337-Life Beyond #MeToo and Coaching Chats! – TTST Interview with Forbes Coaches Council Member and Bestselling Author Christine Rose

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Christine Rose is an internationally bestselling author, speaker and coach, Forbes Coaches Council Member, Certified Value Builder Advisor, Certified Core Values Coach, and Certified Psychological Safety Coach featured on Forbes, Public Interest Radio, and National Business Radio. She coaches CEOs to grow leadership, effective teams, and high value companies.

        Let your advanced worrying become your advanced thinking and planning

– Christine T. Rose 

Knowledge Nuggets and Take-Aways

1. A great coach have more than answers – they connect with the right questions

2. Christine loves to do deep dives with her clients, peels back coaching sessions like an onion to see what’s beyond ‘that’

3. Ask your coach what your ROI going to be, then ask them to prove and justify the ROI

4. Christine loves to truly and authentically connect with her clients by creating a safe space a cozy cocoon

5. Take 100% responsibility for the future you want to create for yourself 

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Speech Transcript (very little editing so not exact)

Chrsitne thank you so much for coming. please to introduce yourself to time to shine today podcast varsity squad. But first, what’s your favorite color? And why?

Unknown Speaker  2:09  

Hi, Scott, thank you. It’s so good to be here with you. Of course my favorite color is blue. You know what? I just I love blue. I love water. I love I just love the color, right? Like, I just love that it just makes me feel good.

Unknown Speaker  2:26  

It’s not getting too cold yet. But like my interviewees that are from the north or the cold series, like I live on the Atlantic and blast and I’m looking at the ocean. That’s my favorite color too. You know, so in this like year around. So Christine, let’s get a little bit to the origins. Um, you have a pretty solid story, I read your about page and checked out some YouTube stuff and whatnot. But can we use the origins and where you kind of start it and that brought you forward to being a coach of millionaires, billionaires and leaders?

Unknown Speaker  2:57  

Well, you know what I started in Seattle as the fifth the six kids, although I did find out later that there was a, there was a kid that happened before my family, I didn’t know that I had a half brother, which is pretty exciting. He’s also a coach of leaders. It’s amazing in the Seattle area. And I grew up in an abusive home. I grew up with three abusers in my home. So it was kind of hell. But I was I got through it by being a overachiever. And being a lifelong learner. I lived in the library. And at some point in my adult life, I worked with a coach. And it was such an impactful experience after you know, I did all sorts of counseling work, but I worked with a coach and it was transformative. So I decided, I want to study this. And when I retired at age 53, I said, I’m going to study coaching, I just want to see what that’s about. Okay, and I want to show up the way my coach showed up for me, for the people in this chapter of my life. And darned if I didn’t have to start a business because people started referring people to me to coach. So that’s how I got started.

Unknown Speaker  4:12  

I love it. So then let me cut to the chase. What makes a great coach.

Unknown Speaker  4:16  

Okay. A good coach might have, you know, some information for you. People often think coaches are supposed to have the answers. But the most excellent coaches are really great at connecting with you and asking the right questions to help you generate your own answers that are brilliant and perfect for you that you’re so much more likely to execute on.

Unknown Speaker  4:42  

Thank you. Thank you for saying that. Because I’m not like some people are coaching consultants. The people that I coach, they’ve forgotten more about business and I’ll probably ever know. And I’m a coach, like you just said that the problem resides within them, but so does the answer and the powerful questions and attentive listening it It gets them it gets them through. And that’s why I love I don’t even call myself a coach Sultans. You know, a lot of people will call them that were me. I’m just a straight coach, we build a game plan to get through. So thank you for answering that. But that’s what I exactly what I think a great coaches. Thank you. Yay, we’re like, bro. Yeah,

Unknown Speaker  5:16  

well, when it’s not just what we think I mean, it’s what the evidence has shown, there have been numerous independent verified studies that show that coaching as a methodology is transformative for people aid.

Unknown Speaker  5:29  

Right in so many people will take more action on something that they feel that they’ve came up with, you know, what I’m saying is so true. If you feed them something that doesn’t work, like, dammit Ferguson didn’t work, but if they come up with it, they’re like, they’re gonna push hard until it works. So thank you. Thank you for saying that. So when you’re starting maybe in a discovery period with some of this one on one, cuz I know you do both one on one in groups, because I vetted you out. But if you’re working with some kind of one on one person, is there any secret sauce that you don’t mind sharing with us that maybe helps them find their initial blind spot?

Unknown Speaker  6:08  

Yes, so one of the first things to do is go deeper, deeper, deeper, deeper? It’s, let’s get behind that question. And when you have an answer to the, you know, what you want to do, whatever it is, let’s, let’s go deeper, let’s what’s behind that, and what’s behind that, and what’s behind that? What’s behind that, and we’re gonna get down to the very root of whatever it is that you’re trying to accomplish, achieve, or whatever it is that’s holding you back.

Unknown Speaker  6:38  

Love that. It’s like an onion, like the cliche, you know, layer at a time, you feel so maybe when you’re starting to work with a prospect, and they might eventually turn into a plug, because I’ll tell you, I give everybody a free hour of power. And I talk and I really dig deep into them, like you say, go deeper, deeper, deeper, unpack, unpack, unpack, you know, is your maybe in a discovery conversation? Is there any good question that maybe you wish they would ask you, but never do?

Unknown Speaker  7:18  

I do a lot of asking. What I what I love is when prospective clients ask me what’s my ROI gonna be?

Unknown Speaker  7:42  

Yeah, and it doesn’t even have to mean money, right?

Unknown Speaker  7:45  

No, but you know what, then I get to coach them about how to prove the ROI. And how to justify coaching, because when you invest in coaching, if you don’t get a positive return on investment, you’re not working with a good coach. And, you know, I guarantee ROI from my clients, I guarantee that I will give them their money back if they don’t get a positive ROI. I haven’t had anybody that I’ve had to give money back to Yeah,

Unknown Speaker  8:19  

I can see that I get, I get 100% Because you just seem like such an atlas, or, you know, I’m asking this, these questions. You’re pausing, you’re responding instead of reacting. That’s just the epitome of the start of a great coach, you know, so what do you think then your strengths are in coaching?

Unknown Speaker  8:41  

Hmm, I think that connecting with the client is a strength, creating that safe space. Yeah, we go. Because it’s in that coaching relationship, that, that we we have this, like a cocoon almost are right for this transformation to happen. And if there’s no rips in the cocoon, I got to work. So you got to have a real safe space for a leader. And I don’t care, you know, if they’re 77 years old, or 27 years old, sure. They they need a place where they can show up and know that the coach is 100% for them, and never in a place of judgment. Because they’re exploring their thinking. And they’re creating and they’re coming up with amazing solutions for themselves. And they need that they need that trusting relationship to be able to do that.

Unknown Speaker  9:55  

I love that you made the analogy of a cocoon. Okay, so Will I have to introduce you to my good friend, Meg nostro, she wrote the book butterflies and bliss, fantastic coach in Miami. And I’m going to make that coach. That connection. Meg. So if you’re listening and be ready for Christine for the connection, she’s good friends with Oprah. And like all this, these people are just fantastic. So how about your weaknesses? As a coach? Where do you find yourself working on yourself the

Unknown Speaker  10:24  

most? Well, probably thinking I know the answer.

Unknown Speaker  10:34  

And you sometimes you want to tell it to them?

Unknown Speaker  10:37  

Like, you know, like, let me just be legit. I’ve worked with a lot of people, I’ve gotten a lot of information. And so staying out of Oh, I know the answer in into really listening and diving deeper and helping them to discover the answer.

Unknown Speaker  10:54  

I love to tell them sometimes, though, yeah,

Unknown Speaker  10:59  

they’re right. And they’ll say, oh, my gosh, hold on a second, I need to come back to you. Because you just had a thought. And I’m gonna save that later. I may share it if you ask me. But But let me just you no focus again on what that thing is that you know, together and let that little thought go away. of it.

Unknown Speaker  11:19  

So, Christina, if I’m at a networking event, which I I’m actually kind of an introvert, believe it or not, but like when I go to networking events, I try to get people one on one. Okay. And I’m more interested in hearing their story than tell them the mind. So if they’re telling me their story, what might they say? To make them a good referral for you? Oh,

Unknown Speaker  11:45  

well, I have two different companies. So a good referral for Christine rose coaching and consulting is I keep losing people revolving door. Because I love to help people with identifying what it is that would make somebody an amazing fit for a role. Yes, and I actually have a, an assessment, that’s 97.7% Repeat score reliable that I use to help people find the right person who’s gonna love that role. But other reason why people leave, is because that leader has to do some culture work. Okay. People join, because they love your mission. And they, they love what you do, but they leave because of people. Yeah. And so there’s some culture work to do. And I have some really great toolbox for having conversations that will bring your team together, create that esprit de corps, help your team have the owners mindset. And so those are, those are great. That’s a great thing that people

Unknown Speaker  13:03  

knew back, then you were like, spot out on that answer. A lot of people don’t come back with that, you know, you told Listen, man, I’m losing people. What am I doing wrong? In a sense, you know, that was to level up the culture. So it’s funny, like you found out later in life that you had a half brother. You know, I found out when I was 34 and 50. Now, but when I when I was 34. I found out I had a twin sister. And we met, right. And she was like, I’ve been a real estate broker since I got out of the military in 1998. Right. And she was a real estate broker in New Jersey. Like you said, Your brother’s a coach. You and I are like brothers and sisters from different misters man, that’s, that’s awesome. So have you seen the movie Back to the Future?

Unknown Speaker  13:54  

The original one? Yeah. Yes.

Unknown Speaker  13:57  

Okay, let’s get that DeLorean with Marty McFly. Alright, let’s go back to the double deuce to 22 year old pristine. I don’t we’re not going to change anything. Okay, because I mean, you had some tough times with life and abuse and stuff. But let’s go the 22 year old Christine, what kind of knowledge nuggets might you drop on her to maybe shorten our learning curve last year maybe level up just a little quicker?

Unknown Speaker  14:21  

Oh you know, not just for her, but for any 22 year old? Yeah. I would say take 100% responsibility for your life on it. 100% You know, it doesn’t matter what, what you’ve been through. What’s what you’ve, you know, suffered through. It doesn’t matter. It doesn’t matter whether it’s been good or bad. The future that you create is 100% up to you. You You may not control the circumstances of your life, but you are always in control of your response. And you can put yourself in choice. And you can create a much better future for yourself than you even can imagine.

Unknown Speaker  15:14  

What is your definition of responsibility?

Unknown Speaker  15:20  

All it is to it is to take ownership. Okay, it’s to take ownership, and to, to use your ability to respond.

Unknown Speaker  15:39  

Thank you, my coach since I hired because we were not when I got out of the military, and I still work with her to this day. And she said, Scott, responsibility is key. That’s the number one thing you said, and a double do it. Any person that walks this earth. And she said, responsibility is the ability to respond. It’s rooted right in the word not react, but to respond to things and build up. I love that. I love it. So, Christine, how do you want your dash remember that little line in between your incarnation and your exploration and hopefully it’s a long ways down the road? How do you want on that tombstone? That destruction?

Unknown Speaker  16:15  

Oh, my gosh, I want people to think wow, you know, she was the person who loved God and love people.

Unknown Speaker  16:26  

That’s beautiful. Can you do I can tell. So let’s go another way what what you think people misunderstand the most about Christine?

Unknown Speaker  16:40  

You know, once you reach a certain level, I guess of professional acumen that, that you’re getting attention from people. People who haven’t reached that level, might think, wow, they’re, you know, they’re that she’s a fear ephemeral. She’s not she’s not real. And she’s, you know, she’s not. She’s not like me, I could never be like her. But the truth is that, you know, I need my sleep. I need my, my healthy food. I need water. You know, I have to put clothes on in the morning. I mean, I’m just, I am a human being we believe we do. And I think that is probably the thing people don’t understand. I have friends that I love very dearly. And I can feel a separation from them. And it’s not for me, it’s it’s been on like, as I you know, as I become an author, you know, what an author is somebody who sits there button, a chair for countless hours on a computer screen writing stuff. I mean, it’s a person, right. But it’s like, the more accolades you pick up, people start to think that you’re not like them anymore.

Unknown Speaker  18:02  

Yes. And then you get kind of that crab in a bucket kind of thing. Sometimes, too, is usually the people that love you the most real genuine love the crabs trying to climb out, and the rest of them are trying to pull them back and they don’t understand like, what are you doing? It’s so dangerous out there. Yeah, I love it. So, Christine, let’s, let’s take out of this question. Anything electronical like computers or phones or anything we use to communicate, okay, what are three things that you cannot live without?

Unknown Speaker  18:38  

Three things I can it can be

Unknown Speaker  18:39  

people, places or things. Hmm.

Unknown Speaker  18:44  

Well, I don’t know. I pretty much can live without anything except air water. And I love it. I love it. Like, I gotta have those. Yeah. But if we assume that my basic needs are met. Okay, I’ll go with you, Scott. Then what I depend on are my close loving relationships. And I don’t know if you know that the the Harvard longitudinal study proves that the thing that’s the number one predictor of wellbeing for people are their close relationships. They So invest time in those right time and does that make them good? But they are sustaining and enriching and nourishing, and I love my close personal relationships. I’m high heels, I gotta have high yield.

Unknown Speaker  19:41  

On stage, I love

Unknown Speaker  19:42  

if they have yield. Because you know what? The research shows that when you’re in person with people, you’re tall, you gain some kind of measure of respect. Yeah. It’s like wired into us like that. If I Why are so many presidents are so tall? I never have any political aspirations I would be the I’m not mean either. Let’s end the third thing. Oh my gosh it’s probably my decaf lattes i

Unknown Speaker  20:21  

i love it. My third thing is always really good chicken wings. You know, I have to say I buy chicken weeks. caffe latte. I love it. So what would be your definition of a life well lit

Unknown Speaker  20:36  

you know, for me, I call it the good life. And every year I create my like map for my good life this year. And it changes from year to year. So it kind of is a life where I am pursuing bucket list things that I would love to do where I’m contributing in ways I want to contribute and where I’m learning in ways I want to learn always leveling up the learning Yeah. So and those change from year to year

Unknown Speaker  21:23  

I love it. I love Do you ever just go to a library and show

Unknown Speaker  21:27  

I love my purse I totally love

Unknown Speaker  21:30  

I’m offering my own book some time ago library used to be a rounded like you like I found an escape in the library as well when I was younger. Yeah, so I love that you do that. I love love love that time to shine today podcast. Firstly, squad we’re back and Christine, you and I are gonna rock some stages. One day I just see it and connecting. I can’t wait to pick your brain on some stuff. But I’m going to ask you some questions and we’ll probably talk 1520 minutes on each one of these questions at one time. But today you have five seconds to answer them with no explanations and they can all be answered that way. You ready to level up? Ready let’s do it. Christine, what is the best leveling up advice you’ve ever received?

Unknown Speaker  22:11  

Take 100% responsibility for your life.

Unknown Speaker  22:14  

Love it. Sure whatever your personal habits are contributes to success.

Unknown Speaker  22:21  

Five seconds. Think.

Unknown Speaker  22:24  

There you go. So you see me walking down the street Fergie looks like it is an adult drums a little bit other than the books you’ve authored. What book might you hand me to level up? Level me up?

Unknown Speaker  22:39  

The leadership Dojo by Richard Strozzi, heckler.

Unknown Speaker  22:42  

I someone else just said that to me, I have to pick it up. Thank you for saying that. Christina, what’s your most commonly used emoji when you text?

Unknown Speaker  22:50  

Smiley face beautiful

Unknown Speaker  22:52  

nicknames growing up.

Unknown Speaker  22:54  

Chrissy?

Unknown Speaker  22:55  

Right. Just checkers on monopoly.

Unknown Speaker  23:00  

Monopoly.

Unknown Speaker  23:02  

Go to ice cream flavor. milk, almond fudge guy love it. So you have a sandwich named after you the Christie rose. Okay, build that sandwich for me what’s on it? Hmm,

Unknown Speaker  23:15  

sourdough bread, avocado mail. turkey breasts that has no chemicals and has no prebiotics and like chemical free Turkey, avocado, bacon, tomato,

Unknown Speaker  23:31  

and candy. Love it. Making beautiful Jaja for your charity and organization like to give your time or money to

Unknown Speaker  23:42  

urban business support.

Unknown Speaker  23:43  

Okay, beautiful. Last question. You can elaborate on this one a little bit. But what is the best decade of music 60s 70s 80s or 90s?

Unknown Speaker  23:58  

Probably 80s 80s Me

Unknown Speaker  24:00  

too. I love the big hair. Don’t you so much happened in the 80s graduated in 1990. So it was like, like that was my decade of growing up and it truly was a decade a decade and so it was just like oh for everything.

Unknown Speaker  24:13  

Jackson being I mean I’m sorry. What else do I need to

Unknown Speaker  24:17  

go in? The thing is you had Michael you had all these one? namers like Michael Madonna Prince, right, huge. And then you had the invasions of like you too and Duran Duran and men at work and you know, then you had to come up in sub rap, right with Run DMC and Beastie Boys and then your big hair. Don’t care your glam bands. Ever. Yes. You got everything in that decade. And that’s what that’s why I always say if I could take a time machine just to hang out for a day it’d be like the 80s probably like 1986 or something, you know, it’s beautiful. So how can we find you Miss Christine?

Unknown Speaker  24:51  

You can find me at www dot coach pristine rose.com Okay, and at www dot CEO accel.com.

Unknown Speaker  25:05  

Okay, gotcha. And so, I know that this might not drop before Christine’s mastermind, but I’m sure she’ll have other ones going forward or you everybody out there will have gotten an email from my team regarding this. But on October 12, you have the CEO mastermind experience, experience eight ways to increase value in your business. I know it’s happening October 12. At 22. Can you tell us a little bit about what’s going on there?

Unknown Speaker  25:31  

Yeah, so this is exciting. We’re gonna bring CEOs from across the country on to a virtual meeting for some networking time, but also for addressing, what is it that increases the value of your company in terms of like, what’s your valuation now? And how do we raise up by 71%? Let’s talk about it.

Unknown Speaker  25:57  

I love that. I love it. And you have the skills that help them give them that that’s beautiful. And also squad work. And she’s written this fantastic book we’re going to talk about here, Life Beyond hashtag me to creating a safer world for our mothers, daughters, sisters. And fob in France fence. Yeah. So tell us a little bit about the book you offer. If you’re watching on video, shoot their beautiful selfies holding up the book. But tell us a little bit about that, please.

Unknown Speaker  26:25  

No, I’m really excited about this book. It isn’t like my sob story. It’s not about that. It’s a coaching book. I’m a coach. It’s a coaching book. We are wired in mired in this problem of half the world having challenges with violence and, and nobody taking responsibility for it. So we, you know, we call the me to movement, a response to people sharing what they’ve been through that either in the workplace or other workplaces. And we don’t know. Okay, how do we get there? You know, what really happened? How do we get there? And how do we get out of that so that we have a world that safe for everyone? You know, right now, the number that one in five students that go to female students that go to college and universities going to leave having been a rape victim, it’s a legit, legit statistic. So reading the book, working through there’s, there’s questions at the end of every chapter. There’s a lot of stuff for business owners in here about how to take responsibility to create safety in your culture, beautiful, and how to support change in the marketplace. And there have been some changes, so that’s good. But the pandemic was devastating to females, in so many ways. So I actually did a new revised edition, the book was recognized as 2021 award winning finalists for Top New nonfiction by the International Book Awards, and I highly recommend people

Unknown Speaker  28:08  

pick it up. Gotcha. All right. In squad, what I’m going to do is I’m going to do a free book giveaway. Anyone that puts Christie rose just put that in any responses on any social, I don’t care if it’s Pinterest, I don’t care. If it’s Instagram, Facebook, LinkedIn, you know, it puts that I’m gonna have I’m gonna I’m gonna purchase a book and my friend Christina is going to sign it and send it out to she’s also has a first edition book that she’s going to just I’m blessed that she’s going to give that away. So if any, whoever puts in first edition into any of the social, I’ll make sure that you get that book signed by my good friend Christie, as well. And one more thing that we need to cover here, the CEO accelerator or the CEO accelerator is CEO, Excel, Excel. Okay. And talk to us a little bit about that.

Unknown Speaker  29:00  

I’m super excited to be offering a new company and membership organization for CEOs with million plus revenues. Okay. And don’t worry if you’re not at a million yet, because 10% of the revenue from this business is going to mentor minority and women business owners to help them get to a million, okay, because less than 4% of female business owners hit a million revenue. So CEO, Excel is a membership for CEOs where they can connect with each other. Imagine LinkedIn with no spamming, no unwanted connection requests and a way to direct message to anybody in there because you have to be interviewed to be in the organization. You have to be a membership yet. You can’t just join you have to be interviewed. And then you’re getting coaching value builder platform from John Warrillow. Can Consulting and a mastermind group where He takes 90 minutes and you’re in the hot seat every month. So it’s like bringing the best of three different things together into one.

Unknown Speaker  30:08  

Yeah. I absolutely love that. And Christine, please give me one last salad and leave us with one last Knowledge Nugget we can internalize take action on it just in level up with.

Unknown Speaker  30:25  

For a general audience, what I would say is let your advanced worrying, become advanced thinking and planning. Oh my gosh, that’s from Winston Churchill.

Unknown Speaker  30:41  

The band’s thinking and planning while,

Unknown Speaker  30:44  

you know, stop worrying and start thinking and planning.

Unknown Speaker  30:47  

I love it. You know, because I always throw out the I’ve heard I’ve seen this school before, and I can’t believe I don’t use it more. But you know, when Mark Twain said, you know, there were so many things I worried about, like maybe none of them actually happened. You know, I’m paraphrasing there. Absolutely. But squad, we’ve just had a fun, fun conversation, and a ton of knowledge nuggets, and basically a masterclass from my good friend, Christine Rose, who grew up, you know, in abusive home, you know, we didn’t take deep in that it’s, that’s not what we’re here to do here at time to shine today. But, you know, she got through it by setting high standards, and she began her lifelong learning life. Fantastic, you know, she’ll tell you that a coach is going to provide an impactful experience, make it a transformative experience, a great coach shows up, you know, a great coach does not really have the answers, they might, but they’re not going to tell you that they’re going to connect you with the right questions. And remember, you know, the problem or whatever you’re dealing with is inside you. You also have the answers there, that so someone like my good friend Christine can get out of you. She’s gonna have you go deeper, deeper, deeper, you know, what’s beyond that she’s gonna have you keep unpacking that like an onion, you know, to get down to the root of things. You know, ask your coach, what is your ROI going to be whether you’re being coached about money, or about emotions, ask them with the coach really sees the track with you getting there, you know, she believes in connecting with her clients creating that safe space, like a cat cocoon, so you can bloom into that beautiful butterfly. And you can only do that with trust. And Christina is just planting trees that she’s never going to sit in the shade. And I love love, love being you know, collaborating and being connected to someone like Christine you know, if you’re a business leader or CEO out there, and you’re like, Man, I’m losing people. Let me put you in touch with Christine because she’s got to make sure your culture is on point. You know, she wants you to take 100% responsibility to for your future. And if you are stuck in something like my good friend Leah Woodford would say get your asking here. Ask the right people. You know, she’s gonna remember to someone that loved God, love people. You know, she’s going to she creates this fantastic map knowing that it’s changing, that she levels up her bucket list, she levels up her contributions, she’s always again goes back to learning. She’s always learning. She reminds us from listen to church, I’m gonna paraphrase a little bit on this. But let advance worrying. Become your advanced thinking and planning. So we’re in you can’t do shit about excuse my language. But if you can think and you can align yourself with someone like Christine, that will help you get past those worries and bring out the best in you can please let me make a warm introduction. Christine levels up her house. She levels up her well. She’s humble. Yes, she’s hungry. She’s earned a varsity letter here. Time to shine today. Thank you so much for coming out. Christina Absolutely. Love your guts.

Unknown Speaker  33:37  

Thank you so much. God, it’s been my great pleasure.

Unknown Speaker  33:40  

Yay. I’ll chat soon. Bye now. Hey, thanks so much for listening to this episode of time to shine today podcast. proudly brought to you by Southern New Jersey real estate real estate excellence who can be reached at 5612497 to six six and online at www dot Sutter in nugent.com. If you’re a business owner or professional who would like to be interviewed on time to shine today, please visit time to shine today.com Flash guest. If you liked this episode, please subscribe on Apple podcasts, Google podcasts, Stitcher, Spotify, I Heart Radio or wherever you get your podcasts. There’s a link in the show notes to our website. Also there you will see a recommended resources. We hope that you will support our show by supporting them. If you like where you’ve been listening to it’d be great if you could just give us a five star rating and tell your friends how to subscribe while you’re at it. I’m your host Scott Ferguson. And until next time, let’s level up it’s our time to shine


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