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Hi, this is Anne home with Ann home dotnet. And if you really want to learn how to level up your life, you should be listening to the time to shine today podcast. But with my good friend Scott Ferguson,

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time to shine today varsity squad into Scott Ferguson and we’re at Episode 164 with my really good friend, U of M fan, university Michigan fan, but that’s okay being me being a smarty forgiver for the next 25 minutes or so. But make sure you break out your notebooks, because my good friend and home is going to help you enhance your leadership and communication skills. She’s going to remind us to stay free spirited, she’s going to talk a lot about self awareness and how to use that to level up your life the right way. So without further ado, here’s my really, really good friend at home. Let’s level up.

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Time to shine to the varsity squad. It is Scott Ferguson and I got me a fellow Midwesterner here I’m in them in South Florida, and she’s in the Twin Cities, they’re in Minnesota, but we’re both from the mitten. We’re both from Michigan, and I love my Michigan people even though she’s a U of M fan, and I’m a spotty but we’ll get along here for the next 2030 minutes. I have a really good friend and home from Ann home dotnet and is a professional certified coach specializing in executive career by the way of focusing on self awareness and mental fitness. She’s a Myers Briggs Type Indicator, steps one and two certified and that’s what she’s known with her extensive experience. She also has 25 years of experience in applied Brain Sciences I can’t wait to get in the neuroscience of this conversation. using her hands on experience to help her coaching clients stay focused and energized given the demands of the 21st century, workplace. She’s also collaborating on a book which we’ll touch base on towards the end of the interview that will be coming out in 2021. So and please, I’m so grateful that you’re here. Come on, introduce yourself the time to shine today varsity squad. But first, what is your favorite color? And why?

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That’s an easy, easy answer. It’s blue and

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white. Why is it blue man? Well,

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okay, so Truthfully, I said blue because I’m a Wolverine machine Wolverine Go Blue. But I actually prefer orange of all colors. Orange, because there’s a lot of power in it. Okay, and a lot of warmth in it. So, um, that’s, that would probably be my real answer. But for you today, it’s no blue,

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no blue, I love it.

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Definitely not green.

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So let’s get to the origins of and I know that you kind of grew up in the mitten. We were there at the same time. Let’s get the origins and then we have how we leveled up to an home dotnet.

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Okay, so my background is I worked for 25 years as a speech pathologist. So I went to University of Michigan, for my undergrad and my master’s degree, and I worked with brain injury. So and I did that for 25 years. And why that is significant is because I worked with the brain sort of in the trenches. So I worked with individuals who had were very, very low, you know, nearly in coma, if not coma, and I worked with individuals who are trying to recapture their life after brain trauma. And so those, I saw a wide range of human behavior, and was able to apply brain science in order to help individuals move along. So and move toward toward recovery toward a meaningful life. So from there, I got, I don’t want to say this, well, I’m just gonna say straight up. The paperwork got to me to be truthful, the paperwork became more and more heavy, more and more documentation, more and more time spent on the computer, and I wasn’t having fun anymore. So I decided, well, what else could I do that would be interesting and would help people uncover the potential. And 12 years ago, I went into coaching. So that’s sort of was my journey from a previous work to the work I do today.

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Love it. So do you think that when you went into we’ll call it private practice for yourself with coaching? Or do you feel less handcuffed because there’s not as much kind of like the paperwork and you’re able to really delve deep into your clients?

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You know, it’s, it’s interesting. Yes, I would say absolutely. Because I didn’t have to do the kind of paperwork I had to do in the medical setting. I was absolutely left to be a little bit freer to explore. But there were a lot of challenges that I didn’t anticipate when I went from that setting, to coaching and the biggest one was letting go of this idea that I was an expert because when you are a speaker pathologist you’re working with brain injury, you’re in healthcare. They’re asking you, what do we need to do here? What’s the next step? What do you do? What do you do? You lead a lot of this trajectory as far as what you were going to do with this client. But I had to really let go of that when I went into coaching, because now you’re really tapping into people’s internal wisdom. And so asking broader questions, listening a little bit more carefully, and letting go of this idea of expertise, and then coming back and recapturing expertise, and putting it in its right place when you work as a coach. So I threw expertise out the window, and then realized I had to bring a little bit back. But that was probably the biggest adjustment is from that even though I was left free, to not have to worry about paperwork.

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So you put in the time at school, you worked in kind of the basically getting people rewired and ready to go after brain injuries. Possibly. I heard that right. But what

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is that?

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What does your family think about you going into private practice, when you kind of went to school for this? And we’re working with that? What was their take on that? Well,

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so for instance, my mother said, all those years that you spent, right, and my husband called it my experiment, and my hobby. That was actually that was hard. And so you there’s that kind of career change, a does require a little bit of confidence in yourself that you can make that make that switch. I remember the day that I decided not to renew my speech pathology license, where I thought, you know, I’m not going to go back to that. I think I’m, I think I’m going this way now. But there was there was some questions for sure. And perhaps a little bit of scoffing? Not that

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I bet and that’s, that’s now that it’s like you, you don’t seem like an egotistical person, that kind of insight can be like, look at me, though I, you know, push through, I failed forward when I needed to. And fantastic. So what do you think makes a great coach?

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Ah, boy, I think there’s, there’s a combination here. So when I first went into coaching, there was a heavy, heavy emphasis, emphasis on powerful questions, and all of that. And I think those are really key, those powerful questions, those, those explorations that you do with a client so that they understand who they are, and how they think, and all of that. But I also think you want to bring in some information and knowledge to help an individual consider it in order that they can streamline the coaching process. So for instance, The MBTI is one way a person can jumpstart their coaching journey by way of trying to understand sort of where they, where the where they are at ground level. So you know, fundamentally, this is probably where you are, and this is your opportunity to grow from here. So bringing that in, versus trying to ask powerful questions that it’s going to get somebody to understand, for instance, oh, I really love big ideas and patterns. And, you know, but sometimes I don’t pay attention to details, well, if you can just call that out and say, Does this sound like you, then you can jumpstart and move on with the journey of it? So

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why MBTI? And now the disc or any of the other

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guys out there? Yeah. So that’s a really, really good question. While using MBTI. I also use a an instrument called type coach, which is also a young instrument. I, I like these instruments, if they’re used properly, and a lot of times they’re not people say, you know, here, this is my type, and then they put themselves in a box and they say, Well, I get Oh, I can’t do details, because I’m an ENFP. You know, I’m going to be late because I’m a P, you know, you don’t use it as an excuse to use

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as a

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victim. Yeah, yeah. So it’s a developmental model. So you’re, you’re you’re wanting to become grounded in your, your fundamental gifts. And then you also want to find areas of development and improvement and you’re expected to develop so it’s the because it’s a developmental model. Actually, I’m reading a new book that was just came out by Dr. Dario Nardi, and he’s been, he is talking exactly about developmental pads for each of the types and ways to get at it and what are the most likely routes, you know, these are things that you prescribe to somebody that you

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offer to them. for consideration, it also keeps them from making excuses on what they’re lacking. And because a lot of people like you, I have a certain program that I use for personality traits and whatnot. But a lot of people like, well, I’m just low here. Well, that’s why I’m here to help you pass through that week is, that’s awesome. So then, if you don’t mind sharing, when you’re bringing somebody in maybe the discovery period, or you’re actually they’ve hired you, what kind of secret sauce do you use to maybe help them find their blind spots?

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Oh, okay. So a lot of this is around asking really good questions. Because this is this is something I can bring in my brain injury experienced to explain this. So self awareness is not something that is peeled back. And Aha, here we are, this is the truth. Self Awareness comes in layers. So for instance, I’ll use a brain injury example just to illustrate this. But you could get somebody in the hospital, come into my office, you know, get me out of here, I got to go back to work. Well, okay, so you got a bit of a memory problems. So we’ve got to work on that, first, I don’t have a memory problem. And then maybe two or three days later, they come in, and they say they have a memory problem. But they don’t understand the deep implications of what that actually means they can list it. So for instance, if somebody has a blind spot, you know, taking it out of brain injury, and just to normal, you know, development. A person says, Yeah, I tend to be late. That is a very cursory level of self awareness. The next thing is, how do how does that how does that impact my life in the life of others? That’s a whole nother level of self awareness. And so to get there, you don’t jump from? Oh, yeah, I tend to be late to, this has a huge impact on my life. And then you got to get to level where you actually care about it. Because you might say, yeah, it has an impact. But you know, what, that’s just my flaw. That’s where it’s gonna be. Right? You know, so you’ve got to get to these these layers of self awareness, that allow for you to feel the impact and body the impact, and then decide it’s worth your time to change.

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Love that. That is one of the best explanations I’ve ever heard about self awareness, and how you can really level that area up. So let’s, let’s piggyback on that last question. If you’re, you bring somebody in, is there any good question that you wish they would ask you, but never do? Well,

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that’s a really good question. Usually, usually, when the when they when they come in, they always kind of want to know what’s going on, what’s it going to look like? And, you know, how much is it going to cost? And those kinds of practical questions. I just, that’s a really good, I get

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that all the time. I want them to ask me. What do you want from me? Say that as the person I wish that they would, because they’re coming to you saying you’re the magic pill? You know? Yeah, the work what you just explained about self awareness, there’s a, what we say here, time to shine today’s inch by inch, it’s a cinch by the yard. It’s hard. It’s like, there’s little parts of self awareness is broke down to those little parts. But yes, you know, I know if I hire chubby, like, what am I gonna have to do? And you know, it’s, you know, what, expecting from me, which I wish they weren’t? Because a lot of times that people you probably take on? Yeah, how you go, you know, I’m saying no leaders and stuff like that, they won’t step back and ask that.

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But yeah, well, and you know, the thing is, too, is that many of the things that we do are a matter of habit. So, so this is where this mental fitness piece comes in, in the work that I do is, so you could get those aha moments, you can say, Oh, you know, gosh, I mean, I got to start working on this, or I’m restless, and I keep jumping from thing to thing. But you have to have some way to to make those changes. And so you have to be able to settle your mind down enough and create muscles in the other direction. Yeah, I use this thing called positive intelligence, which I use as sort of a supplement to the work that I do. Because you have to support the possibility that you can create these new brain pathways, but you’ve been doing this stuff for a long, long time. So and part of self awareness, or part of lack of self awareness is around the defensiveness for why you do certain things, you know, like, my mother, who’s a very detail oriented person would say, Ah, yes, that yes, that and I’d say it doesn’t matter. It doesn’t matter. But maybe it does. Maybe it doesn’t matter. But if you’re defensive and you’re feeling attacked, right, you’re never gonna get to the level so you got to you have to have multiple pieces coming together.

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Love it. So if I’m at a networking event, which we’re allowed to do here in South Florida, pretty much press and flash meeting people. Yeah. What kind of things? Might someone be saying to me that would make them a great referral contact or connection for him?

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Um, so I would say, so look, I want to make sure that I have the question straight. So if you were in a networking event, and you said, aha, I know, this person who could help you What, what, what, what kind of person would be saying that? Is that what?

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Yeah, you know what I’m listening for? Because I love to connect people. That’s what we do. We’re a hub here at time to shine today. Yep,

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yep. So you would be listening for individuals who are looking to enhance leadership communication, team building, but I also would emphasize individuals who are really wanting to understand at a very deep level, their strengths, their blind spots, the implications of those, they’re motivated to take it to the next level. Those are the individuals who I would be working with. So that awareness piece is huge.

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Yes, yeah. So let’s get in our DeLorean with Marty McFly. remember him from Back to the Future?

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Oh, yeah, let’s

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get our DeLorean. Let’s go back to the 22 year old and what kind of knowledge nuggets so you drop it on her. We call them knowledge nuggets here at Tom Chen today, knowledge nuggets. You drop it on her to help her maybe, maybe shorten the learning curve and level up and blast through.

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Okay, so if I if I was stuck in my 22 year old self,

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I’m back in visited her What? Yep,

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yep. Yep, I would say your free spiritedness is an excellent part of who you are. Under saw understand. There’s also a downside to that or a flip side. And if you could recognize the difference, if you could slow your brain down enough to be able to recognize the difference. You wouldn’t have to backpedal. make excuses zig and zag just make up for something that you might have been able to do differently and save yourself a lot of trouble

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if you’ve listened.

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Oh, probably not.

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I wouldn’t either. But I would have probably the same thing that what you’re saying.

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Ah,

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so how do you want your dash remembered in that little mark in between your incarnation date in your expiration date? How do you want an Holmes dash remember,

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I love that. I would like to be remembered remembered as somebody who really contributed to the coaching conversation around self awareness and what to do about it. Because I can, you know, I went, I’ve also raised three children, they’re in their 20s, and 30s. And everything that I’ve done from my work and brain injury, to my parenting, to my interactions with the Friends of my children, to my work and coaching has been about trying to help people understand who they are strengths and blind spots, try to make it as fun as possible to uncover their potential to uncover their self awareness to reach a new height. That’s how I want to be remembered is all the people I’ve touched in that way.

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Just a true go giver that you are thank you so much for saying that. So let’s take out our cell phone, tablets, computers, anything electronic, what’s three things that and can’t live without?

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Ah, okay. I can’t live without my family. Love it. my three children, my husband, and my, you know, my mom and nieces, nephews. So my family. I can’t live without nature. Beautiful. Trees, water. Can’t live without nature. And I can’t live without watermelon. Watermelon. That’s awesome.

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I’ve never heard that before. But if you like the watermelon, I’m always my third one was always beat.

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So Oh, yeah, a watermelon. I

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can’t love it. I love it. And what’s your definition of a life well lived.

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A life well lived is one in which you both give and receive because I think sometimes we think that the only thing we can do is give. But when you receive graciously, you’re actually giving also.

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So thank you for saying that. That law of receptivity. A lot of people forget about that. Yeah, that’s fantastic. Thank you for saying that. So as we level or as we wind things down just a little bit here in I have my leveling up lightning round you and I can talk an hour. Yep, last on each one of these questions. Have you got five seconds? Okay, okay, so you’re on the spot. No, they’re super easy. You can answer in five seconds. No explanation. Like, like I find it funny.

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Okay, all right, I’m ready for this.

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Ready? Let’s level up. All right, what’s

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the best leveling up advice you’ve ever received?

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I’ve second I have a learn.

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There you go. share one of your personal habits that contributes to your success.

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Walking. Okay,

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love that. Not the book that you’re writing, not the book that you’re reading or the flavor of the month. If I’m in my doldrums, and I’m not feeling it. Say Fergie. Here’s the book. I want you to read it.

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Wow, that’s a man I say.

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Peter the Great. Okay. Okay, fair enough. What? When you’re texting? What’s your most commonly used emoji?

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Uh, the lately the green virus, okay.

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Love it. So not wisdom really, physically in you’re allowed to still learn in wisdom and everything physically? What age would you stay for the rest of your life?

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Physically? Ah, I would say 30

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There you go. I love it. I love 3232 that was such a magnificent time for me. What’s your favorite charity and organization like to give your time and or money to?

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Anything that has to do with animals? Love Oh, World Wildlife Fund.

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Yay. So last question a little bit harder. And you can actually explain this one. But what is the best decade of music? 60s 70s 80s or 90s?

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I already know that anytime with the Beatles. So that would be the 60s and 60s. Yes. Uh huh.

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Awesome. Awesome. So and

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what? How can we find you,

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you can go to my website and home dotnet. And I do offer free consultation. So if individuals want to explore both self awareness or this idea of mental fitness, they can book a free consultation, they can I actually have several podcasts, because I’ve been on several of them. I’m very excited to be on yours. And so I’m glad I can add that. blogs. So I got a lot of information on my website, as well as an opportunity to connect. So at home dotnet, you can find me on LinkedIn, and Twitter. I only retweet it if I have read it. That’s my big moniker. If I don’t read it,

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don’t read it. Love. That’s a golden thread right there. So tell us a little bit about this book.

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Okay, so this book that I’m writing, I’m writing it with Dr. Jane Casey, and we’re writing it about brain bandwidth. So what what that means is, so we were working on a project with education leader leaders, Jane is very, she’s an MBTI. Expert. And we do a lot of work together. Psychological type, we’d like to use the term psychological type, because it encompasses other instruments. Anyway, so she and I were doing some work for Minnesota, Minnesota State Colleges and Universities. And we had done it two years prior to that. And then we came on to the project again, and what we found was that these individuals, were having a really hard time just making simple appointments, whereas two years before that they weren’t having any problems. And what we discovered is that people were stretched beyond their bandwidth in multiple arenas and multiple, multiple spheres. So what we did was we came up with an instrument to try to get at that, you know, how are people fueling themselves? How are they focusing? How are they filtering information, so they can maximize bandwidth. And we actually came up with a survey, and you’re going to like this part, we went to a statistician who’s a smarty go, there you go. And, yeah, and he helped us out with, you know, looking at this statistically, to see if what we were looking at actually was measuring what we hoped it was measuring. So this project in the making, was the survey. And then we were asked to write a book. This is a book that’s for the K through 12. Education, people, but it’s, it’s Jane has authored 20 books already. So I, I think I’m going to get it done because I’m with somebody who actually gets it done. But so it’s about brain and bandwidth. So how are you? How are you feeling your brain? How are you filtering the things around you? How are you focusing? And how is your organization supporting these habits? What’s

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an image gonna be?

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We have a working title.

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Not sure what was like when you get up? Yeah,

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yeah. I’d have to go back at the contract and look because I think we fiddled around with it a few times. I

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love it. Love it. squad you’ve just been really gifted a free masterclass for my good friend and fellow Michigander Yes, at home, you know, she’s going to use MBTI method to find out where you’re at at ground level and help you level up from there. She also use the type form or type coach as well. She reminds us to be grounded in our fundamental gifts while leveling up the areas where you are weak. And the way you can do that is hire someone like Anne, you know, she’s gonna remind us that self awareness, which we talked a lot about comes to us comes in layers, you know, you need to realize how it impacts you and others and care about it to really level up and you have a solid coach like, and she’s going to help you walk through that path. You know, she’s going to enhance leadership and communication and understand at a deep level of their weaknesses. So that’s something and, you know, I wrote so fast, I have a whole page of notes and I’m going off for this, you know, she, she would remind her younger self to stay spirited and free spirited. But keep it in check and recognize the difference of what is working what’s not. So if you’re younger out there, and you’re really looking to level up, be relaxed, be free spirited, but keep it in check. Don’t let the ego take over. But really, you know, check and bounces. Like we’d like to say, you know, she wants to be remembered. And she is she’s a living legacy right now that she contributes to the conversation around self awareness. And she also lastly reminded us to not only give but be open to receptivity, which we talk a lot about that here time to shine today because we’re all go givers, but we want to be open to receiving an answer is and I’m open to receiving this fantastic masterclass and is humble, hungry, she levels up her house, she levels up her wealth. The only thing wrong with her is she’s a huge fan. But I’ll let her slide just for today. Thank you. So in all seriousness, and thank you so so much for coming out. I can’t wait to get my hands on one of those books. And I’m going to give a free copy of Anne’s book out signed by and when it does come out. So all you have to do is post in either the LinkedIn post for an which is still might take a minute, but I’ll make sure we keep a good note because it’s not coming out till next year. But their podcasts will drop away before the books out. But I’ll make sure and sends out a free copy which I’ll purchase and have or send out to you by posting either LinkedIn or the time to shine today Facebook page and thank you so so much. I hope to be able to collaborate with you in the future and bring you back.

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Yeah, it was really a lot of fun. It was wonderful. Have a great day.

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You too. Hey, thanks so much for listening to this episode of time to shine today podcast. Proudly brought to you by Southern Nugent real estate real estate excellence who can be reached at 561-249-7266 and online at www dot Sutter and nugent.com. If you’re a business owner or professional who would like to be interviewed on time to shine today, please visit time to shine today.com slash guest. If you liked this episode, please subscribe on Apple podcasts, Google podcasts, Stitcher, Spotify, I Heart Radio or wherever you get your podcasts. There’s a link in the show notes to our website. Also there you will see a recommended resources. We hope that you will support our show by supporting them. If you like what you have been listening to, it’d be great if you could just give us a five star rating and tell your friends to subscribe while you’re at it. I’m your host Scott Ferguson. And until next time, let’s level up. It’s our time to shine.

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