of bug for you. I mean, obviously look at you, you’re in stellar shape and you always have been since I’ve known you, but like the really help people level up their fitness side.

Debi Borger: For me, it started with my back problems.

Like you said, I love riding horses. I am active. I like to go hiking. I like to be out on the water. And for me, it really started with that. I had scoliosis. I have scoliosis and I suffered a neck injury early on in my years here in Florida working for a paddleboard company. And , it was really about trying to strengthen the muscles around the spine because they’ve been telling me that I need spinal surgery since I was in my early 20s when I lived in New Jersey, I started with x rays and MRIs and being told that I needed to have surgery.

spinal surgery. So I’ve been putting it off and putting it off and putting it off. And one of the things that I realized was the stronger the rest of my body [00:12:00] got, , the easier it was for me to move and adapt and for other muscles to compensate for things where my, and give my back a little bit of a break.

As I got older, I wanted to kind of help and share that with other people. And I made the jump. I mean, if you remember when we met, I had been working as a bartender and I had carpal tunnel surgery. I was nannying for my nephew. I couldn’t go back to working at the bar. Then I got sober and I was working in a coffee shop, right?

10

L. Scott Ferguson: plus years, by the way, where we

Debi Borger: met. And it was. a little bit of training and a little bit of waitressing. And finally it was like, okay, are you need to jump off and see if you sink or, , or fly, fall or fly. And, and so finally I said, I, , I don’t want to do this physical job like this anymore.

And I want to be, do something else. And so that’s how really I, I [00:13:00] ran, jumped and luckily I flew.

L. Scott Ferguson: And you’re a

Debi Borger: time personal trainer.

L. Scott Ferguson: Yeah, and you’re, you’re highly sought after that. I know that you’ve turned, like, you respectfully have to turn people down just because of your time and energy and stuff like that.

And I know we’ve worked on it as well, like how to do that lately, . But so what, let’s, let’s move into kind of coaching, ’cause that’s what I really wanna branch you on this podcast. I wanna. Make sure that people out there that need you to help them level up their life, to help them with their mindset, bridge that, , success and performance gap, right?

So what moved you into that arena?

Debi Borger: Well, first off, obviously, as , watching the transformation that I underwent with you when I came back. So obviously, I owe you all of the appreciation to that, but , fitness always has a heart, which is mindset. I [00:14:00] always say, , there’s the physical part of fitness.

There’s the mental part of fitness. There’s the emotional part of fitness, and then there’s the rest part of fitness, right? The sleep, , the recovery but. I think for me, mostly was putting it all together and then working with you and being able to focus, as we say, on the windshield and the future and not through the rear view mirror and the past.

Yeah. And, , being able to say, okay, these are the goals that I want to set for myself, as you remember, when we sat down and you said, what is it that, , when I called you to look at real estate, and, , you said, well, what is it you want to do with the rest of your life? So, but even throughout the process and really learning, especially as of late, that, that calling to [00:15:00] me, that answer that I gave to you was embedded in my being all this time, and I didn’t realize it until it was called to the surface.

L. Scott Ferguson: It

Debi Borger: had been, as I told you, I’ve always had this vision. I’ve always had this idea. And then. , you stuff it down, you stuff it down and we go and do what we think we should do, or we go and work where we, what pays the bills and personal training and coaching doesn’t always pay the bills first.

Right? So again, I’m jumping off a ledge and taking a chance, but I knew that this is something that I had to do because it’s been in my soul and in my being and it’s my calling. And it’s like, you’re born to do it.

L. Scott Ferguson: You’re born to do it. And. The older we get, , I’m not going to say, well, I’m 52. I know how old you are.

I’m not going to say it, but it’s like, we’re kind of in that silverback age. Right. Where we’re not in

Debi Borger: the silverback yet.

L. Scott Ferguson: Well, you’re not young where people [00:16:00] are like, what the hell are you talking about? Shut up. Right. No, you’re not old and people are like, yeah. Okay. Salty. What I’m saying? It’s like, we’re kind of in that where we’re approached and it’s just like a really great time to take advantage of your strengths that you’ve leveraged, , through, , through the years, if you will.

So what do you feel then makes a great coach?

Debi Borger: I think a great coach is first of all, someone that you jive with, right? Someone that you trust, someone that you can trust, someone that you can trust. Is going to be honest with you and you can be honest with them, but they, and they’re going to tell you the hard things, but they’re not going to exploit that and take advantage of being able to tell you hard things.

And I think that it’s someone who really is always in your corner and wants to see the best for [00:17:00] you. And. Not what it’s going to, , bring back to them in return. They really want to see you like a teacher wants to see their students thrive. They want to see them grow and evolve. And then they’re going to be the one in your corner and clapping for you and cheering you on when you do.

L. Scott Ferguson: Right.

Debi Borger: And I think that It’s someone, , most importantly that you can trust again. Yeah.

L. Scott Ferguson: Yeah. Really listens really deeply, which you are really, really good at the, to internalize and then really bring them through because we’re coaches, we’re not consultants. Like you’re a fitness consultant, right?

Like you will tell people how you do this exercise, make sure their form’s correct and whatnot. As coaches, , we know what everybody. Once they just don’t know how to talk themselves into it, right? But every challenge they have next to their heart, the solutions there too. So we’re, we’re kind of bringing that out with questions that we ask.

And with that being [00:18:00] said, then when you are maybe in a discovery session and bringing in your first kind of, prospect or client, not first, but , the next one. And is there any secret sauce you don’t mind sharing that you help them find that initial blind spot that’s really holding them back

Debi Borger: while you ask them where they.

Think they were where they would like to be in five years and ask them what’s holding them back at this point in time from being there.

L. Scott Ferguson: Love it.

Debi Borger: What is your goal? Okay. What would you really like to do that? You haven’t done and well, what are the things that are holding you back from doing that right now?

L. Scott Ferguson: Love

Debi Borger: it because it’s step by step,

L. Scott Ferguson: right?

Debi Borger: So let’s start with the first step.

L. Scott Ferguson: Right.

Debi Borger: What is it right now in your life that you would like to change? Right. And then go from there.

L. Scott Ferguson: I love that. And what

Debi Borger: is it that is preventing you from making those changes to those things?

L. Scott Ferguson: Love it. And if you have all that recipe, you can build a [00:19:00] game plan with them.

Right. To really, , attack and do it, but they’ve got to come up with it. That’s, that’s the thing is they’ve got to come up with it. And you and I talk about that a lot. It’s like with our own clients, we talk, , we don’t share critical info, but we share like, oh, , get them to make that decision.

So is there, okay. Let’s say you’re maybe in that discovery session. Is there any good question that you wish they would ask you, but never do?

Debi Borger: Yes. What makes you qualified to do this, .

L. Scott Ferguson: I love it. Yeah, exactly. Do you have a coach? , like I have a coach. What’s going on? Yeah. . I have had a trainer. Yes.

I’ve

Debi Borger: worked with like three or four trainers in my life. I’m actually starting to look for another one. Right. I probably shouldn’t say that out loud. Or I’m gonna have a bunch of trainers. , you

L. Scott Ferguson: have everybody ringing you up to I’ll do it.

Debi Borger: I’ll do it. Got you, Time To Shine Today. I love that.

L. Scott Ferguson: I love it like yes,

Debi Borger: but do how to work with this spine and this neck

L. Scott Ferguson: Right. Yeah, that’s critical for you. 100%.

Debi Borger: You know, you don’t

L. Scott Ferguson: want to get [00:20:00] hurt. No.

Debi Borger: And what I mean by that is, , there are many different ways that someone, look, I say that there’s people who are book smart. And I say that there are people who are street smart. We, we all know that there are people who maybe didn’t, , go to school to learn to be one thing or the other, but have the experience.

Experience of actually walking through that fire that has come out on the other side and been able to say, well, this is what helped me to get through it. Right. This is what I did. And this is where I am now. And it may not be the right step for you, but together we can find the right steps for you.

L. Scott Ferguson: Love it.

Debi Borger: But everybody’s different.

L. Scott Ferguson: Just like every

Debi Borger: body is different. I can’t train everybody cookie cutter because everybody’s body is different. Everybody’s mind is different.

L. Scott Ferguson: Right. Love it.

Debi Borger: Everyone’s goals are different.

L. Scott Ferguson: So as, as you made the jump to, let me ask you this first, what do you feel like your strengths are as a coach?[00:21:00]

Debi Borger: Experience?

L. Scott Ferguson: Okay. Unpacking,

Debi Borger: I think. But unpack it, I think, well, 1st of all, I mean, I think it’s education. I should go back and say it’s education. I mean, you can’t just be a coach because you’re walking around saying, oh, I went through this or I went through that. Okay. So obviously there’s got to be some structure.

There’s got to be some education. If I can handle 30 kids in a North Philadelphia school. I can handle 1 on 1 in a classroom and then, , things like that. There’s got to be some structure. But I also feel that there are times when someone says, well, you don’t have, for example, you don’t have kids.

You don’t understand. You’ve never been married. You don’t understand. Right. Right. But what they don’t know about me is that I was 20 years old and raising someone else’s two kids at the time. Right. Yeah. They don’t know my past experience. Right. [00:22:00] Right. Exactly. You were never addicted to drugs, so you don’t understand, or you never had this go on in your family, so you don’t understand.

L. Scott Ferguson: Right. Yeah, I have

Debi Borger: a lot of experience that a lot of people don’t know about So I think before you Judge and and try to pick your coach on what you think and and , take a look and listen

L. Scott Ferguson: You ever fight imposter syndrome being a coach?

Debi Borger: I think you fight imposter syndrome in every The line of work that you have,

L. Scott Ferguson: actually just

Debi Borger: partook in a study by another coach who was doing a study on imposter syndrome.

And she interviewed me on it. And especially as women, and especially as I mean, back in the day, as women in the fitness industry, imposter syndrome, are you kidding?

L. Scott Ferguson: Right? Yeah. Really? Really? Other male

Debi Borger: trainers telling you, you don’t know what you’re doing. Cause you’re a woman,

L. Scott Ferguson: right? You

Debi Borger: start off.

L. Scott Ferguson: Right

Debi Borger: here and [00:23:00] have to prove yourself as a woman in the fitness industry.

Not so much. I wouldn’t think any more, but , I just had a trainer say to me the other day, , I had a new gym where I’m working out and working and they said, , I’ve been watching you. I’ve been watching you work out kind of just, , I watch everybody. You’re the real deal.

L. Scott Ferguson: No, I, I would agree with them a hundred percent, but

Debi Borger: I have to prove myself by how I walk in and how I work out

L. Scott Ferguson: to

Debi Borger: not feel the imposter syndrome of like, am I a good enough trainer in their eyes or, and in coaching, absolutely too.

I think that, I think everybody suffers with it. Imposter

L. Scott Ferguson: syndrome. With my coach, you told me, and I think I sent this out to my roster of clients yesterday to never link your confidence to your abilities. Right and it’s like I saw that it’s huge with that because if you’re gonna link like Okay, i’m blessed to coach a billionaire.

Hey chet if you’re listening, buddy, , and i’m [00:24:00] like dude What the hell can I tell him but what I do is I lean into My confidence in my need to serve to help. And when I do that, they see the genuine, which pops me out of the imposter syndrome. Right? So that’s where like, that’s what I tell anybody that’s really going through that is to, , lean into your confidence of your, your desire to serve and never link your confidence to your abilities.

Cause we’ll never be. Good enough in our own minds all the time, it’s just never going to happen. So we talked about your strengths, but

Debi Borger: one thing about the imposter syndrome that real quick, when you are imposter syndrome can also be linked with being uncomfortable in an unfamiliar environment.

L. Scott Ferguson: Absolutely.

Debi Borger: Okay. So when you’re always leveling up, that new level is always unknown and uncomfortable.

L. Scott Ferguson: So

Debi Borger: if you’re not suffering from imposter syndrome, then you’re not leveling up.

L. Scott Ferguson: Yep. I try to feel every day. Because if you’re

Debi Borger: good where you are here, [00:25:00] that’s where you stay.

L. Scott Ferguson: Absolutely. Just get your ass uncomfortable every day.

, then and learn because in that journey, if you’re humble and you shut up and you open your ears because God gave us two years and one mouth for a reason. You listen, you internalize and you act on it. That’s what I’d love to get people to do. , and I know that you do it in spades with your clients as well.

So how about weaknesses? What weaknesses do you feel you have?

I’m saying it with a smile because I’m blessed to work with Time To Shine Today. So I kind of know,

Debi Borger: but I want to hear it. I think it’s well, we have no, I’m a smart ass. And we know that that’s

L. Scott Ferguson: a strength. You kidding

Debi Borger: me? Yeah, I did too, but some people don’t. I know. Right. Well, yeah, I think that’s not true. I mean, I have weaknesses, but I guess it’s because recently as of recent, I’ve been told that my strengths can be looked at as [00:26:00] weaknesses, right?

Not weaknesses, but , personality flaws of Not drinking. That’s a strength to me and that’s a strength to me. , things like that weaknesses, having been on my own for a really long time, I think it’s hard for me to allow other people to help me. I think that I, , always say I can do it myself.

I’m not always very good at taking, although I’m getting better at taking compliments.

L. Scott Ferguson: Sure. Sure.

Debi Borger: , and I, I think that I reply quick I’m learning better to take time to think about things before I say them and, and, a lot of my personality flaws and weaknesses I’ve been working on, obviously, since I got back in the program, since that’s something that I didn’t do before.

And so I think that I’ve definitely worked on a lot of those,

L. Scott Ferguson: you appreciate them.

Debi Borger: Yes.

L. Scott Ferguson: Tell me why. Tell us why.

Debi Borger: [00:27:00] That I appreciate my weaknesses. Mm-Hmm, . Because nobody’s perfect, right? Nobody’s perfect, right?

L. Scott Ferguson: Yeah. We always have something to work. And you just said bef, we just said, or you said before, we always wanna level up.

And if you have that weakness, you can always find something to, to move towards. That’s, that’s beautiful, Time To Shine Today.

Debi Borger: Right? There’s so many different areas. I also believe that, . And in and in coaching and looking for a good coach is somebody who also highlights your strength and isn’t always working on your weaknesses either.

Yeah,

L. Scott Ferguson: you gotta be like, as a coach, we have to celebrate everything for them and look for things when it’s hard to find them. You know what I’m saying? And that’s that’s. huge for anybody just to keep them, on that course, because you, you and I are nothing more than really GPS is right. We’re not telling them where to go.

, they come up with it. They plug in the address. We’re just there. If , a tree falls across the road. If you’re coming over to Fergie’s place, you’re like, Oh, sure. You’re not gonna be like, I’m not going. No, we’ll find [00:28:00] a fricking other way. Right. But then, like you had said earlier, we can’t buckle the seatbelt if they so choose to or start the car put it in gear they’ve got to do the work and that’s the difference between coaching and consulting because I used to be what I thought was a coach sultanet where I’d tell people what to do And be like fergie that didn’t work.

You’re a freaking idiot, , i’m saying

Debi Borger: that’s right. I don’t

L. Scott Ferguson: want to be

Debi Borger: responsible Exactly. Exactly

L. Scott Ferguson: No, no Yeah, so let’s get back now that , let’s get back to that delorean with marty mcfly, right? Let’s go back You To the double deuce, the 22 year old Time To Shine Today. I don’t want you to change anything in your life.

Yeah, there’s a few things of course, but what you’ve went through has got you here, but what would you might tell her to help her shorten her learning curve? Or maybe blast through, maybe just a little bit quicker.

Debi Borger: Honestly, at this stage in the game and where I am right now and in the [00:29:00] chapter of my life that I’m going through with my profession, pay attention and ask questions, your elders, because. They’re not going to be around forever. And right now my cousin and my sister were kind of playing catch up on my grandmother and her life because I’m paralleling it right now.

And we’ve realized that, and it’s insane. And I think back and I go, I was only 12 when this happened. I was only I was 16 or 18 or 20 when my grandparents sold their farm and I wasn’t present because I was down in Ocean City, Maryland and having a good time. And that’s fine. You’re young. You should have a good time.

Yeah. But that is also the time now when you’re in your forties, you’re going to look back and go, I didn’t ask enough questions. I really [00:30:00] did not get to know my elders the way that I wish I could have and ask the questions that I need to know now.

L. Scott Ferguson: That’s awesome. When

Debi Borger: your parents, if they’re lucky enough to still be alive, that’s great.

And they can answer the questions for you.

L. Scott Ferguson: Sure.

Debi Borger: But I find that now’s the time where I wish I would have,

L. Scott Ferguson: that’s, that’s fantastic. I mean, , it like Leah Woodford, another good friend that I rock stages with. , she says, get your asking here, right? She owns the fem city magazine. She does all this stuff.

And she said, Fergie, get your asking here one day. And I’m like, that’s true. I, even it, I was my late forties then. And I would be like, dude, all I have to do is fricking ask. And I, that’s the thing is my superpower is curiosity. I’m super curious. And sometimes I forget that I forget to ask that. So how do you want your.

Dash remembered that, that little line in between your incarnation date and your expiration date, your life date and your death date. God willing, hopefully it’s way, way down the line. But how do you want your Dash remembered?[00:31:00]

Debi Borger: That she may have been burned down to the ground several times in her life, but every time she rose from the ashes brighter than before.

L. Scott Ferguson: Oh, it’s awesome. Like

Debi Borger: reinvent, reinvent, reinvent, rebuild, and just keep. Yeah,

L. Scott Ferguson: you don’t ever actually fail unless you quit, it’s the truth. So what do you think people might misunderstand the most about Time To Shine Today?

Debi Borger: I think that people misunderstand the most, unless you get to know me, that there’s a soft feminine side. That there is a sweet, funny, genuine, unique, and only my inner circle and my family, I think at times really get to see that I

L. Scott Ferguson: love it. I get to see it because you’re so driven and I love that. And you and I are kind of like, , you’re my sister from another mister.

Right? And [00:32:00] I’m your, it’s like that. It’s like, we are so driven that we sometimes just have to be like, and people see us and they’re like, dude, do you have any fun and our friends and family kind of see it, but other people don’t, yeah,

Debi Borger: we’re vulnerable with each other, right? Like I can be vulnerable. I trust you.

I can be open. I can be honest. And I think that, , people can often think that. , she, she’s hard. She’s independent. She’s tough. She’s this. She’s that. But what I love the most is the time where I get to just chill and be funny and be silly and say the dumb things where she really just say that right.

Did I really just hear that come out of an educated woman’s mouth and I’m fine with that, like, that’s, , I want to be like, you’re such an idiot.

L. Scott Ferguson: Right. So how about, what is, how about Deb’s, Time To Shine Today’s definition of a life well lived, [00:33:00]

Debi Borger: a life well lived. , it’s interesting because that’s been changing, right?

Really? I thought that a life well lived was going to look one way. And now I’ve realized that it’s okay for a life well lived to look one way. A different way, right? If that life well lived means that you’re happy and you’re surrounded by family and friends who know and love you and you can do what you love.

For example, nobody’s coming to save you. Nobody’s, , you can’t count on that. Somebody else is just going to come in and sweep you off your feet. And , that old fairytale, you’re going to go live happily ever after. And then you come and think, Okay, if that didn’t work, I’m still no, you have to build it.

You have to do it. And If that means that someday down the road, you’re [00:34:00] 60 and single, but you’re, you’ve got four horses on a farm and you have six dogs and you’re happy to wake up every day and you look outside and go, this is what I built for myself. Right? And I am so happy and in the woods and, and with the ocean and everything else.

Your life can be well lived no matter how you design it. That’s amazing.

L. Scott Ferguson: Absolutely. I agree. 1 million trillion kajillion percent on that and squad.

Time to shine today, podcast versus squad. We are back and Time To Shine Today, I’m going to ask you a few of these, but I wanted to kind of get them updated, , as we as we move through this interview and , the rules, like you got five seconds to answer them with no explanations and they can all be answered that way.

You’re ready to level up.

Debi Borger: Yep.

L. Scott Ferguson: Let’s do this. Time To Shine Today, what is the best leveling up advice you’ve ever received?

Debi Borger: Work smarter, not harder.

L. Scott Ferguson: Love it. Share one of your personal habits that contributes to your success.

Debi Borger: Waking up every morning and listening to a [00:35:00] motivational podcast

L. Scott Ferguson: Love it So see me walking down the street or at the beach or a networking event You’re like man fergie looks like he’s in his doldrums.

What book might you hand me? That’s really changed your mind and mindset and kind of really had you level up I’ve

Debi Borger: read so many I would probably, I liked the go giver that’s sticking out right now, but my favorite is always the alchemist.

L. Scott Ferguson: Oh yeah, Kohilo, he’s awesome.

Debi Borger: I mean,

L. Scott Ferguson: love it. Most commonly used emoji when you text?

Debi Borger: Hearts.

L. Scott Ferguson: Love it. Nicknames growing up.

Debi Borger: I’m not even gonna repeat the one, but as in college, it became Time To Shine Today snacks, little snack cakes.

L. Scott Ferguson: Love it. Love. That’s awesome. So just checkers and monopoly

Debi Borger: checkers.

L. Scott Ferguson: Gotcha. You got a [00:36:00] time machine and you can go 20 years in the future or visit a time in the past. 20 years in the past, which which we go

Debi Borger: 20 years in the past.

L. Scott Ferguson: Me too. There’s an awesome kegger in like 1989 that I’d love to go back to hell. Yes headline for your life

Debi Borger: together We can do hard things.

L. Scott Ferguson: That’s exactly our motto. That’s killer.

Debi Borger: That is my motto, but I also like , elevate your mind, elevate your body, elevate your world.

L. Scott Ferguson: Love it. That’s badass. Any superstitions you might buy into?

Debi Borger: Yes. I always lift my feet when I go over railroad tracks, which down here is every day.

L. Scott Ferguson: Yeah, exactly. Go to ice cream flavor.

Debi Borger: Lactose intolerance. So anyone that is lactose free, but coffee.

L. Scott Ferguson: Okay, very cool. There’s a sandwich called the dubby snacks build that sandwich for me.

Debi Borger: Oh pita bread [00:37:00] or scooped out wheat bread lettuce turkey Jalapenos cucumbers spinach and chipotle sauce.

L. Scott Ferguson: No. No, I know why you’re my friend favorite charity and organization like to give your time and or money to

Debi Borger: Jafka Jafka is a Jewish orphanage in sunrise, Florida that my family has love that.

L. Scott Ferguson: That’s fantastic. And last question, you can elaborate on this one a little bit, but what’s the best decade of music, 60s, 70s, 80s, or 90s.

Debi Borger: Eighties,

L. Scott Ferguson: everything from, let’s say we got invaded by like YouTube, Duran Duran. We had men at work in Vegas. We had big hair. Don’t care. Rap, , beastie boys run DMC. It’s like everything started

Debi Borger: into the nineties, but hip hop. But yeah,

L. Scott Ferguson: but if you look at, or listen to songs now, they have a lot of their hooks like [00:38:00] pitbulls, like.

Song will have like, ahas take on me from the eighties is it’s hooked. Like a lot of them flow rider. A lot of his stuff is hooked round, , round through that was by dead or alive. It’s like a lot of them are

Debi Borger: Tracy Chapman’s fast car.

L. Scott Ferguson: There you go. Absolutely.

Debi Borger: That the children today, and I call them children actually think that that’s a new song.

I

L. Scott Ferguson: love that. I love it. So the stage is yours. How can we find you?

Debi Borger: My website, db wellbeing. com Instagram is at Deb wellbeing.

L. Scott Ferguson: I’ll throw them all in the show. Nuts love. You don’t have to worry about going through. So you can find

Debi Borger: me on my website and then link tree and everything else. But you can, you mean, where here can you find me?

L. Scott Ferguson: Yeah, just on the beach

Debi Borger: in Jupiter.

L. Scott Ferguson: There you go. , you’ll be there. , shoot. Don’t say that. We’ll edit that out. But so, like, I believe that you have [00:39:00] some kind of giveaway, which I’ve actually opted into. But tell me a little bit about the 7 day resets.

Debi Borger: Yes, I wanted to throw something out there for all the moms and women who are, , going into the 4th quarter of the year already kids going back to school.

Mom’s coming back to working out full time. They’re exhausted from being home with the kids all summer and we’re gearing up for the holiday season already. And so I just put together a real quick. A seven day free fall reset in 15 minutes or less. And I wanted to come up with some little things that aren’t your normal everyday, , things, but something that they could do.

There’s a recipe for three ingredient shake, there’s little tips and tricks on, just stretching, rolling your feet out because everything starts from the feet up, just. 15 minutes a day for seven days to kind of give yourself a little bit of a reset,

L. Scott Ferguson: right? [00:40:00]

Debi Borger: And, , gear up for that fall season, which is my favorite.

L. Scott Ferguson: Does each day have you said kind of has a different exercise to help you level up.

Debi Borger: I give them all.

L. Scott Ferguson: Okay. You’re just,

Debi Borger: yeah, I was going to drop them one at a time and give them to you and let you do it. But then I decided no working mother or busy business woman is going to want to get seven days of emails from me.

So you can go on my website. You can look at it on my Instagram. All you got to do is opt in with your best email and we’ll send it to you and you can subscribe. This is

L. Scott Ferguson: Time To Shine Today’s website. If you’re on Vimeo or on YouTube. Let’s take a look at this again. It’s dbwellbeing. com. It’s awesome. Awesome site.

Very well put together. Absolutely kick ass. And Time To Shine Today, give me one last solid and leave us with one last knowledge nugget we can take with us, internalize and take action on.[00:41:00]

Debi Borger: I think that the knowledge nugget today is going to be to trust your gut. Trust your gut when it’s telling you that something or someone isn’t right or that a situation isn’t right or that you’re being called to something bigger, higher, better, trust it because for years I didn’t. And now

L. Scott Ferguson: same boat as me love.

Absolutely. Everything

Debi Borger: comes at the perfect time. So really trust the timing of your life.

L. Scott Ferguson: I love it. I love it. And squad, I just had a fun conversation with somebody that I get to talk to quite a bit, but I wanted you guys to hear her words. I mean, education played a huge part in Time To Shine Today’s life, , from teaching at the Y to everything else that she had really.

Helps her lean in and get [00:42:00] people’s stories, , to really move them to help them to move them along their journey. , she started what really stood out to me about her working with the detention and kind of like the last chance, , the last stop. And it’s like her heart had to be solidly in place on a daily basis.

To make sure that they were going in the right direction if they were able to do that She learns to leverage her strengths of connections now where she didn’t before which i’m so glad that she’s doing that But she’s so connected and people love to work with her, And she’s reminds us that a great coach is someone that you can trust number one That’s honest will charge tell you the hard things but yet will be your biggest cheerleader Right every coach she reminds us should have a coach, , and also walk that fire of experience She wants you to really kind of pay attention to your intuition And also never ever stop getting your asking gear if you don’t know anything ask and people will be there To to help you, , I believe , Time To Shine Today is does things for the [00:43:00] intention not the attention She’s not out there.

Like look at me. Look at me. She’s out there really leaning in I call it listening with my neck and really wants to get your story So she can see the path and their gps that she can put you on i’m firm believer. She’s Planting trees. She’s never going to sit in the shade of I mean, I know she’s going to author a book one day I know that she’s absolutely just kicks ass every single day And that’s somebody that I want to surround myself with and I know you want to surround yourself with I would love to make A warm introduction to Time To Shine Today if you would love her services or even just to have I know that she offers a free half hour power where she can talk and work through your stuff.

So , Time To Shine Today, thank you so much for coming on. You level up your health. You level up your wealth. You’re one of my besties for the rest. Thank you so much. Again. You’ve earned a second varsity letter at time to shine today Absolutely. Love your guts.

Debi Borger: Love you, too. Thank you for everything always yay

L. Scott Ferguson: chat soon

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