Andy Andrews is a New York Times bestselling author of the Noticer series with 26 books translated into 40 languages and more than 20 million copies sold. His work includes The Traveler’s Gift, named by Good Morning America as one of the five books you should read in your lifetime, and The Bottom of the Pool, recognized by Forbes as essential reading for entrepreneurs. Andy has spoken at the request of four U.S. Presidents, advised U.S. Special Operations Command for eight years, and recently delivered a live course on critical thinking to senior military leaders at the U.S. Naval War College. Zig Ziglar called him the best speaker he had ever seen, and the New York Times has described Andy Andrews as one of the most influential people in America.
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Speech Transcript
Andy Andrews: [00:00:00] Hey, this is Andy Andrews, the author of The Traveler’s Gift, and if you really wanna learn how to level up your life, you should be listening to the Time to Shine Today podcast, my good friend Scott Ferguson. Let’s level up.
Introduction: Are you ready to level up? Do you wish to live a life of options and not obligations?
You’ve come to the right place? Thank you for stopping on by to hear knowledge nuggets from Coach Fergie and his top tier guest. To help you lean into your ultimate human potential. Now, let’s level up with Coach Burkey.
L. Scott Ferguson (Coach Fergie): Hey, time to Shine today, podcast Varsity Squad. Welcome back to another powerful edition of Time to Shine Today podcast. I’m your host, coach Fergie. Blessed to be your gap coach, specialize in peak performance mental conditioning, working with business leaders, entrepreneurs, entertainers, athletes, C-suite, and students to help them bridge their success gap. <<READ MORE>>
Introduction: Are you ready to level up? Do you wish to live a life of options and not obligations?
You’ve come to the right place? Thank you for stopping on by to hear knowledge nuggets from Coach Fergie and his top tier guest. To help you lean into your ultimate human potential. Now, let’s level up with Coach Burkey.
L. Scott Ferguson (Coach Fergie): Hey, time to Shine today, podcast Varsity Squad. Welcome back to another powerful edition of Time to Shine Today podcast. I’m your host, coach Fergie. Blessed to be your gap coach, specialize in peak performance mental conditioning, working with business leaders, entrepreneurs, entertainers, athletes, C-suite, and students to help them bridge their success gap. <<READ MORE>>
To live a life of options and not obligations on this platform, we are stoked to bring you high performers who are not just chasing and entertaining success, but redefining it through, providing above and beyond service. Thank you squad for making us the top [00:01:00] 2% podcast globally, and that’s according to listen notes.
So thank you so much for listening in and providing content to us and ideas and whatnot. A really quick coaching knowledge nugget that I want to go through with you out there squad, but there’s a power most people never tap into ’cause there are distracted too emotional or too locked into their own stories to even see it.
It’s the power of noticing. Noticing isn’t passive. It’s not sitting back and hoping clarity magically shows up. It’s a discipline, it’s a weapon. It’s training your mind to detach from the noise, strip away the drama and actually see what’s real. Most people don’t fail because they can’t do the work. They fail because they miss the small tells.
The patterns, the opportunities, the habits that are creeping in. The warning signs, the moments that would change everything if they just paid attention. I had a coaching client recently, absolutely beast of a human. He plays. For the NFL, I’ll just say that, but he kept getting stuck in the same loop Every session.
You told me the story of why things weren’t changing, and finally I hit him with it. You’re telling me everything you feel, but you’re not noticing anything you’re doing. [00:02:00] Once he slowed down, detached from the emotion and started noticing the real data of his life, his decisions, his habits, his tone, his body language, the people he was letting influence him, everything shifted.
Not because he worked harder, but because he saw clearer. When you truly notice you gain leverage. You gain control. You go from reacting to responding. You stop being a passenger and you take the darn wheel. So here’s today’s challenge for you. Varsity Squad. Don’t just go through your day. Notice your day.
Notice your patterns. Notice the moments where you check out or where you rise up. Notice the opportunities hiding in plain sight because your mindset was too loud to see them yesterday. Your next level of your life rarely requires more force. It requires more awareness. And awareness is where it starts noticing and talk about.
Now, use that squad noticing because. The, I consider him a good friend and I just met him five minutes ago. Someone that had a huge impact on my life. He wrote a book called The Noticer, which was one of the my top five books that sits on my my bookshelf. And I’m bringing you a legend whose fingerprints are all over modern [00:03:00] personal development, world leadership, elite performance, and the very way we think this is a man whose words have reshaped families, corporations, military strategy.
Small businesses, and yes, millions of lives across 40 languages and more than 20 million million books sold. I’m talking about Andy Andrews. Andy’s isn’t just an author, he’s the Mind behind the Noticers series. The writer who delivered the Modern Day Classic, the Traveler Gift, that is my biggest gifted book.
Did I ever give out a book? Good Morning America called One of the Five Books You Should Read in Your Lifetime, not this year in Your Lifetime. I should read it today. His book, the Bottom of the Pool, is named by Forbes, is one of the seven books every entrepreneur should entrepreneur should read and book authority declared the little things the best.
Work life balance book of all time. His words have reached for US presidents, the United States Congress, and for eight years he served as an advisor to the US Special Operations Command. My brothern out there recently, he was tapped to deliver a live multi-service course and critical thinking for leaders of the Army, air [00:04:00] Force, space Force, Marines, coast Guard, and command leaders from 16 Allied Nations.
There are levels to this game and Andy sits in a strategic territory. Very few touch. Zig Ziglar, the man himself said Andy Andrews is the best speaker he’s ever seen, and that is huge. And he is also a funny Christian comedian, so he likes to really get after it. So Andy, thank you so much for coming on.
Please introduce yourself to the Time to Shine Today Podcast Varsity Squad. But first, real quick, what’s your favorite color and why?
Andy Andrews: My favorite color, Scott. Is, man, I got several favorite colors, I think, but my favorite color. It is probably red.
L. Scott Ferguson (Coach Fergie): Red. Very good.
Andy Andrews: Yeah. Yeah. It’s the color of candied apples.
It’s the colors of cars I don’t drive.
L. Scott Ferguson (Coach Fergie): Right.
Andy Andrews: It’s I think it red seems happy to me. Red seems passionate to me. And so red always attracts my attention.
L. Scott Ferguson (Coach Fergie): Roger that. I. Your background yourself. Going back to before, is there [00:05:00] any of, ponder, David, ponder in you?
Anything that you might’ve lived through? ’cause it seems so real. Like we, we talked off mic about me, writing my parable, if you will. Hero story. A lot of it’s me, which I told you that. Is there any a ponder in you from before? Oh
Andy Andrews: yeah. Yeah. A lot of it, and as at the first of the Noticer story, that first.
Chapter is totally true. My parents died when I was 19 and my mom died of cancer. My dad was killed in a car accident, and so crazy time, as you can imagine. But I’ve always had the ability to take a bad situation and. Make it worse. And boy, I did and things got really rough and I lived for a couple of years under a pier on the Gulf Coast and in and out of people’s garages in the winter time.
Really?
L. Scott Ferguson (Coach Fergie): You did
Andy Andrews: that? Yeah. It was a crazy time. And so those were, that was, and this was, this was before internet. Before cell phones. And so a lot of [00:06:00] people, I had left school and I left. I didn’t quit. You know when you quit, you sign stuff and you tell people, I just left
L. Scott Ferguson (Coach Fergie): you
Andy Andrews: bail off.
L. Scott Ferguson (Coach Fergie): Right.
Andy Andrews: And so I was in college at the time and when I left, people kinda went nuts and, friends and family members. My parents were the only two people. ’cause I left school right before my mom died. And my parents were the only people that were like, okay, just. You gotta do something, what are you gonna do?
And my dad was always the kind who was like, if you end up digging ditches, just dig good ones. I’ll be proud of you. I’ll bring my friends to show the ditches. My boy Doug, love that. And but the other people in my life. Were not quite so supporting. I had friends whose parents forbid them to be around me because that was a bad example, having left college and so when I did end up, people were like, you’re gonna ruin your life.
And so at the [00:07:00] point I ended up. Under a peer. I didn’t want to call anybody and go, Hey you were right. I’ve ruined my life and so can you help me here? I’m, I just didn’t tell anybody.
L. Scott Ferguson (Coach Fergie): Okay.
Andy Andrews: And so I just toughed it out on the Gulf Coast and met this old guy late one night under my pier, and we called him the Noticer.
We, then we called him Jones. But he said, I say Just
L. Scott Ferguson (Coach Fergie): Jones. Just Jones?
Andy Andrews: Yeah. Just Jones? No, Mr. Jones. Just Jones. And he would say. He would say, when God passed out talents, I didn’t get the cool ones. I can’t run fast. I can’t sing great. But I noticed little things that make a big difference in people’s lives.
And so this is the guy who told me the truth about myself during the toughest time at that point in my life.
L. Scott Ferguson (Coach Fergie): It, how receptive were you to it in that moment? ’cause you were still either a late teenager or early twenties, right?
Andy Andrews: Yeah and I was. I think about that. That’s a good question.
’cause I was not overly receptive. I was just desperate.
L. Scott Ferguson (Coach Fergie): Right. Neither was the [00:08:00] character in the book either, Andy, like he wasn’t at first. Okay.
Andy Andrews: And I was just in a situation where this old man was the only guy paying any attention to me at all. And as. As angry as I was.
And that’s a curious thing ’cause people ask me, a lot of times they say, when you were living under the pier, were you sad? No, I wasn’t sad. Were you depressed? No, not really. I was just mad. I was angry all the time. And if you said at what I’d say kinda everything, I was mad at my dad for not wearing a seatbelt.
Mad at my mom for whatever she did to get cancer. Sure. I was mad at God for letting it all happen. I, I was just mad.
L. Scott Ferguson (Coach Fergie): Right.
Andy Andrews: And so he really took me and shaped me and one of the things he did was started me reading I had never really been that much of a reader. I was more of a sports illustrated field and stream kinda guy right there with you.
Yeah. And so he got me started reading biographies and. I eventually read over 200 of [00:09:00] ’em there before venturing out. Sure. And in those 200 biographies, I found seven things that all these people had in common. And I didn’t even really know what to call ’em at the time. I’d just call ’em things.
I, I knew they weren’t. Habits. I knew they weren’t characteristics, they weren’t ideas, they weren’t even mine. These were just things I recognized and identified. But it was curious to me that it seemed that two or three of ’em were always actively used by these people. Now there were seven. When you read 200 biographies, that’s a pretty broad stroke to carry.
But when I would see. Two or three evident in their lives, and then two or three evident in somebody else’s life. I got the idea that I wouldn’t finding anybody that I knew that had all seven or wait a minute, I wouldn’t find anybody that knew they had all seven
L. Scott Ferguson (Coach Fergie): Roger that
Andy Andrews: they all [00:10:00] had all seven.
It was just that, I’m not sure that. All of these people had identified all seven. They just kinda naturally acclimated themselves to several of ’em, but they really harnessed two or three, right? And so I got thinking, what happens to somebody who knows all seven, what happens to a life that understands all seven?
What happens to a child whose parents know all seven of these things and what ha what happens to that kid? And so I began to. To really apply those seven in my life. And that’s ultimately how I got out from Under the Pier and those seven things, which now we know they’re principles. Sure there were seven principles and those seven things became the basis of the story for the Traveler’s gift, which as is a story about a family going through a tough time and the dad gets to travel through time meeting with seven historical figures.
Who were also going through a tough moment at that time. He gets to be with Truman and [00:11:00] the, while Truman’s determining how to end the war, what to do with this bomb that only he knows about. He gets to be with Anne Frank and the annex and talk with her. Gets to be with King Solomon.
L. Scott Ferguson (Coach Fergie): Yeah.
Andy Andrews: Right after he says, bring me the sword and I’ll tell you whose baby this is, and to each of these seven people, give this man. A separate principle that if he puts it in his life, things will change. So that’s the story. And that’s really kinda the origin story of how I found those seven principles
L. Scott Ferguson (Coach Fergie): and the character development behind you.
And when you mentioned Joshua Chamberlain. I was like, I knew that name for, I’m probably one of the few that actually knew who he was. Yeah. I’ll I, a school bet, a school teacher that went through and I’m like, and then there was actually a show, Andy that was on, in the late tens, early teens, 2010, called Homeland and they were at, in the main character, brought his kids there.
And he told him about Joshua Chamberlain. I was like, there’s, where did this guy get this from? It was home. It was a huge show on Showtime. I liked it.
Andy Andrews: Yeah.
L. Scott Ferguson (Coach Fergie): Yeah. I remember [00:12:00] Little Terry. I
Andy Andrews: never watched it, but I
L. Scott Ferguson (Coach Fergie): remember the show. Yeah. And he talks about Joshua Chamberlain. So it’s two things ever in my life that I’ve seen w with regards to that.
But that, that digging into those characters I’m mean, I understand. Give him, hell Harry, that’s the responsibility, the ability to respond to the situation that he was in. Of
Andy Andrews: course, you know what he said about that. That’s what they called him.
L. Scott Ferguson (Coach Fergie): Right?
Andy Andrews: Give him hell, Harry. Yes, sir. And of course he said I never give anybody hell. I just tell him the truth and they think it’s
L. Scott Ferguson (Coach Fergie): hell. They think hell. That’s right. Exactly. Exactly. So how about when you, you picked. I understand the Anne Frank, but where did that kind of come from? Like where did, she’s happy.
I understand that, but to go from the happiness, ’cause happiness is probably one of the things that, for me anyways, writing, I could probably find a lot of examples. But how did you land on Anne Frank? I have, I’ve always wanted to ask you that.
Andy Andrews: I, because I wanted, I wanted to. And, looking back on the book’s in its 21st anniversary and wow, when I [00:13:00] look back at the book, maybe happiness wasn’t the best phrase right to choose.
I think maybe I would choose to be grateful, would probably have been a better thing, I give myself a break knowing that Anne Frank in describing her happiness is. Really telling the story of gratefulness. Yeah. And I wanted to use her because I think that when people, there’s a lot of people that you could choose, that a modern person could look at and go, oh wow, yeah, I guess I can be happy, but look at me.
But I couldn’t find anybody that showed happiness and joy. In as tough a circumstance as Anne Frank. And so that one, that was one of really two
L. Scott Ferguson (Coach Fergie): right
Andy Andrews: slam dunks. The rest of ’em, I had to really struggle over a little bit.
L. Scott Ferguson (Coach Fergie): No it was great [00:14:00] how you picked him off from Abe.
Lincoln and the Gabriel, the Angel, it was just, you pulled everything full circle. ’cause the way that I thought the book was gonna end, I was like, wait a minute. Then you just kept going. It’s like one of those movies you think is gonna end and it just keeps going. That’s where it was genius and I see why it’s sold and why it’s picked up and why I refer it out to so many people, well,
Andy Andrews: thank
L. Scott Ferguson (Coach Fergie): you. You’ve. Advise, press presidents, special operators, what personal standard do you walk in that lets you operate at that level without flinching? Because I, I’m gonna tell you like. If this was back in the day, we would see you walk in and we’d be like, he’s not us. You know what I’m saying?
Like, how do you do it? Because I’m brought in, okay, I’ve dealt with imposter syndrome. I’m up in front of a thousand people and I’m like, oh my gosh. They could be CEOs and C-suites and most of ’em can spec me with their wallet, right? What are they gonna get from me? But I was pulled aside and said, listen, attach you’re attaching your confidence.
To your abilities instead of attaching the [00:15:00] he. I was asked by someone I re respect immensely. Speaker said, Fergie, what’s your intention today? My intention is to have one person out of there. Walk out with something that’s gonna help ’em level up their life. He goes, that’s it. Lean into that. So I attach my intentions to my confidence, and now I shine.
At least I feel I do, I get good, and good feedback. But then I get out there, it’s a lot easier for me to get through it. So how were you able to walk in? This is a president of the United States. Come on man. And these are also guys that are the elite of the elite. What, how did you, how do you do it without flinching?
Andy Andrews: One, one thing I do is what you just did there with me. You would think that you would go into a situation just spouting your accolades and what you’ve done to try to convince them that you know that you’re the person to be there at the time. But what you did with me just then, you said, and now I shine.
Or at least I think I do. And that and that, that makes you a lot more human to me and to your listeners and [00:16:00] viewers. And one of the things, one of the things that I do, that I think that I really think connects with people like that is I treat ’em like nobody else will.
And
L. Scott Ferguson (Coach Fergie): well unpack that. What do you mean by that?
Andy Andrews: The bigger the person, the more I tease ’em and
L. Scott Ferguson (Coach Fergie): Oh, I get
Andy Andrews: it.
L. Scott Ferguson (Coach Fergie): Yeah.
Andy Andrews: And I kinda mess with ’em a little bit. And, I’m big on smiling while you’re talking and so when it’s one of the greatest piece of pieces of advice I could give your audience is learn to smile while you talk, not smile a lot.
Not smile every time you see somebody. But smile while you talk. And that’s not looking like a, a bozo, the clown. That’s just getting your eyebrows up, getting your countenance up, getting the edges of your mouth up instead of down. Getting your eyes. In, into a, to a more optimistic frame [00:17:00] rather than a, because a lot of times people tell jokes and you look at ’em and they look angry, and then they get the punchline, then they laugh and they look angry again.
And so it’s something that with I’ll give you a, an example.
L. Scott Ferguson (Coach Fergie): Yeah.
Andy Andrews: I was sitting next to Nick Saban at a, at an event one time and Nick and I worked with him off and on, just, and Nick is very intense, as you already know.
L. Scott Ferguson (Coach Fergie): Yes, sir.
Andy Andrews: And we were sitting next to each other at this event and somebody on stage was saying.
And Nick Saban’s here today and he has created this dynasty and these guys never lose and every, and he’s just going on and on and I hear Nick beside me go, oh God. And so I look at him and I kinda lean over and I say, you don’t you don’t like it when they do that. And he looks at me and he says, it just makes what I do.
Harder.
L. Scott Ferguson (Coach Fergie): Harder. Yes, sure.
Andy Andrews: And I [00:18:00] said there is something that you can do and you wouldn’t have to experience this kind of thing. He said, what? And I said,
L. Scott Ferguson (Coach Fergie): lose,
Andy Andrews: just lose three or four games a year. I said, they, they won’t bother you. And he goes.
L. Scott Ferguson (Coach Fergie): Yeah, I see it. It, Nick just moved into the neighborhood next door,
Andy Andrews: yeah.
L. Scott Ferguson (Coach Fergie): Okay.
Andy Andrews: Or just depending, no, he didn’t laugh. He just kinda rolled his eyes and smile. Right. And but it is I went into a real serious situation one time where a person, we all know, they wouldn’t even tell me what was going on before I got there.
Yeah. And so when I get there, and I’ve signed all this non-disclosure stuff about saying who it was and everything and I get there, we talked a little bit and he says I guess I just need to tell you. And I said, okay. And he said, we’re having marital problems.
Okay.
Andy Andrews: And I said, I knew that. [00:19:00] I knew that. And he said how could you have possibly known we’re having marital problems? And I said you’re married and when we are married, those are the kind of problems we have.
L. Scott Ferguson (Coach Fergie): Love that.
Andy Andrews: And he just kinda relaxed at that point and laughed. And so sometimes stating the obvious somebo, sometimes treating people like,
L. Scott Ferguson (Coach Fergie): yeah.
Andy Andrews: Nobody ever treats ’em anymore.
L. Scott Ferguson (Coach Fergie): I,
Andy Andrews: I, I’m blessed, ’cause every, everybody knows what it’s like to be treated. Normally, but then some of us, you and I, among them,
L. Scott Ferguson (Coach Fergie): you
Andy Andrews: know, we get a bit of vis, a bit of visibility and people start treating us differently, right? And. That can be the beginning of the end for some people because you know what it’s like, somebody will come up and go, Hey, is your juice okay?
Is your juice the right temperature? Is there anything else we can do for you? And some people turn into this kinda, as a matter of fact, my juice is not okay.
L. Scott Ferguson (Coach Fergie): Right?
Andy Andrews: It’s whoa, [00:20:00] where did you come from?
L. Scott Ferguson (Coach Fergie): Right.
Andy Andrews: So I, I think a lot of times, treating people the way,
L. Scott Ferguson (Coach Fergie): what’s kept you humble?
Andy Andrews: Everything. Yeah. My wife, my boys my friends.
L. Scott Ferguson (Coach Fergie): Yeah.
Andy Andrews: I, and even talking about the Traveler’s gift I think it foremost in my mind more than, almost, more than what Good Morning America said about that book being one of the five books you should read in your lifetime. One of the foremost probably the foremost thing in my mind about that book is that I couldn’t get it published.
L. Scott Ferguson (Coach Fergie): Wow.
Andy Andrews: When I wrote the manuscript, I thought it was pretty good. And, everybody that writes is told, okay, expect rejection, get good at it, and all like that. But the Traveler’s gift was turned down by 51 different publishers. And so when you think about that. You think about a book that now a national news [00:21:00] organization is saying, it’s one of the best, one of the five best books you read in your lifetime.
But in reality, 51 publishers said what was put in, put on this paper was not worth being printed.
L. Scott Ferguson (Coach Fergie): Right.
Andy Andrews: And so it, it’s a humbling. Thought that rejection, I could, because, and it’s why I believe that a lot of the best music and the best writing is probably in somebody’s drawer somewhere.
L. Scott Ferguson (Coach Fergie): Oh
Andy Andrews: my gosh. Yes. ’cause they did it and somebody said, eh, and they go, yeah okay. And they put it away and. For whatever reason will I know the reason may the seventh decision was, I will persist without exception. And if I hadn’t written that stupid part, the book probably would’ve never been published.
No,
L. Scott Ferguson (Coach Fergie): thank you. Yeah. It brought everything circled back that’s it nailed it. And Scott, I gotta tell you the several seven decisions we talk about is the buck stops here. Adversity is preparation for greatness. Second is I will seek wisdom. I [00:22:00] will choose my friends with care. Third is I’m a person of action.
I can make decisions and I’ll make it now. Fourth is I have decided heart. My destiny is assured. Today I will choose. Or fifth is I will choose to be happy. Choose to be happy. I’m the possessor of a grateful heart. Six, I will greet, eat this day with a forgiving spirit. Forgive people, and also most of all forgive yourself.
Remember, forgiveness is nothing more than giving up the hope of a better past. Okay. Forgive yourself and forgive others. And seventh. Is, I will persist With that exception, I will find a way where there is no way, and with you circling that fully back, it made sense for ponder situation, right? Yeah. To wake up into the next day and persist.
Because I always say, I stole it from Napoleon Hill, back your faith with a perseverance, it doesn’t recognize failure. Yeah. It’s if we’re gonna fail, we fail forward. I’m a Detroit, I’m from Detroit. Detroit Lions best running back to me is Barry Sanders ever, and he lost the most yards.
I, I
Andy Andrews: agree with you on
L. Scott Ferguson (Coach Fergie): that. Thank you.
Andy Andrews: I agree
L. Scott Ferguson (Coach Fergie): with
Andy Andrews: you
L. Scott Ferguson (Coach Fergie): on that. [00:23:00] Thank
Andy Andrews: you. I just sent a, I sent an Instagram to my oldest son yesterday of Barry Sanders. Just running clips and I sent it with the very best.
L. Scott Ferguson (Coach Fergie): Yes.
Andy Andrews: He was the best.
L. Scott Ferguson (Coach Fergie): Yeah he was. And when I was there, when I got outta the military as a personal trainer, I actually personal trained Lauren Sanders his first wife, and so it was pretty cool.
He would come in and I’d get to rap with him. This is back in 1990. Seven right before he decided to hang him up. Wow. Way too early. But it was pretty cool to see him every day and stuff. And the thing is, he does, still does so much for Detroit, and which is pretty cool.
But thank you for agreeing with that. But he would fail. He’d fail forward. He always fell forward. Yeah. And then he’d break that big run. So Andy, if you could give. People, one daily question to sharpen their critical thinking and level up their life, what do you feel that would be?
What is that one question that you think you, that people need to hit themselves with? And this is selfish because I’ve always wanted to ask you this, man, because I’m a big question [00:24:00] first. I believe our minds are programmed to problem solve. You can say affirmations all you want. But questions to me, I like, I’ll take an affirmation and put it in the form of a question.
So my subconscious reticular vein system, blah, blah, blah. All that stuff is going, but what question, man? Should
Andy Andrews: I? I agree. ’cause I think the quality of our answers is determined by the quality of our questions.
L. Scott Ferguson (Coach Fergie): Yes, sir.
Andy Andrews: Don’t get answers. Ask good questions.
L. Scott Ferguson (Coach Fergie): Right.
Andy Andrews: And because mainly we’re talking about asking questions of ourself, not asking questions of others.
And I, I think my number one question that I would recommend people asking myself or asking themselves is it’s an overall. That you can apply to specifics, but the overall way of putting it is, do I believe everything? I think,
L. Scott Ferguson (Coach Fergie): wow,
Andy Andrews: am I believing everything? I think. And here’s why. I pose it that way and let me explain it.
The old man Jones, the Noticer
L. Scott Ferguson (Coach Fergie): [00:25:00] Yes, sir.
Andy Andrews: Said to me one time, he said, you gotta remember, you can’t believe everything you think that, it seemed that was, it went over my head, but it was odd. And so I kinda kept remembering it and unpacking it and. Here’s the best way I can explain it. Have you ever known something?
You knew it, right? And you could argue it and you could win the argument every time. Absolutely. Yeah. But then six months later or a year later, you found out, oh, that was not exactly right. Or Yes sir, my information is a little incomplete. Absolutely. Okay. So if you’ve ever done that before, does the possibility exist that something you know now?
Your information might be incomplete and you would say Andy, of course, something I know now my information might be incomplete or totally wrong of co Of course. Okay. I agree. But the point is we don’t know what that [00:26:00] is.
L. Scott Ferguson (Coach Fergie): Right?
Andy Andrews: We don’t know what that subject, we don’t know how many subjects that may cover in your life.
L. Scott Ferguson (Coach Fergie): Sure.
Andy Andrews: And so to not believe everything you think, there’s a misconception about. Especially about personal growth. And I think that when people feel like when they feel like they’ve reached an answer, I, let’s put it this way. The misconception is when people are not performing to their potential, they feel like there’s something they’re missing.
And and that applies to corporations. It applies to teams. Yes, sir. Okay, we’re not performing our potential. There’s something we’re missing here. And so I would argue that it’s not something that you’re missing because when there’s something you don’t know. You keep looking.
L. Scott Ferguson (Coach Fergie): Yes.
Andy Andrews: You keep searching. Yes. You keep Googling, you keep questioning. You keep listening. Thank you. You keep having [00:27:00] conversations and so I don’t think the biggest danger to reaching our potential is something we don’t know. I think the biggest danger to reaching our potential is what we know for sure. Yes.
Because when we know something, for sure. We tend to lock that in place and just go off and look for other things that we’re not sure of. Sure. And yet, how many things do we have to be proven that, somebody would be absolutely sure about face masks, vaccines? Sure. That turn out to be not really so accurate.
L. Scott Ferguson (Coach Fergie): Right.
Andy Andrews: And so when we, you know what if we were still today? Everybody face masking. What if we were still today vaccinating everybody? Because that’s what we had decided. And so I, there, there’s so many explanations of that there’s so many examples of that. It’s it’s odd to me.
That people can get locked in so easily. But I will tell you this, the more [00:28:00] successful a person or is, or more successful a company or a team is, the more likely they are to believe what they think,
L. Scott Ferguson (Coach Fergie): right? And I,
Andy Andrews: because they, they’re looking at their industry and they’re in first place,
L. Scott Ferguson (Coach Fergie): right?
Andy Andrews: So how, I, how much idea they stall
L. Scott Ferguson (Coach Fergie): their growth if they keep that thinking up because the people will pass by and it’s with my clients.
I don’t care if you’re the CEO hedge manager, that I’m blessed to coach. I have protocol that must be to me by 9:00 AM their time. And it’s three things you’re grateful for your intention for the day, an act of service you provided yesterday and something you’ve learned. And with the that fourth one with the, something you learned. There’s a few more that I do add on if I feel they need it, but that’s something they’ve learned as requirement that I try to keep ’em out. Exactly what you just said. It stalls their growth that they think they know everything.
Andy Andrews: Right.
L. Scott Ferguson (Coach Fergie): And Andy, you and I, which I hope to meet you one day, I’m gonna make it a point [00:29:00] to meet you one day. And we’ll talk about maybe some of these questions, 15, 20 minutes over a cup of coffee or something like that. Yeah,
Andy Andrews: absolutely.
L. Scott Ferguson (Coach Fergie): But today.
You got five seconds with no explanations and I promise you they can all be answered that way. You ready to level up?
Andy Andrews: Yeah.
L. Scott Ferguson (Coach Fergie): Alright. Andy, what is the best leveling up advice you’ve ever received?
Andy Andrews: Don’t believe everything you think.
L. Scott Ferguson (Coach Fergie): Love that. Share one of your personal habits that contributes to your success.
I.
Andy Andrews: Reading the Bible and praying first thing in the morning.
L. Scott Ferguson (Coach Fergie): Beautiful. Beautiful. Other than the Traveler’s gift or a plethora of your other books, what book sh helped shape you that someone else wrote? If you saw me walking down the street, like when I see someone glum, I handle the Traveler’s gift.
I’m telling you. Yeah. But is there a book that just switched you around?
Andy Andrews: Yeah, the old man and the boy.
L. Scott Ferguson (Coach Fergie): Okay.
Andy Andrews: The old man and the boy. Most people hadn’t heard of that. It was written before I was born. It’s by Robert Rourke.
L. Scott Ferguson (Coach Fergie): Okay.
Andy Andrews: And if you’re an outdoor person, like you and I are, Scott, you’ll especially like that book.
Okay. [00:30:00] I think it, it turned my relationships, into a deeper, more understanding way with my boys and it’s my favorite book of all time.
L. Scott Ferguson (Coach Fergie): Donnie, write that down please. Thank you, brother. When you text, you use any emojis?
Andy Andrews: No.
L. Scott Ferguson (Coach Fergie): Okay. Nicknames growing up.
Andy Andrews: An
L. Scott Ferguson (Coach Fergie): Ange. Awesome. You have any hidden talents or superpowers that nobody knows about until now?
Andy Andrews: Yes.
L. Scott Ferguson (Coach Fergie): What is it?
Andy Andrews: You said I didn’t have to explain.
L. Scott Ferguson (Coach Fergie): Got it. No problem. Chess checkers a monopoly.
Andy Andrews: Chess.
L. Scott Ferguson (Coach Fergie): Okay.
Andy Andrews: No checkers. Net checkers.
L. Scott Ferguson (Coach Fergie): Checkers. Checkers. So much easier. Did I get
Andy Andrews: that under the line?
L. Scott Ferguson (Coach Fergie): You got it, brother. Okay. You got it. All
Andy Andrews: right.
L. Scott Ferguson (Coach Fergie): Headline for your life.
Andy Andrews: Andy Andrews,
he was trying till the very end.
L. Scott Ferguson (Coach Fergie): Love it. I love it. Go to ice cream flavor,
Andy Andrews: peppermint.
L. Scott Ferguson (Coach Fergie): Love it. Last question you can elaborate a little bit of on this one, but how do you want your dash remembered? That [00:31:00] little line in between your incarnation date and your expiration date, your life date, and death date.
How do you want that dash remembered? Hopefully it’s way down the line because this world needs you. But how do you want your dash remembered?
Andy Andrews: I want it to be remembered as a good dad, good husband, good friend. You know it. A caring, helping person,
L. Scott Ferguson (Coach Fergie): right?
Andy Andrews: That, that was able to explain some things.
L. Scott Ferguson (Coach Fergie): It’s
Andy Andrews: just like a long answer, but
L. Scott Ferguson (Coach Fergie): no. This one it’s allowed, but
Andy Andrews: my, my prayer every day is God help me understand some things. You want your people to understand that if they did understand. They live the life you want ’em to live.
L. Scott Ferguson (Coach Fergie): Wow. Okay.
Andy Andrews: And give me simple ways to explain complicated things that are confusing people.
That’s my prayer. That’s part of my prayer every day.
L. Scott Ferguson (Coach Fergie): That is amazing. Be able to, yes. ’cause sometimes I’ll. I call it effectionately, dumbing something down. So like people can understand it. ’cause I get really into it. Like [00:32:00] you, I’m a active reader, like just really, and I just envelop stuff. But sometimes when I put it out and I’m speaking at I’ll go to a local Toastmasters just to try new Bit.
And they’ll be like, dude, I didn’t understand any of that. I had to bring it down for them to understand what I was getting at.
Andy Andrews: Right,
L. Scott Ferguson (Coach Fergie): so I love that. So Andy, tell us about Wisdom Harbor. I know it’s passionate to you. Actually wisdom Go
Andy Andrews: Wisdom harbor.com is a web portal, a streaming service, an extremely cheap.
Streaming service I might add.
L. Scott Ferguson (Coach Fergie): Sure.
Andy Andrews: Just with all, everything going on today, or inexpensive, however you put it. But our stated goal is to create America’s Next Greatest generation by creating conversations with adults and young people. Love that. So this is going into schools and some businesses, a lot of organizations, a lot of families use Wisdom Harbor.
Har Harbors always have docks. Sure. And [00:33:00] so they’re like, I think 21 docks in Wisdom Harbor. And these docks are incredibly varied. It’s the betcha didn’t know doc. The, in other words, doc, the just for fun. The how do I doc the audio books? Doc musicians. Doc writer’s doc and so small lessons are delivered in interesting and funny ways by our board of contributors.
And our contributors include Grammy winners coaches, comedians, teachers singers. And so these people deliver probably 75% of what’s on Wisdom Harbor is video. Okay? So it’s six to eight minute video pieces, and then the rest of it’s divided up between audio and written word. And they’re also, they’re divided into docs, but on the thing, they’re also divided into categories like [00:34:00] history, English culinary arts. We have a couple of chefs that are contributors on. And there is something for everybody, but the main thrust of it is to tell stories that people never knew.
The, to me the most interesting things in history are not in the books. They’re not in the or, they’re not in the history books at school and it’s probably why I was not interested in history when I was in school. It just bore the heck outta me memorizing dates.
L. Scott Ferguson (Coach Fergie): Sure.
Andy Andrews: Right. And so when, if I’d have had a history teacher that had come in and said, today.
I’m gonna tell you a story.
L. Scott Ferguson (Coach Fergie): Yes, that’s
Andy Andrews: true.
L. Scott Ferguson (Coach Fergie): His story, right?
Andy Andrews: Yeah. So this is wisdom Harbor is full of stories that you’ve never heard that create conversations at the dinner table. Yes. That create conversations in classrooms that create conversations between. Adults at the ballpark and kids that are not their [00:35:00] kids.
And so if you look at how the greatest generation occurred, and by the way, I’m not sure that who we call the greatest generation should be called the greatest generation. I understand that. I think that title probably should go to their parents. Yeah. And their teachers and the adults in the community at that time, because how did they raise an entire generation of kids by a standard that we look back 80 years later and say, that’s still the best we ever were.
L. Scott Ferguson (Coach Fergie): Yeah. And so what we’re doing is taking,
darn
L. Scott Ferguson (Coach Fergie): Tom broke off.
Andy Andrews: Yeah. Yeah. He’s the one who named him. And so I, but I guess that with Wisdom Harbor, it brings together this curiosity.
L. Scott Ferguson (Coach Fergie): Love
Andy Andrews: it. This and so I would love for you, I’ll make sure you have a subscription to this. As soon as we’re off, off the air, I, we should, but yeah.
But I, I really would urge people to dig into that. Is it $27 a year? Matt? $27 [00:36:00] a year. Beautiful. And it’s for 365 days a year. 24 hours a day. Wow. And on Wednesdays and Saturdays the content barge arrives. And so the new content arrives Wisdom Harbor. And so you get an email with it, you get a text with it, it has a, has an app for your phone.
Wow. If you wanna use it on the app or use it at the computer, but, they’re very cool, very interesting and very
L. Scott Ferguson (Coach Fergie): nice.
Andy Andrews: So we’ve also, there are a lot of people that involve themself in providing that for their schools,
L. Scott Ferguson (Coach Fergie): right?
Andy Andrews: As we know, schools are, having a tough time. So we price it as low as we possibly can and still stay in business 27 a month.
And it, and so there’s a way to, to sponsor. Your whole school. Love that. And for a year and sponsor an entire junior high school or a middle school or a senior high school and so we have a lot of people doing that, that are involving themselves in that.
L. Scott Ferguson (Coach Fergie): Love [00:37:00] it. And squad it is wisdom harbor.com.
That’s wisdom. And then H-A-R-B-O-U r.com. I’m gonna put it in the show notes below. And Andy, do me one last solid please. ’cause I know your time’s limited. And but leave us with one last knowledge nugget that we can take with us, internalize and take action on.
Andy Andrews: Okay. And here, how about this one?
There is a, there is not just hope. For a greater tomorrow. There is a proof of hope that you can tag into and that, the proof of hope actually stands on the understanding that. Everybody has a worst time in their life.
L. Scott Ferguson (Coach Fergie): Sure,
Andy Andrews: everybody has one. If you look at a timeline, a lifeline from birth to death, we could figure out, okay that right there, that was the worst time in their life.
Everybody has one. And the other curious fact about that is it’s rarely the last thing [00:38:00] in their life. Very rarely it’s the last thing in their life, right? And so this proof of hope. Actually hangs on the fact that you can have a worst time of your life in the middle of your life. And so here’s what it is, that even in the worst time of your life, there is the proof that things will get better, a proof of hope, and that proof of hope is that you are still breathing.
Yes, that you’re still here, because if you’re still here, that means you haven’t accomplished what you were put here to do,
L. Scott Ferguson (Coach Fergie): right? If
Andy Andrews: you haven’t accomplished what you were put here to do, that means your very purpose for being on this earth has not yet been fulfilled, right? If your purpose hadn’t been fulfilled.
That means that the best part of your life, the most incredible part of your life still coming, the most purposeful part of your life is still ahead of you. Yeah. And so that is proof that there’s more laughter, there’s more success to [00:39:00] earn, there’s more influence to come to bear. There’s more children to teach, some friends to help.
There is more proven by the understanding that you sit here and breathe. You’re still here.
L. Scott Ferguson (Coach Fergie): I love that. I love it. And squad, we’ve taken up a lot of Andy’s time. I have notes upon notes. He said when God passed out, talents, he didn’t really get the good ones, but he didn’t let it stop him.
He taught me that you can try to treat people that are on a pedestal like nobody else will respectfully, but if you can get ’em to smile, curl those lips, that, that really works. And it really get through, smile while you talk. Don’t just walk around. Big grin, but actually smile.
If you’ve watched this video on on YouTube or Vimeo, Andy when he is talking, he’s actually smiling, which I was catching him outta the corner of my eye, which I thought was really cool. He lives a life where persistence. He backs that per his faith and his desire with the persistence and doesn’t recognize failure.
He wants you to ask, do I believe everything? I think, a lot of people listen to themselves too much instead of talking to themselves and really asking [00:40:00] themselves powerful questions. A fear is, a lot of people have, is not performing to their potential. It’s not something that you are missing.
It’s something that can be found and just keep going. He will be remembered as a good dad, husband, friend, and a world changer to millions. Sorry, but he will, I’ll put that out there for him. He’s planting trees. He’s never gonna sit in the shade of right squad, and he does things for the intention, not the attention.
You don’t see him leaning on Lambos and. Doing all this, look at me. He’s actually putting out, wisdom harbor that is so affordable, which I’ll put that again in the show notes. Go join. I’m joining as soon as I get off of here. I can’t believe I haven’t joined yet. And also.
He stories, they stick with us. Tell me a fact and I’ll learn. Tell me a truth. I’ll believe, tell me a good story. And it stays in my heart forever. And that’s the kind of stuff that Andy leans into and gives us those stories, and then the proof of a greater tomorrow. I know I’ve survived a hundred percent of my worst days.
I have, I promise you. Squad and so have you. So with that, hope you can grow. Your best days are still ahead of you. And Andy, thank you so much for [00:41:00] coming on. You level up your health, you level up your wealth. You’re just so gracious with your time. You’ve earned your Varsity Squad letter here at Time to Shine Today.
Thank you so much for coming on, brother. I absolutely love your guts and I mean that
Andy Andrews: awesome man. I am honored to have been with you. Thank you. And your listeners are fortunate to have you.L. Scott Ferguson (Coach Fergie): Thank you, brother. Chat soon
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